Tbh I think Flip be cappin when he says that sometimes.. I doubt him and Marc are having many private conversations.. He cant even give a good example bc it's petty af
lol flip is such a simpleton he thinks educated conversation is pandering. This is what educated black youth have dealt with for years in some environments. Being insulted by their peers for not being on their level.
exactly my thoughts// I’m from queens; farmers and linden blvd, went to ps 118q, I’m genuinely a fan of the nigga but damn smh this nigga is really slow and it hurts to hear him speak trivially, try to sound smart to dumb niggas and just try to hard
Lol Flip just needs to go.. he crashing out every time we look up.. I cant imagine getting on spaces with this grown ass toddler contradicting himself and sounding like a fool
Flip feels threatened cuz mark is far from an idiot like him..flip is overrated if you ask me..this is too much thinking for him to do on a long term basis
@zuluboy4056 I like flip, he got his moments when he's funny. He bring fun when the pod members are stiff and not talking. He can switch the mood in the room.
Flip that person in the class who doesn’t understand what everybody’s talking about, so they decide to act out to get all the attention on them and distract from the fact they don’t know 💩
Marc is just more intelligent than your average male JBP listener, and like Flip and Ish, their minds can't comprehend nuance. I get the same backlash in the reddit comments. Y'all be out here speaking your stagnated minds and are incapable of taking accountability for where you've allowed yourself to fall on the intellual ladder. 🤷🏽♂️ Ppl think the internet can hide the fact that they're unread and unimformed behind these keyboards.
They are educated in ignorance😅. Definitely on the cave man side of things as far as being old-school. They know how to pretend not to be so they don't get canceled. But it's obvious most of them have deep issues with women😅
I think Flip feels a way about Marc being on the show. I notice he looks at him sideways at times and makes it point to go at Marc. I was definitely getting that vibe from him the episode Melyssa missed and Marc was there
That is the only example they have. They never use when Ish be wrong and instead of saying he wrong he pout and say you got it so he don’t gotta continue the convo. Or Flip over stepping boundaries then saying oh it’s just COE. That whole podcast is a perfect example of no accountability
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Flip just said a whole lot of nonsense. As much as I love the pod it’s a couple phrases I had that they over use. Pandering is definitely one of them. Accountability as well. They just be throwing them words around not having the slightest clue what they mean 😂
I truly believe that Flip is mentally challenged..Joe Budden is similar to Adam22 in the sense that he hires people who he sees will never outgrow him success wise.
They need refrain from talking about politics. Joe & Ice are so off is pathetic. Ish thinks he knows EVERYTHING and is usually WRONG 80% of the damn time. Flip is just intellectually challenged. He gets paid to sit there and say nonsense. Ugh
Joe and ppl like gillie and them have million dollar deals, it’s a difference.. Whether flip is there or not, he’s not making anybody rich!!! 😂 … Flip always feels so entitled, it’s crazy. Joe gave you a raise and your own show 2x?. And he’s still threatening to leave, you the only one that’s gonna take a lost smh. Joe can buy 2 more mansions… Didn’t flip just buy a house with an elevator, went to JA/Trinidad , and brought a some new electric jeep this year.. Stop pocket watching 😂
if anything, I pray Trump's new economy finds career employment or work for all these JBP space cretins. They be messy, reaching, and hoping for the tea on the show, when most of us just want a good show. Marc is happily married, him siding with Mel--a coworker -- is not pandering. It's looking at the argue or topic from his own lends, and siding with the narrative that honesty defines his opinions. I wonder if this spaces folks are married?
Flip needs to educate himself before getting in adult conversation or ask questions. If he doesn't understand he takes as disrespect, (best movie scene) 😂😂
It’s shocking that at his big age, that Flip lacks the maturity and understanding of what growth can really do. His inability to read the room will ultimately be his demise, if he doesn’t part with his stubborn ways and ego. He does more talking than listening. People are giving good advice from a loving place, but I don’t think he ever learned to properly communicate, so he takes this criticism as a slight. I think he always responds in ways that may set him back, instead of taking that critical advice and implement it. As a fan of the JBP, I’m jaded on everything Flip. I don’t think his presence is a good fit, but as a fair human being, I hope that he starts to make the necessary changes and grows up. He’s bigger than these antics and once he realizes that and stops being afraid to show the true Flip, I think he’ll start to see a different demographic rooting for him and more business ventures. ❤
And Marc brought up a good question that is flip also pandering just to a different side. Flip sounds crazy, im lowkey glad mels got somebody up there for her instead of six men just up there staring and snickering at her whenever she says one sentence.
