What’s next at WR for Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills following Stefon Diggs trade to Texans?
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- Опубликовано: 3 апр 2024
- There was plenty of momentum for the Buffalo Bills to invest an early 2024 NFL Draft selection and that intensified following the trade of Stefon Diggs to the Houston Texans. Could Buffalo trade up? Should they be patient and take advantage of the depth of the class? On today's episode, Host Joe Marino is joined by Brett Whitefield of Fantasy Points to discuss those options. The show is focused on the Buffalo Bills, Stefon Diggs, Sean McDermott, Joe Brady, Houston Texans, Adam Henry, Khalil Shakir, Dalton Kincaid, Dawson Knox, Curtis Samuel, Josh Allen, NFL Draft, Trade, 2024 NFL Draft, Malik Nabers, Rome Odunze, Marvin Harrison Jr., Xavier Leggette, Brian Thomas Jr., Roman Wilson, Keon Coleman, Xavier Worthy, Ladd McConkey, Ricky Pearsall, Troy Franklin, Devontez Walker, Adonai Mitchell and more!
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Curtis Samual is about to have a career year.
Samuel is not a #1 he is a #2 just like Shakir we now have no #1
@@user-wm5wi8fg9sYou have no idea if either of those guys can be a #1. Theu've never had the opportunity. Diggs wasnt one until he got to Buffalo. Same with Poyer and Hyde at there respective positions.
@@jakethethird1584 Samuel is not a #1 watch film he's been in the league long enough you don't become a #1 after 5-6 years . Shakir wasn't drafted to be a #1 he is a slot guy.
If the Bills sceme for Samuel, I suspect he gains 1000+ yards and 5+ TDs.
@@user-wm5wi8fg9she has never had a top QB. Watch him with Josh.
1 2nd rounder was fair comp
2. Glad he’s gone with all the drama
3 We have some good receivers. Let’s see what they can do
I could not be happier with the trade. I don’t want anyone on our team that doesn’t want to be there. Period
I don't mind trading Diggs but iam not happy with what we got for him
@@lukemorrison9248 you wouldn’t have gotten anything after this year. We can leverage that 2nd round pick to move up if we need to. All in all it’s solid value for a disgruntled aging soon to be 31 yr old wr
You should not be happy with this we got nothing back for him in the draft this year.
@@user-wm5wi8fg9s first off we would have gotten NOTHING for him period if we didn’t trade him now. 2nd round is great value when you compare it to other recent transactions. Second he would have been a cancer to this team all season and third he is a disgruntled soon to be 31 yr old wr whose productivity has clearly declined. So yes I’m happy to see him go
@@00laramie and your an idiot . When he does great you give him no credit and he has couple bad playoff games and he sucks in your view. Stupid we need players now and getting nobody for this year's draft is stupid and not smart was my point . 🤡
Oh Bills therapy by Joe Marino save me. Thanks always for the insight, odd but exciting time to be a Bills game. All in Allen time baby!
Hey Joe, heard Ladd McConkey was at One Bills Drive multiple times. Do teams get 30 visits total, with prospective draftees, or unlimited visits with up to 30 players?
You're a legend Joe, greatest NFL podcaster out there. Discussion, guests and depth of content is off the charts every time. Fan for life right here
Good Morning Joe thank you for yesterday’s podcast because you were the only one that expressed common sense. I have a question to me the Bills should stay put in this years draft or trade back a little to get a third round pick? I feel Samuel Zahir Kincaid abd 2 draft picks and whoever will be fine
@Locked On Bills I like this video a lot!! Doing your comparison with Whitefield’s analysis.
Brett knows his stuff!
Awesome guest. Learned alot.
