Goodbye Zara | Zara goes to a trainer...
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The commitment you have to your horses and their wellbeing is so admirable! Thank you for being an encouragement to me as well 🙂 You are such an inspiration!
Also, Zara loading on the trailer like it’s no big deal😳 musta been a proud mom moment 😂
It’s important to ask for help! I have a horse who was started by an amateur who didn’t seek out help when issues started to arise (bolting) and ended up dumping him, I have had him for a year now and it’s much harder to retrain a badly trained horse then start a new one. He is very well bred but for an unpapered horse a situation like his could have landed him in a much less resourced situation that wouldn’t be able to support all the help he has needed… it’s about what is good for the horse and ensuring they have enough education that they never end up in bad situations
Zara followed you, got onto the trailer, waited for you and began to eat... BECAUSE of the training you e done. You've learned the best lesson...to do things better...and you have. Looking forward to future updates and your next mustang...the best horseman learn from being exposed to as many horses with different personalities and needs physically and mentally. Thank you for putting the horses needs above your own. Also, the best teaching method is the one that works for the animal and gives you more tools for the next one....making things easier for you and the horse....great job!
Thank you!! 🙏🏻
From what I have learned is that before you start teaching a horse how to lead or be lunged, you should be able to get a halter and lead rope on them, but then just leave the halter and lead on and go do other things outside. Because then the horse will end up teaching its self how to respond to pressure.
And with the whole R+ thing, I have never used only R+ on a horse. I use a healthy mix between positive and negitive. So that the horses know where the line is, and can still be progressing and learning.
Mustangs just take a little time! They will get there eventually!
Hi! Zara is so cute! I hope she learns a lot there! We will miss her while she is gone!
The way she stepped right in and waited patiently for you to hang up the hay net shows that you have definitely not broken her trust. She still very clearly trusts and respects you. I know you have had many setbacks with her but you really are doing great! I can't wait to see the progress both you and Zara make with this trainer. I am sure you two are going to learn so much together!
Aww I’m gonna miss Zara she’s sooo pretty
I hope you will learn a lot by having Zara at a trainer. Tough decision to send her away, at ajust your goals so much!
I se it as a strengh that you put the wellbeeing and education of your horse first.
I love your presence and honesty in your videos!
Awww, I'm so proud of you. Both of you.
Good for you!
Sam Vanfleet also uses positive reinforcement and i watch her. she is really good with horses, and watching her work with them has helped me some. I am training/breaking my horse. I'm 14 and so hopefully i'll be really good at training horses when i''m older cause i want to be a horse trainer.
She will do good at the trainer! I just know it! Best of luck!!! I love watching your channel!Tell Zara hey for me!
Ha no I'm a mom and my animals are just like my kiddos. Same feelings. You just go through stages faster with animals!
Is Zara coming back?
I love your videos so much! Going to muss Zara!
How is she I would like to jet a update on her!
I think you made the best dicision. don't take it as a failure at all. Thought you were doing a trail ride, thought that was the intention????.
Awwwww
Early! we’ll miss her so much
You shouldn’t let a horse just Rome in the trailer you need to put the divider across it is safer
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That's sad cause positive reinforcement is always better than negative reinforcement
I honestly used to believe that as well. Until working with different horses and seeing how they respond. There are research studies that say nervous horses actually do better with negative reinforcement than they do with positive reinforcement. Negative reinforcement could be “bad” if you were abusive towards the animal. But positive reinforcement could also be considered abuse if you had to leave the horse in the pen for its whole life because it couldn’t be led. The method that has the 26 task uses negative reinforcement in it as well for teaching tying. I would be interested to hear your thoughts on why positive reinforcement is always better and what research you’ve found to back it up. I wanted to believe that +R was the best and only way but the more research I do the more I learn to see you don’t have to be 100% one or another- rather you can use a mix of methods.
You have helped me so much to see what adopting a mustang is really like. I really admire your openness and honesty and how you share the frustrations as well as all your achievements, because it does seem like the two are intertwined when it comes to training a wild horse.
If there's anything I've learned in my own horse behavior studies, it's that a healthy mix of +R and -R has worked best. -R works really well for some signals and to help horses stay calm in stressful situations and +R makes for interaction being a pleasant and fun experience while learning new things.
It's difficult making these kinds of decisions. Good on you for moving forward and being open minded enough to look at things from multiple points of view. 💖
What you wrote about how R+ and R- both work for you and your horses for different things at different times validates what I have found too.
This is exactly what I was going to say but I couldn't quite figure out how to put it into words. I believe there have also been studies done that claim most horses retain information better through -R, but +R is so much more relaxed and fun. The perfect mix allows your horse to retain information better while also enjoying the training.
