The Blue Angels’ First F-18 Ejection: a Comprehensive Account with David Anderson

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  • Опубликовано: 19 май 2024
  • February 12, 1987, remains an indelible date etched in David Anderson's memory. Confronted with the necessity to eject from his Blue Angel F/A-18 Hornet above the unforgiving terrain of El Centro, California as his engines ceased functioning, this pivotal event would ultimately empower Anderson and the Blue Angels to institute modifications to their demonstration aircraft, thereby securing the safety of future teams.
    In this interview with RADM David Anderson, USN (Ret.), we are provided with a profound insight into the challenges faced by the United States Navy's renowned Blue Angels squadron during their transition from the aging A4 Skyhawk to the formidable F/A-18 Hornet. The interview, conducted with a sense of historical significance, elaborates on the complexities encountered by the Blue Angels during this pivotal period, culminating in Admiral Anderson's dramatic ejection on February 12, 1987.
    With the F-18 came a number of limitations for the Blue Angels, particularly concerning maneuvers, such as prolonged inverted flight and negative G capability. The absence of established flight clearances further exacerbated the difficulties, as the F/A-18 had never been piloted in the manner required by the Blue Angels.
    Admiral Anderson, with candor and retrospection, shares the burden he placed upon himself to uphold the exacting standards of the Blue Angels' solo program, despite having no prior experience with the F/A-18. The absence of familiarity with both the aircraft and his Opposing Solo pilot, who was equally inexperienced with Blue Angel airshows, compounded the challenges faced.
    On February 12, 1987, engulfed in a high-stress training exercise, Anderson found himself in an unprecedented situation as both engines of his F/A-18 flamed out. The meticulous detail with which the ejection sequence is described portrays the urgency and gravity of the situation. In a testament to his resourcefulness and composure, he expertly executed his ejection, despite the inherent complexities of an unconventional 17-foot parachute.
    The narrative culminates with reflections on the invaluable support and leadership exhibited by the Blue Angels' chain of command. Admiral Anderson underscores the profound impact of this experience on his leadership philosophy and problem-solving approach throughout the remainder of his distinguished career.
    Lastly, the interview provides a poignant example of how the Blue Angels adapted and evolved their techniques, from addressing the in-flight issues that led to ejection to the implementation of inverted fuel pumps, which ultimately resolved critical challenges.
    Video Timestamps
    0:00 F/A-18 Hornet Transition
    0:47 Limitations During the Transition
    1:54 Starting Winter Training of 1987
    2:42 How to Recover From a Poorly Flown Maneuver
    4:30 Ejection Sequence
    8:28 Engine Explosion During Takeoff
    10:48 Lessons Learned
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  • @BLD426
    @BLD426 6 месяцев назад +30

    I was standing at the CalCot spur 250' away when your F-18 basically belly flopped onto the tracks. Nose pointed WSW. No fire. Walked up to it & saw there was no canopy. I called UP & told them there was a Blue Angel on the track & I figured I wasn't getting cars spotted that day. Small world.

  • @Joeysgonerogue
    @Joeysgonerogue 6 месяцев назад +98

    David is a standup guy. I was his crew chief the year prior. When was #6, I knew him well. He was always deeply committed to doing it right. Gil Rud was hands down the best skipper I ever had, and Wes Robinson is a fabulous Doc, musician and human. In 1987, I was Wayne Molnar's crew chief (opposing solo). Wayne went on to fly for Delta.. Everyone on the team was top-shelf. It was an incredible effort by all to transition to the hornet during winter training and be doing shows the next year! Nice job on the interview! Cheers, Joey

    • @evanfinch4987
      @evanfinch4987 6 месяцев назад +3

      Looks like he's sitting down here.

    • @donc9751
      @donc9751 5 месяцев назад +2

      Sounds like All of you folks whether you're flying the planes, keeping them flying, we're the best in every way at what you all did in order to get to that level of flying with the Blue Angels!
      Salute to all of you!! Must be great thinking back on many years of cool memories!!!

    • @Joeysgonerogue
      @Joeysgonerogue 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@donc9751 Thank you, indeed the best group of humans I’ve ever worked with!

    • @OfficialxSimple
      @OfficialxSimple 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@evanfinch4987 He's not speaking about physical position... He's talking about his personality of who he is.

    • @okeegator00
      @okeegator00 4 месяца назад +2

      i was on the Team 96-99, Boss Dom was the CO. Great Team and my best tour of my 22yrs.

  • @brocbradley2313
    @brocbradley2313 6 месяцев назад +19

    I remember the accident well. Our squadron (VT-21) was on a weapons Det in El Centro at the time. Our C.O., CDR G.G. Maxwell was placed on the review board. I didn't realize Mr. Anderson had the other issues with the tire and engine failure. Glad to hear he had a long career.