I don't think that we should get a true target hog. Maybe someone capable of being a target hog, but not someone who is going to get the ball every single time. That is because we have some amazing weapons what can be used in an incredibly versatile way. The Bills were at their best last year when everyone was lined up, because it was impossible for an opposing defense to cover everyone. If we are loosing two relatively unproductive recievers, and keeping the players responsible for the most action for years to come, I think that we have every reason to be optimistic. Get a number one guy, someone with great talent, and draft a first round receiver, but we need to keep that versatility that this offense had last year under Brady. Joe Brady's creativity was what won against great defenses, while relying on Diggs being elite only won against bad teams (and lost against plenty of bad teams too). Remember, both Kincaid and Shakir have carried the team in receptions before, and Cook has also won us games. As long as Curtis Samuel proves to be better at actually catching the ball than Gabe Davis, and we draft a solid WR, we should be able to have that dynamic offense capable of beating teams in any number of different ways. I want to have an offense that can have some games where it finds one thing that works and just do the same thing over and over and win that way, and other games where we do not do the same thing twice and confuse the hell out of opposing defenses. If we can do that, we can win the Super Bowl!
awesome guest....Thanks
Thanks for the free draft guide!!!!!!!
My favorite part of having a guest on is watching them sit through the ad reads
Anyone who sees the true value in pearsall and burton, is someone i can trust to have good football knowledge.
What an awesome episode!
Brett Whitefield is impressive. Gotta follow him. Thanks for bringing him on the show! I’ve been talking up Luke McCaffrey too. He’s going to work his butt off to succeed. It’s truly his DNA and he’s got the traits. Draft him or regret not drafting him. Kinda like letting TJ Watt slip to the lower part of round 1 when you just knew he was wired to be great. We passed on JJ Watt for Marcell Darius too. Some guys will do what’s necessary to be great. They’re also natural leaders. We had the Texans beat before JJ rallied them. If you have the opportunity, you get them. There’s going to be an opportunity and the bills need to find a way to get Luke. Brenden Rice will become a quality NFL WR too - and yet teams will continue to sleep on him.
Great podcast. Thanks!
I feel Beane figured they could pull off the bandaid and still be competitive this year with Shakir and Samuel. But next year Buffalo has 3 picks in the first 60 that is draft capital.
Fantastic guest. Great to hear from an expert outsider. Really enjoyed the information.
Great video. Thanks for preparing us for the draft and the season. Also, thanks for helping us manage our emotions as we navigate the offseason moves.
Greeeat Podcast Joe. Brett had some great perspectives.
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@LockedOnBills It really was an outstanding segment. PS I have liked Jermaine Burton as a prospect since the fall and really since January. Him slapping a fan (female) as the stands emptied out on the field might be a tough thing for teams to overlook, but that guy can run.
Excellent episode. Glad to hear the views of someone who's watched in detail & not just parroting the mainstream media that none have their own honest assessments which leads to fans skewed perception of players like Malik Willis.
For your information Anecdotally, many great receivers of the past decade were drafted in the second round, including A.J. Brown, D.K. Metcalf, Deebo Samuel, Michael Thomas and Davante Adams. And other stellar wideouts were taken even later, including Cooper Kupp, Stefon Diggs, Terry McLaurin, Chris Godwin and Keenan Allen.
Liked Brett's opinion on wide receivers , hopefully Bean and scouts will listen to this podcast, very informative, even though they probably know who they're going to pick already. Thanks Joe for bringing Brett on .
So happy someone said something about Burton. I don't watch college football and literally have only watched highlights of all of them, but I've been so confused about why Burton wasn't talked about much. Off the field stuff makes it make sense now. Dude looks like a beast tho and definitely a dog.
Bills are gonna be better. I love the undersell by Beane. He’s a genius. Allen, Cook, Kincaid, Shakir, Knox, Morris, Ty Johnson, Justin shorter, Gilliam, Samuel . . . Cmon man. Hoping for a full recovery from Milano (best LB in the NFL). Taron coming back. Our team is stacked even before the draft.
You can’t be serious
Dude, be a realist man. This is all rebuilding again. Ain’t no way they’re gonna be better. It’s possible they don’t even make the playoffs. The defense is totally dismantled and a lot of other things has changed. It’s rebuilding all day with a bunch of rookies from the draft.
@@justmythoughts2786 The defense lost 3 starters, all over 30 years old. How does that equate to being “totally dismantled.”?
Diggs served a purpose but fell short of taking us to the promised land. His shelf life was over and was about to go real bad in the refrigerator.