I think he maybe thought his regular antics would work on the JBP… and it’s been one hell of an adjustment… these are different waters he’s navigating in..
Marc does pander, he's mastered it. That's why he's able to get cooked by Candace Owen's in debates. Shouldn't be the case, but I've seen this man not be able to define a woman
He explains what a woman is, yall are just dense... He explained he groups cis woman and trans woman as woman... there are clear distinctions... that what those terms are there for.... Candace Owen didnt cook anything... she says a lie... Marc addresses... it concisely... which comes off boring... so people like you dont even remember the full rebuttal because you tuned out... Style and rhetorical confidence.. makes you think somebody is "winning" the debate.
I think that Joe and Flip made an agreement. If Joe increases revenue than he should pay the co host more money and Flip particularly because they have Improper Improv and more. I believe Flip is pocket watching and getting aggravated because I believe Flip wants a raise and feel like the show is a waste of time for him.
Ngl y’all forcing it flip is right. Marc is way smarter than flip and he also panders to women.. that’s okay! Do y’all have this same energy when ppl say Ish hates women?
@ flip saying whatever lol, if that’s the case then the whole pod panders. They’ve all said if it’s someone they fuck with they not gonna speak on them in a bad light. There is no proof Marc said that except Flip saying it to make himself look right
@@DBZRappaer well idk if he’s lying but I would hope he wouldn’t seriously divulge a private conversation to the public without his knowledge but I do assume they all are lying on the pod, refer to the tag in the front.
It’s sad how scared people are to call mfs out on their pandering 😂😭women are not that scary and I promise you most women don’t agree with bullshit just from the women I hear from daily in all groups
Not that I'm taking flips side or don't believe a marginalized group of shouldn't be pandered to. But to remove generalizations on platforms such as the jbp makes it less accessible. 1) they're not that type of platform where conversations and the verbiage used will be pc and ridiculously nuanced and 2) when they get into those type of convos I'm reminded I could just go watch marc's channel or a Roy Woods instead who are more informed and better worded in those convos, Mel included. It's not that they shouldn't be mindful or broach different topics but they should be mindful to what extent 🤷🏾♂️
Mark can come across as pandering but his perspective is there's already men doing that why would he add to it? Even if he is it makes for a good back and forth to argue the opposite side which is what the podcast is missing, mel had that lane wide open but thats not her she plays the pc game she does have her moments but she could be a great voice to speak from the opposite perspective
While alot of comments are about how slow Flip is, he has a point Marc's commentary is to favor women. And im glad Mel has someone to defend her from the other guys.
Does flip pander to the street ignorant mindset? Or that just his mindset? Everybody has different povs. If one is pandering to one group the other is pandering to another.
Either people in these comments are new to Marc or are complete idiots. The very first time Marc was on before I hit play I commented that he is a pandering mf. That's what he does and over time you people defending him will get tired of it and call it out too. Marc Lamont Hill is notorious for pandering.
Why is that even a title. Flip wasn't serious about that. It was fun banter to poke fun of Marc lamont Hill. Yall need 2 loosen up,and stop taking things 2 seriously.
Flip isn’t stupid he plays a roll like wwe he’s a millionaire he far from dumb if u think he is it says more abt u. Marc is intelligent but he also speaks like a politician not really answering questions lol hence saying he panders. He caters to women and bcuz of that women equate that to intelligence bcuz he can articulate himself while doing so lol
anybody who is very reasonable & objective gets called a panderer i don’t agree w everything either btw im saying that bc he FR keeps a level educated perspective ooops sorry u caint keep up Flip 🙄
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Anyone that can string a complete, basic, fundamental sentence together…Flip will find said person threatening.
This
😂😂😂😩🥴💀💀
Marc defending Mel = pandering
Flip defending Joe = defending my man
Lmfaooo
@@xman0216 the difference is flip be joking with Joe Marc a simp he even pretty much admitted that on Wednesday pod
@ Marc smoked these niggas on Wednesday pod wtf you talking bout. They basically admitted to simping over Bernice, they no different.
@@TherealBabayega he's a simp for saying all people regardless of gender or race have accountability issues?? ya'll weird
@@hegeliandianetik2009 thats not even what I’m talking about I’m convinced yall slow
@@hegeliandianetik2009😅😅right
This dude flip always snitching. Always telling what is said in private conversations.