    • @adamshea8380
      @adamshea8380 5 месяцев назад

      I'll date you little bit....I checked in VMFA-323 right after we move from El Centro to Miramar

  • @rogerkober9836
    @rogerkober9836 6 месяцев назад +28

    As a aviation enthusiast that has followed the blues for 40 years, I found the details in this video fascinating. So many people just assume the Blues get “Top of the Line” new aircraft, it couldn’t be any further from the truth. What the team does and HOW they do it year after year never gets old and never ceases to amaze me. The way they bring on new people year after year and stay true to the traditions of the past is a marvel to behold. It is such a special thing in the world of aviation.

    • @brandonhebert5485
      @brandonhebert5485 6 месяцев назад +4

      They do get top of the line airplanes. This didn't happen because the plane was junk. It happened because it was a new airplane and they were learning about it. Every airplane out there takes time to set their teeth. Nothing is perfect, it's a machine. It says a lot that almost 30 years later we are still flying them.

    • @rogerkober9836
      @rogerkober9836 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@brandonhebert5485 The team and the maintenance crews do a phenomenal job with the jets they have, but 20 year old Super Hornets are not “Top of the Line.” If you listen to the video, he even says the planes were all pre-production, one of one aircraft.

    • @KeysAndMouse
      @KeysAndMouse 4 месяца назад

      @@rogerkober9836 I have no clue what the quality of the aircraft was, but this happened in 1987. It wasn't a super hornet, it was a hornet, and it was a pre-production model because the blue angels started flying them less than a year after their very first deployment with the navy and this happened very early into that, so for all intents and purposes, the aircraft was about as close to brand new as you can possibly get in the navy, hence why literally nobody on the team had flown it before.

  • @IslandDigital
    @IslandDigital 2 дня назад

    Back in the 90’s I was on the Police Department Motorcycle Unit. I had honor to escort the Blue Angels from their hotel in Altamonte Springs FL to their Air Show in Orlando FL. It was amazing speaking with these men. One said to me he thought my job was far more dangerous driving a Police bike at high speed through traffic. He said his job was just math, haha. Just an amazing team … Outstanding organization. Thank you all for your dedication and service.

  • @deans178
    @deans178 6 месяцев назад +3

    I saw the Blue's at Willow Run in 1972 in the F-4 Phantom. That aircraft was also a handful.

  • @thomasstevenrothmbamd2384
    @thomasstevenrothmbamd2384 6 месяцев назад +28

    Wow! This is an absolutely excellent presentation from a true American hero who at the time under rules was not allowed to be a test pilot but who did better test pilot work as a Blue Angels pilot than the test pilots and aeronautical engineers who let these F-18s into service with serious flaws that could have caused catastrophic air combat mission failures. I hope our US pilots have more phenomenal leaders like this in their ranks. This is true leadership! This is what we need in our US Armed Forces.

    • @blackhatfreak
      @blackhatfreak 5 месяцев назад

      Cringe

    • @cessnadriver6813
      @cessnadriver6813 2 месяца назад

      Doubtful...not with THIS administration. The current O6's and above are not leaders, they are the WOKE police. All the true leaders and war-fighters are quickly being pushed out.

  • @wheelermaximus6736
    @wheelermaximus6736 6 месяцев назад +8

    Semper Fi Brother,
    The Naval Aviator community and the Blue Angels in particular have always impressed the hell out of me. My favorite ride in many a Naval Aircraft was in the back of a TE-4J out over the Whiskey 291 training area with a Marine Corps Major Hickerson. That little 'sports car' was a trip to be in through out the ACM routine. Loved it and would do it again, even at my age of almost 75.
    USMC Retired
    1966-1989
    RVN 01/69 - 10/70

  • @daveheath3728
    @daveheath3728 6 месяцев назад +22

    Love these team members telling the stories of what goes on behind the shiney blue and gold paint . I remember watching Lt. Anderson , Boss Ruud and their team perform , but who knew what they had to go through to bring the show to us . Thanks for what you do so well , Ryan , to bring the rest of the show to us . 😎👍

  • @dirtcurt1
    @dirtcurt1 6 месяцев назад +11

    That was a truly amazing story. It verifies the A4 was a incredible aircraft and there were incredible pilots in the program.

    • @Skyhawks1979
      @Skyhawks1979 3 месяца назад +1

      The A-4 is one of the best aerobatic aircraft ever manufactured.

    • @jerrywhite2941
      @jerrywhite2941 3 месяца назад +2

      @@Skyhawks1979. Agreed, Crew Chief #1 & #7 75-78.

