Myrcella and Tommen are good kids. Mainly because Cersei spent all her time raising Joffrey that she didn't spend any time poisoning her other kids' minds. So, likely they were raised by servants, and are thus more humble and humane. They're not asking these questions out of malice, but of genuine curiosity and concern.
Just to add to your point (this is on top of your points, not instead of): I also think Myrcella was probably the one who tried to protect Tommen from Joffrey. Joffrey was, of course, a huge bully, so this would have increased Myrcella's protective instincts, and Tommen is the baby of the family and so that's the role he learned to fill. Also, I suspect Robert ignored them (they were younger, plus Myrcella is female, so they weren't as important), so they weren't subjected to Robert's disappointment like Joffrey was. They didn't have Joffrey's craving to be like Robert (but in all the worst ways).
9:07: "How is being a weakness a compliment?" What he should have said: "You are a weakness because I care about you and if anyone murders you, it would make me very sad. I think we can agree that you getting murdered would be bad for both of us." Also, yeah, Margaery Tyrell, as played by Natalie Dormer, is probably my favorite character in the whole series. Love her character and love Dormer in basically every role she's in.
Little character note about Theon: Theon is conflicted, but he's ultimately driven by his insecurities. His father withholds his love, so Theon is trying to earn it.
Tyrion marrying Myrcella off against Cersei's wish: Tyrion is the acting Hand of the King, and while technically the Hand is subservient to the King, the true power lies within Tywin Lannister and he was the one that gave the position to Tyrion. So, Tyrion's decrees while being the Hand, have the backing of Tywin Lannister. Especially because Tyrion's choices in his "spy trap setup" were really clever because all of the three alternatives were also smart and sensible as such. Any of them would have been approved and appreciated by Tywin. Regardless of who the snitch would have been, that marriage choice would have given Tywin a formidable ally. Joffrey may be the king and Cersei the queen regent but true power is in Tywin Lannister's hands.
Also Joffrey doesn't care about Myrcella, he would not disagree with his Hand to try and keep her in Kings Landing. He would just see the benefit of a new ally.
Samwell Tarly is one of exactly four actually wholesome characters I can think of, and of the other three one is mentally feeble and the others are small children. You are right to love Sam
I considered several others when thinking up my list, and ultimately decided that there's a difference between "good guy" and "wholesome." Jon is undoubtedly a good guy and is an excellent character, but he could in no way be considered wholesome. He breaks his vows, he murders, he does...other stuff I won't mention to avoid spoilers.
SPOILERS Edited to move this line farther down: Yes, she is Lady Brienne of Tarth. Her father is Lord Selwyn Tarth, the Evenstar of Tarth, the Sapphire Isle.
@@HuntingViolets My point was to point out something she missed based on what we learn in this episode . It's customary to not mention upcoming events.
@@abbesatty9498 SPOILERS You already said she was a high-born lady, which would mean she has the title of Lady, so I don't think I spoiled more than you did. I will move my spoiler tag up (this is how she has asked us to do spoilers, by putting the tag and then hitting enter a few times so it's not visible unless you hit read more), but I think you should also do this.
@@abbesatty9498 I didn't say it was spoilers. You seemed to be saying that I had spoiled something by saying that she was "Lady Brienne of Tarth," so I said, okay, I'll move it down then, but I think you already said as much as I did in that line, so if mine is a spoiler, I think that is too. The only thing I had originally spoiler tagged was who her father was (although I don't consider it particularly important, I don't think it was revealed yet).
Don't forget Brienne is a very tall woman. Arya on the other hand is short. It would probably be difficult for her to be same kind of warrior that Brienne is.
Regarding 'does Tyrion have that power' -- well, think of it diplomatically. If he's already been in contact with Dorne and arranged the exchange, then it's kind of past the point of no return. To then go back on the deal would look really strange to someone you are ostensibly trying to ally with and form an ongoing relationship. You might have to give up something physical, in addition to the political capital spent. Point is, even if Tywin listened to Cersei and wanted to terminate the deal, it would be at odds with his plans and goals because it would push away a great house for (to him) no real reason.