Noooo joe you messed up your every day’ers script 😆😭
Youth movement in full affect! Let's see what this staff and the upcoming personnel are made of. Go Bills! Great show guys
Got draft between Adonai Mitchell and Troy Franklin im add Keon Coleman to. Thinking still should add a tight end a hybrid tight end Devin Culp or Trey Knox could be nice addition
I'll tell ya what's next...a receiver that catches a deep ball put right in his hands in a conference championship. That was the last straw...
Burton is a DAWG. Great prospect.
Khalil about to blow up!
Diggs was clutch at certain times..... but at the end of last season was not really a factor this is the perfect time to develop a new number 1 .... they have Kincaid ,Shakir, Samuels,draft a number one receiver prospect or 2 .... perfect timing...bills still competitive
He wasn’t clutch during the playoffs and that’s where it mattered the most
@@MrGhostface85and the 90 percent of games where he was good doesn't matter ? What a stupid theory
@@user-wm5wi8fg9sdid you watch the podcast? Diggs has been declining since mid 2022, it's on the game film.
I think everyone forgets that before Diggs was traded… we were targeting a 1 or 2 round pick like Thomas Jr. Now we need to get a stud WR1 AS WELL AS a WR2… someone like Ladd McConkey.
I'd take Leggette for sure...Beane still needs to use some draft capital to pick up 3rd. I'd even use the Diggs 2nd rounder to try to secure another 2nd this year.
Yes you get another Second rounder trade up and Get Sweat....!
I disagree with a couple of your wr evaluations a little bit, but roman Wilson is legit!
They can quit walking on glass now that the problem is gone.
Agreed!
Yeah, now when we lose because the defense chokes it will be quieter!
No one wants to touch this reality, but rolling into the season with a rookie as your #1 is FAR from being a good look. And there’s no way we’re snagging any credible veteran WR that comes close to filling that role. Joe Brady better be VERY VERY creative in getting Kincaid involved.
You clearly dont get it, Diggs never did a good thing here and was holding this team back! Finally with him gone, hopefully we can get back closer to the team we were before Diggs came and ruined the trajectory of Allen's career!
Not only was Diggs performance decline making him not worth his paycheck, maybe we could have been ok with a slight under performance, but magnifying that even more is all the dead money that had been pushed forward into the future due to the challenges the Bills have had with the cap. A contributing factor is “getting creative” with restructuring contracts to free up cap space. It causes his value fall that much shorter of the weight of him being on the roster.
@@user-bd5nd6ne3c I don’t even know where to start with this reply. My first thought is you replied to the wrong comment, because it doesn’t really have much to do with what I said. Second, what an emotional response. Relax. It’s the offseason. There’s more work to be done. The draft is the deepest WR class I’ve ever seen. We’ll get one or two of them and be fine. Josh Allen in decline? No, Josh Allen is elite and that’s all that matters. He should have been the MVP last year. His numbers were way better than Lamar’s.
Trade away this year and next year first move up and get a top 3 wr n draft another one with the second pick
Yeap
What are you giving up to do this? Because our first this year and next year is NOT getting you in the top 10
Thanks Joe. Not a very glowing outlook for us at WR… I’m good with Diggs leaving but now we NEED WR additions!
We added Samuel and Hollins
We are improving. Gotta clear the dead wood.
Anyone know if we had to pay Diggs salary for 2024 ? I know we took a cap hit of 31 mill
Texans are paying his salary. The cap hit is all the guaranteed money he was still owed on his contract…. I think. I could be wrong though.
Is it me, or was the intro different?
I listen to this too much 😂😂
Diggs leaving is great news.
🚨Justin shorter is goin to make a name this year🚨
He won't play a snap unless there's injury .
He’s gone that’s the best news ever.
And after week 3 you will be wishing he was still here
@@user-wm5wi8fg9s the last two years we haven’t accomplished a lot with him at all.
Man, after hearing this podcast. Sounds like there will be 5 or 6 legit wr’s that the bills could take between their 1st pick and 2nd that would be a good fit.
Maybe we go Edge or DT in the 1st and trade up in the 2nd. A few of these guys will be gone but should be able to get 1 for sure
Adonai .Mitchell ❤ aka Randy Moss lite
In a cross sport comp I think AD Mitchell plays WR to kinda how SGA plays basketball with similar body types & the ability to use speed changes & deceptive moves to open up the route / shot respectively.