Tbh I think Flip be cappin when he says that sometimes.. I doubt him and Marc are having many private conversations.. He cant even give a good example bc it's petty af
Having a different perspective isn’t called pandering.
but pandering is pandering right
This, too! These spaces folks are break room gossipists,
@@mdotcom09 bur how is it pandering if he explained his position, I honestly think Flip is too dumb to accept others peoples opinions
No but when someone clearly on bullshit and you never say it is crazy tho
lol flip is such a simpleton he thinks educated conversation is pandering. This is what educated black youth have dealt with for years in some environments. Being insulted by their peers for not being on their level.
This is all entertainment purposes
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Flip calls it pandering because he can’t keep up with the conversations
This
If most people agree your pandering it’s safe to say you’re a panda bear. Marc is apart of the panderverse the same people who voted for Harris
@@TherealBabayegayou just proved op right
@@egb8728 I don’t even know who that is or what you talking about but anybody that agrees with Marc is the reason the world is the way it is
@@TherealBabayegaso you don’t know what pandering is either lmaoo
I pray that Emanny got the chance to put some good hands on Flip .. being annoying, disloyal, insecure & loud doesn’t make you a “rebel”.
Dawg I’m convinced flip is slow
Need to give flip more credit
@ no I don’t. In fact I’m convinced that if doing dumb antics on the internet couldn’t get you paid; flip would be working a 9 to 5
exactly my thoughts// I’m from queens; farmers and linden blvd, went to ps 118q, I’m genuinely a fan of the nigga but damn smh this nigga is really slow and it hurts to hear him speak trivially, try to sound smart to dumb niggas and just try to hard
Welcome to the congregation! We've been waiting
Flips need to realize he went to the JBP for help not the other way around.
Flips whole routine was old before it even started. Nothing he does holds any weight without it being attached to somebody else
Lol Flip just needs to go.. he crashing out every time we look up.. I cant imagine getting on spaces with this grown ass toddler contradicting himself and sounding like a fool
Flip feels threatened cuz mark is far from an idiot like him..flip is overrated if you ask me..this is too much thinking for him to do on a long term basis
Yea he really has people fooled , I know he take naps after these conversations
@zuluboy4056 I like flip, he got his moments when he's funny. He bring fun when the pod members are stiff and not talking. He can switch the mood in the room.
@ I can agree to that sometimes..but unfortunately there’s more ignorant than funny moments with flip, in my opinion.
He talks over flips head and flip is threatened by it
It must be hard to have nothing floating around in your head all day
i'm a streetngga and i respect and treat my wife equally. Listening to flip make fun of Marc for respectin his wife is.....TELLING .
Flip that person in the class who doesn’t understand what everybody’s talking about, so they decide to act out to get all the attention on them and distract from the fact they don’t know 💩
Class Clown 🤡
I love all the "Flip is the guy who...." post. They are always 100% accurate
He really shook that Marc don’t just group think like all of them lol
Marc Lamont Hill has been known to Pander for years. This is nothing new.
WE NEED TO STOP ELEVATING STUPIDITY LIKE THIS. IT ISN'T FUNNY ANYMORE
It’s the mindset. Marc has a grown man mindset, flip is flip. I am subscribed to Marc, not flip because my mindset is not where flip is.
Marc is just more intelligent than your average male JBP listener, and like Flip and Ish, their minds can't comprehend nuance. I get the same backlash in the reddit comments. Y'all be out here speaking your stagnated minds and are incapable of taking accountability for where you've allowed yourself to fall on the intellual ladder. 🤷🏽♂️ Ppl think the internet can hide the fact that they're unread and unimformed behind these keyboards.
They are educated in ignorance😅. Definitely on the cave man side of things as far as being old-school. They know how to pretend not to be so they don't get canceled. But it's obvious most of them have deep issues with women😅
I think Flip feels a way about Marc being on the show. I notice he looks at him sideways at times and makes it point to go at Marc. I was definitely getting that vibe from him the episode Melyssa missed and Marc was there
He explained this bozo went on spaces to double down on stupid take. Does flip even know what pandering means?
They really having a discussion about people being fake on a podcast. Are they idiots??? Geeesh that’s disgusting
Why none of them niccas on Spaces dont tell Flip that him acting giddy while piling on Mel is not entertaining?
No they pandering to him lol
The ish apology is a good example of Mel not taking accountability.
The perfect point, I've never seen anything like that on a podcast lol
That is the only example they have. They never use when Ish be wrong and instead of saying he wrong he pout and say you got it so he don’t gotta continue the convo. Or Flip over stepping boundaries then saying oh it’s just COE. That whole podcast is a perfect example of no accountability
A lot of it was Mel podding though you can tell she is an entertainer, Ish takes himself way too seriously
Flip will never have Joe Budden money. He’ll never have Ian Schwartzman money either.
anybody who supports woman or looks at things from their pov always gets attacked by flip or jbp in general. toxic masculinity at its finest.
