"We Are in Cold War II" | Niall Ferguson
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- In this clip Niall argues we are in Cold War II.
Niall Ferguson, MA, D.Phil., is the Milbank Family Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, and a senior fellow of the Centre for European Studies, Harvard, where he served for twelve years as the Laurence A. Tisch Professor of History.
He is the author of fifteen books, most recently The Square and the Tower. His previous book, Kissinger, 1923-1968: The Idealist, won the Council on Foreign Relations Arthur Ross Prize. He is also an award-winning filmmaker, having won an international Emmy for his PBS series The Ascent of Money.
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"The free world against the unfree world." It is just mindboggling that the free world is full of people who are in support of the unfree world.
It is also mindboggling how the leader of the free world has the highest prison population. It is also mindboggling how the "free" world will not allow other cultures the freedom to govern themselves in other ways. Because God forbid, if countries do not adapt democracy, then there is no way for elites to influence their politics through "campaign donations".
what makes you think the Whites live in the “free world” ? and everyone else is “unfree”?
You should watch the documentary "War Made Easy", which categorizes the means that the U.S. government and media continuously lie the Americans into war. They always make ridiculous claims like this. 157 countries have signed up to China's BRI; the only countries not actively working with China to develop the world are western countries and their allies. Does that sound like an easy "unfree" vs "free" world?
You should ask yourself what's the free world?usa and Europe definitely not free don't fool yourself only free thing is in the west is if your a lgbtq+++..that's it nothing else even your opinion ain't free..your elites trick you into believing that..
you people are more brainwashed than north koreans if you think the usa, is the "Free world"
Everything gets a sequel nowadays.
The sequels aren't as good as the originals.
@@megaluke007 Too predictable. Lacks originality. 2/5 stars.
@@wamingo Still leaves questions unanswered.
It's so easy for old farts to interpret new data based on antiquated models.
Funny
Yep. People need to wake up
The first Cold War never entirely ended though it looked that way in Germany.
In reality the NATO-Russia border just shifted eastwards with most of the Warsaw Pact switching sides.
The first Cold War never ended in the Korean Peninsula, the strait of Taiwan or the straits of Florida.
The ongoing tensions between Vietnam and China are also a lasting remnant of the Sino-Soviet split.
India and China are in a similar situation.
Lets be honest here, the Korean War is truly over (technicalities aside). Kim Jung-Un was more than willing to stop preparing for war if the U.S. and South Korea stopped preparing for military invasions. They both agreed to this for a while, but when the U.S. insisted on restarting the drills, North Korea started preparing for war again too.
The tensions ended in the Straits of Taiwan with: 1) the U.S. recognizing the One-Child Principle in 1979, and 2) with Taiwan and mainland China recognizing the One-China Principle in 1992. Both the U.S. and Taiwan governments have since decided to abandon this.
There are practically no tensions between Vietnam and China. China is Vietnam's largest trading partner and there are no military tensions...in fact, there can't be. Vietnam's military is no match for China's.
India and China's tensions have nothing to do with the Cold War. It only has to do with the fact that China has repeatedly attempted to negotiate their border with India and India has continuously refused. With a vague border, there are clashes.
@@jasonjean2901
The Korean War has not ended, nor is it currently a “hot” war. That’s why we call it a “Cold War”. Look at the vast amount of men and resources the US, ROK and Japan continue to invest in deterring and countering North Korea. Their nuclear ambitions, activities in space and increasingly warm relationship with Russia only heighten this.
Relations across the strait have also become increasingly aggressive and Chinese ambitions are well known.
Vietnam is a major trading partner of China but look at the recent military ties between Vietnam and Japan and very likely between the US and Vietnam.
India’s frequent clashes with Chinese forces in the Himalayas as well as China’s pursuit of encircling India via Pakistan and Sri Lanka are considerable. India’s relationship with the “Quad” is also interesting.
No, these are not “hot wars” they are remnants of the Cold War that have continued into the modern world.