    • @cessnadriver6813
      @cessnadriver6813 2 месяца назад

      @@Skyhawks1979 ...and did their combat duty with elan. True work-horses!

  • @f14flyer11
    @f14flyer11 6 месяцев назад +27

    Admiral sir, Who knew you would need inverted fuel pumps on jets that would do extensive negative G inverted flight. you guys were lucky in that first season with the Hornet...

    • @dirtcurt1
      @dirtcurt1 6 месяцев назад +1

      I was at Reno this year and got to stay in the pits with my RV. There was a Super Hornet display daily and man that plane is a beast. It was doing negative pushes over the top that caught me by surprise. It also flys on the tailpipe quite well. It was tied with of all things the Bonanza demo as best flying in my opinion of course.

    • @reedjet
      @reedjet 6 месяцев назад

      @@dirtcurt1was there as well, that hornet was impressive!!

  • @fikipilot
    @fikipilot 3 месяца назад +1

    What an INSIGHTFUL interview. Thank you for your service Commander.

  • @oxcart4172
    @oxcart4172 5 месяцев назад +4

    I'm full of admiration for people like him. They know that if they screw up (even slightly), it could be all over for them, but they go ahead and do it anyway.

  • @hammertime964
    @hammertime964 6 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you Dave for your courtesy and camaraderie you extended to me back in 80s! 🍻

  • @thereissomecoolstuff
    @thereissomecoolstuff 6 месяцев назад +7

    Really enjoy these behind the scene stories. Thanks Ryan.

  • @thomasfx3190
    @thomasfx3190 4 месяца назад

    What a professional, I'm so sorry you had to go through that. You're a very dedicated & tactically proficient pilot & leader. I'm very impressed with your presence of mind during these events.

  • @pkelly3463
    @pkelly3463 6 месяцев назад +9

    Anderson imo was the best announcer the Blues had. He had that auditable voice with deep residence. And if memory serves, he was one of the few that pretty much stood at attention, never flinched to see where the diamond or solos where. He had the timing down. Great pilot too. Anderson also referred to a maneuver called the opposing blivot. Two solos cross at center point with one hit, roll 180 into the vertical belly to belly, then cross again at the top. 2nd hit. Very exciting. LtCmdr. Michael Gershon lost his life in Niagara Falls performing this and collided with Lt.Caputi on the top hit. Caputi ejected successfully.

    • @kaypie3112
      @kaypie3112 6 месяцев назад

      I was at the airshow at NAS Moffett the week before the accident that you are referring to that killed Gershon.
      I vividly remember seeing that maneuver and thinking, “there is very little margin for error. Someone’s gonna hurt.”
      Sure enough, one week later….

    • @pkelly3463
      @pkelly3463 6 месяцев назад

      @kaypie3112 I was there as well. But there will always be a point of risk during the demo. Just a few yrs ago, Lt. Jeff Kuss lost his life during a relatively simple split S maneuver. Fatigue and he executed the too low were the results of the investigation. The opposing blivot was a safe maneuver. It looked more dangerous (optically) then it really was. I question how that extended push for +Gs would inhibit the super bug performance tho...

    • @kaypie3112
      @kaypie3112 6 месяцев назад

      @@pkelly3463 Hello there. How are you?
      You were at the Moffett NAS show in 1985? Awesome.
      With regard to Kuss’s crash-
      He screwed up at least four things that day:
      -He added a complete 360 roll after takeoff as he climbed out.
      -He did not climb high enough, rolling inverted and pulling through at too
      Low an altitude- as you stated.
      -Crucially, he left the engines in afterburner too long as he pulled through.
      -He initiated ejection at too low an altitude- probably to insure that the
      Airplane went in where it ultimately did after he realized he wasn’t going
      to complete the maneuver successfully.
      The team took the split-s on takeoff out of the demonstration after Kuss’s accident deeming it “unsafe or too risky.” But what is interesting is that the solos still do an opposing split-S later on in the demonstration.
      They would have to explain that logic to me. A low altitude split-S is either risky- or it’s not. Which one is it?

  • @gregorymaupin6388
    @gregorymaupin6388 6 месяцев назад +1

    This is an amazing story, Scott Anderson came into the Blues around that time he had been my division officer in VA-37.

  • @barbh4148
    @barbh4148 3 месяца назад

    What An Lesson Learned.
    Great Interview
    Thank You Sir For Everything You Done For Our Country
    You Were Dedicated and Fearless, Eager To Learn and Get The Job Correct.
    You Are Truly Awesome Sir.

  • @onlyme112
    @onlyme112 6 месяцев назад +2

    Beyond fascinating. Thank you!

