Could UFOs be of alien origin? | Andrew Bustamante and Lex Fridman
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I like how even after Andrew thinks the conversation is over, Lex kicks that conversation back open with 10 different plausible arguments.
Jane Goodall.
Remember. A CIA IS ALWAYS A CIA AGENT .🤣🤣🤣🤣
Right, like being a “former mobster”
Andrew speaks using absolute language about things no one can know for sure. I like to hear everyone's take on subjects like these, but for a spy to comment on extraterrestrial life with such certainty - doesn't work for me.
Not about aliens, it's just math in regard of the size of the known universe
@@Consumer0001 - could be. I’m not sure what type of person he is. I’m not sure what type of person I am.
@@jaysteve4442 - I prefer the use of agnostic language regarding unknowable subjects.
“It’s just math” lol, no. It is unknown, and unknowable. For now.
I hope your comment remains at the top👍
This guest is speaking in absolute certainty, while the nature of all of these concepts are shrouded in mystery and out of reach from certainty
Fence sitter salesman for the agency.
To be brutally honest, with revisionism being what it is these days, people who immediately dismiss "conspiracies" start to lose me a little. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of insane theories but recent events have proven that numerous accurate hypotheses have been branded and therefore dismissed as "conspiracy theories". It's about time that term were retired, "theory" itself is sufficient, we all know the origin and intent of CS.
I agree with you and I wish this could be the case but you have to understand that billions of people on this earth live, experience and understanding things differently. While you might be quick to draw parallels from other previous literary adventures, someone else on the other side of the planet has not had that exposure based off of other complex experiences controllable or otherwise. Also, what "recent events" would those be to you because i can site several all scattered throughout history that would invalidate using them as a reason for your point.
History is nuts, and plenty of things have happened which sound like conspiracy to those who haven't heard of them, but are true. Things like the Inquisition, scandals of the Pope, Banda Islands, Rasputin, Chernobyl, Nazi Germany, etc would all seem insane to someone who knew nothing about them. Many people refused to believe the concentration camps existed, even after seeing them with their own eyes, for how horrible it was.
History is also something people prove using evidence. And more evidence makes things more conclusive. Noone is going to know 100%, because no magical genie exists that will reveal truth/fiction to people lol. It's closer to a courtroom where someone shows evidence and the judge makes a decision, but usually happens over years/decades.
A wise person who doesn't know something, will admit they do not know, rather than tell the other person they are wrong while being unable to produce any evidence as to why.
I have that same problem too.Far too often discussion gets closed down by pompous individuals just by labelling them "conspiracy theories".
There's one example I'm reluctant to say for exactly that reason as it would no doubt receive that exact response with no actual refute or even often discussion of the evidence presented.
@@mpagirobin3805 Oh, there have been countless examples over time. This isn't a new phenomenon, I should've been clearer. I mean think about the shape of the Earth for one thing. The reason I reference "recent events" was more strictly related to the "awakening" of a broader "audience". That doesn't invalidate the point though, if you think it does, then you've misunderstood. The problem is, as you've highlighted, is objectivity is an increasingly rare quality in analysis.
To quote Dr Arroway from Contact:
”If only one out of a million of those had planets, and just of out of a million of those had life, and just one out of a million of those had intelligent life; there would be literally millions of civilizations out there."
It's not inconceivable to think that an alien species could slightly resemble humans given the vast number of potential civilisations out there.
And if its 1 in a quintillion, then it's just us.
Who can say how many great filters there are, and the odds of passing through each of them?
Belief is religious.
I agree with you, Leon Agnew.
Indeed especially if you buy into the theory that our DNA was tinkered with to explain our jump in evolutionary terms.
@@GangsterGumbo the great filter itself is a belief. In truth, we can't know many things for sure, but we can still speculate based on what we do know cause that's how we got where we are.
I always wondered would life on other planets look exactly like life on earth but maybe with slight differences? If our planet is the only viable option/baseline for life to exist in the universe then wouldn’t the creatures of our planet be the baseline too? Basically if our planets environment is what’s needed to grow life wouldn’t it grow exactly like us
The video and testimony of all these Air Force pilots as of late can’t be denied 🤷🏽♂️ they are here doing whatever it is they are doing 🛸
“Denied”? A few isolated instances doesn’t mean aliens are visiting.
Lex speaks for us....appreciate it sir
why does he immediately equate the idea of communicating with a lesser intelligence, with the origin of conspiracy?
He went straight for condescension against opposing opinions … Very disappointing.
Lex is a freaking genius....spot on sir
He works for the cia. Do you actually think he will say anything that would give him away?
Listening to an agent to inform you, is like asking the devil if he wants your autograph. He’s gonna take that chance and abuse it. I skip JRE when he has these “people” on. It may seem interesting but there is poison in the sugar to be sure.
Lex already is deep in the topic ❤️
Perfect interview up to the 50 Second point, and I'll leave it there!
