Surviving Winter Off the Grid. How we Shower, Use Solar, and get Water while bedroom work continues

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  • Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
  • Surviving Winter Off Grid can be Challenging. Solar, Showers, and how we use a generator to help during this difficult time of year. Join us for a Winter day at the Off Grid Cabin.
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Комментарии • 184

  • @jerrystout3032
    @jerrystout3032 Год назад +2

    Salute to you for raising Old Glory. I have not seen Anyone else on these 1,000's of YOU TUBERS!!!!do that!!!irritated ME!!!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад +1

      I have heard other channels say having the flag in your videos hurts your channel. That RUclips doesn't like it, not sure if it is true, but I refuse to alter my ways to fit in. Best wishes my friend.

  • @cindabuss5028
    @cindabuss5028 Год назад +7

    No way. 2 pots of warm water on stove. One to soap up and one to rinse off with wash cloth. Dry shampoo for hair. Would be way to cold for me outside. That shower would have been done months ago. Lol

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад +1

      Lol, I'm trying to get it done, my friend. I've been busy with other on grid stuff, keeping me from getting her done.

    • @rosaolbera8768
      @rosaolbera8768 Год назад

      Awesome video hope you are both doing well that Snow looks beautiful stay warm outthere Rosa olbera

  • @dolores34
    @dolores34 Год назад +3

    Boss of the swamp, loves Bubble Foil, has a video about it 🙂

  • @cindyfeh
    @cindyfeh Год назад +1

    POO POO ON DRYWALL......Wood all the way.....I agreeeeeeee😀😀😀

  • @gracelomas9548
    @gracelomas9548 Год назад +2

    Hope to see yous to night guys👍

  • @irenel.m.3238
    @irenel.m.3238 Год назад +1

    Brrr cold 🥶that bedroom is turning out very nice 🥰

  • @Alltarious
    @Alltarious Год назад +2

    every day is a step closer to a shower in doors!

  • @brendahogue5487
    @brendahogue5487 Год назад +2

    May the Lord bless and protect you and Jen

  • @Ocheecheenay
    @Ocheecheenay 16 дней назад

    Sounds like it's time for a small wind generator my friend

  • @SueLewisBuffalo
    @SueLewisBuffalo Год назад +1

    You're good. I'd be showering in the spring. Sink wash till then. That's brutal!

  • @franciscopandohidalgo8205
    @franciscopandohidalgo8205 Год назад

    greetings guys to warm up in a good fireplace greetings 🇪🇸👍🇺🇲Greetings from Madrid

  • @sandrawray542
    @sandrawray542 8 месяцев назад

    The wind is whispering to the trees lol ...

  • @pandu8904
    @pandu8904 Год назад

    I'm loving the scenery shots in the beginning🥳🥰

  • @joebeecher3919
    @joebeecher3919 Год назад

    You shoud check out the off grid shower surviving ringworm uses.....

  • @jefflocke9029
    @jefflocke9029 Год назад +2

    Salute, I'd say you are a Veteran Jay.

  • @marthaturki4891
    @marthaturki4891 Год назад

    Ya gotta do what ya gotta do! Want be for much longer. Everything is coming together beautifully!😍

  • @kenbaker6177
    @kenbaker6177 Год назад

    You should add a wind generator for the winter

  • @ericbroussard4310
    @ericbroussard4310 Год назад

    Hello good, the bedroom is almost finished 👍. Good journey for you and take care you. 👍🙏

  • @lovettlovett9462
    @lovettlovett9462 8 месяцев назад

    How I love seeing Old Glory
    Our America the Beautiful
    FLAG 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @littlehillsidehomestead6362
    @littlehillsidehomestead6362 Год назад

    Good morning and thank you for sharing!

  • @nancyholston6746
    @nancyholston6746 Год назад

    The walls look amazing! Great job!

  • @LeverActionLarry
    @LeverActionLarry Год назад

    Exciting!! I think the furniture layout is a good use of space.