@@evawolflord it’s good to hear that as that is what I have evolved into after doing all R- for years, then switching to all R+. Now I use a blend. I also believe that our human personalities make a huge difference whichever one we use. For me and my talent level and personality, using both is best for me and my horse.
This is exactly the conclusion I've come to with R+ and R- training pretty much across every species. Very well said.
I'm so proud of you. You really have come so far with her, and it really shows how much you care about her to be able to make these tough decisions. Everything's a learning opportunity, and you will he able to apply all the things you learned with Zara to future mustangs. I can't wait to see how far Zara comes at the trainers!
I’m going to miss Zara but I’m so happy at the same time she’s going to learn so much you definitely made the right choice! 💖🐴
I just want to say that your videos and being able to watch the progress you've made has been incredibly inspirational! I got my first straight off the track ottb last year and things have been moving incredibly slowly. Watching you and seeing the all the progress you've made keeps reminding me that everybody's journey is different, and slow progress doesn't mean no progress. I am throughly impressed with everything you've done with all of your horses! Thank you for sharing your journey (suceesses and struggles both)!
Hey could you please give me the ig of the project thing and the trainer please ? Thanks😁
I hope Zara will learn and like it there while she’s there and we will all miss her while she’s gone 😢❤
Hmmmm, star stable pfp question mark?
@@RippleSora What’s wrong with it-?
@@horsesslay552 I'm sorry if my comment sounded rude. I was just surprised to find another Star stable player on a totally different website 😅
@@RippleSora hahah! Fair enough! I play sso as well! Sorry , I misunderstood. C:
I play sso a lot and don’t want my pop to be plain and I can’t show my face or anything 😊
This is an amazing video. I got my roping horse in 2001, and he was more horse than I needed. I went to 2 clinics with him, and we learned a lot but not what we needed. We then went to a trainer Karen Jones and the difference in training was amazing. He learned to hook up with me and be more respectful. He just turned 29 and is an awesome horse.
Aww! I'm gonna miss Zara. I hope she learns some more!
I am new to horse training as well. When Zara finally stopped running, she was also learning to calm herself. You did a great job trying to prepare her, even if there was a bigger reaction than expected. I saw her thinking and relaxing and licking and chewing. My suggestion would have been to quietly approach and reward her stopping with picking up the rope again. If there was another reaction, I do not think it would last long and you may have seen her think her way through it much faster. I really admire the way you put it all out there for everyone to learn from what you have done. Thank you so much for your videos!
It’s totally fine for her to run around with the rope dragging. It helps to show them it’s nothing to be scared of. Sometimes they will freeze but you just need to run them so they keep moving till they understand.
You are so brave! That’s a hard decision but definitely the right 1!🥰
I think the idea to do positive and negative reinforcement was a great one! They are both really important for a horse to learn!
She's a beautiful horse
Are yall still going on that hiking trip with them?
@5:44 that's so interesting love that -- being positivity-oriented is great.... but yeah that balance/happy medium you were determining sounds so interesting. that's in my pocket now! ty for sharing
You put your horses needs first what could be more admirable? And it is so great you will be able to observe her training! I think just like people every horse learns differently. My favorite famous trainer Warwick Schiller will often take a step back to figure out what the problem horse he is working with needs rather than just use his preferred training methods. Negative reinforcement has it's place and doesn't need to involve pain.
Heartfelt congratulations on all you've accomplished with her, and your wisdom in being willing to change tactics, and send her to a more experienced trainer when you felt that was best for her. 💗
Oh, and I have also had a great experience mixing negative and positive reinforcement with my young horse. Every horse is an individual!
I really think its incredible that Zara got right in behind you. That truly shows she really trusts you. She trusted you enough to climb into a big scary trailer, without any issues. Awesome content! I love watching your horse journey!
Girl, you can totally compare it to being a Mom! I'm a mom and a horse mom, training horses teaches me a lot about raising kids and vice versa. And I understand letting go of your "ideal" plan with your mustang. I've had to do the same with mine in so many ways. But it's so worth it! Keep at it! I love this quote by Kristina Kuzmic "Be Stubborn and Flexible. Be stubborn about your purpose, your passion, your goal. Be flexible about the approach, the process the timeline."
I like that you mentioned that not all training methods for all horses. People are really quick to say “oh positive reinforcement is the best” or “negative reinforcement is the only way to train a horse” when neither of those methods work for all horses. I think its good that your showing that your adjusting your plans and training to fit your horse rather than expecting your horse to fit your training, because a lot of trainers do that.