I don't think that it's silly to assume aliens may be similar.. we simply dont know and it may be that the Humanoid body type is simply nature's best way of producing intelligence.
Well, the other thing that most of these analysts miss is lateral thinking about this topic. So, for example, who's to say that these aliens look like us? Perhaps we look like *them*. With that simple reversal of the equation we're into a whole different discussion, and the bipedal humanoid resemblance becomes explainable.
It is possible but it's close to zero percent they would evolve to look like us. They probably have some kind of brain and appendages, but that's about all we would have in common.
@@Cryptech1010 Again, what makes you think that they evolved to look like us? Perhaps we look like them.
@@RobertFalconer1967 I don't think they would look like us at all. There is way too many variables. What if their planet is almost all water, or have really high gravity, or different chemical composition? There is so many factors that drive evolution
@@Cryptech1010 I think you missed my point. Don't think linearly...think laterally. What I am saying is that perhaps they came first and that we were somehow spawned from *them*. That solves the whole "It's way too coincidental that they just happen to look like us" debate.
This guy is the perfect kind of person to be a spy. He's not really exceptional but he is convinced he is. It wouldn't be a real loss if he were captured but you can completely trust him to go down with the secrets because he thinks he's special.
In his mind, one instance of something implies high probability (clearly ignoring the facts about how probability works). If the only instance of intelligent species we know is bipedal and human like, using his logic, there is high probability that other intelligent life forms are too. You can't just selectively use reasoning to justify what you want to believe.
Of course the only logical way to answer this question is that we don't know for sure and hypothesize using something like the Drake equation. You can't just pick and choose what you want to believe with complete conviction.
Yeah, he's not as smart as he thinks he is. No wonder he worked for the government.
I’m so happy to come to the comments and find that everyone thinks this guy is arrogant. What an annoying person.
"If the only instance of intelligent species we know is bipedal and human like, using his logic, there is high probability that other intelligent life forms are too. You can't just selectively use reasoning to justify what you want to believe. "
You can assume they're like us due to the fact that billions of years of evolution (natures trial and error) formed us. If you know about evolution then you should know that certain traits are far more effective than others and those certain traits have evolved seperately numerous times on Earth. We can safely assume most intelligent species would roughly resemble us. There's always exceptions but you're not building rockets with fins or with paws.
Sounds like you're talking about yourselves 🤣
Problem is, he’s assuming that there’s a fixed narrative about what must be aliens … That’s very unimaginative thinking given that so many opposing possibilities likely exist in the universe that we’ve yet to comprehend in eluding the idea that yes, for some reason that the universe has yet to reveal to us, there are other bipedal species out there.
The argument against ETs being nonhuman like form doesn’t take into account the efficiency of our form. They may have different numbers of appendages, but look at what our form has allowed us to develop. It’s completely possible they could resemble us.
If you mean do they have a head and legs then it's very possible. But to be like us they would have to have exact same conditions. What if gravity is less or different amounts of sun. They could be 20 feet tall and albino with no eyes. They could see in infrared light.. or they communicate with telepathy or use technology so much that their legs were slowly evolved out, they are just a brain with robotic body. So they could have similar features but they still wouldn't look anything like us
We are just evolved to be efficient on this planet only. Also the earth is still young, we are still evolving or there could be life that will be more efficient than us or would have been more efficient if they didn't go extinct too soon from something they couldn't control.
If they do look like us either their planet is very similar to us, they are related to us(panspermia), or they are humans from the future.
For me it's a question of whether our scientific methods are capable of proving the existence of phenomena which have the feature that we can neither control nor predict the conditions under which we observe them, and if not, and there are such phenomena, then what reliable method do we have for studying them?
Well, according to Andrew, other higher intelligences just fill gaps of knowledge magically. No communication, curiosity, or discovery. The magic method.
@@MundaneDave what if they could, by only observing, reconstruct a simulation of our planet where they have control and feedback from every simulated particle and study and learn about us that way
altho if you ask me that would be too much effort for something too stupid like us
Boy, that's a lot of Andrew with him being on Rogan recently as well!
This guy has all sorts of logical flaws in his thinking. It is not at all improbable that other life forms would look like us. For example, a bipedal, two arms, two eyes form factor is just a good evolutionary solution for an organism living in 3 dimensional space with gravity present. Binocular vision is the minimum requirement for depth perception. Another eye(s) could also work, but two are the minimum. Intelligent species usually have dexterity to manipulate things, whether using a beak, hands or feet. Which means it is plausible that the evolution adaptation from crawling to walking may have occurred to support this increasing dexterity. Finally, two legs are the minimum requirement for walking. Nature is efficient. So the minimum solution is usually what prevails.
"Evolutionary solution". Amazing how you think a blind process that lacks intentions can come up with "solutions".
This is the reasoning that I have heard of in reference to Simon Conway Morris' thesis of convergent evolution.