  • @ZIL68
    @ZIL68 Год назад

    Doing great! Love the walls and ceiling!
    Be safe! 💜 from VA!

  • @maureenhobbs4163
    @maureenhobbs4163 Год назад

    Looking good can't wait to see the finish beautiful Beautiful 😍 💕

  • @sylviamayo379
    @sylviamayo379 Год назад

    All some job as always love watching you guys.🥰🥰🥰🥰

  • @name-ey5it
    @name-ey5it Год назад

    Happy valentines

  • @BearfootAdventures
    @BearfootAdventures Год назад

    That’s a mountain man breakfast 😊

  • @edwardestes8038
    @edwardestes8038 Год назад +1

    Hope that flag was made in America.....there are so many manufacturers that are made in the C word

  • @travisgrow4713
    @travisgrow4713 Год назад

    Looking good

  • @brendafarrow3117
    @brendafarrow3117 Год назад +1

    Why not get small wind turbine ? It would charge your battery’s all night & when there’s no solar power. Up on that hill there has to be a good updraft . Thank you & Good Luck

  • @keithfrench5626
    @keithfrench5626 Год назад

    Great Job! you did good. Stay Warm.

  • @name-ey5it
    @name-ey5it Год назад

    Jay and Jen, I did want to say something, you guys are of best on RUclips some people on off grid I have take off my subscription lessons. If you look at some off them , they are useing there body just to get people to subscription on there channel. This is wrong RUclips should smart up. I feel they should take these people off RUclips. You guys are great 👍 👌 ❤ 👏.

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад

      Thank you for appreciating that, it is hard to see others getting more attention than us due to using sexy thumbnails, but we are trying our best to keep things family friendly here, lol. Appreciate you being here my friend

  • @helenascott389
    @helenascott389 Год назад

    Blimey you are both so brave, hope you don’t get frost bite on the bits!!!! 🐶🇬🇧x

  • @funtyes1970
    @funtyes1970 Год назад

    i never take a show outside in that cold and wind . take a wash cloth bath before taking a shower in that very windy cold lol.

  • @SandraVanLankvelt
    @SandraVanLankvelt Год назад

    Wow Jay now that's a combination I have never seen someone outside in shorts and snow boots LOLOL Well yah know there now that's how they dress in them thar hills huh??? LOLOL FANTASTIC PROGRESS HOLY COW IT IS BEAUTIFUL!!! Way to gooooooo JAY!!! God bless you ALL.

  • @cherylstark99
    @cherylstark99 Год назад

    That's NUTS!!! no way it would be sponge Bob time. And wash hair in the sink.

  • @bradhugo8973
    @bradhugo8973 Год назад

    Wow 6 eggs for breakfast!! Tell me your rich without telling me your rich!! 😂😂 Great job on the bedroom!!

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад +1

      Ha.....love that. I seriously laughed and read that to a friend It made me giggle. Lol

  • @laruedouglas7972
    @laruedouglas7972 Год назад +1

    It is looking so good 🥰. I would just wash up good in the kitchen, not outside 🥶.

  • @joebeecher3919
    @joebeecher3919 Год назад

    I thought you might be adding visuals like some that come in my feed. I agree keep it clean.... visually and body wise.

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад

      Thanks buddy........not going the dirty route until there is no other choice, ha ha

  • @MelissaMalzahn
    @MelissaMalzahn Год назад +1

    The bedroom looks great. I like the tongue and groove too.

  • @hansjrgenkristensen4034
    @hansjrgenkristensen4034 Год назад

    Cons. solar panels in winter a straith ice shovel is good for removing ice, then a brush can easyli remove the rest.

  • @sandrawray542
    @sandrawray542 8 месяцев назад

    good job guys!