  • @simwirx
    @simwirx 6 месяцев назад +1

    So interesting to hear of the learning process... especially of the retread issue with the tires. Wow!

  • @AnierROCKS
    @AnierROCKS 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for your service ! 🙏💙⚓️✈️

  • @geraldalann
    @geraldalann 3 месяца назад +1

    ...I was El Centro Navy Base Photographer that rode with Base Security to the crash site and documented the landing (burning) site for the Navy...

  • @michael184272
    @michael184272 6 месяцев назад +1

    Extremely interesting..thanks for all your insight

  • @richardmckinnon8791
    @richardmckinnon8791 6 месяцев назад

    Loved your efforts I saw both loved the A4 show ❤🎉

  • @TXmotoRacer
    @TXmotoRacer 6 месяцев назад +2

    Great interview!

  • @frisk151
    @frisk151 6 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome interview!!! Gonna sub and watch much more! Thanks!

  • @ericwashburn2740
    @ericwashburn2740 2 месяца назад

    Had the pleasure to meet Mr. Anderson before he was a Blue Angel. I was at my stepbrother’s house. He, my stepbrother, was a A6 Intruder pilot with VA65. If I remember correctly, Mr. Anderson was a Flying Tiger also. I was only a E3 at the time with VF14. We were all stationed at NAS Oceana. In case you happen to see this Mr. Anderson, my stepbrother is Jim “Arnie” Palmer.

  • @bionicsjw
    @bionicsjw 6 месяцев назад +3

    I was the head Flight Attendant in 1993 with United when we had a left main gear tire blow on takeoff out of Denver. The was before DIA opened and at Stapleton. The tire got sucked into the left engine on 757-200. we lost the engine, the tires on that gear and hydraulics as we landed. We also lost the PA system and had to prep the cabin with a megaphone. Luckily everything went smoothly and we didn't have to evacuate. The point is a blown tire on takeoff is not fun. ps, The engine completely disintegrated from the tire.

  • @dmcooper382
    @dmcooper382 28 дней назад

    Incredible story. Very interesting history on an incredible team.

  • @rs2352
    @rs2352 6 месяцев назад +2

    Great insights!
    A follow-up would be very interesting, to help understand how the 'gap' was bridged between 'flight testing on the line' vs. 'back office flight testing'.
    On one hand, it sounds as if the envelope was exceeded while trying to determine true limitations, in the field.
    On the other hand, suspect it is more a matter of how the story is being related.

  • @MrCyp200la
    @MrCyp200la 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great interview.👍

  • @LeslieDevoe
    @LeslieDevoe 4 месяца назад

    My Father, Cdr. Harry Leslie Devoe USN&USNR flew F-9F Cougars and was one of the first Squadrons to transition to the A-4 Skyhawk (VA-106) Gladiators. In my childhood I got to see at Ceisel Field The Blue Angels fly F-11 Tigers, F-4 Phantoms, A-4 Skyhawks, NAS Willow Grove and many other places.
    In the spring of 1987 I was 3rd Mate on the Schooner Appledore II. I We had just docked in Ferindino, Florida. I read in the morning paper that the Blue Angels were going to do, please correct me if I'm wrong, the debut show of the F/A-18. At first I was somewhat resentful. I asked for a 12 leave and hitchhiked to NAS JAX. The show was undeliverable. You guys are as you well know are the BEST. Thank you. Sadly I was at the MCAS Beaufort in '05. I remember that the Naval Aviator, who sadly died during the show was from Wakefield, Mass. I was also at Buffalo NY, '85 for the high Arch collision. Your Sacrifice is not unnoted.

  • @sonnyburnett8725
    @sonnyburnett8725 6 месяцев назад +2

    That’s so great to have people like that having your back when things go wrong. I hope the Navy still has that type of management style. I don’t believe the airlines do anymore.

    • @Ryan-mq2mi
      @Ryan-mq2mi 6 месяцев назад +1

      It helps if you are a trans person of color

  • @gerryp9717
    @gerryp9717 6 месяцев назад

    Dave! Great to see you! Hoping all is well for you. Thanks for sharing your insight and experiences. BZ! Peebs

  • @johnwayne2103
    @johnwayne2103 6 месяцев назад +3

    What a great story.
    Key word "Leadership" and the support. Think we would get that now in today's military?

  • @daylyt100
    @daylyt100 День назад

    Outstanding account!

  • @blackhatfreak
    @blackhatfreak 5 месяцев назад +2

    Great leadership to let him continue since he was trying to do his job as a Blue Angel.

  • @tommynikon2283
    @tommynikon2283 6 месяцев назад

    GREAT stuff....from the Right Stuff; these men are walking/talking history....worth knowing.