Buenas Tardes Morena de mis Amores 🥰 Don't forget Polliver (the one who used a needle to...) or Janos Slynt (the one who ended up with the Baratheon baby) many people forget but I don't think that's your case, you are very attentive and intelligent and will be good for you to enjoy yourself a lot further, ♥❄&🔥´♬
BOOK FUN/Answering questions: "Is Bran Magical?: Bran definitely is one of these beings(as you've seen). In the books, all the Starks are/may be. Sansa, sadly, loses Lady before this can be confirmed. Arya dreams through the eyes of Nymeria(who becomes wild and the head of a pack of common wolves thousands strong and fears nothing), Jon dreams through the eyes of Ghost at one point, while its suggested Robb is, but shuns this part of himself. Brienne is far uglier in the books, with big front teeth, freckles and more. They call her "Brienne the Beauty", but never to her face. The combat that Catelyn arrives at is a melee on horseback and Brienne beats everyone there(several of whom made a wager to claim her virginity and were pleasant to her only to gain her favor). The person who revealed it to her was Sam's father Randyll Tarly, so she felt indebted to him for it(despite him being a dick, believing a woman shouldn't be in armor). One of them, Ronnet Connington, was betrothed to her, but took one look at her face and gave her a rose, telling her that was all she would ever receive from him and ended the betrothal. Brienne knocked him flat in the melee. Renly's Kingsguard is named "the Rainbow Guard"in the books, with the knights within it taking colors of the rainbow(which is usually connected to the Faith of Seven). Stannis's own Maester thinks this silly colorful version is very much like something that Renly would choose. Most likely this was removed because it would be too on the nose(given Renly's leanings). Brienne's blue cloak was initially being held for Ser Barristan(the old knight that was removed from Joffrey's kingsguard), as he was said to be joining the one true king. Every major claimant in Westeros believes it to mean them. Renly takes a meandering journey to Kings Landing with his army, traveling and feasting in the Reach. Catelyn believes its so the different sides weaken each other so he has an easier go of conquest. Renly of the Books is much more of the fighter(having taken part in the Hands tourney, though he lost against the Hound). He wears bright green plate armor with golden antlers. He also reveals to her that Ned refused his wishes to overthrow Joffrey in favor of himself, which makes Catelyn resent him for abandoning Ned when he needed him. Theon names his own ship rather than Asha(his sister in the books). "A Lannister kid who's not a complete psychopath?" Joffrey is the worst of the children, as he's been coddled and brought up by Cersei and ignored by Robert(who himself thought of abandoning the Throne to become a sellsword in Essos, if it weren't for the thought of Joffrey being king with Cersei guiding him). Tommen is gentle and soft(and a bit more chubby in the books). Myrcella is sweet and courtly and absolutely unlike her mother. When Littlefinger demands Tyrion leave him out of his next deception, Tyrion thinks "As long as you leave me out of yours." , referring to Littlefinger's lie about the dagger sent to kill Bran being Tyrion's. When Pycelle is arrested, he reveals that he was the one who convinced the Mad King to open his gates for Tywin, as he had always been loyal to the Lannisters. He also got his whole beard shaved off by Shagga's axe, which left it wispy and unable to grow back properly after.
In the books, Mormont didn't know Crastor was sacrificing his sons to the white walkers, he thought Crastor was killing them as offerings to his gods or something, so it made some sense he was turning a blind eye to it. In this TV show, Mormont seems to know Crastor was giving them to the white walkers, so it makes little sense for Mormont to turn a blind eye to it knowing Crastor was supplying their great enemy. I feel like they should have stuck with the book version there, this version doesn't make a lot of sense for Lord Commander Mormont.
