Why Shrink A Perfectly Good Plane? - Lockheed Electra Junior | Aircraft History 113

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024

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  • @RexsHangar
    @RexsHangar  Год назад +38

    F.A.Q Section
    Q: Do you take aircraft requests?
    A: I have a list of aircraft I plan to cover, but feel free to add to it with suggestions:)
    Q: Why do you use imperial measurements for some videos, and metric for others?
    A: I do this based on country of manufacture. Imperial measurements for Britain and the U.S, metric for the rest of the world, but I include text in my videos that convert it for both.
    Q: Will you include video footage in your videos, or just photos?
    A: Video footage is very expensive to licence, if I can find footage in the public domain I will try to use it, but a lot of it is hoarded by licencing studies (British Pathe, Periscope films etc). In the future I may be able to afford clips :)
    Q: Why do you sometimes feature images/screenshots from flight simulators?
    A: Sometimes there are not a lot of photos available for certain aircraft, so I substitute this with digital images that are as accurate as possible.

    • @charlestonianbuilder344
      @charlestonianbuilder344 Год назад +2

      Have you done the british gladiator? I dont seem to see a video about it from you if there is one

    • @pablosqra
      @pablosqra Год назад

      Hi, do You know why did Germans painted noses of BF 109 and FW190 yellow? I've read some possible explanaitions, but none give definitive answer

    • @jessehamm3573
      @jessehamm3573 Год назад

      I think the Fisher XP-75 Eagle might provide for a fascinating subject. Dubbed the "spare parts fighter", it was an oversized hybrid combining fuselage, tail, and wing sections from various different aircraft types. It suffered from horrible stability and reliability issues, and three of the 14 of the originally-constructed prototypes crashed during the evaluation phase. I remember visiting the research division of the National Museum of the USAF(where one of the P-75's is currently on display), and when the conversation turned to the Fisher Eagle, the historian quipped, "Oh, THAT piece of junk!"

    • @aabumble9954
      @aabumble9954 Год назад

      Could you please do a video on the much better known Gloster Meteor or the English Electric Canberra and the different versions of them?

    • @hungryhedgehog4201
      @hungryhedgehog4201 Год назад +1

      Could you do something on remote controlled turrets in WW2? It seems like there were quite a few but didnt seem to really catch on. The italians seem to have had quite a few.

  • @petesheppard1709
    @petesheppard1709 Год назад +31

    The words 'Hudson' and 'Ventura' kept intruding into my thoughts for some odd reason...I'm eagerly awaiting the video!!

  • @brittenmusic6923
    @brittenmusic6923 Год назад +154

    The most famous Lockheed Electra Junior? It is seen at the last scene of the classic film noir 'Cassablanca' where it shares the stage with Humphrey Bogart, Ingrid Bergman, Paul Henreid and Claude Rains. It deserved to win an Oscar. 🙂

    • @frankbarnwell____
      @frankbarnwell____ Год назад +5

      It was just a prop. Or 2. For the main plot, a way to Lisbon and freedom.

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 Год назад +12

      If you had a scaled-down RC model of this plane, would be an Electra Junior Junior?

    • @PaulMcElligott
      @PaulMcElligott Год назад +2

      @@frankbarnwell____Exactly. It was a scaled down prop, and the “crewmen” around the plane were little people in costume.

    • @richardsweeney197
      @richardsweeney197 Год назад +4

      Yes, I saw the fuselage of that plane in the Backlot at Disney's Hollywood Studios in Orlando a number of years ago. It was a full scale back then.

    • @JejetRC
      @JejetRC Год назад +3

      That Lockheed junior used to be a spy plane right before ww2 started. And then it changed hands a lot and ended up being in Casablanca. Then, some French people bought it and I got to work on it a little bit at WestCoast Air Creations.
      I don’t know where it ended up.

  • @wideyxyz2271
    @wideyxyz2271 Год назад +11

    A real tribute to its designers and engineers. Bravo Rex.

  • @brianedwards7142
    @brianedwards7142 Год назад +12

    An aircraft engineer called Cowling, what is this a Tintin book?