Flop is a clout chasing clown who is nothing without Joe
Can Lamont replace flip , like flip can come back every now and then but can we just switch it real quick
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Flip just said a whole lot of nonsense.
As much as I love the pod it’s a couple phrases I had that they over use. Pandering is definitely one of them. Accountability as well. They just be throwing them words around not having the slightest clue what they mean 😂
They are threatened by his smartness
No he blatantly was ignoring obvious points and he does pander .. honestly you have to be willfully ignorant to not see it.
And he should recognize this isn’t the space for it
He thinks men can have babies he’s a bozo
Naaah he pandering
No
I truly believe that Flip is mentally challenged..Joe Budden is similar to Adam22 in the sense that he hires people who he sees will never outgrow him success wise.
Y when men agree wit women it’s pandering y it can’t be his own opinion lol dats weird asf
Flip childish
They need refrain from talking about politics. Joe & Ice are so off is pathetic. Ish thinks he knows EVERYTHING and is usually WRONG 80% of the damn time. Flip is just intellectually challenged. He gets paid to sit there and say nonsense. Ugh
Joe and ppl like gillie and them have million dollar deals, it’s a difference.. Whether flip is there or not, he’s not making anybody rich!!! 😂 … Flip always feels so entitled, it’s crazy. Joe gave you a raise and your own show 2x?. And he’s still threatening to leave, you the only one that’s gonna take a lost smh. Joe can buy 2 more mansions… Didn’t flip just buy a house with an elevator, went to JA/Trinidad , and brought a some new electric jeep this year.. Stop pocket watching 😂
17:08 Why does he have to notify Flip before he buys a home.
if anything, I pray Trump's new economy finds career employment or work for all these JBP space cretins. They be messy, reaching, and hoping for the tea on the show, when most of us just want a good show. Marc is happily married, him siding with Mel--a coworker -- is not pandering. It's looking at the argue or topic from his own lends, and siding with the narrative that honesty defines his opinions. I wonder if this spaces folks are married?
The streets are asking for Lansky to be back on episode 2
I can see flip bein a weather man on the news yellin and goin off bouta the weather jumpin threw tables...😂😂 he reps for us rebels!!!!
If Mark was a panderer wouldn’t he still be at CNN?
What does that mean? Mark panders to women, hands down.
@@Chali_Mwhat you pander to men all you men who say he pander to women must not like women or must be in love with men like u
Joe is going to have to make a decision on Flip. Flip doesn’t bring enough of a unique presence to the JPB. Flip ignorance isn’t unique.
Juicy stay drunk
I don't think Marc be pandering he just speaks like a politician which sometimes comes off disingenuous
Flip needs to educate himself before getting in adult conversation or ask questions. If he doesn't understand he takes as disrespect, (best movie scene) 😂😂
It’s shocking that at his big age, that Flip lacks the maturity and understanding of what growth can really do. His inability to read the room will ultimately be his demise, if he doesn’t part with his stubborn ways and ego. He does more talking than listening. People are giving good advice from a loving place, but I don’t think he ever learned to properly communicate, so he takes this criticism as a slight. I think he always responds in ways that may set him back, instead of taking that critical advice and implement it. As a fan of the JBP, I’m jaded on everything Flip. I don’t think his presence is a good fit, but as a fair human being, I hope that he starts to make the necessary changes and grows up. He’s bigger than these antics and once he realizes that and stops being afraid to show the true Flip, I think he’ll start to see a different demographic rooting for him and more business ventures. ❤
Flip is terrible man idk
Most BM today panders especially for the 304’s cuz ya naturally Simp. Remember “ it ain’t tricking if you got it…” …..
Flip scared to stand on it ...
And Marc brought up a good question that is flip also pandering just to a different side. Flip sounds crazy, im lowkey glad mels got somebody up there for her instead of six men just up there staring and snickering at her whenever she says one sentence.
I think he maybe thought his regular antics would work on the JBP… and it’s been one hell of an adjustment… these are different waters he’s navigating in..
Marc does pander, he's mastered it. That's why he's able to get cooked by Candace Owen's in debates. Shouldn't be the case, but I've seen this man not be able to define a woman
He explains what a woman is, yall are just dense... He explained he groups cis woman and trans woman as woman... there are clear distinctions... that what those terms are there for.... Candace Owen didnt cook anything... she says a lie... Marc addresses... it concisely... which comes off boring... so people like you dont even remember the full rebuttal because you tuned out... Style and rhetorical confidence.. makes you think somebody is "winning" the debate.