If a team brings in a player that doesn't fit in with their culture, it's the team's fault. Players are responsible for their own bad attitudes.
Sounds like the fish are plentiful, I say we wait hope something falls to us... draft is such a crap shoot... 😂
The truth is that WE DO NOT NEED TO KNOW WHY. How would fans knowing the real reason that Diggs left change anything? Would it make more cap space? Would it fix the team issues? No, all it would do is temporarily satisfy the drama babies until they need their next feeding.
Beane better draft one hell of a wideout
Right now, people are saying "The Patriots and Tom Brady won for years without a great wide receiver". Well, let me remind everyone that the Bills do not have Tom Brady.
He had Gronk. Brady didn't do as well second year in Tampa without Gronk. The NFL is different now. Not much use for pocket passers. Give me Josh any day.
You are a "Homer", and there is nothing wrong with that. There are plenty of pocket passers in the NFL. I will take a proven winner, and a hall of fame quarterback over Allen any day of the week.@@deborahholleron7408
People are funny...Allen didnt ascend until after Diggs got there for one, for two he had nobody on the opposite side to take doubles off him then add to the fact we were one dimensional until Brady took over. Did he blow up on the sideline yes but thats part of being a competitor knowing your better then the play on the field. Yes id be pissed too!! We got nothing in return that will help us this year
We gotta stop acting like they both didn't benefit from each other. Diggs had no pro bowls or all pros before josh allen. So it not one-sided
@@dorothyhunter4656 sooooo very true. I just hate that people make it seen like Diggs was a nobody and that we are a much better team without him. Beane even said it, we're not...well at least not today. I need September to come sooner then later lol
@@michaelmcclendon3220 it just hurts as a fan because those 2 were magical together
@@dorothyhunter4656 that's exactly what it is...hurt smh
@michaelmcclendon3220 it had to be something bad because I don't know either of them, but u mean this couldn't of been worked out l thinking all the handshakes they did on the sidelines. And magazine cover for sports illustrated 💔😭
Please buffalo brass please do not over reach for a wide reciever,there may be good value in the 2nd round or trade for a proven player on another team,Stefan Diggs no longer wanted to play for buffalo it was a good decision I believe,we need an impact player to be #1 reciever,where we get that player is a mystery.
The trade proposal is a bargaining syarting point, uou sweeten it with anorher Second Rd. Pick from 2025. Two seconds and rhus years switch 1st rounder to a team that wants a receiver in a deep class. Get Rome Beanne!
How can you blame Joe Brady he took over after 10 games. So diggs was declining 5 games before the change.
What are you smoking?
Through the first 10 games Diggs had 73 catches for over 800 yards and 7 TD’s.
He was on pace for the best season of his career.
@@mazzvidz look at when the majority happened. Thru game 5
Thru week 6 he was on historic pace.. I guess it was 1 more week. But 7-17( 11games) he had 58 catches on 94 targets and 563yds. Thats trash from a production standpoint and worse from efficiency for your #1 guy. He decline hard.
@@dertyjerzy6644
Again this is false.
He had 10 catches for 100 yards in week 7 bs the Giants.
6 for 58 against the patriots in week 8
9 for 70 in week 9 against TB
6 for 86 in week 10 against the Bengals
After Brady took over he had
4 for 27 vs the Jets
4 for 24 vs KC
4 for 48 vs the Cowboys
5 for 29 vs the chargers
4 for 26 vs the patriots
@@mazzvidz the giants was week 6 so I'm not gonna even bother reading anymore of your comment....
Buffalo back in the rebuilding phase championship window closed
If the Bills were the Pats 5 years ago all the talk would be "there go those wily Pats letting guys go a year before the League catches up, Belichick is a genius blah blah blah"
Was sick and tired of watching how defenses totally limited stefon diggs
Why couldn't thos franchise ever figure that out
And that s where the problem began
It sounds like never was 😂
Temper expectations for 2024 Mafia. The Diggs subtraction is one of many the Bills needed to make to set up Josh allen for future success when the new stadium is open. Paying Diggs to leave was a necessary business decision for Terry to optimize revenues in the new stadium. Reading the tea leave, the moves Beane has made to get younger and cheaper is about 2025 and beyond. Accepting the 2nd rounder in 2025 is aligned with this approach. Thus, 2024 is a transition year. The Bills will stay patient, take the BPA in positions of need in this year's draft. It would be silly to trade up. In fact, I would not be surprised at all if the Bills traded back. The Bills are playing the long game. All moves made this off season suggest this.