  • @chesspiece81
    @chesspiece81 Год назад +37

    I think Kelly Johnson was almost as important to aviation as the Wright Brothers.

    • @johnstuckaiii
      @johnstuckaiii Год назад +2

      He was far more important and influential.

    • @jimdavison4077
      @jimdavison4077 11 месяцев назад +1

      The Wright Brothers got so much wrong and flew 10 years after the first powered heavier than air flight in France. They do deserve a note in history but not near what they have.

  • @pigeonsimp7044
    @pigeonsimp7044 Год назад +9

    Can you please make a video about Polish bomber PZL.37 Łoś ?

  • @1954shadow
    @1954shadow Год назад +6

    The original Executive Aircraft?

  • @WAL_DC-6B
    @WAL_DC-6B Год назад +22

    I had the opportunity in 2022 to step inside the TWA, Electra Jr. (NC18137) on display in the hanger at the TWA museum at Kansas City downtown airport. I'm 6'-1" and it really wasn't a roomy cabin in my opinion. In fact, I felt a bit claustrophobic. Nonetheless, a pleasant looking aircraft especially in the late 1930s Transcontinental & Western Air livery. Excellent video on this subject and thanks for sharing!

  • @DouglasJenkins
    @DouglasJenkins Год назад +13

    Of course, the wingform and tail remind us of what will come in the P-38.

  • @johnforsyth7987
    @johnforsyth7987 Год назад +13

    Thank you so much for another very informative video. Looking forward to forward to your videos on the Hudson patrol bomber and especially the Beech Model 18. The Kansas Aviation Muesum may be helpful with information on vintage Beech and Cessna aircraft.

  • @sim.frischh9781
    @sim.frischh9781 Год назад +10

    Teases us with videos about nice planes that are coming up, Rex, you´re a MONSTER XD
    But yes, i have seen an Electra Junior in a couple of movies as well, i think one was used in 6 days 7 nights as well.
    Such a nice looking plane.

  • @brianedwards7142
    @brianedwards7142 Год назад +18

    I love the lightning bolt design in the paintwork. Handsome planes.

  • @itsjohndell
    @itsjohndell Год назад +27

    Hope you enjoyed RIAT. Don't if you are aware of it but the original Lockheed Air Terminal at KBUR is slated for destruction. LAT was located with the Lockheed production and was the major air terminus for Los Angeles up until the War when it became a restricted area due to Lockheed production of the P-38, Hudson and the first L-749 Constellations. Most Commercial flights switched to Meines Field, now KLAX. KBUR again has commercial but because of FAA regulations (Terminal 750 feet from run/taxi ways) LAT is to be completely demolished for new Termeni. It's a wrong decision as at least part of it should be Preserved. Good luck with the house and welcome to the joys of home ownership...you poor bastard...

    • @Pwj579
      @Pwj579 Год назад +5

      California has gone to hell, not surprised. The former MCAS El Toro is now a housing development. There is no appreciation of history or classic air fields.

    • @WarblesOnALot
      @WarblesOnALot Год назад

      @@Pwj579
      G'day,
      Nobody is manufacturing any
      New
      Land....
      And
      The flocks of Aeroplanes which
      Used to
      Fly in and out of old
      "Historic Aerodromes" are now in
      Museums, Scrapyards, or were
      Melted down years ago.
      So,
      "Real Estate Speculators"
      Buy up old disused Airfields and
      Do something else with the
      Land
      Which makes enough money to be able to
      Pay the Council Rates owing on the Land.
      Often, that's all it costs, to buy an Airport which doesn't break even on Revenue from Hangar Rent & Landing Fees versus Rates & Maintenance, Security & Insurance...
      Thus,
      Runways become Suburban
      Struggle Streets, full of dysfunctional Violent Brady Bunches, all trying to pay their Mortgages (Death + Measurement, in French...).
      Welcome to
      Harvest Everything-ism.
      Have a good one,
      Stay safe...
      ;-p
      Ciao !

    • @itsjohndell
      @itsjohndell Год назад +4

      @@Pwj579 They don't call it Lost Angeles for nothing. The new terminal has to be built or FAA will shut the field to commercial traffic.