@@TheMonkeyking555 well considering indias assassinations and attitude towards the usa and the anglo world, I don't think india is doing what china did in the sino soviet split, also china still supported vietnam even after they split from the soviet union, like india still supports russia even if they don't like china,
also yes india is in quad, but for some weird reason, they also are in the shianghai security cooperation agreement with china, which is weird because unlike brics its literally a military organization.
also its weird that france and germany and canada all voted for a ceasefire in favor of palestine despite their news media supporting israel which is weird, I don't think this will go the same way as cold war
It's fascinating to compare Niall Ferguson's take on the Ukraine War to John Mearsheimer or Jeffrey Sachs. Whereas Niall laments the U.S. not doing enough to militarily conquer the world, Mearsheimer and Sachs lament the complete loss of U.S. diplomatic acumen.
It is sad to see a historian turning to be an imperialist
Very cold. Aggressive powers. Disgusting. A fallen world.
At the end of the age for sure.
It has never been different and soon we‘ll all going to be forgotten
Brilliant analysis Mr Ferguson, Sir.
Thank you for educating me.
History has demonstrated that China would not fire the first shot in anger..
It would be a shot in defence. This distinction need be made.
History has also shown that China pushes the boundaries of "defence" further and further as they get more emboldened.
We are in a Hegemonic War, not Cold War II. Forget about the Cold War; that was right after a war for the international order. Now we are right at the beginning of a war for the international order.
Ferguson didn't have a long enough spoon when he sipped from the Rothchilds cup
Im sure given time Niall would have gone on to explain why Russia launched the SMO and why China feels Taiwan is part of China. Maybe not, maybe we are just meant to accept that this stuff just happens eh?
-As the time goes, People start to grow...
-There are things you can't just ignore or change.
As usual, 'Niall' has 'Nailed 'it!
Lets put the blame where it firmly belongs , America and their arrogance that the whole world must follow in their footsteps .
It was an Australian war reporter and author John Pilger who said that the USA has been responsible for some 40 conflicts that has occurred since WW2.
So intent upon how others vote and govern their countries , ignoring the cesspit that America has become . Over 100.000 people died from drug overdosing last year . Crime rampant , stores shutting because of pilfering on a huge scale . Crazy minority groups , BLM and Antifa . Whilst the average American suffers financially , the industrial moguls make more and more billions.
A friend once said to me about Africans , you cant expect peoples who have lived in their entire history in a less civilized culture , to behave like us , who have been brought up to behave in a way that has taken a thousand years to develop. If America survives for the next 700 years it may become civilized.
Refreshing to see someone call a spade a spade.
The U.S. can find faults in all others but none in itself --- how arrogant can one get?
You are insane!
@@imfromisrael489 I wouldn't boast about it If I was you .
The word "stalemate" was mistranslated.
One helluva sobering discussion about where we’re at in the West and just how and when our leaders will step up to counter the (in)direct aggression we’re facing domestically(we invited in the incompatible ideology) and abroad
Really. Only Islam, how about Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism. Oh don't worry about them. The agenda and geopolitics is about oil and natural resources. This means making sure Islam is protrayed in a negative way. Wake up man. This agenda is to do with Oil, gas and the control of it. The biggest problem is greed, inequality and having a supremacist outlook.
Niall Ferguson is one of my favorite historians and Geopolitical analysts... but he's overstating his case. 1) Ukraine/Russia "wins". What does that mean? For Russia, it would have meant conquering Ukraine, having Nato fall apart, and the way cleared for gobbling up Moldova, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, and dominating Europe. That didn't happen. Russia already didn't win, now they're trying not to lose catastrophically. Ukraine "won" a marginal victory when it repulsed Russian advances towards Kiev and Odessa. Now they're trying to gain a decisive victory by taking Crimea. That failed, and now there's a stalemate. Much worse for Russia and China than Korea in 1952.
Two years ago Russia was considered a great power. No more. And China has based their military weaponry and organization on Russia, and its now clear that they might actually be defeated by tiny Taiwan!
As for Israel and Iran, (and its allies), it is clear that Hamas is losing catastrophically, and Hezbollah is afraid to back them up too much, because Iran is staying out of it. Once Hamas is finished, the entire Israeli defense forces will be free to face off against Hezbollah, which will be isolated and will have to back down or be destroyed, a humiliation.
