malign could be better when controlled by players, as it stops shooting just to target another unit, but by player you can keep shooting so it won't stop
I think the turrets should stay charging attacks for about 1 second after they attacked last and not shoot unless it’s targeted another enemy, so that they don’t stop shooting at a wave of enemies.
they have animation warmup so a limited animation cooldown instead of instant cooldown could end making them far more effective than they are when controlled by ai
Killing one powerful enemy is a thing, killing thousands of weak enemies is another story, crowd control is key when dealing with a lot of enemies, even if they're weak
@@Fagerst yeah. If upu just fire in the general direction of the enemy its way more effective bc it doesnt stop firing. Its very powerfull. It might even be able to take down 2 scepters if it doesnt get destroyed
I have a suggestion. Since the bot’s ai is programmed to do a straight line and not like a circle swarm, just put a wall in the end of the passage way so they go like straight line again. But this time, put the turret at the side so that you will be able to hit more enemies. Plus, it would be more realistic doing it this way since ppl probably will do it that way when v7 finally gets to be released.
with malign and lustre you have to control it because they stop at each dead unit, and in campaign mode i doubt people will just sit watching the turret works
@@Fagerst lustre have a interesting working way though You need to control it to give it max range, as the beam have to move up slowly to reach it if there are enemies inside its range Lustre is a pretty hard to use tower, as you always have to sit inside to give it max range everytime it lose the range, but once you done it, it can kill tough targets with no fuss
To be fair it’s mostly the fact that the turrets with long cooldown times have a problematic AI, they target a single enemy and not the largest amount of enemies in a set proximity, like Malign wich has homing bullets but goes absolutely insane over 2 tile combat because it doesn’t know which one’s the best target, it is very funny though watching the turret have a stroke trying to find out who to hit next
Bro did lustre soooo dirty Ray damaging not only at the tip. Whole ray deals damage. Like, it's a good anti swarm turret, but only when controlled manually (or with logic, but I'm not sure)
You used smite and malign in wrong way. Players should control these turrets, as they have to wind up. They are much stronger, if you will control them
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malign could be better when controlled by players, as it stops shooting just to target another unit, but by player you can keep shooting so it won't stop
That's true
Bro i think that malign is a single target turret so with multiple targets its very bad
@@jacoposardella3772 that's false
@@radio5637 nah its true
@@jacoposardella3772 I don’t know, it’s easy to kill a thousand daggers ...
I think the turrets should stay charging attacks for about 1 second after they attacked last and not shoot unless it’s targeted another enemy, so that they don’t stop shooting at a wave of enemies.
Spectre
@@ultrasuper6353 ?
Or you could just give him the scorch ai
they have animation warmup so a limited animation cooldown instead of instant cooldown could end making them far more effective than they are when controlled by ai
Malign can annihilate tier 5 enemys but fails to kill 80 small tonks.
This really shows that tonk is one of the most efficient units of all time :D
Issue is players have unit caps, can't build 100 tonks.
@@starburst98 you could combine tier 1 + t2 + t3
That would still be cheaper, and maybe still work :D
This also shows that anything can be op when spammed
Killing one powerful enemy is a thing, killing thousands of weak enemies is another story, crowd control is key when dealing with a lot of enemies, even if they're weak
Malign's AI sucks so if the turret is controlled by a player, it's absolutely op
The Stells are very Cute! though
When i saw the malign i knew it can do over 100 being player controlled
Without player control it is very random
@@Fagerst yeah. If upu just fire in the general direction of the enemy its way more effective bc it doesnt stop firing. Its very powerfull. It might even be able to take down 2 scepters if it doesnt get destroyed
I have a suggestion. Since the bot’s ai is programmed to do a straight line and not like a circle swarm, just put a wall in the end of the passage way so they go like straight line again. But this time, put the turret at the side so that you will be able to hit more enemies. Plus, it would be more realistic doing it this way since ppl probably will do it that way when v7 finally gets to be released.
You can check it's efficiency by clicking it and you can see it's item capacity if it's getting empty time to time
we're so used to green thing heal thing that you need clarification that breech in fact does not heal thing
with malign and lustre you have to control it because they stop at each dead unit, and in campaign mode i doubt people will just sit watching the turret works
Afflicts are insane because in v7 two can hold back 4 tectas. alone. Every single mindustry turret has bad swarm ai.