@@Joe-sg9ll how could you know what the aliens will do? Maybe it's totally logical for them to swim in the ocean, or to show some activity on human radars. We can't assume they'd parade on the streets of New York because they traveled many miles
Travis Walton made the observation that form follows function - he's right. There could be intelligent beings that are aquatic or even more different from us than we can imagine. But a bipedal being with binocular vision might be the predominant form. Call me crazy, but, I listen to abductees. I've had two UFO experiences and those people are not, by and large, crazy people. Human testimony is not utterly worthless...as is often proposed by the "scientific community". One day we'll understand that making fun of the aforementioned group of people was crazy - almost zero people cook up UFO or abduction stories. Having had my experiences this guy feels like a disinformation guy, or, a dope. He's wrong.
Totally agree … My draws dropped when I realized the degree of flaws in his thinking and lack of imagination.
Dude -- best Lex rant ever.
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Love lex line said like a true human
Listening to this guy gives me a clear understanding of American hubris.
more in line with the type of dummy working for the FEDs
I fully agree with this!
I m sure we re not alone out there in the universe
Lex should watch Ants Canada.
Ant's communicate via Pheromones.
Take a spoon. Dip it in the ocean...do you see any sharks in the spoon of water?
That's how big the known universe is
What about the falling angels theory
Lex you ever read Cixin Liu?
I don't think it will be difficult to communicate with advanced aliens or for them to communicate with us. I mean communication is just a set of recognizable patterns that someone can interpret. So you just need the ability to communicate or recognize patterns. Unless those aliens are communicating on the quantum level or some shit like that, which is possible. I think if we are somehow made aware of each other's precense then communicating with each other in some form should not be difficult.
Yep. I had the exact same thought. Sentience is a very particular attribute that certainly doesn't apply to bees but it's we wanted to communicate with bees we can, it's just they will be extremely limited in what they will understand. It not hard to understand someone less intelligent, it's just potentially laborious if the superior party is interested.
For me, its looking more and more like we are seeing our creators. In other words, we are probably like "the Sims" and we are being observed, just like we observe other species.
if ants started blowing each other up with nuclear weapons and sending tesla's to into space , any intelligent identity could identify future problems . A peaceful show of force and superiority would be logical if extermination is not the goal .
Hate to say this but ants fight. It' is observable. Stop them from fighting. So meh.
@@Joe-sg9ll Astronomers think they have found evidence for an extremely powerful nuclear explosion in space - one so rare that we are unlikely to ever see its like again. The explosion seems to have taken place inside a strange neutron star located 140,000 light-years from Earth called MAXI J0556-332.
@@wa7019 take there queen lol there are several basic ways also , but i cant be bothered in listing them
Lex have some one on to talk about why they don’t let us explore Antarctica 🇦🇶
the fact that people think this is the most interesting mystery you can contemplate speaks magnitudes about the spiritual poverty of our age
In the first minute he contradicts himself and makes me loose respect for his opinion. If the universe is so vast that there has to be intelligent life, then the universe is vast enough to contain bipedal aliens who resemble us. You can’t say it’s so big there has to be life and then in the same breath that it’s not possible for aliens to look like us.
I expect humanoid types. Not necessarily ape or even mammal. The way lizards took off here makes me think there must be lizard people. Not a David Ike fan tho.
@@Joe-sg9ll That depends I think locality doesn’t really matters you know they could have a technology to essentially jump 2000 light years in the blink of an eye or just take a few months traveling 60,000 light years size doesn’t really matter. The way I always approached it is just because we can’t do something doesn’t mean they can’t do something
@@Joe-sg9ll Yeah I think it could be a mixture right you could have beings living in this universe and you could also being something different dimensions that could crossover. Technologically advanced cultures could do anything they want they can jump from this from a dimension to this dimension and live in this outter space if they wanted
@@Joe-sg9ll Well you could have shared genetics or shared organisms over billions of years they could cause a correlation in a locality zone. Also bipedalism could be an evolution advantage There’s that too. Thus could arrive naturally eventually
@@Joe-sg9ll I think that’s a misconception that just because they come from a different dimension doesn’t mean they’re not using some kind of physical craft. But That’s my perspective.
Lex is spectacular, brilliant! Its beautiful and inspiring to see such a great and wonderful mind in action!
honestly integllogent life would probably most likely lool similar to us unless it developed underwster. But bieng bipedal and having two arms and the "humanoid" shapes seems to me like the modt logicsl way to adapt to bieng intelligent. You hands and arms to manipulste the environmenr around you and somethinf like legs propellibg you in any given direction. Hobestly could you think of a more efficient way of adapting physically to be intelligent?
Yes but I have read of the improbability of proteins forming by accident into a replicating human is truly a gigantic number.
This is not repeated enough, or maybe it’s just purposely glossed over
Yes, we do tend to fill in gaps when we don't know what something is. However, we are also intelligent enough to apply our deductive capabilities to a problem. He seems to have forgotten the famous quote > "When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."