  • @user-zf9yx1zy5d
    @user-zf9yx1zy5d 2 месяца назад

    Second movie I ever watched was Touch The Sky featuring The Blue Angels taking up Christopher Reeve, this was the Pilot he got to fly with in the number 7 A-4. The A-4 has been my favorite airplane since. Glad to see this gentleman went on to have the career he did. Blue Skies, Sir

  • @harrycojones4273
    @harrycojones4273 3 месяца назад

    The old A-4 was our ‘test hanger queen aircraft’ when I went through AMH ‘A’ School at NAS Memphis (Millington) back in 1977-1978

  • @Riverplacedad1
    @Riverplacedad1 6 месяцев назад +1

    Glad your doing well.. it’s been awhile since AOCS. I think it was 14-77... and yes that Georgia draw came in handy as an announcer

  • @odyshopody9387
    @odyshopody9387 2 месяца назад

    Remember going to their air show in Miramar in 1986, right after Top Gun came out. I think it was one of the last times they flew the A-4. I loved that little plane, it was so maneuverable. I understand the Navy wanting to fly their newest planes with the Blue's, but I don't think there was a better plane for aerobatics than that A-4!

  • @bradtevelde6025
    @bradtevelde6025 6 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome , i love hearing these stories. I had no idea there was issues like that with the Hornet.

  • @rex8255
    @rex8255 6 месяцев назад +4

    It always amazes me how pilots, private commercial or military, will work to not hit people on the ground when they know their potentially (or are) about to die.

  • @njh1453
    @njh1453 Месяц назад +1

    We need more men like David Anderson. It seems we're running out of them.

    • @sheridanfam2020
      @sheridanfam2020 Месяц назад

      Give me a break, the aviators after him were just as good and just as brave. I saw many brave men in Afghanistan and Iraq flying and in the infantry. Every generation brings brave good men and women to the fight. Trust me, we won't run out of good fighting Americans.

  • @billb7876
    @billb7876 3 месяца назад +1

    Really interesting lecture thanks

  • @R760-E2
    @R760-E2 6 месяцев назад +8

    I was a civilian airshow performer when the transition happened. In '87, they had to be bringing along several spare airplanes.
    I laud this man for doing the "let's see if we can do this in this airplane" flight test, even though he could have got his ass in a sling .
    There's nothing prettier than a Scooter, and those were the best shows.

  • @brianchisnell1548
    @brianchisnell1548 6 месяцев назад

    Used to camp at Superstitions every January for 2 weeks. The Angels were always there practicing overhead. We were 10 mi. from Seeley. The El Centro base. Free show every day!!!

  • @georgemartin7717
    @georgemartin7717 2 месяца назад

    What an awesome video! First time I've ever heard an OFFICER admitting he screwed up, even though the test pilots wouldn't thoroughly do their job so he had to do it for them. In my opinion, any new high performance plane should never be allowed to do this kind of precision flying until it's been fully tested and flight characteristics fully understood! I'm not a pilot but I love high performance cars. I don't go balls out,in a race, in a new model until I learn it's limitations through testing. Isn't that what testing programs are for anyways? I'm GLAD that he wasn't REPRIMANDED and no one was KILLED!

  • @craig7350
    @craig7350 6 месяцев назад

    Thats what makes these pilots great. Fun stories enjoyed that.

  • @rmp5s
    @rmp5s 6 месяцев назад

    Good ol' Brawley! Glad everything worked out for the best.

  • @user-oe5kz2cn9o
    @user-oe5kz2cn9o 6 месяцев назад +1

    USN 1970-76... loved the F-4, A-4 and very impressed with F-18...
    UA 777 Capt (ret)

  • @jackmcpeek4794
    @jackmcpeek4794 28 дней назад

    I'll never forget being at NAS Willow Grove in the 90s when they dirty roll on takeoff happened and the solo came real close to hitting the house on the other side of the highway... enough so that a lot of dust and dirt was kicked up over the house.

  • @mattm2469
    @mattm2469 4 месяца назад +1

    You aren't allowed to use retreads on the front tires of commercial vehicles, but they put them on the nose gear of a multimillion dollar plane...
    Great stories, loved the video. Brave man, and I wish he had the proper ejection seat so he could reach the ground safer.

  • @chrisridebike8
    @chrisridebike8 2 месяца назад

    Holy cow! How did the seat get you out with your huge canines weighing you down?! Self-made test pilot, loses both motors, points the jet away from populated areas, punches out, and then gets back in 2 days later. Not to mention the first dirty roll takeoff 3 weeks after and an engine blows up. I have 2,000 hours in the F-18, mostly super hornet time, and this is just crazy in the coolest way.

  • @britishamerican4321
    @britishamerican4321 6 месяцев назад

    A very brave man! Love the accent.