I know you won’t give up and I just want you to think back on Zurreal (sorry if I spelled her name wrong) and think where you were and where you are now, every mustang you get better and better so don’t give up!
You're allowed to compare your feeling to being a mom who has dropped their child off if you want, haha. People gate-keep the weirdest things!!! I know that feeling when I drop my dog off at the vet; like, man, I miss my kiddo. I hope they're ok! It's all love, plain and simple. I think you did amazing with Zara, your patience and kindness are outstanding. Great job doing everything within your power, and then realizing that perhaps some things are out of your power. Putting aside your personal ego can be incredibly hard to do in any capacity, so being able to do so for the betterment of something or someone else is a terrific feat!
She reminded me of my cats. xD
Last month one of my cats (which is blind to make things more difficult) went inside the paper bag and got the bag holder around her neck and then started speeding around the house, which then scared the other cat who started running around as if the devil itself was chasing them. Luckily, cats are small, so you can just grab them and help.
Im glad Zara is getting the help she needs, great job swallowing your pride and asking for help! it takes a great person to do that!! Will Zinny be moving in with Kazi and have her be Kazi's pasture mate? I can definitely see how Zara would be a amazing horse for liberty work.
Wow, you’ve come so far with her! I’m proud of all you’ve done with Zara, all you’ve learned.
Thank you!!!
Good luck having her trained and is it like a boarding thing you are bringing her too to train her? She is definitely doing better than when you first got her.👍🏻
And also at the end when she was being loaded and unloaded she seemed really relaxed 😊
You may have not been able to finish training her but you got her started and I can tell shes better then she was then when you first got her.
Aweee
Great job training Zara! 🐎
Horses learn from pressure
Watch them in a herd. They don't get treats and warm fuzzys from the herd. Not even the babies. They don't walk around with a bag of treats! They are looking for leadership not friendship. Being a friend to a horse is being their leader. So they don't have to fear all the scary stuff. With you being leader, they know you got this. Good luck to you.
You should try little projects I’m only 10 and I’m training a horse ground manners you should try doing that stuff may be a little higher because you’re probably more professional than me
That’s just what my horse riding instructor told me . By the way you are the best . Love you horses. By the way I am Jim’s daughter
With Zara now at the trainer could you spend more time with Zinny training her?
This is so cool to see someone who shows what it is really like training a mustang ( I have no idea I am just a 10 year old with un horsie parents having a ride on my big sisters horse every now and again waiting to find me and my sister's shared pony or cheep riding lessons)
But just a question is zinfindale ( idk how to spell it sorry) going to learn to be under saddle by that trainer or what's the plan.
12th! I love kazi so much she is my dream horse! I have seen a horse like kazi its been in of my youtube shorts and she stole my heart I love the arabines/bay kinda horses!
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You are an amazing person. I understand these training fears that can creep into the brain. Today our girls show up. Mine is only partially TIP trained because I’m going to finish it. I want to be a trainer myself and I need to remind myself that it will all be ok and each day is another day for me to learn something. It’s going to be so hard some days. Seeing your journey gives me courage and hope in my journey. Thank you for being you and for all the great videos. Thank you for taking us on your journey too.
Hey, i just wanted to mention that a good farrier can actually do a lot for hoofs even if the horse cant lift it for them. Its not perfect ofcourse but better than nothing.
Hope it helps, all the best
So are you selling her-!?
horses are hard and very humbling .. you did good
Wow how frightening for Zara and you THAT DAY SHE FELL APART!! Because of that day your life might have been saved.
At some point in any horse's training their pressure point happens, That's why pressure and release is so important and taught as soon as possible even to foals in a gentle way. You have done wonderful
and all your work is in her yet. Now how cool you are going to learn and do liberty
with her. Every horse makes us better horseman and training MUSTANG 🐎 makes you really aware of how sensitive horse's mind and body can be. Your third Mustang, I forgot her name is where you can truly enjoy training. Chin up you have done wonderful,!! Your horse and you haven't gotten hurt and that's the most important thing. You got a plan, taking her to someone and you can be part of the training. All is good just a little bump in the road. Take care. Susan
Thank you Susan I appreciate your kind words!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
You Got This!!!!🙂😊
How is Zenfldel doing would love to see update on her
Has Zara came back from the trainer yet?
Working with horses is so humbling. Well done for putting the horse first.
Thank you!!!
Has it really been 7 months?
I'm gonna miss Zara, I hope she learns a lot while she's away tho
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Good for you!!❤️❤️
We will al miss zara 😢
7 months!?