I think that Joe and Flip made an agreement. If Joe increases revenue than he should pay the co host more money and Flip particularly because they have Improper Improv and more. I believe Flip is pocket watching and getting aggravated because I believe Flip wants a raise and feel like the show is a waste of time for him.
Ngl y’all forcing it flip is right. Marc is way smarter than flip and he also panders to women.. that’s okay! Do y’all have this same energy when ppl say Ish hates women?
How is defending a point pandering to women? Does Flip pander to men?
@ flip said it himself, Marc won’t be vocal bout certain shit women do because of his audience. What you call that?
@ flip saying whatever lol, if that’s the case then the whole pod panders. They’ve all said if it’s someone they fuck with they not gonna speak on them in a bad light. There is no proof Marc said that except Flip saying it to make himself look right
@ so now flips lying. Why not assume everybody is lying on the pod then? Yes the entire pod panders. What’s new?
@@DBZRappaer well idk if he’s lying but I would hope he wouldn’t seriously divulge a private conversation to the public without his knowledge but I do assume they all are lying on the pod, refer to the tag in the front.
It’s sad how scared people are to call mfs out on their pandering 😂😭women are not that scary and I promise you most women don’t agree with bullshit just from the women I hear from daily in all groups
Pandering ain’t real, cus If so everybody panders to a some group. Does flip pander to the street ignorant mindset or is that just how he thinks?
Did flip fart? 12:44
Not that I'm taking flips side or don't believe a marginalized group of shouldn't be pandered to. But to remove generalizations on platforms such as the jbp makes it less accessible. 1) they're not that type of platform where conversations and the verbiage used will be pc and ridiculously nuanced and 2) when they get into those type of convos I'm reminded I could just go watch marc's channel or a Roy Woods instead who are more informed and better worded in those convos, Mel included. It's not that they shouldn't be mindful or broach different topics but they should be mindful to what extent 🤷🏾♂️
Mark can come across as pandering but his perspective is there's already men doing that why would he add to it? Even if he is it makes for a good back and forth to argue the opposite side which is what the podcast is missing, mel had that lane wide open but thats not her she plays the pc game she does have her moments but she could be a great voice to speak from the opposite perspective
They step on her points mid sentence and go 3v1, Marc can debate 5v1 (he does that for a living. She ain’t got the skills to do that lolol
So he’s calling Marc a liar lol
While alot of comments are about how slow Flip is, he has a point
Marc's commentary is to favor women. And im glad Mel has someone to defend her from the other guys.
Does flip pander to the street ignorant mindset? Or that just his mindset? Everybody has different povs. If one is pandering to one group the other is pandering to another.
@z7513 Yeah he does a lot. But both opinions can be true.
Flip is a troll pocket watcher and jealous of Joe. He’s a competitive mess. And an opportunist. 14:06
Either people in these comments are new to Marc or are complete idiots. The very first time Marc was on before I hit play I commented that he is a pandering mf. That's what he does and over time you people defending him will get tired of it and call it out too. Marc Lamont Hill is notorious for pandering.
Who are?
provide an example
Flip is the best to do it lol , he's trying his hardest to talk like Joe budden
Flip seems as if he’s upset that the ppl are taking WHAT HE PUTS OUT at face value
Flip sometimes has a childish mentality. The end.
Why is that even a title. Flip wasn't serious about that. It was fun banter to poke fun of Marc lamont Hill. Yall need 2 loosen up,and stop taking things 2 seriously.
Flip isn’t stupid he plays a roll like wwe he’s a millionaire he far from dumb if u think he is it says more abt u. Marc is intelligent but he also speaks like a politician not really answering questions lol hence saying he panders. He caters to women and bcuz of that women equate that to intelligence bcuz he can articulate himself while doing so lol
Let’s gooooo. WAKE IT IP FLIP 😂
Straight up cause Marc be bullshittin
If you wanna keep your base that bad then leave bruh this ain’t the spot for that
@@jorgepayne2395stfu
"Goes off..." ... that's pandering...
Mark said a man can have a baby... case closed
no he did no he said trans men and that is a fact
anybody who is very reasonable & objective gets called a panderer
i don’t agree w everything either btw im saying that bc he FR keeps a level educated perspective ooops sorry u caint keep up Flip 🙄
He just has a weird energy toward women
Who
Flip is trash
I fvck with Flip