Back around 2006 looking up aliens on the net, found through a friend project Camelot who had an interview with a guy who claimed there were hundreds of alien species on earth now and the only difference between us and them is the number of teeth in our mouths, when I told my friends we instantly started counting the number of teeth in our head.
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. They're able to replicate our form perfectly except for a few teeth, yeah sure
So which one of you was an alien ?
Well?
Not replicate, they travel here, not sure about molecular shape shifting technology.
I read some where average human has 32 teeth in their head, I may have a few more molars.
Please do a video on the abductions, Travis Walton fighting with the Beings is just one account, but lets start with just that one case and resolve it, and when i say resolve it i mean try to discount the Beings, either our IQ is unable to understand this concept or we are all being controlled, take your pick. Tim Lee UK
@@xmidge3851 Rogan did one but with no one from the intel services being there, Lex has not, Rogan only has a limited understanding of this topic and is coming from a that will be good for numbers direction, these issues need true and proper follow up and open debate with both sides at the table, Gov or Gov pay roll we don`t know what these are...... and the Abductee, with open phone lines so as to stop side steps. Travis is just one, i have a very big list so i am sure it could be doen if they were truly trying to understand this. as i say they are not, numbers and not knowledge is not the way.
It stands to reason that if the laws of physics are the same throughout the universe consisting of the same chemical elements I think intelligent life would look pretty similar to us
Uniformity is the coin of the realm.
It's basically impossible for us to be alone the universe is so huge but saying that I don't think any have visited us.
What if most life on earth has been seeded from other “places”, we honestly know nothing in the grand scheme of things. Our little bit of scientific knowledge is what it is.. at best most of our “absolutes” are theories. We might never have the answer for everything, bit its fun to theorize.
Saw this guy on another podcast and thought damn he’s smart. Watching him talk to Lex im realizing he was just smarter than the other host
That’s funny.
this guy is not a thinker by any stretch of the imagination. Very simplistic.
Correction, he’s not an emotional over thinker that focuses on the least probable options. He focuses on the most probable like all scientists. If you want to entertain yourself with more fairytales go watch more movies. There’s a reason scientists don’t entertain too much imagination, science would have never developed in that way…
@@JF-yo7vu huh? The guest is obviously out of his depth.
I wasn’t saying he’s not intelligent or smart. I was only saying how Lex seems to subconsciously process thing multiple levels below the surface and this guy only speaks on the surface level of what he sees as absolute.
i think there are different alien races who work together like a community, the greys are the brain who innovate and then some humanoid that does the labor kinda like a hierachy
"It is improbable we are alone" Probably the opposite. 50 million years is enough to travel every corner of the galaxy with fraction of lightspeed. The galaxy is billions of years old where are they then? Saying that there is no way they would be carbon based is downright stupid. Carbon is the 4th most common element in the universe and highly active chemically.
50 million years to cover the entire galaxy at a fraction of lightspeed, maybe. But there are about 2 trillion galaxies out there
Yes and we can look as much as we want in space, we're looking at pictures millions of years old (the time light took to travel to us/probes) if they (aliens) are using the same tech as us and looking out and see earth, they'll see an exo planet and won't see lights on it since millions of years ago humans didnt have lights all over continents
@@njbright8626 What if intelligent life occurs once in a septillion times? The modern human is 200000 years old it has taken more than 4 billion years to get to this point the chances intelligent life existing parallel to us are who knows how low. Billions of species have evolved on earth and only one is known to be capable of the feats we can do. Clearly we are a statistical anomaly.
@@Kain366 yes, chances could be low. But could be high too. Billions of earth like planets out there potentially. Only takes one of them to habour life and evolve in a similar way we did (or possibly faster.) If they evolved a billion years before us, they'd be way ahead of technologically. Especially if their planet has elements and resources that ours doesnt. Also they may be disease free and have mastered longevity. You just have to consider the vast possibilities.
There here I’ve seen them first one back in 1976 over the Columbia river in morning daylight gray sauce with reddish orange bubble on top eye opener I believe they are like from the pitcher side very magical in Laymans term Seen 2 more sense but not as close the first one was up close we came under a over pass and popped out and there it was it was tipped towards the Portland airport then it realized we were there and tipped towards us my brother in-law put the pedal to the Metal so I didn’t get to see where it went there here
It's highly improbable that other life forms are able to (fly?) around space . Look at our galaxy .
I disagree that it's absurd to think that intelligent alien life would be anything like us. On the contrary - assuming rare-earth hypothesis (a reasonable assumption), then why would 2.5 billion years of evolution from single-cell to intelligent, aggressive, expansionistic, dry-surface lifeform NOT yield something very similar to us? Same universe, same physics, similar planetary conditions... etc
I’ve thought many times that “aliens” are actually “us” in the future coming back/returning into the past (now) by time travel to “us” now (or whenever we happen to experience a sighting.