  • @BrokenWrenches
    @BrokenWrenches 6 месяцев назад +1

    that one tire coming apart single handedly wiped out all the money they tried to save on new tires when they had to order a new engine!!!😂

  • @Renato.Stiefenhofer.747driver
    @Renato.Stiefenhofer.747driver 3 месяца назад

    "Learning by doing" on a different level. Good story. Thank's for sharing. Regards from Europe.
    No Blue Angels Super Hornets over here, just stone aged Red Arrows Hawks, Patrouille de France Alphajets and Patrouille Suisse F/5's... Would love to fly the F/A 18 .. and you could fly my 747-8 ...

  • @Jeffrey-Flys
    @Jeffrey-Flys 6 месяцев назад

    I had the privilege of seeing you all when Gil brought the Blue Angels to Fargo…. Great stories from behind the scenes of the transition process between aircraft…

  • @daveculver4350
    @daveculver4350 6 месяцев назад

    One of the Best. Right here Folks.

  • @SolidMikeP
    @SolidMikeP 6 месяцев назад +2

    Amazing, I wonder..will there ever be an F-35 Blue Angels?

    • @aaroncarr5725
      @aaroncarr5725 4 месяца назад +2

      If the world lasts that long we should. The F-35 puts on a hell of a solo show. A full team would be badass to watch.

    • @jonarmedpiandsecurityoffic9051
      @jonarmedpiandsecurityoffic9051 3 месяца назад

      A long ass time, decades

  • @robertconville6269
    @robertconville6269 Месяц назад

    Semper Fi Sir!

  • @jkhsdjkhfjkhh3
    @jkhsdjkhfjkhh3 6 месяцев назад +3

    "Because I was inverted"

  • @raybates3119
    @raybates3119 6 месяцев назад

    I saw them the first time in the A-4s in about 1978 and have seen them many times in the F-18s. Awesome doesn't even begin to describe what those guys do. From support to maintenance to flyers, they are the best of the best in the World!

    • @fw1421
      @fw1421 6 месяцев назад +1

      First time I saw the Blue Angels was at Macdill AFB in Tampa,Fla when the Angels were flying the Grumman F-11 Tiger. Beautiful aircraft and they put on an amazing show which has only gotten better with time. To be honest,I think the Blue Angels put on a better show than the Thunderbirds,and I spent 6 years in the USAF.

  • @Oper1SCW
    @Oper1SCW 3 месяца назад

    I used to read Grampa Pettibone’s articles of aircraft safety and mishaps.

  • @skyvintage
    @skyvintage 7 дней назад

    Maybe , maybe, the natural transition would be from the phantom to the hornet because the sizes the two engines, the weight would make that change easier…. I mean , from a single engine, smaller that is the A-4 to a more heavy, large and twin engine as the hornet is that change I’m agree was harder to those pilots caught in the middle … marvelous interview .

  • @markb.1259
    @markb.1259 6 месяцев назад

    Admiral, we were in Pensacola at the same time back in 1986. I went through Naval Aircrewman Candidate School May/June of 1986. Really enjoyed your video! CMDCM (Ret.)

  • @chuckbolik7060
    @chuckbolik7060 2 месяца назад

    We lost an angel in El Centro when I was stationed there in the 70"s

  • @Tacticaldave1
    @Tacticaldave1 6 месяцев назад

    You guys are cool!

  • @bensmith7536
    @bensmith7536 6 месяцев назад

    I have to say, I dont think I've seen displays, albeit online only, that are to the level of the Blue Angels. The precision is just astounding.

  • @jonathanpowell9979
    @jonathanpowell9979 6 месяцев назад +7

    The test pilots can't do it because they aren't Angels and the Angels shouldn't do it because they aren't test pilots 😂

  • @nervechews6781
    @nervechews6781 6 месяцев назад

    That was a really cool talk. Thanks.

  • @user-id1di8ve5i
    @user-id1di8ve5i 3 месяца назад

    You and Gill, brother

  • @flddoc2
    @flddoc2 6 месяцев назад +1

    The first Blue Angels show I had ever seen was in the mid 70s at Selfridge Air National Guard base in Michigan. They flew the A4 Skyhawks and for a troubled 12 year old boy stuck in the foster care system in Detroit with no hope it was one of those things that made me want to be a better kid. And I did. Magical.

    • @brandonhebert5485
      @brandonhebert5485 6 месяцев назад +1

      Amen. No limit to what the sound of a jet engine roaring past you at 500 mph can make a person do.