  • @PaulMcKendrick
    @PaulMcKendrick Год назад +3

    Great stories. Thanks.

  • @metagoat1
    @metagoat1 Год назад +4

    i mean, some stuff is better small... they might have a better personality...

  • @tombogan03884
    @tombogan03884 Год назад +2

    Good luck with the move. 😁

  • @janlindtner305
    @janlindtner305 Год назад +9

    An exceptionally beautiful aircraft and one of my favourites. Thanks for the presentation.

  • @eottoe2001
    @eottoe2001 Год назад

    So nice I watched it twice. TY.

  • @towgod7985
    @towgod7985 Год назад +22

    Great video, and congratulations on the new place. Moving is a pain, but it sounds like a win / win for you. Cheers.

  • @stevenward3856
    @stevenward3856 Год назад +7

    I thoroughly enjoyed your video on the Electra Model 12. Looking forward to the variants later. In particular, the Hudson Patrol Bomber.

  • @typrus6377
    @typrus6377 Год назад +6

    Congrats on the house and best of luck with the move!

  • @jerridf322
    @jerridf322 Год назад +3

    2:22 "4.3 INCHES or 1.3 meters" Don't you hate it when you work hard to put out an excellent video...and you miss a few details? :) Great video, just poking fun......

    • @jsc3147
      @jsc3147 Год назад

      Glad someone else noticed that. And it's not a decimal-point-error issue either.

  • @omgdwayne1565
    @omgdwayne1565 Год назад +6

    This, along with the Beech Model 18, has to be one of the nicest-looking aircraft ever built. Really nice video.

    • @caseysmith544
      @caseysmith544 Год назад

      Beach model 18 was used in the movie Its a Mad Mad Mad Mad World that debuted in 1964. It was the Pirvate ariplane of a guy the two going for the Money (they were told about in beginning by the person who died after the wreak getting away from the police) woke up who was an alcoholic who on the plane had 1 to many drinks when the others were then temporary flying the plane then with a light hit to the head the pilot went down.

  • @narm_greyrunner
    @narm_greyrunner Год назад +4

    At first glance I thought this was a Beech model 18.

    • @davidbrennan660
      @davidbrennan660 Год назад +1

      I almost started to mix an “Old Fashioned 🥃”, the way dear old dad used to...... .
      One for the teenagers there... .

  • @angledwallaby
    @angledwallaby Год назад +1

    Shame you couldn't get to Flying Legends because one of the Electra Juniors actually flown by Sidney Cotton (G-AFTL, which looks like it could be the one pictured at 14:33) on his spy missions was at the show.

  • @jimdavis8391
    @jimdavis8391 Год назад

    What a looker eh? A deco era babe ❤❤❤

  • @Conn653
    @Conn653 Год назад +2

    How about a video of the Cessna "wooden wonder", the UC-78/T-50 Bamboo Bomber. It was used in military training as well as the TV show, Sky King 🙂

  • @womble321
    @womble321 Год назад +2

    One of the recon model 12s has been found in south America and still had it's camera bay. It's being restored to fly.

  • @alexripard
    @alexripard Год назад +3

    Congrats on the house! Been working on a flat to move into with my partner, exciting, but long (in my country delays are constant when it comes to new buildings)

  • @jwrappuhn71
    @jwrappuhn71 Год назад

    Excellent.

  • @RANDALLBRIGGS
    @RANDALLBRIGGS Год назад +1

    "Slightly shorter at 4.3 inches or 1.3 meters"? That doesn't make sense. You must mean "4.3 feet." But that doesn't make sense either, because the Model 12 was only 2 feet, 3 inches shorter than the Model 10. (36'4" vs. 38'7".)

  • @thomasmetz3
    @thomasmetz3 Год назад +3

    Beechcraft Model 18 was far more successful and prolific than the Lockheed Model 12. Beech 18’s were produced until 1970 with over 9000 built, compared to only 160 Model 12’s.

  • @mikmik9034
    @mikmik9034 Год назад +2

    Whenever I see small twin engines plaes like this I think of Sky King's first plane.