#Interstellar
I have the same thought! Glad to find another person who thinks so. Imo, these UFO phenomena are from humans in the distant future who've figured out time travel and are coming back wanting to warn us in as a harmless way as possible that they're tired of being space nomads, wandering aimlessly through space, and to not screw up and abandon Earth.
@@wer123456 more like #arrival
@@SampsonGizmo no, not really. Arrival has actual aliens teaching a human how to think outside of the human perspective of time. Interstellar features an advanced state of humanity that can reach backwards in time to leave messages.
Dude I was just thinking about that 😂
As we all know ( at least most of us ) on the planet called Earth that we all live on life comes in so many different forms so it would be naïve on our part and really stupid to believe that
it's different on other planets and
other galaxies .
The thing is that not matter from where is who the rules of life are the same
for all of us .
I was thinking to myself as I was watching this video who is the hippie Lex is interviewing. Never in a million years would I’d believe he was a former CIA intelligence officer. Then I read “Covert” agent. Ahhh makes sense now.
Ha I thought the same thing too! 😆
Hahaha, right!!
Why draw a conclusion when the answer is you don't know.
Our perceptions are limited, but.... anyone who tells you they "know" is bound to be a cast away on their own island of limitation.
"I would do it [study UFOs], but before agreeing to do it, we must insist upon full access to discs recovered. For instance, in the L.A. case, the Army grabbed it and would not let us have it for cursory examination." J. Edgar Hoover-Director of FBI
The security guard called and said, “Sir, there’s a glowing red object hovering right outside the front gate. I’ve got all the men out here with their weapons drawn.” We lost between 16-18 ICBMs (nuclear tipped Inter Continental Ballistic Missiles) at the same time UFOs were in the area… (A high-ranking Air Force officer) said, “Stop the investigation; do no more on this and do not write a final report. I heard that many of the guards that reported the incident were sent off to Vietnam." Captain Robert Salas, USAF, during a videotaped interview for the Disclosure program.
"A few insiders know the truth...and are studying the bodies that have been discovered." -Dr. Edwin Mitchell Apollo 14..the 6th NASA employee to walk on the Moon.
"Maximum security exists concerning the subject of UFOs.” CIA Director, Allen Dulles, 1955.
"It's still classified above Top Secret." - Senator Barry Goldwater, 1975
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
“We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false” -William Casey, CIA director, 1981
“Yes, there have been ET visitations. There have been crashed craft. There have been material and bodies recovered. There has been a certain amount of reverse engineering that has allowed some of these craft, or some components, to be duplicated. And there is some group of people that may or may not be associated with government at this point that have this knowledge. They have been attempting to conceal this knowledge. People in high level government have very little, if any, valid information about this. It has been the subject of disinformation in order to deflect attention and create confusion so the truth doesn’t come out. ” ― Edgar D. Mitchell, The Way of the Explorer: An Apollo Astronaut's Journey Through the Material and Mystical World
AFFIDAVIT (1) My name is Thomas Jefferson Dubose (2) My address is: XXXXXXXXXX (3) I retired from the U.S. Air force in 1959 with the rank of Brigadier General. (4) In July 1947, I was stationed at Fort Worth Army Air Field [later Carswell Air Force Base] in Fort Worth, Texas. I served as Chief of Staff to Major General Roger Ramey, Commander, Eighth Air Force. I had the rank of Colonel. (5) In early July, I received a phone call from Maj. Gen. Clements McMullen, Deputy Commander, Strategic Air Command. He asked what we knew about the object which had been recovered outside Roswell, New Mexico, as reported in the press. I called Col. William Blanchard, Commander of the Roswell Army Air Field, and directed him to send the material in a sealed container to me at Fort Worth. I so informed Maj. Gen. McMullen. (6) After the plane from Roswell arrived with the material, I asked the Base Commander, Col. Al Clark, to take possession of the material and to personally transport it in a B-26 to Maj. Gen. McMullen in Washington, D.C. I notified Maj. Gen. McMullen, and he told me he would send the material by personal courier on his plane to Benjamin Chidlaw, Commanding General of the Air Material Command at Wright Field [later Wright Patterson AFB]. The entire operation was conducted under the strictest secrecy. (7) The material shown in the photographs taken in Maj. Gen. Ramey’s office was a weather balloon. The weather balloon explanation for the material was a cover story to divert the attention of the press. (8) I have not been paid or given anything of value to make this statement, which is the truth to the best of my recollection. Signed: T. J. Dubose Date: 9/16/91 Signature witnessed by: Linda R. Split Notary Public, State of Florida
"There exists a shadowy government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself. “ - Daniel Inouye Senate Select Committee on Secret Military Assistance to Iran and the Nicaraguan Opposition (Iran-Contra hearings) (1987)
Genesis 19:24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven...