Zara loaded better than a lot of "fully trained" domestic horses I've seen.. Seriously impressive! And I love that you do whatever you need to for each of your horses - can't wait to see what you get up to with Zara in the future! :D
When she actually calmly followed you into the trailer, you were telling her "no". Really???
I think I was saying uh oh… and yes really! personally would have preferred not to walk behind a wild mustang who I’ve never been inside a trailer with.
Sometimes being a trainer means doing what is best for the horse. You have definitely shown that you want what is best for your horses. That is what makes you awesome.
Thank you Kriste❤️
I was hoping this was another April fools when I realized Zara was leaving....
Love all the mustangs
me too!
We need an update on Zara how's she been????
I’ll be updating y’all in April! 💕
I'LL MISS HER SO MUCH!! How's Zini??
will we have updates on ZARA?!
You’ve come so so far! It’s amazing to see the progress.
You’re an AMAZING trainer.
I hate feeling the set backs too so I understand!
Keeping you in my prayers!!
She’ll be back soon and this will be good for her! I know she’ll do great!
This video was somehow really touching to me. My gelding is a seven year old rescue who went to two different trainers before I got him. Both of them gave him up, saying he could never be a riding horse. I began riding him bareback with just a halter and a lead rope and everything was going well until I began to ride him with tack a few weeks ago. When I was lunging him the saddle got loose and slid under his belly. When I got on for the first time after that he bucked me off, and even if I get on without a saddle now he's uncomfortable and bolts every time I shift my weight. When I worked with him yesterday it felt like it was a bit better but it's frustrating to take such a big step back. I don't have the possibility to consult a professional trainer so we just have to work through that somehow. When I watched the video I felt less "alone". He's just like Zara scared of everything new but a pro with the things he's already learned. I love that pony so much!
I think that you’re doing a great job and made the right decision. My personal horse is a rescue who was beaten and would attack people. When I first got her she was the definition of dangerous. She would flip over at the slightest pressure and was an absolute menace to society. Using a combination of mostly negative reinforcement and some positive reinforcement I have retrained her to be a safe and successful ranch show horse. The point of this is horses can overcome anything and I think your making the right decision balancing out the positive and negative to get an amazing result. Good luck with Zara!
There is nothing wrong getting help and having a professional work with your horse. I’m picking my horse up from the trainers on the 18th! There was just some stuff I didn’t know how to do and we were both getting frustrated and being frustrated is okay, but not fair to a confused horse. You are doing great!
It is absolutely the same thing! Dropping of something you love and leaving is hard either way. So much courage Marina!
AWW NO I IM SO SAD I WILL MISS HER!!!!!!!
What trainer did she go to? Sorry if she said, I can’t watch the video now because I’m at the airport without headphones. Lol.
I so admire your honestly and openness regarding your journey with Zara. You've done so incredibly well and you are doing the absolute best for her. Every horse is different and some need extra/amended training methods to bring their education forward. My mare (als chestnut, pictured in our profile) is not food motivated at all. I will use it for putting her bridle on as I do not want to force the bit in her mouth. I may also use it for catching but not all the time. She is incredibly sensitive and responds best to pressure and release. She continues to teach me to this day about the ebb and flow of training. I've had her now 12 years and every day is different. I also take note of how she's feeling and would adapt our time together. Some days she is spooky as hell and very flighty, so I wouldn't ride that day, I may just brush her and if she walks off I leave her to it. Other days she comes up to me like hey mum, what can we do together. You are building a foundation for your relationship and the fact that you are putting your pride aside (which is incredibly hard!) Is admirable and Zara appreciates that. I look forward to her next update, all the best on your next steps both of you!
Aww, I love your mares & filly, they are so adorable. I can't wait for Zini and Kazi become best of friends and Kazi teaching Zini everything she knows. How does Zara and Kazi get along? Also, good luck with your new chapter with Zara! She's going to be amazing for sure! 💗
I got a few questions
Have you ever thought about getting a new horse and keep?
Have you ever done barrel race?
You really have done so much good with her an I know that others don’t see how hard it is. I love your courage and admire you a lot. 🥰🥰 it’s nice that your ok to talk about it
I think you're doing the right thing! I don't know a thing about training horses but I love watching your videos on your journey to learn. Zara is going to do great and so are you. :)
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I was scared that you where dropping her off for good I’m so happy your not can’t wait until part two
I hope Zara has a great experience with her new trainer. Also the comparison to the moms was hilarious 😂❤️
Oh wow Marina! you are so awesome for putting her needs first
Early! sorry you have to say goodbye to here we will keep you in our prayers
I hope Zara will be able to get the vet care and hoof care she needs soon!
When u thought Zara was being sent away for good 😅