  • @rolanddutton
    @rolanddutton Год назад +2

    I'd love to see the Beechcraft Model 18 get the Rex treatment. A beautiful aircraft with a long and varied history. To top it off, it's also fully aerobatic.

  • @brettcoster4781
    @brettcoster4781 Год назад +3

    Good video, glad you mentioned Sidney Cotton's aircraft but I think a full episode could be done on him. Like him letting a senior Luftwaffe person pilot his plane while he surreptitiously and simultaneously, took photos of German airfields. And he later created the Photo-Reconnaissance part of the RAF (although was later kicked out of it).

    • @neiloflongbeck5705
      @neiloflongbeck5705 Год назад +1

      And don't forget his fashion line for pilots, the Sidcot suit.

  • @Forklift_Fella
    @Forklift_Fella Год назад +1

    I love your Ugliest Planes series! Please, please, PLEASE do "Top 10 ugliest Russia/Soviet Planes”.

  • @Rom3_29
    @Rom3_29 Год назад +2

    Congrats for the new place. Hopefully move goes well.

  • @grumpyoldfart1945
    @grumpyoldfart1945 Год назад +3

    Thanks for an excellent presentation. I hope that you will go forward with the “Burbank Bombers” and make presentations on the models 14, 18, Ventura, and Harpoon. The last three were quite popular in post war corporate aviation, especially the conversions by Howard, Lear, and Dal Aero.

  • @daszieher
    @daszieher Год назад +2

    If I had the money,
    this would be my ride.

  • @tonivazquez1081
    @tonivazquez1081 Год назад +1

    ehhh 4.3 inches is not 1.3 meters Rex. A small Slip.Is 0.13 meters or 13 cm.

  • @cartmanrlsusall
    @cartmanrlsusall Год назад +2

    The 747 sp was a similar downsizing for better performance

  • @WgCdrLuddite
    @WgCdrLuddite Год назад +1

    A length of 4.3 inches ! Truly astounding. Not as small as my models though. You made me wait 17 minutes before you mentioned the criminally underrated Hudson. But I'll let you off, you got there in the end.

  • @jayrussell9607
    @jayrussell9607 Год назад +2

    You never miss Rex always good vids!

  • @tomasinacovell4293
    @tomasinacovell4293 Год назад

    I'll never understand why they never used DC3 size engines and made a real fast version.

  • @aussiedrifter
    @aussiedrifter Год назад +1

    G'day Rex, Congratulations mate & I hope everything keeps going super well for you both, just listening to the happy excitement in your voice tone is very evident.
    Anyway mate all the best for the future & Im looking forward to your next episode, keep the blue side up till next time. Regards, Steve.

  • @JoséSette-z9h
    @JoséSette-z9h Год назад +1

    Very informative and enjoyable. If you need info about the Hudson (or any other military airplane) in Brazilian service, I would gladly help.

  • @drunio1504
    @drunio1504 Год назад +1

    Super job on this classic aircraft, thanks for a great documentary.

  • @loiclaronche5675
    @loiclaronche5675 Год назад +1

    What a classy line these aircrafts ! Thanks for your videos.

  • @crazypetec-130fe7
    @crazypetec-130fe7 Год назад

    If I could own one cabin twin and money was no object, that would be the one.

  • @afwalker1921
    @afwalker1921 Год назад +3

    Keep 'em coming!!!

  • @TeNBeeS7
    @TeNBeeS7 Год назад

    ALWAYS LOVED the Electra🥰 but eehh.. is it me but whats wrong with thr canopy at 0:28- on the 233-y the windshield just looks off or optical illu or open front windows??. and thanx for the info rich dokus you make

  • @johncmitchell4941
    @johncmitchell4941 Год назад

    Always admiring 12s and 10s this video has renewed my interest in the WWII Lockheed Hudson. I'll find or wait for Rex's video on it. Disclaimer: my top ten or twelve if not twenty favorite planes have (edit: two) wing-mounted engines, and most of them also have propellers.
    btw, Rex doesn't have an 'accent', I do. Just ask him. jon from the Midwest, USA 🙂

  • @davidg3944
    @davidg3944 3 месяца назад

    Already watched this, but it's back on my recommendations list a day after a crash of one of the few flying examples (two dead, unfortunately). Coincidence, or The Almighty Goog doing its thing?