From what I recall, Benjen and all the Rangers knew as much and Jeor said that Craster has been the one thing keeping the Watch alive more than once, but if the women truly wanted to get rid of him, he's drunk and theres a new axe they had just gifted him that any one of them could turn on their cruel master and be done with it. Craster also lied and said he didn't know anything about the Others, while Gilly reveals its the opposite.
@@phousefilms What does the axe have to do with anything? I'm sure the women use knives & even hatchets on a regular basis. I'm sure they also know which plants are poisonous. Apparently the Rangers don't have any concept of how crippling life long abuse can be. It can bring about some really f*ed up behavior. One of the women could attack him only to be stopped by one or more of the other women, or even one of the children. It's not so simple or easy as they make it out to be. This is the only life they know. ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
Arya, Hendry and Pastel Caliente are taken to Harrenhal, that castle that was melted like wax, with the people inside, when Aegon arrived with his Dragons, just when the Lord of Harrenhal finished building the Castle with the blood of his workers. like slaves, that's why Cursed, there goes our beloved characters...
Myrcella and Tommen are good kids. Mainly because Cersei spent all her time raising Joffrey that she didn't spend any time poisoning her other kids' minds. So, likely they were raised by servants, and are thus more humble and humane. They're not asking these questions out of malice, but of genuine curiosity and concern.
Just to add to your point (this is on top of your points, not instead of): I also think Myrcella was probably the one who tried to protect Tommen from Joffrey. Joffrey was, of course, a huge bully, so this would have increased Myrcella's protective instincts, and Tommen is the baby of the family and so that's the role he learned to fill.
Also, I suspect Robert ignored them (they were younger, plus Myrcella is female, so they weren't as important), so they weren't subjected to Robert's disappointment like Joffrey was. They didn't have Joffrey's craving to be like Robert (but in all the worst ways).
@@Katerine459 Yes, Cersei and Robert were both huge influences on Joffrey.
No matter how many years go by and how many more highlights we see, the "Power resides" speech will forever be a Top 10 moment from this show.
Especially compare to the shit we get in season 5 on.
9:07: "How is being a weakness a compliment?"
What he should have said: "You are a weakness because I care about you and if anyone murders you, it would make me very sad. I think we can agree that you getting murdered would be bad for both of us."
Also, yeah, Margaery Tyrell, as played by Natalie Dormer, is probably my favorite character in the whole series. Love her character and love Dormer in basically every role she's in.
Yeah, sometimes Tyrion isn't so smart.
Little character note about Theon: Theon is conflicted, but he's ultimately driven by his insecurities. His father withholds his love, so Theon is trying to earn it.
Tyrion marrying Myrcella off against Cersei's wish: Tyrion is the acting Hand of the King, and while technically the Hand is subservient to the King, the true power lies within Tywin Lannister and he was the one that gave the position to Tyrion. So, Tyrion's decrees while being the Hand, have the backing of Tywin Lannister. Especially because Tyrion's choices in his "spy trap setup" were really clever because all of the three alternatives were also smart and sensible as such. Any of them would have been approved and appreciated by Tywin. Regardless of who the snitch would have been, that marriage choice would have given Tywin a formidable ally. Joffrey may be the king and Cersei the queen regent but true power is in Tywin Lannister's hands.
Also Joffrey doesn't care about Myrcella, he would not disagree with his Hand to try and keep her in Kings Landing. He would just see the benefit of a new ally.
I don't think Margaery is into incest. But getting Renly going without Loras is starting to seem like an insurmountable obstacle.
Baelon resents Theon because he’s a living reminder of his defeat.
I love when the tribesman looks around hoping to find goats.
"Well, MAKE DUE!"
See Margery knew the assignment, Rhaenyra should have been taking notes 😂
😂😂😂I know right
From the past....
Samwell Tarly is one of exactly four actually wholesome characters I can think of, and of the other three one is mentally feeble and the others are small children. You are right to love Sam
what about Jon Snow?
I considered several others when thinking up my list, and ultimately decided that there's a difference between "good guy" and "wholesome." Jon is undoubtedly a good guy and is an excellent character, but he could in no way be considered wholesome. He breaks his vows, he murders, he does...other stuff I won't mention to avoid spoilers.