    • @flddoc2
      @flddoc2 6 месяцев назад

      @@brandonhebert5485 haha. Agreed. Have you ever seen NHRA drag racing? I didn’t until 1998. To me, things were fairly unimpressive until……the top fuel funny cars. I still can’t fathom the power harnessed and distributed through the vehicle to the road surface. I grew up in the Detroit area. I moved to the south in 1984 when I joined the Army and received one of the most important lessons in my life. Actually two lessons. Growing up in the northern education system we were all convinced the stereotypical “southerner” was fact. The first lesson was learned within a year that any northerner who thinks that is full of sh!t and more ignorant than any “good ol’ boy”, “the south is gonna do it again” reputation taught to me. That NHRA event proved Bubba as well as anyone who runs a large farm are geniuses. The second lesson was “bless your heart” is not a compliment. Haha.

  • @KPMACHINE1
    @KPMACHINE1 6 месяцев назад

    As a Cessna 172 owner and a huge aviation fan I appreciate these stories. I just wish I was younger to where I needed inverted fuel pumps on my plane! Lol

  • @marbleman52
    @marbleman52 6 месяцев назад +2

    The first time I saw the Blue Angels in person was in the early 70's when they were still using the F-4's. I was also in a Navy squadron that had two F-4's and we also had four A-4's. But the F-4's with their monster afterburners and thundering sounds could not be replaced in my mind with those little sub-sonic, non afterburner A-4's. I called the A-4 the mosquito because that it what they reminded me of...lol..!!

  • @TheBlkpilot
    @TheBlkpilot 6 месяцев назад +2

    I would think that all fighters would have inverted fuel pumps! How would you be able to dogfight if you can’t go inverted, pull negative g’s and do other fighter types maneuvers?

  • @thejohnbeck
    @thejohnbeck 2 месяца назад

    was the transition to F18s from A4s a contributing factor to that one pilot who crashed an at El Toro air show?

  • @in4merATP
    @in4merATP 6 месяцев назад +1

    mind blown we would consider fielding ANY aircraft in combat without inverted fuel pumps

  • @JSFGuy
    @JSFGuy 6 месяцев назад

    Got a notice on this one FWIW.

  • @mpojr
    @mpojr 3 месяца назад

    Dave l was in aviation for 34 years l never cut corners when you stated that they used retread tires on the nose gear that just blew me away
    that engine cost a helluve alot more than a retread tire,cant believe they would do that knowing dam well those intakes set low on that aircraft and could happen again
    jeopardizing the pilot and possible mission just to save a few bucks.

  • @rwsmith7638
    @rwsmith7638 4 месяца назад +1

    I know were he's coming from. I was a troubleshooter who's main job was solving problems and negative outcomes were likely. But I wasn't flying a mulit-million dollar plane at low altitude that could kill me.

  • @Phildo8
    @Phildo8 3 месяца назад

    It just blows my mind that when I went to see the Angels fly in ‘04 the Hornets the Angels flew then were the oldest in the fleet….. think about that. It blew my mind when the Boss told me that & the fact they didn’t preflight the jet either. They laid complete trust in their crew chiefs that the jet was setup & ready to rock a full show each and every day. I’m sure it’s still the same if not faster but he said he was sitting down, strapped in, they were taxing in 4mins total. I’ve always been stuck on the fact that even in 2004 the Navy couldn’t throw out some more millions and get the most exciting air show crew some shiny new jets instead of hand me downs from the fleet!?

  • @andrewtestin9080
    @andrewtestin9080 3 месяца назад

    The Courage

  • @buckbuchanan5849
    @buckbuchanan5849 6 месяцев назад

    In combat, would the all F-18's also get a "light" while performing inverted/negative G maneuvers? Or was it something specific to the jets the Blue's received? I tell ya, if it was ALL Hornets being delivered fleet wide, that is a huge no no. Thought we had fixed that issue in WWII !!

    • @watsisbuttndo829
      @watsisbuttndo829 4 месяца назад

      The F/18 inverted flight baffling is basically a box around the pumps in the bottom of tanks 2 and 3 that have one way flapper valves in them. The valves hang open in normal flight allowing fuel into the box but will simply hinge closed if the aircraft goes inverted and trap the fuel inside the box. Its a completely stand alone mechanical system. Extremely reliable but the boxes are not very big. Flying displays were obviously not in the design brief!

  • @hughwoatmeigh6999
    @hughwoatmeigh6999 2 месяца назад

    Sounds like they improved the airframe through a bit of destructive testing.

  • @JoeRantCT
    @JoeRantCT 6 месяцев назад +1

    He should have gotten double pay for not only being a Blue Angels pilot, but also for being the manufacturer's test pilot. I can't believe the manufacturer leaves it up to its customers to test all areas of the flight envelope rather than doing it themselves way early in aircraft development so they could work on the deficiencies during aircraft develpment.