I like how after seeing the titan tonks decided to break through the wall instead
Stells are like daggers but they design is made to stay in erekir much longer with the temperature
use the mod (scheme size) there you can manually compare the required number of enemies!
Scathe are by far satisfying to watch as they remind me of anti naval missiles
Everybody gangsta until nukes are officially an item in V8
Love your content bro
I feel like luster is severly underpowered
I also think so
Would you say it is lack luster?
it is meant for single target dps
Lustre is amazing. Cheap ammo, shreds higher tier units
It's main job is to kill high hp unit,that's why it have insane dps,more than sublimate infact
Erekir stuff is gonna need some serious balancing
It's only stells, I think these turrets won't kill T5 alone
EREKIR STANDARDS.
@@Fagerst malign alone can defeat 2 spoders
@@Fagerst malign probably can kill 5 or 10 t5 units if it's controlled by a player
@@Skibidiedger123sigmaand Lustre destroy t5,it just bad agaisnt swarm
Great video dude, I love what you do
I see a confounding variable. You should have either put walls the whole time or not at all.
I think that weapons from default planet are for effective). For example incinerator.
They just keep adding new stuff this game is awesome
Mostly just one person that does all the work :D
malign has animation warmup after every time it starts shooting so full auto fire would end with 200 or 300 stells
so unfair for some turrets
nice vid tho
For which?
lustre
@@finaltheory778 Why?
@@Fagerst lustre have a interesting working way though
You need to control it to give it max range, as the beam have to move up slowly to reach it if there are enemies inside its range
Lustre is a pretty hard to use tower, as you always have to sit inside to give it max range everytime it lose the range, but once you done it, it can kill tough targets with no fuss
To be fair it’s mostly the fact that the turrets with long cooldown times have a problematic AI, they target a single enemy and not the largest amount of enemies in a set proximity, like Malign wich has homing bullets but goes absolutely insane over 2 tile combat because it doesn’t know which one’s the best target, it is very funny though watching the turret have a stroke trying to find out who to hit next
Fun fact: diffuse deals more damage as the target gets closer
Are these things in the new planet update?
Yes
how do you access erekir content, public beta doesnt seem to have it
Look in electric gun's video how to unlock erekir content
ruclips.net/video/WYJx6hibBGU/видео.html
Look in the description
You couldve used terrain blocks instead of carbide walls so the stells dont get distracted and it can be more accurate
I realised that when I used Titan
The Lustre is for single target I think
Tonk stronker together
Smite funni
did you know that there is a block called a heat source?
now you know that
I've known this for a long time)
smite got a very very nice amount of enemies
Yes, but it could be better
why is the sound of guns firing not normal
Lustre is powerful in groups and its op against high Tier units
Lustre is a very high damage output, but it can only attack one unit at a time, so it’s not great at this challenge.
it can attack multiple
"how many of each serpulo turret can hold off one toxopid"
BREECH
Bro did lustre soooo dirty
Ray damaging not only at the tip. Whole ray deals damage.
Like, it's a good anti swarm turret, but only when controlled manually (or with logic, but I'm not sure)
How to get erekir buildings in sandbox?
How you have mindustry v7 in a phone?
Sorry for my bad english
Check description
@@Fagerst tanks bro,take mi subscription ;)
Mine has a new shooting sound
Are these their upgraded ammo? I believe they can perform better if brought to their fullest potential, especially sublimate
yes they are at there best ammo since most of them only use one or two ammo types
smite?
nice
now do all together
Lustre is better for big units as its damage is ridiculously high, if it had pierce or target faster it would be the best weapon in the game
Me and the bois after the *BEANS*
Lustre is better against a singular stronger unit then against multiple weaker ones.
You used smite and malign in wrong way. Players should control these turrets, as they have to wind up. They are much stronger, if you will control them
do you realize u could have just used a heat source to heat up afflict
Why is water flammable
if yore talking about sublimate cyanogen is some kind of fuel
searched it up 'its a carbon nitride, it is a colorless and highly toxic gas
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how to get v7
Chech description
Lustre es mejor para enemigos fuertes en menor cantidad...
бро по секрету но есть источник нагрева(сам недавно узнал)
почему источник с водой взрывается💀
Name mod?
this is not a mod
1:56 sus
Malign is good and can kill any unit at any number its just its ai aiming sucks
biased testing
bad test, every setup isn't consistent