@@Brandyalla SPOILERS
He murders? And Sam later breaks his vows too.
@@HuntingViolets
Spoiler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did you forget about S8 Ep6 ? ;-)
This show is what made briefness actress famous
Regarding Brianne, She's also a high born lady according to her title Brianne of Tarth.
EDIT: That is what Renly called her.
SPOILERS
Edited to move this line farther down: Yes, she is Lady Brienne of Tarth.
Her father is Lord Selwyn Tarth, the Evenstar of Tarth, the Sapphire Isle.
@@HuntingViolets My point was to point out something she missed based on what we learn in this episode . It's customary to not mention upcoming events.
@@abbesatty9498 SPOILERS
You already said she was a high-born lady, which would mean she has the title of Lady, so I don't think I spoiled more than you did. I will move my spoiler tag up (this is how she has asked us to do spoilers, by putting the tag and then hitting enter a few times so it's not visible unless you hit read more), but I think you should also do this.
@@HuntingViolets Renly already addressed her by her title "of tarth" which implies she's high born.
How that's spoilers?
@@abbesatty9498 I didn't say it was spoilers. You seemed to be saying that I had spoiled something by saying that she was "Lady Brienne of Tarth," so I said, okay, I'll move it down then, but I think you already said as much as I did in that line, so if mine is a spoiler, I think that is too. The only thing I had originally spoiler tagged was who her father was (although I don't consider it particularly important, I don't think it was revealed yet).
Don't forget Brienne is a very tall woman. Arya on the other hand is short. It would probably be difficult for her to be same kind of warrior that Brienne is.
Regarding 'does Tyrion have that power' -- well, think of it diplomatically. If he's already been in contact with Dorne and arranged the exchange, then it's kind of past the point of no return. To then go back on the deal would look really strange to someone you are ostensibly trying to ally with and form an ongoing relationship. You might have to give up something physical, in addition to the political capital spent. Point is, even if Tywin listened to Cersei and wanted to terminate the deal, it would be at odds with his plans and goals because it would push away a great house for (to him) no real reason.
Buenas Tardes Morena de mis Amores 🥰 Don't forget Polliver (the one who used a needle to...) or Janos Slynt (the one who ended up with the Baratheon baby) many people forget but I don't think that's your case, you are very attentive and intelligent and will be good for you to enjoy yourself a lot further, ♥❄&🔥´♬
I missed this reaction last week. Now I get two GoT reactions this week :)
Here's where it gets especially good...
Think about that Yoren died only for Arya, He had no reason to fight the gold cloaks otherwise.
Here we go!!
YAAAAAAAS HOUSE TYRELL 🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸 GROWING 🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸 STRONG 🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸
Brienne I love her😍
BOOK FUN/Answering questions:
"Is Bran Magical?:
Bran definitely is one of these beings(as you've seen). In the books, all the Starks are/may be. Sansa, sadly, loses Lady before this can be confirmed. Arya dreams through the eyes of Nymeria(who becomes wild and the head of a pack of common wolves thousands strong and fears nothing), Jon dreams through the eyes of Ghost at one point, while its suggested Robb is, but shuns this part of himself.
Brienne is far uglier in the books, with big front teeth, freckles and more. They call her "Brienne the Beauty", but never to her face.
The combat that Catelyn arrives at is a melee on horseback and Brienne beats everyone there(several of whom made a wager to claim her virginity and were pleasant to her only to gain her favor). The person who revealed it to her was Sam's father Randyll Tarly, so she felt indebted to him for it(despite him being a dick, believing a woman shouldn't be in armor). One of them, Ronnet Connington, was betrothed to her, but took one look at her face and gave her a rose, telling her that was all she would ever receive from him and ended the betrothal. Brienne knocked him flat in the melee.