  • @wintersbattleofbands1144
    @wintersbattleofbands1144 8 месяцев назад

    2:21. Sweetie, 4.3 inches is not equal to 1.3 meters. It's 51.18 inches. Proofread your script.

  • @drrocketman7794
    @drrocketman7794 Год назад +1

    Smaller, better, faster, harder, and our work is never over.

  • @peterjohnson6273
    @peterjohnson6273 Год назад +1

    Always enjoy your videos, Rex.

  • @paulsmodels
    @paulsmodels Год назад +2

    A rather cool little airplane!

  • @nauticalwolf6649
    @nauticalwolf6649 Год назад

    15:27 What is the black teardrop object on the top of the model 18? Great video as always. Also, congrats on the house!

  • @flymachine
    @flymachine 3 месяца назад

    Superb presentation! I always adored the classic lines, those twin rudders and bublous twin engines of the early lockheed twins, the firm really had a flair for the beautiful which they never lost - one can clearly see the lineage of the Ventura and Hudson in the Electra twins - very few types scream golden age like the a natural metal with red trim Electra

  • @e36s50b30
    @e36s50b30 Год назад

    Kinda funny to watch your video as I have just seen one taking off today (LSZR)

  • @neondystopian
    @neondystopian 8 месяцев назад

    The Electra Junior is, imo, one of those older planes that can still compete with today's modern prop aircraft.

  • @IamVF301
    @IamVF301 Год назад

    You should really cover the Yak-15 or Yak-23 fighters

  • @wintersbattleofbands1144
    @wintersbattleofbands1144 Год назад

    2:22. Sweetie, 4.3 inches is like 11 centimeters, not 1.3 meters. I think you must have meant 4.3 feet.

  • @simonevans343
    @simonevans343 9 месяцев назад

    Congrats on the house stuff. I know how excited you are about it as you used the word excited five times in one sentence 😂

  • @snicleniglo
    @snicleniglo Год назад +1

    i heard the click.

  • @MrBillGarland
    @MrBillGarland Год назад +2

    😊🇬🇧👍

  • @JohnnyWednesday
    @JohnnyWednesday Год назад

    You're a perfectly good plane! (runs off crying)

  • @nickmaguire4914
    @nickmaguire4914 Год назад

    Was that an Australian "VH" registered example?

  • @davidvavra9113
    @davidvavra9113 Год назад +2

    Thanks

  • @MatchingUser
    @MatchingUser Год назад +1

    YESSS

  • @stevenborham1584
    @stevenborham1584 Год назад

    That last Hudson image looked like a model with either Bristol Taurus or Hercules engines in place of the Wright R-1820's. The cowling is narrower and longer like it has twin row engines. The carbi air intake trunk looks very brittish too. Haven't read anywhere that this was developed for brittish Hudsons, would've made sense though. Edit: Sorry forgot about the Mk. VI's that used the R-1830's or the C-47 engines.

  • @wmrunjr
    @wmrunjr Год назад +2

    Thanks!

  • @typrus6377
    @typrus6377 Год назад +7

    4.3 inches?? My goodness, it's a Micro!
    In all seriousness, always good when your content drops.

    • @anewworld2693
      @anewworld2693 Год назад +5

      4.3 inches is average

    • @typrus6377
      @typrus6377 Год назад +2

      ​@anewworld2693 That might be a bit lacking to achieve the proper lift for this girl's MTOW haha

  • @infernoking7504
    @infernoking7504 Год назад

    #rex hanger can you do review on ww2 aircraft engines.

  • @otakubancho6655
    @otakubancho6655 Год назад

    I've always wondered what B.O.A.C. stood for until today,thank you very much for the sake of my sanity!👏👏👏

  • @Wolfe_Blue
    @Wolfe_Blue Год назад +1

    Hello

  • @tolik5929
    @tolik5929 Год назад

    Kind of like what happens , when you simply scale down a full size truck , to a small truck . You end up creating a vehicle , that is really not good for much of anything , with all the bad characteristics of the full size model . Bad gas milage , handles like junk , rides like a donkey , with the turning circle of an aircraft carrier .