Xavier isn’t smart enough to be a number 1 Joe.
huh?
Burton I believe from what I saw… punched a woman in the face while on the field after a game
You can call me narrow minded and maybe i am but i view it as this. Bills give up a first round pick diggs 31 mil in dead cap a 5 and a 6 . Bills recieve a 2nd rounder. Point blank period. Bad business. Im all in on the legette train.
Diggs is a depreciating asset.
That’s like saying you bought a car for $30k, drove it for 4 years and sold it for $13k, despite it starting to give you some mechanical issues.
This is a terrible attempt at an analogy. They got 4 very productive years out of that pick and the 31 million was already paid.
What do you know? Casual.
@@MrGhostface85that's dumb this is a horrible trade. You don't trade a talent guy like diggs and get nothing back for him this year. Who cares about the 2025 draft it's 2024
@@user-wm5wi8fg9s look at that other similar or younger WRs traded are getting. It's not dumb at all and by far the most comp anyone has gotten this year. I'd much rather have a top 40 pick next year than a 4th or something this year. He is a declining player getting paid top 5 money. Most teams aren't equipped to take that kind of salary on and even more are able to do so for a malcontent that still thinks he deserves 160 targets a year. This is by far the best you can do in that scenario.
Is this your real job ?
Why is this guy interviewing for a job when we are supposed to be talking football ?
Move up for Rome wirh this years rd .one switch and next years new second round Diggs trade pick whichever is next years higher pick in RD.2.
Chokers*
Gfy*
Are the Bills dumping the playoff chockers?
Chokerz*
Not all of them. McDermott is still coaching
@@awill3454and McDermott is not the issue. It's not the Bills birth right to be in the Superbowl .
@user-wm5wi8fg9s What are you talking about, McDermott is the elephant in the room. Why are his “elite” defenses giving up on average 33.5 points in the past 4 playoff losses? Why can Cincy and Baltimore hold Mahomes to less than 25 points regularly but the Bills are lucky if they hold them under 30? Mahomes and Burrow almost score at will against this defense in the playoffs
@@awill3454 the bills had nothing left vs Cincinnati. The whole damar Hamlin situation the emotionally were done. Plus had injuries. McDermott isn't the issue. The bills biggest problem is Patrick Mahomes is in his prime in KC .
Fire this GM and coach we should’ve taken Frank
Frank who ? Frank Reich ? Ummm no . McDermott is the best coach we've ever had besides levy and Beane has done a nice job
Frank the tank?
@@jasonlehman8407 love frank reich 35 year fan here you suck
I don’t care what anyone says not getting a 2nd rounder this year is a fail. You’re telling me there would be no deal if we said no? F that we paid the salary and gave them picks
Kennan Allen went for a 4th. Amari Cooper went for a 5th. This was a decent deal. You can only take what the market gives. This 2nd rounder will likely be a top 40 pick if the Vikings play a rookie QB
Luckily you don't understand what the f*ck you're talking about. 😂
@@awill3454not getting a pick in this year's draft for him is a fail. When the bills need two receivers still they better hit.big on a draft pick this year because next year's class is not as good as wr .
They are at a fine position to draft a really good WR at #28, or could trade up with this 2025 #2 if they wanted. They could use the extra #2 next year on a DL, OL, Safety, or whatever they need. They couple use the #2 pick to get more picks this draft. There so much flexibility now with this 2025 2nd round pick.
I agree that not getting a second round in 2024 is a fail,regarding steffon diggs trade,so....now what can we do to improve this team?
Sal capocio said diggs wasnt a locker room cancer...yes he was...just like he was with the Vikings and we were warned. Good riddance to him
The trade proposal is a bargaining syarting point, uou sweeten it with anorher Second Rd. Pick from 2025. Two seconds and rhus years switch 1st rounder to a team that wants a receiver in a deep class. Get Rome Beanne!