Renly's Kingsguard is named "the Rainbow Guard"in the books, with the knights within it taking colors of the rainbow(which is usually connected to the Faith of Seven). Stannis's own Maester thinks this silly colorful version is very much like something that Renly would choose. Most likely this was removed because it would be too on the nose(given Renly's leanings).
Brienne's blue cloak was initially being held for Ser Barristan(the old knight that was removed from Joffrey's kingsguard), as he was said to be joining the one true king. Every major claimant in Westeros believes it to mean them.
Renly takes a meandering journey to Kings Landing with his army, traveling and feasting in the Reach. Catelyn believes its so the different sides weaken each other so he has an easier go of conquest.
Renly of the Books is much more of the fighter(having taken part in the Hands tourney, though he lost against the Hound). He wears bright green plate armor with golden antlers. He also reveals to her that Ned refused his wishes to overthrow Joffrey in favor of himself, which makes Catelyn resent him for abandoning Ned when he needed him.
Theon names his own ship rather than Asha(his sister in the books).
"A Lannister kid who's not a complete psychopath?" Joffrey is the worst of the children, as he's been coddled and brought up by Cersei and ignored by Robert(who himself thought of abandoning the Throne to become a sellsword in Essos, if it weren't for the thought of Joffrey being king with Cersei guiding him). Tommen is gentle and soft(and a bit more chubby in the books). Myrcella is sweet and courtly and absolutely unlike her mother.
When Littlefinger demands Tyrion leave him out of his next deception, Tyrion thinks "As long as you leave me out of yours." , referring to Littlefinger's lie about the dagger sent to kill Bran being Tyrion's.
When Pycelle is arrested, he reveals that he was the one who convinced the Mad King to open his gates for Tywin, as he had always been loyal to the Lannisters. He also got his whole beard shaved off by Shagga's axe, which left it wispy and unable to grow back properly after.
None of them is loyal to Tyrion, though. :)
I've always taken it as finding out who's loyal to his sister. Who is keeping her informed. ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
Yeah, can't really root for Pycelle's "manhood" to be chopped off (or anyone's).
In the books, Mormont didn't know Crastor was sacrificing his sons to the white walkers, he thought Crastor was killing them as offerings to his gods or something, so it made some sense he was turning a blind eye to it. In this TV show, Mormont seems to know Crastor was giving them to the white walkers, so it makes little sense for Mormont to turn a blind eye to it knowing Crastor was supplying their great enemy.
I feel like they should have stuck with the book version there, this version doesn't make a lot of sense for Lord Commander Mormont.
From what I recall, Benjen and all the Rangers knew as much and Jeor said that Craster has been the one thing keeping the Watch alive more than once, but if the women truly wanted to get rid of him, he's drunk and theres a new axe they had just gifted him that any one of them could turn on their cruel master and be done with it.
Craster also lied and said he didn't know anything about the Others, while Gilly reveals its the opposite.
@@phousefilms What does the axe have to do with anything? I'm sure the women use knives & even hatchets on a regular basis. I'm sure they also know which plants are poisonous. Apparently the Rangers don't have any concept of how crippling life long abuse can be. It can bring about some really f*ed up behavior. One of the women could attack him only to be stopped by one or more of the other women, or even one of the children. It's not so simple or easy as they make it out to be. This is the only life they know. ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
Arya, Hendry and Pastel Caliente are taken to Harrenhal, that castle that was melted like wax, with the people inside, when Aegon arrived with his Dragons, just when the Lord of Harrenhal finished building the Castle with the blood of his workers. like slaves, that's why Cursed, there goes our beloved characters...
I can't help but feel Pycell got screwed over, he was told a secret that was actually true. Anyone could have spilled the beans.
A bit of Margaery got past the censor at 13:20. 🫣 Don't want to bring the wrath of the RUclips gods upon us.
I just wanted to confirm. I checked and concur.
Thanks for letting me know. I did my best trying to fix it through youtube’s editing software. Should hopefully be fixed in a few hours
@@TheLexiCrowd 13:52 and onwards as well, you can see a tiny nipple here and there.