As the Quran has it, Prophet Muhammad took a night trip to heaven aboard a trusty winged pony-horse-mule-ish creature called Buraq...
We know. You know. We know that you know.
MEANINGFUL congressional hearings, ala the Watergate hearings, including aerospace/defense contractors and others such as Bob Lazar, Andrew Basiago and Vice Admiral Thomas R. Wilson must be held to address a vital issue that transcends politics and we will never properly advance until it happens: The 75+yr ongoing-constitutionally illegal, EXTRATERRESTRIAL and associated TIME TRAVEL cover-ups. How can we truly believe anything our elected officials say?
The dog n pony shows must cease
asap
Lex perfectly describes my thoughts on the Bible. I've always thought it's God giving it to us similar to us communicating a rough set of rules-for-living to our dogs.
That's what Religion is, period. Some people lack the strength of character to live a good life without the fear of repercussion which in itself is quite the frightening thought.
If we noticed ants using nuclear weapons we would start to really pay attention and probably manipulate the ants to ensure they don’t spread to far
@@Joe-sg9ll if it threatened your existence you may change your mind, but yeah fire ants are the true top of the food chain.
Life IS intelligence
imaginated ? there is a red line under that......
Ants do everything for the good of the colony, without hesitation. Whom is more evolved?
Just because ants are small doesn't mean they are not intelligent. Intelligence is not intrinsically a human thing. Just look at how sophisticated hierarchy they have and strategies to do things.
Anyone else had enough of Mr. Surveillance State Is Good?
“Ants aren’t intelligent.” Is a matter of fact assumption. We would need to sufficiently define what intelligence is and that’s still very hard to do. All other species on this planet are alien if we can’t communicate so just like we shouldn’t make assumptions on an extraterrestrials way of thinking we shouldn’t make assumptions on the flora and fauna here. Also you need Hypothesis to form theories and theories to generate any form of experimentation or understanding. So all great thought Is based initially off of assumption.
As far as aliens being bipedal, if we aren’t the first species to have arms and legs, say the aliens created us, then we would be the anomaly and they wouldn’t be. Maybe all the races they create are bipedal, in the same way we wants all robots to eventually be. The designer always designs after itself.
The fact is, we just have no idea. We don't know how life arose, and we cant't estimate the probability of life arising, or of intelligent life. There could be millions of civilisations, or there could be exactly one. Nobody knows.
Lol what, he said it’s impossible for us to be alone considering the amount of galaxies etc (so much possibilities) & I don’t disagree with that but right after he says it’s inconceivable for them to be like us (carbon based etc.) wtf 😂
Homeboy shut down the idea that they would integrate to learn from us as being "human" but not 2 minutes earlier, presented the fact that they wouldn't want to be observed as fact about them.. play by your own rules dude.. or is it that everyone else's assumptions muddy the waters but your assumptions are spot on?
Why would we assume that OUR scientific method is universal?
5:11- That's not true at all. Dolphins have been observed doing all three of those observation, attempted communication and integration or attempted integration.
Makes sense I mean we study birds and now we have airplanes, typically modeled after birds
We don't really model planes after birds nowadays
That thumbnail of yours kills NASA.
And Meal DeGrease "Lajson" (in Serbian)
However, there are uap flying around now for over 100 years, there are cave paintings of the same things. Something is flying around, and it's not humans lol
Highly impressed by the way he thinks. It is so logical, and yet not simple
They're are plenty of instances when we don't give a shit about being observed while studying many different species. Also humans have tried to communicate with lots of less intelligent species while trying to study them. I definitely disagree with some of his rational thoughts on the subject.
Or maybe they look like us cuz they are mimicking the beast the can for some reason. Like we put a robot penguin in the wild to study penguins. It doesn't smell like one, moves kinda weird, looks a LITTLE off from what they look like. But that's how we gather info
How is them looking like us so crazy? What if the blueprint for life itself is ALWAYS eyes to see and hands to grab and appendages to walk on (in some sort of way). We have nothing to compare us to, so we have no idea if it's gunna be completely diff, or every life form in the universe follows these rules? Even if not, with how much life possibilities there has to be out there, it would be kinda crazy for there NOT to be another place with life that has a head, arms and legs.
Same universe, same physics. It's entirely plausible if not probable that some decent proportion of other intelligent life looks eerily similar to us
Ants have to be the worst example of attempting to communicate with other species!
Use dolphins, chimps or gorillas.
He answered in his first sentence
If the title of the video ends in a question mark the answer is most always, a firm no.
this video hurt my brain
We are obviously not on the same technical level as the other lifeforms that we have physical evidence of, i.e.. spacecraft, military paranormal evidence and our inability to explain the situation.
also, we always talk as aliens being so advanced to us, but we don't know if some civilizations were reached by another one far more advanced and gave them the tech, showed them how to operate, travel to the stars, etc. we don't know if some of them have the reasoning of medieval people, but just with high advanced technology. so much we don't know. but for sure not all aliens are millions of years ahead. not neccessarily went to the same tech evolution process as us. and also, doesnt mean we would need a million years to get there. human society has a cancer stopping real tech developments, corruption and greed. we would be far more advanced if we didn't have those.