And Iran? They have just crushed a major revolt inside their country, led by women sick of religious dictatorship. They are too weakened to take on a war with Israel, let alone the US, especially with 20% of the US Navy sitting off their coast (not to speak of the US Air force assets). Now, will our decrepit old president actually unleash this force on Iran? They can guess, but a wrong decision could be catastrophic for them. And with Iran essentially abandoning its allies, its influence will have to be severely weakened.
And that leaves China. Their birth rate continues to plummet, their property bubble is probably the biggest bubble in human history, and it's popping. It promises to make 1929 look tame. I would not want to be in Xi's shoes, but its unclear how much he knows about it, since he is so insulated. Like the emperors of old, locked up in the Forbidden City. Might Xi lash out, to try to change the subject? Sure. But it would speed up their decline, since oil and food imports would cease. We would of course suffer tremendously, but we would almost certainly recover. They would not.
So, Niall is correct that its indeed a cold war, but this one is 2/3 over already. Russia and Iran look to be sidelined already. China is definitely a threat, but one that can probably be contained.
@@jamesburke3803 I agree with your general take. The cost:reward ratio for Russia in Ukraine has been immense, especially considering it's not even a NATO ally. I just hope the parties negotiate a cease fire because if Putin falls for the sunk cost fallacy, I believe he has the ability to finish Ukraine (perhaps Russia with it) if it's true that the average age of Ukrainian soldier is in their 40's (at least it's not 15... yet). In regards to China, I've heard some say their rise to #1 is inevitable and others say their fall is. My opinion: if inevitabilities exist, humans are certainly blind to them. As for the Middle East, I think it's clear that no state actor wants this to spread. That said, my fear is not the Muslim states but the Muslim streets. At this point, I think it's possible all these flash points simmer out. But I also think it's possible, given a couple dictators may be facing their fall, that some irrational decisions are made. I would feel more confident if our (US) domestic situation was better, but we have a major unity and identity crisis. This is not post-ww2 America with patriotism and a vibrant middle class growing. Of course, there has always been a ton of unrest throughout our history and that is especially true for much of the cold war, but it is always hard to measure/compare eras. It doesn't help that the Soviets are still kicking us in the nuts with their marxist infiltration of our education. I think there is also a lot of added variables: in a global and tech-based world, a lot of our freedoms and tolerance can be exploited. The optimist in me says if major conflict or crisis were to break out, we would come together and unite as we have in the past. We are a country that's been through a lot of crises but unlike those before us, most Americans are not accustomed to adversity. We must not assume past victories guarantee future ones. If anything, past success can often guide one into future failures via arrogance and complacency. I certainly hope you and the Peter Zeihans of the world are right
I hope you are correct. @@jamesburke3803
In the first cold war we started with a big victory and the A bomb, how are we going to start this one?
He is out of his mind～
I think the big difference is that the nuclear risk is much lower now than in the Cold War. That changes the dynamics enormously
also putin is constantly using nukes as a threat, its one of the reasons why no us boots on the ground have happened in ukraine aside from mercenaries
I completely disagree. Putin's nuclear rhetoric over Ukraine has already surpassed anything said by any Soviet leader
Thank you both, love your work !
I was in Cold War I. Those were good times indeed!
REALLY ?
I suggest you meet, talk with those who were living in one of
The USSR satellite countries,
NOW EU Member States and NATO Members.
Try talking to those of former East Germany.
When The Berlin Wall fell, November 1989,
thousands of East Germans said
'I want ALL the 'lost' years of my life BACK'
One question 'Do you like sausages made from 90% sawdust ?'
@@AquaFyrre
WELL SAID.
I wish those who look at the past through
'rose coloured spectacles'
keep their nostalgic views to themselves.
It is time for young people to decide, forge their own respective futures.
We older ones do NOT have the Right to speak.
We have more years behind us than in front of us.
I am 70, from the minute I was born I have lived in a peaceful country,
ENGLAND......for which I will stay eternally grateful.
@@AquaFyrre
The young people have met throughout my life,
both when working and now during retirement
have always shown respect and listened to me.