  • @deckape714
    @deckape714 Год назад

    wait wait I gotta watch your first video on the electra

  • @arthurschipper8906
    @arthurschipper8906 Год назад

    Did Lockheed ever produce a not unpleasant to the eye aircraft? As big as the c5 is, it's pretty neat looking. And then there's the c141.

  • @rocksnot952
    @rocksnot952 Год назад

    I can never tell the difference between these and the Beech 18.

  • @billdurham8477
    @billdurham8477 Год назад

    Considering how Airbus made it's mark with twin engine widebody, they are making a killing with the MiniBuses

  • @Caseytify
    @Caseytify Год назад

    Good news about the house; hope it's a smooth move.

  • @edwinchandeck7231
    @edwinchandeck7231 Год назад

    Will be waiting for the video about the Boston. I agree with you, way better aircraft than have been given credit for and hugely unappreciated

  • @rickhobson3211
    @rickhobson3211 Год назад +1

    Excellent video!

  • @kevintemple245
    @kevintemple245 Год назад

    I got to ride in the dorsal turret of a Lockheed Hudson at a local air show in the 90s. I'd love if you'd do a video on it as I agree that it's a criminally underrated aircraft.

  • @LittleManFlying
    @LittleManFlying Год назад

    Congratulations on the new house!🎉

  • @Dan_Gyros
    @Dan_Gyros Год назад +1

    The Electra and Electra Jr. are two of the most beautiful looking planes ever made IMO

    • @davidgenie-ci5zl
      @davidgenie-ci5zl Год назад +1

      You can see a bit of an Electra in a Constellation. Simular features from same designers. Very stylish planes.

    • @davidgenie-ci5zl
      @davidgenie-ci5zl Год назад

      You can see a bit of an Electra in a Constellation. Simular features from same designers. Very stylish planes.

    • @davidgenie-ci5zl
      @davidgenie-ci5zl Год назад

      You can see a bit of an Electra in a Constellation. Simular features from same designers. Very stylish planes.

  • @chrisb.1116
    @chrisb.1116 Год назад +1

    Beautiful plane.

  • @janjager2906
    @janjager2906 Год назад

    Congratulations with your new house and the end of your LAT status!

  • @goojedooje660
    @goojedooje660 Год назад

    n a c New Zealand had these aircraft

  • @briangilbert3884
    @briangilbert3884 9 месяцев назад

    Congratulations on the house.

  • @rogerkay8603
    @rogerkay8603 Год назад

    Beautiful aircraft, loving your work Rex

  • @EdwardRLyons
    @EdwardRLyons Год назад +1

    Just a comment: NACA is not pronounced "nakka", it is spelled out: N.A.C.A., or, more correctly, "the N.A.C.A." It was never known as "nakka".

    • @ivanthemadvandal8435
      @ivanthemadvandal8435 Год назад +2

      It's pronounced that way all the time, just as its successor is commonly called NASA and rarely N.A.S.A.
      And even if you're completely correct (which you're not) who cares, if it's a big deal then make your own videos and pronounce it whatever way that pleases you.

    • @EdwardRLyons
      @EdwardRLyons Год назад

      From the horse's mouth, an it were (i.e. NASA).
      www.nasa.gov/ames/the-national-advisory-committee-for-aeronautics
      It is clear that the correct form has always been "The N.A.C.A", not "nakka". So it would be nice if future videos could use the correct pronounciation.

  • @rickblackwell6435
    @rickblackwell6435 Год назад

    Elegant, beautiful aircraft. Both of them.

  • @jillatherton4660
    @jillatherton4660 Год назад

    👍

  • @OmegaCorsair
    @OmegaCorsair Год назад

    Omg i literally saw this plane in London on flightradar

  • @daves2001
    @daves2001 Год назад +3

    Congratulations on the house!

  • @hamburgerofdoom
    @hamburgerofdoom Год назад

    Nice looking plane

  • @808bigisland
    @808bigisland Год назад

    A most aesthetically pleasing airplane.