I am glad I'm not the only one who thought this guy sounded rather pretentious. You guys rock.
I'm glad they help you protect your fragile ego
@@nickg1743 Is that supposed to be an insult? My friend, we all know what type of dudes go around calling people who disagree with them a "fragile ego" hahaha projecting much?
@@jonjonah4288 🤣That's cute bro, your response says it all
@@nickg1743 🤣🤣 You got no idea bud. Ignorance must be bliss
I hate how methodically and calculated RUclips has become with making you watch Ads. What a stain on the tech world.
Thanks Silicon Valley
I'm only replying to the first 3 sentences this guest uttered.
If intelligent, sentient life is probable to the degree that it exists at any point in time only once per galaxy system; we would be asking ourselves the question "How much life is there?"
If intelligent, sentient life is probable to the degree that 10^2 occurrences exists at any point in time per galaxy system but they haven't contacted us; we would be asking ourselves the question "How much life is there?"
If intelligent, sentient life is probable to the degree that 10^4 occurrences exists at any point in time per galaxy system but they haven't contacted us; we would be asking ourselves the question "How much life is there?"
If intelligent, sentient life is probable to the degree that 10^8 occurrences exists at any point in time per galaxy system but they haven't contacted us; we would be asking ourselves the question "How much life is there?"
See the pattern here? In the absence of contact; we have no solid clues on how much intelligent, sentient life there could possibly be in the galaxy. Any statement of certainty, be it Drake equation informed or not, shows signs of logic fallacy and does not warrant further listening to.
Well, I would like to know exactly what conspiracies he thinks are too far out there.
Maybe the Ant's consciousness exists at the level of the hive. Maybe the hive is the organism and its intelligence ought to be measured as a single unit.
far out
“Imaginated”
Most have next to zero concept of the near insurmountable distances involved with regard to even the nearest star systems. The hard truth is life certainly may not be unique to humans/ life on earth, but without teleportation, there's virtually no conceivable means to simply travel the absurd distances required.
Think of it like we humans are stuck on an island. The nearest land with other people, is at least 1,000 years away.
For context "Alpha Centauri is the nearest star and planetary system to Earth - it is 4.37 light-years away, but it would take a human about 6,000 years to get there with current technology."
Comparing us to ants and extraterrestrials to us is apples and oranges. We and ants are on the same planet. Extraterrestrials and us being from different planets is totally different to a degree we can't even fathom.
Listen! If they are of our like I mean very similar to our features, its most likely because they either created us, were here on earth long before us, or both.
does a mouse in a maze not know its being studied?
Smart Guys.
Dinosaurs were here first right?
We in fact may be a breeding species of a mix of human races from other planets, as all the ancient cultures said, our gods came from the stars, so, it would be a very obvious thing if they are similar to us, as we share the same DNA.
That is very unlikely. It is possible however that all life is related and spread through asteroids.
@@Cryptech1010 what is unlikely to us doesnt mean is unlikely to the universe. Just take a look to all the ancient religions, civilizations, native american stories and you will see a clear pattern, some advance civilization they call gods or angels came from the stars and mixed with our DNA
@@javoferoz4819 I agree that is a possibility, out of a bunch of other possibilities. We just don't have enough info
In terms of our galaxy:
1. Simple life appeared on this world as soon as it could, so seems easy. Complex technological life, like us, took literally billions of years longer, so seems a hard prospect.
2. A technologically advanced extra-terrestrial life form would have to survive its own tendency for self destruction, war, climate change, not to mention natural disasters. It would also have to be around now, in the 13.8 billion year history of the universe, a very small window.
3. If we consider the Fermi Paradox, then just one species surviving the "great filter" and not destroying itself, would colonise the galaxy in just two million years, even at the velocity's we humans travel now... and yet we see and hear nothing.
I would say that complex technological life, like us, is probably quite rare in our galaxy given the three factors above. And it is feasible that its non-existent in our galaxy in our present window of time.
In terms of the universe as a whole, our current measurements suggest that the universe is geometrically flat, thus infinite. In which case
life, not just like us but identical to us, is inevitable, and every variation of life in-between. Simply because atoms can only arrange themselves in a limited number of ways and then must repeat.
The argument Andrew makes at 1:18 is hilarious to me. He talks himself around the problem so plainly that it's unreal he doesn't see it. They couldn't possibly be smarter than us because their actions make no sense to the smartest among us. Human understanding of science is being used as paramount understanding in this argument. If they truly were that much more intelligent than us, they'd have reasons that make no sense to us.
That kind of leap in technology would look like magic to us.
Most of his arguments are hilarious.