Maybe it is because I always try to show respect to them ?
Respect is a two way street.
Too many young people today feel ignored, neglected.
They HAVE to pay for further education.
Many work in minimum wage employment.
No hope of 'climbing the property ladder '
The pandemic 'hit them hard'
Now too many grandchildren are waiting for grandparents to die
in order to have access to an inheritance.
@@AquaFyrre
I am positive you will.
My youngsters are teaching me, trying at least,
re new technology.
When they call we talk for hours re current affairs.
Recently, I introduced them to the new
Rolling Stones Album, Cockney Diamonds.
We discuss WWI poetry.
There doesn't seem to be any knowledge I have gained
they are not interested in.
Please, try it and have fun. Enjoy.
Re: "There was nothing good about the cold war -- it swallowed up a lot of people - for what exactly?
What we have now?
Did they really expect a Nation like Russia to roll over and show it's belly after Gorbachev?...Really?? @@AquaFyrre
This guy is shoveling some pretty simplistic views of the world in this video.
Ya Ron Paul would run rough shod over this dudes neocon propaganda.
And the simpletons are lapping them up!
Fascinating to listen to him explain things
His is making it as he goes along. He was a Chair leader of Regan omics and Thatcherism, what did he think would happen when the West embarked on deindustrialization?
He not misspoken as you wish he were. @@ansa336
He is not explaining anything. He was spouting American talking points and propaganda! It was simply a one sided narrative
NATO - the Military complex- with U.S. backing and steering, is the entity whose agressive expansion caused all the problems, and the Ukarine War.
And this was totally ignored. America's fake narrative is "this war was unprovoked!"
BS!
SPEAK SOFTLY BUT CARRY A BIG STICK....................WE'VE FORGOTTEN THAT!!!!
Yeah well ,others have a big stick too 😂🤣
Nigeria never forgot
The actual lesson learned from the first Cold War is to keep your enemies fighting each other and to appear to the world as the lesser threat(among the great powers). The United States could not have won the Cold War without the Sino-Soviet split. And what truly brought the Soviet Union down was America's relationship with Saudi Arabia(IE the petrodollar). Which was strengthened because of Russia's meddling in the Muslim world(eg Afghanistan). If America loses the petrodollar, it loses Cold War II.
3:00 - Who’s “we”?? Speak for yourself. Some of us were never that naive.
You thought that everybody will let USA bully the whole world, without any protest?😂
I can't believe how Niall has arrived at his opinion of Ukraine.
He was well compensated for what he said with a straight face.
Why has the so-called free world developed so quickly that they overtake us in the western world economist with better welfare.
We see it mainly in China whose cities are super modern.
But we see similar enormous economic development in Russia after Putin took over and dealt with the oligarchs who took enormous wealth out of the country without benefiting the people.
I'm not saying I want it that way, but shouldn't we evaluate why these countries are developing so well while most things are stagnant here?
If I were to guess, it's mostly due to a strong state that doesn't allow sub-optimizations like we have here which usually comes from having to have a lot of choices. What can we learn from these countries?
… and as was asked in THAT MITCHELL AND WEBB LOOK, “Are we the baddies?”.
Niall Ferguson is one of my favorite historians and Geopolitical analysts... but he's overstating his case. 1) Ukraine/Russia "wins". What does that mean? For Russia, it would have meant conquering Ukraine, having Nato fall apart, and the way cleared for gobbling up Moldova, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, and dominating Europe. That didn't happen. Russia already didn't win, now they're trying not to lose catastrophically. Ukraine "won" a marginal victory when it repulsed Russian advances towards Kiev and Odessa. Now they're trying to gain a decisive victory by taking Crimea. That failed, and now there's a stalemate. Much worse for Russia and China than Korea in 1952.
Two years ago Russia was considered a great power. No more. And China has based their military weaponry and organization on Russia, and its now clear that they might actually be defeated by tiny Taiwan!
As for Israel and Iran, (and its allies), it is clear that Hamas is losing catastrophically, and Hezbollah is afraid to back them up too much, because Iran is staying out of it. Once Hamas is finished, the entire Israeli defense forces will be free to face off against Hezbollah, which will be isolated and will have to back down or be destroyed, a humiliation.