    • @stijnvandamme76
      @stijnvandamme76 4 месяца назад

      The manufacturer never designed it for Air shows, its a fighter jet, its not supposed to fly inverted in regular military service.
      There are so many things that just don't work while inverted.. fuel pump is just the start of it.
      Not talking about a 1 barrel roll here, but real inverted -1G for any prolonged duration is just not a normal flight envelope during military service
      There is no military purpose to hanging upside down for -1G steady flight.
      Also most pilots hate negative G , its no fun hanging in the straps with blood rushing to your head. Headache material.
      All the stuff they do is uncharted territory because it has nothing to do with what the jet was designed for.
      the Manufacturers are keen to help figure it out, because Blue Angels = Great PR for their product.. But its not a design spec they are supposed to test for. Its not a deficiency during aircraft development. The problems mentioned have NO real world application on the carrier.. Else every fleet Hornet would have such inverted fuel pump.. (they don't have it in the fleet)

  • @47mphill
    @47mphill 3 месяца назад +1

    BZ Dave !!

  • @flutetubamorg
    @flutetubamorg 6 месяцев назад

    My Dad (Lcdr Robert E. Morgan "Crash") was stationed in El Sweato in the early 70s, retired from there in 74ish. I was just a kid then, but I do remember seeing Blue Angels training there. My pops was a pilot, but not part of the Blue Angels. Not exactly sure what his job in El Centro was, though. Possibly refueling ops? Another connection...sort of: My father in law (Roger "Spook" McFillen) was a RIO on the first F-14 ejection that wasn't for testing purposes.

  • @JeremyCoppin
    @JeremyCoppin 2 месяца назад

    He said it in too nice a way, but essentially he discovered a fatal flaw in the F/A18, 2 if you count the rubbish parachute, that had the potential to cause an airshow disaster and was at best let off with a warning.Sometimes the military is a bit dense.

  • @semperfidelis8386
    @semperfidelis8386 6 месяцев назад

    I love it....."I was playing with it...trying to see what it would do"...just messin' around with hotrod military aircraft. WOW
    The F18 didn't have inverted fuel pumps out of the box?!?! WTF

  • @kriscotant2213
    @kriscotant2213 6 месяцев назад +2

    Love the stories. But needs one correction. The F18 was not more powerful than the F14.

    • @danielh1708
      @danielh1708 6 месяцев назад

      Where was that ever stated?

    • @ASchallau
      @ASchallau 6 месяцев назад

      @@danielh1708It’s literally said at the 8 second mark in the video.

    • @danielh1708
      @danielh1708 6 месяцев назад

      @@ASchallau He never said it was more powerful than the F-14. It WAS the most powerful aircraft they could transition too. The Tomcat was NEVER an option. He's clearly referring to an aircraft available to transition too. Nothing more. No correction needed.

    • @danielh1708
      @danielh1708 6 месяцев назад

      @@ASchallau BTW...the -18a they would transition to had a higher thrust to weight ratio than the -14a.

    • @ASchallau
      @ASchallau 6 месяцев назад

      @@danielh1708 I never said that a correction was needed. I was pointing out that he did indeed make the claim that the F/A-18A was more powerful than the F-14A. His exact words are: “Obviously, we’re going from a, from a a very old uhm aircraft to the most powerful, capable airplane in the fleet at the time, the F-18.”
      I think he is saying that from a thrust-to-weight perspective, the F/A-18A is more powerful than the F-14A. So, I agree with you in that regard that no correction is needed.

  • @nynomadfjc3907
    @nynomadfjc3907 2 месяца назад

    Got to know what the plane can do in combat in a "controled" environment.~USAF Vet

  • @ferociousfrankie
    @ferociousfrankie 6 месяцев назад

    Crazy stories

  • @f4tweet
    @f4tweet 6 месяцев назад

    Just like the Spitfire, no inverted fuel pump.

  • @OriginalThisAndThat
    @OriginalThisAndThat 5 месяцев назад

    So the inverted fuelpumps are the thing..

  • @MisterIvyMike
    @MisterIvyMike 6 месяцев назад +1

    No inverted fuel pumps in a plane that is supposed to do aerobatics? Ok, that make sense... 🤦🏿‍♂️

  • @Mary-bs3rq
    @Mary-bs3rq 6 месяцев назад +1

    Even though you were not a test pilot, your risk probably saved lives.......because the sad truth about flight manuals is they're written in blood!

  • @suserman7775
    @suserman7775 6 месяцев назад

    "We tried a no flaps takeoff at 180 because we knew the landing gear could take it."
    Well that wasn't exactly true was it? After all, TIRES are part of the landing gear.