I think he's not considering the aliens who we haven't encountered, only the ones we have. The ones we have encountered, might not be that smart to make the mistake of being caught. But there are even more intelligent aliens who, shit might not even have a physical form or exist in ways we can't comprehend or detect with our current technology or human senses. Aliens could literally shoot an invisible beam that casts over the entire earth that renders our brains to change juuust slightly to where it's unnoticeable. And watch us go insane at the slooow progression of a few generations, with seemingly zero conclusion as to what caused it let alone even detect something's wrong or fathom something like aliens caused it in the first place, bc it was such a subtle almost invisible change. We would just blame the government put something in the water or some shit. Bc it's out of our comprehension
We are too insignificant to a higher being to want to communicate or even notice us. We can be a spec of dirt waiting to be extinct as some infinite being strolling by universes, wipes us out completely and it could have been a complete accident.
Imagine if humans were the ones who were secretly sending troops and drones into space through some kind of hidden tech/portal/etc, and the Aliens are just probing us innocent civilians for information on how to defeat the human invasion.
Imagine humans sent out troops and drones into space a long time ago and are just coming back to visit earth as aliens.
Or we might have originated from another planet a long time ago and have lost our history here.
Interesting to think that the longest persisting religious ideas might actually be the information that encodes our lost history.
@@socter My dude.............
It is perfectly plausible that the probability of life starting from scratch is a number which is so small that it greatly outweighs the numbers of opportunities, the number of worlds out there there in the universe for life to get going. For example if the probability of life beginning is one in septillion then the case for a crowded universe evaporates. In such a scenario we are the only example of success. our anthropocentric bias clouds our view. The probability of our world being able to support life could be smaller than the number of atoms in the universe for all we know, the idea that we exist on a planet that supports life doesn't say much because we wouldn't exist to wonder if there are Alliens if our planet couldn't support life. Observation selection bias ruins so much of the logic
Life “starting from scratch” is a description that isn’t exactly accurate. The universe appears fundamentally finely tuned for creating conditions favorable to life. Change any of dozens and dozens of fundamental parameters by less than 1 or 2% & no life. Change the strength of gravity just slightly - no stars forming. Change the strong force by a smigen no complex molecules. Etc. Etc.
The thing about nature is it always repeats itself. Our planet is not an exception. It is highly likely that wherever life can be - it is. Life and consciousness maybe a force of nature itself and we (life throughout the cosmos) maybe a way for the universe to know itself.
We have had similar thoughts about conditions we believed to be uninhabitable for life. And when we went to investigate, we found out that there was life and that, conversely, perhaps our diminishing of the forces of nature (which we egoically believe we are above) is the anthropocentric take. Granted, cellular life - but even when talking about the scale of the galaxy, let alone the Universe, we lose any intuitive understanding of what we're dealing with: The absolute unstoppable creative forces of nature. Recognise the limits of our observational ability, and recognise our own arrogance as a species. The anthropocentric take is to view ourself as the exception, rather than the rule.
@@brandoncollings7611
Extremophiles are highly sophisticated organisms with advanced complexe internal machinery to help them cope with the diverse range of conditions in which they inhabit. They are the product of billions of years of evolution, but the very first biological cell to emerge from muck could not have been equipped with this kind of advanced internal machinery. It would have been far simpilar. So the fact that life can adapt to extreme conditions does not speak to the question of whether life can start in extreme conditions.
To make any sort of statistical argument we need two points of information. The number of habitable worlds and the probability of abiogenesis. While astronomy has made great inroads about one of these the truth is we have no idea what the probability of abiogenesis is. It is entirely possible that the probability of abiogenesis is vastly smaller than the number of habitable worlds in the universe, we just don't know.
@@LiteShaper1 The apparent fine tuning of the universe to produce life falls into the same trap as the apparent fine tuning of the earth to produce life. We necessarily observe from an environment capable of producing observers.
As to nature repeating itself yes this holds true if the universe is infinite, in that case every possible configuration, no matter how unlikely, would exist an infinite number of times. Infinity destroys probability. If the universe is finite then it is entirely possible that the probability of abiogenesis is vastly smaller than the number of habitable worlds in the universe, we just don't know.
@@stevie5989 What you are describing is a multiverse scenario where there is no life and no apparent fine tuning because every conceivable outcome has been expressed in an infinite amount of other universes where we aren’t there to observe it and where the physical laws are different.
There is zero empirical evidence to support this theory and has all of the earmarks of a mathematical abstraction to rationalize the unlikely life friendly cosmos we find ourselves in. Its unfalsifiable. It’s a Theory of Anything as opposed to everything.
I think there is some other deeper component here likely related to the idea of consciousness being fundamental and the catalyst for space/time. We are in a universe whose fundamental laws are life friendly and produces observers because the universe is correlated to life and consciousness & observation is the eternal catalyst for its existence. You can not have one without the other.
We may not be alone but that does not mean aliens are anywhere near us.
Wow