And Iran? They have just crushed a major revolt inside their country, led by women sick of religious dictatorship. They are too weakened to take on a war with Israel, let alone the US, especially with 20% of the US Navy sitting off their coast (not to speak of the US Air force assets). Now, will our decrepit old president actually unleash this force on Iran? They can guess, but a wrong decision could be catastrophic for them. And with Iran essentially abandoning its allies, its influence will have to be severely weakened.
And that leaves China. Their birth rate continues to plummet, their property bubble is probably the biggest bubble in human history, and it's popping. It promises to make 1929 look tame. I would not want to be in Xi's shoes, but its unclear how much he knows about it, since he is so insulated. Like the emperors of old, locked up in the Forbidden City. Might Xi lash out, to try to change the subject? Sure. But it would speed up their decline, since oil and food imports would cease. We would of course suffer tremendously, but we would almost certainly recover. They would not.
So, Niall is correct that its indeed a cold war, but this one is 2/3 over already. Russia and Iran look to be sidelined already. China is definitely a threat, but one that can probably be contained.
Hope your scenario is more likely than Nialls especially with regard to Iran and the ME situation re Israel.
One country you didn't mention as competition to China is India?
Wishful thinking.....
Interesting! I didn't understand how the Russia/Ukraine is already over? Also, do you have recommendations for low-bias news sources?
😂And I don't want to be in usa shoes lol
One of the underestimated player in this Second Cold War is India.
we have already seen the never ending CWI, the world needs to prevent this from happening..had enough
Very uplifting, pass the hemlock.
I believe that the current situation is the result of the fact that when the previous world order (the Cold War) changed, it did not change completely, but rather partially. Therefore, the new world order (which was announced by removing Iraq from Kuwait) is not completely new. The totalitarian Soviet Union was not replaced by a truly democratic state, but rather a totalitarian state led by Putin is the son of the Soviet Union. The United States, which destroyed Vietnam and emerged defeated in the seventies, also destroyed Iraq twice, in 1991 and then in 2003.
John/ Niall...brilliant....Dublin
Even it's not a rethoric, what they are saying is in short the real current time, but what they are doing as well it's a public message for the public, but this is for one level and understanding uncomplete, can you talk about what it is the free world. It's for them for the people to finish thinking of freedom. Itself.
I don't think it's about the Free world vs Communism, rather it's about Maritime civilization (Anglo-Saxons) vs Continental civilization, in which the Continental civilization were always the dominant winner throughout human history (Vikings, Romes, Greeks, Mongols) except the last 200 years which were dominated by the Maritime Civilizations.
It is Plutocracy (U.S.) versus Meritocracy (China)
Thanks for sharing these Interesting insights! Would be a good thing if the "free" world "leadership" would pay attention and be aware of what is playing out.
You have to not conflate western freedom with communist totalitarianism.
I’m looking forward to this warhawk and shill for the M.I.C. being proven wrong by history
I've been saying for awhile the piece's are being placed and It started with covid
ferguson was a leading proponent of the RUBIO and mythic world of 1991
@@AquaFyrre Don't engage with lunatics.
Hes a globalist loser he failed miserably in his prognostications @@AquaFyrre
India will decide the balance of power in the multi-polar world.
Yeah right... I have to agree with your analysis. BUT reality always wins, in the end. The only question is how, and when; not if. Individual agency is the only way forward, for human life. The imaginations of the hearts of those who think that they can re-write reality are doomed to fail. Whatever it takes, life will triumph, just like it always has. Believe this, whatever comes.
There were two Punic wars as well
Hey I have an idea. Why doesn the US stay out of other peoples business. There are solved the problem for you all.
Predicted on the inet ions ago 😢
Does this guy believe this twaddle about the free world......or is he just saying what brings in the loot?
Cold? It looks very hot!
And this time.. the whole world will lose.
Lots of hot warst while cold warII?
This guy lives in alternative reality.
China did not take the place of the USSR.
The US did.
The US is the one who is occupying and imposing it's hegemony and domination of Europe and Japan and South Korea and treating all these countries as tributary vassal states who must take orders from Washington about their foreign policies.
It forbidding its tributary vassal states from having independent foreign policies and forcing them to adopt American policies and defend American Imperialist interests and ambitions.
The US is the one who is spending humongous amount of money in its military industrial complex and neglecting the well being of its people and it's vast infrastructure problems.
The US is the one who cannot compete technologically and scientifically anymore so it's trying to throw renches into China's machines.
The US is the one fermenting and fueling wars in Ukraine, Palestine and Taiwan.
The only export the US has now is its ideology and weapons.
It does not produce anything else the world wants or needs.
China wants a fairer and more equitable world where all countries irrespective of their wealth development stsrud are free to sit at the table and share their opinions and voices in international affairs.
A world where the economic development needs of everyone is addressed.
China wantd to trade and do business with the whole world.
China wants true democracy in the international arena where all countries voices are respected.
The US wants to blackmail, sanction, and threaten everyone who does not obey it.
The US wants to dictate to the world how everyone should live.
The US wants to impose its own ideology and values in the world. It refuses to accept other countries and regions cultural and historical differences.
It thinks it's way of doing things is a one size fits all.
I completely agree with you man 👍🏽
That’s a whole lot of ifs.
要冷戰？ 奉陪！
Yes, it is, for an imperialist
Niall Ferguson ,,, stop laying , all you say is misleading people .
China has launched it's first aircraft carrier.
Third one, my friend. The Liaoning, The Shandong and The Fujian! The fourth (nuclear powered) is being built
6:25 what does he mean "we were all in"? Hahaha
The west literally was not all in.
We need more discussion about how we bring the political forces of the center left and center right coming together, to continue to have support for frontline states like Ukraine and Israel. Political extremists have fetishes, Russia on the right, and Hamas and Iran on the left. We're far to caught up in domestic left right squabbles to really prepare for the storm that's coming.
There is no left vs right anymore. It's the Centre vs the Extreme. Sure the extreme left and right squabble on cultural issues, but they are in lockstep on their mission to destroy the West. Both domestically and abroad.
Maybe get some new guests with differing opinions, neocons will always be neocons and as the empire contracts they'll just be shouting louder. Vassal states in the collective west would want to think a little deeper about the coming years
Talking rubbish
How about all of Latin America? China and Iran have many more tentacles their than we do. The US hasn't helped much to strengthen their struggling democracies (at least nothing that I know of)
The West lost the Golbal South a long time ago. While the US builds bases and tries to build a military empire of 900 bases worldwide, the Chinese build tangible things people use, such as roads and bridges. Note to the Neocons here, all these bases have not made the West safe. Even Ronald Reagan understood the wisdom of withdrawing instead of escalating in the Middle East back in 1983 when 300 Marines were blown up and killed. He tried to fix and strengthen the military and border at home first. That had positive results. The Western insistence on chess board regime changes does not help the Global South. They are tired of living in chaos too often as a result of US initiated proxy wars. Sanctioning countries does not hurt the politicians. It only further increases antiwesternism in the general population. In fact, politicians get more popular after sanctions. People blame it on the West instead of the politicians, and resistance goes abroad. Putin and Assad are more popular than before in the country, just like history has repeatedly shown that sanctions don't work. The Western obsession with sanctions is puzzling because it has never worked to affect political change within a country by it^s people. After decades of sanctions on 50 plus countries, not one country has internally overthrown a leader due to sanctions. This misplaced faith in policing and dealing with the poor world with sanctions and reflection proxy wars has never worked well for the West. The Neocons really believe in it, though. They take this as an effective way to deal with the non-Western world regardless of repeated evidence to the contrary. The West seems to love engaging in it now. Ironically, free trade is how the West became prosperous. It is what it idealizes. Yet the West has no problem trading with favored unfree countries like Saudi Arabia. It has done so for years. Most of the world sees that double speak hypocrisy . They no longer take Western virtue signaling about freedom seriously. Most of the world is looking for ways to dedollarize now. As far as the hearts and minds of people in the Global South, Russia and China clearly win there over the West. Most people in Latin America now think the IMF is an institution designed to keep them poor while strengthening Western Capitalism and Economic Imperilaism over them. The West has done a bad job disuading them from that perception. As much as the West loves talking about freedom, the Global South can relate more to the Chinese practical saying about Western platitudes about freedom. The Chinese proverb or reaction to Western comments on freedom is that you can not eat freedom when you are in poverty. Western economic imperialism in the post colonial period does not even recognize this nor combats Chinese or Russian good practical relations in the 3rd world. Relations that are far more practical than the impractical often hypocritical liberalism and perceived aloof arrogance of the West by most of the planet.
@@dnotleythere Actually much of the "Global South" has belatedly come to realize that Chinese "Aid" is a honey trap. China doesn't give anything, it loans and it loans at terms that make it basically the world's largest and most ruthless payday loan outfit.
Many DEMOCRATIC COUNTRIES outside EUROPE, don't want anything to do with US, from SRI LANKA, SOUTH AFRICA, NAMIBIA, MEXICO, BRAZIL, INDONESIA, SENEGAL, PARAGUAY, PERU...
-DEMOCRACY doesn't mean AMERICAN Ally.
@@dnotleythere --- your posting should be included in textbooks of American schools. It would contribute to peace and understanding.
@KayyHong Thank you. That means quite a bit. That is what matters. As a Westerner, now living in India, I want the good Western values to spread peacefully. The people of the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe were attracted to the Western ideals of freedom and open markets, not sanctions back in the 1980s. After being tried in 52 countries in 60 years with no political successes out of any of it, Western politicians continue to feel compelled to do it as being seen for doing something whether it is actually a legitimate concern for the local people in the actusl country or not. My concern is that it is hurting ordinary people worldwide. It has never hurt any of the politicians they are trying to punish. Now, it is also making the West more isolated. The paradox of this sanctioning is that it goes against the free trade Adam Smith ideals that made the West and Britain prosperous in the first place. The world is sick of Ukraine and moving on without the West. The West is getting more deindustrialized, insular, and left behind. Neil Ferguson and Neocons may not admit it. But the West needs the resources, trade, and industry of China, the Global South, and yes, Russia, far more than they need the West. Using sanctions as a weapon will backfire more as the world dedollarizes. The West has to use diplomacy much better, like the Russians and Chinese do in most of the world. The West still has economic imperialistic thinking with its former colonies in the Middle East and Global South. They should not be surprised to see China and Russia have many friends, and the West is not listened to as much outside the West these days. This may come as a shock to most people in this channel. Eventually, more people in the West will see that sanctioning half the world is not in the interest of the West. A deindustrialized West is a stagnating one, whereas manufacturing real things in the real economy continues to grow in China and Russia conducting trade without US dollars. The hubris in this Western obsession with sanctions is actually hurting the West more in its financial global dominance, actually. The West lately grows just debt, finance, services, and real estate asset bubbles. Another concern is this Western propaganda military and political analysis of the non-Western world. It has consistently been wrong from Vietnam to Afghanistan because it is solely based on wishful thinking instead of fact finding and reality. It is about time someone calls out these so-called experts on this feel-good propaganda. I don't know if Joe is an elite or trying to protect the corrupt military industrial complex we have been supporting in the West. Maybe.he just does regular media spin from the West that is always uncritical of the standard line, unlike the press back in Vietnam. Either way, these elites these days don't know what they are doing, stubbling into war like back in Vietnam. The West has not won a decisive war and peace after it since World War 2 and the Marshall Plan. Neocon wars always end in disaster from Syria, Afghanistan , to Ukraine. Eisenhower warned about the military industrial complex corruption. Going into another failed proxy war and risking Worl War 3 is nuts. Again, thanks. These neocons are never taken into account or called out. They just move on to the next war like say China. I have relatives in the US, and some are still in the military. They do not want to be involved in some crazy war as millions of illegals cross the border. It seems the world has gone crazy especially in the West these days. I doubt the West has the commitment nor industrial capacity to fight a real war like in World War 2. The Neocons have shown that they are out of touch. Ukraine has shown also that the corrupt military industrial complex.( I still pay taxes for as US citizen overseas,) produces fancy impractical weapons in real war just as Eisenhower forsaw back in the 1950s. I had experienced that in Iraq 20 years ago as the army was being charged 100 dollars for a hammer and soldiers 20 dollars by Halliburton for doing a load of laundry. I experienced the corruption and grift of war personally. I learned to hate it. Montgomery, by the way, hated proxy wars, too, like the Suez Canal British intervention of the 1950s. The British elite were uncomfortable around him because he asked critical tough questions about what the real goals of the operation were. He determined Suez would fail with an imperialistic mindset and changed conditions in the Middle East. Like Eisenhower, he was a realist. It helped him win battles in World Wsr 2. These were the last Western generals who won actual wars. It is time to stop listening to this current generation of 5 star NATO generals who lost in Iraq and Afghanistan or had the notable distinction of bombing civilians in Serbia back in 1998. Sorry for the long rant.
Does Ferguson state that west needs to see Russia, China, Iran, Hamas, and Hezbollah as one combined entity? Does that then require that the west support both Israel and Ukraine and insure that at the very least that they do not lose any wars? If so, should the Republican Party in the usa fully support Ukraine as much or more than even Israel?Will the American public elect a president in 2024 that fully supports Israel but only half heartedly supports Ukraine? If so does Putin protect the Republican president and not invade another European nation until the usa has a democratic president?
We currently have a president that fully supports Israel but half-heartedly supports Ukraine. If Trump wins, then you'll have a president that nominally supports Israel (but doesn't really) and nominally opposes Russia (but doesn't really)
It's appalling to say the least to hear this famed "historian" and the writer of Henry Kissinger's two volume biography conveniently frame the current Sino-US tension as "free vs unfree" like some Simpson's character....I mean for a British, even Boris Johnson would sound slightly more sophisticated than that....
I'm actually 1/3 into the first volume of Kissinger The Idealist in the past few days...Meticulously researched and written so far...But what he says here makes me wonder whether he's actually learnt anything from Kissinger AT ALL over the past two decades or so...😔
You make no justified argument in the first paragraph.
@@MarianneHMiettinen Mary, if he is one of the finer intellects to educate the Western public regarding geopolitics and future of the world & mankind in general, I'm afraid there's simply one more reason to worry about our shared future on this planet... Intellects, historians especially, ultimately and fundamentally have the responsibility to decipher our current & future standings through a nuanced and balanced perspective and deliver TRUTH rather than biased propaganda to their audience... Neither is easy to achieve but Niall Ferguson as a "historian" didn't even bother to mask his own arrogance and biases. It's really ironic for an intellectual protege of no other than Kissinger to come up with such oversimplfied views regarding world affairs...
@@alexhe7512 Is your argument that Niall Ferguson is not a good historian because he is biased and he simplifies? If so, what is his bias and what he simplifies, exactly?
@@MarianneHMiettinen
His bias and simplifications are most evident in his summary of current global tension as "free vs unfree"...
That's a really childish understanding, to say the least, of the complexity of our world today for anyone above 35 years old, let alone a so called historian/intellectual...
Has he ever sought to explain how our world has come to this stage? With what happened since let's say the new millennium, 911, wars in Middle East, credit crunch, eurozone crisis, refugees, ISIS so on and so forth, has he ever examined more introspectively the underlying causes if not malices (neoliberal agendas, over privatisation, de-industrialization...) that erodes and undermines to this day the Western society, or the "free world" by his definition?
Why bother with all the above "non sense" if u are getting well paid by the likes of Rockefellers, for whom another propagandist is always welcome to (mis)educate the citizens and simply redirect their discontents and angers at home brought about by the undoings of the Western neoliberal elites over the past 4 decades ... to no other than the "unfree" world?
Xi Jinping is my Hero ❤️. For Peace and Prosperity for All.
The carriers will do nothing. We can take care of ourselves. Gloves 🧤 are still ON because of the US our big brother is holding us down. NOT SAYING WE DO NOT APPRECIATE THE US HELP SO FAR BUT THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO WIN IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
A geo-political chess match between the free and the non free world worlds. Back to the video games!