  • @bjornsoderlund8123
    @bjornsoderlund8123 Год назад

    Dont miss the superbowl this weekend mr 😍☺️😊

  • @campbelleoffgrid
    @campbelleoffgrid Год назад

    Jay, hearty looking breakfast! Currently researching solar options ourselves...lots of options to consider.

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад

      Heck ya guys.....all kinds of options. Keep looking and keep learning

  • @gracelomas9548
    @gracelomas9548 Год назад +1

    Yous guys have done a lot 👍

  • @wobdeehomestead
    @wobdeehomestead Год назад

    No sun here either until recently. Used my genny way too much this year to charge my battery bank. This spring I’m upgrading to lithium.

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад +1

      Ya it is weird, last year was doable.....but not this year. Upgrades coming this year for sure.

  • @davidpatrick1813
    @davidpatrick1813 Год назад

    I have some great economical 12V lighting ... my little cabin is dual voltage, several fuel .. wood, etc.

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад +1

      Nice....I was trying to keep the cabin simple and only use AC so I didn't have to mess with multiple systems, but maybe some 12volt would have helped us in the long run.

    • @davidpatrick1813
      @davidpatrick1813 Год назад +1

      @@OffgridwithJayandJen I monitor things as I build and develop things. i want to run 12V for as long as I can and still be frugal with it. ... as if there was no power available or being "off grid". Thus storage of volts/amps is most important. The log runs to the house/cabin from the batteries has much voltage drop. It is more efficient to have the lifepo4 right next to or in an area of the cabin and run the solar wires the distance. If you almost live without using voltages/amps ...in testing, then you can add the extra slowly. I could run hot plate lets say but if I have wood stove and heat it makes (for winter cold) then I don't use the amps in the battery for that cook job .... I make it more or less a game and IF by chance there is a long term without fuel or electric power (which I have some i.e. well pump (but have three back up plans for that to develop)) if all power goes down for months I should still be able to be warm, cook and read 🙂 I think you are doing a neat job with all your working with... Oh, I have a restoring of an old RV so it is full self contain too... soooo have more than one place to sustain...

  • @dennismartin5409
    @dennismartin5409 Год назад +1

    As always, great looking progress....I agree on the drywall, leave that *$&% for the people that do it every day. They are much faster. The T&G is the way to go in a cabin anyway.. no drywall cracking in the joints from the cold and warm temperature deviations.Your cabin is looking great!

    • @funtyes1970
      @funtyes1970 Год назад

      i dont do drywall everday and i dont think drywall is that bad , i think it pretty easy

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад +1

      Easy maybe....but messy, and takes multiple days to complete. Hang, mud, let dry, sand, primer, paint. Just lots of extra steps

  • @jenateer2518
    @jenateer2518 Год назад

    Wash cloth baths until the shower is done. 😮

  • @billg8677
    @billg8677 Год назад +3

    Jens laugh about the off grid shower summed it all up. It’s looking good. Instead of square I kinda like levelish. Again your both so enjoyable and that’s why the vids are so great. As always May Peace Health and Happiness follow you and yours

  • @josefreck1103
    @josefreck1103 Год назад

    Super gemacht 👍😊🤗😁

  • @lindadaffin4221
    @lindadaffin4221 Год назад

    O my goodness 😳🫣😲🥶… showers outside in the cold WOW!!!!! Yikes !!!!! Hope you get your shower done soon 🤦🏼‍♀️😱

  • @mrdio4625
    @mrdio4625 Год назад +1

    Nope I draw the line at taking a bath outside. No indoor bath to me is a unlivable house LOL

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад

      Lol.....I have to make Jen rough it a while, that way she truly appreciates the indoor bathroom, ha ha

  • @jackiegluszczyk8369
    @jackiegluszczyk8369 Год назад +1

    Jay you are really knocking that wall boards out of the park. It's looking good. I love your guys videos makes me back to the farm house in Bark River when I was a little girl.

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад

      Thanks Jackie......love that our videos do that for ya. Good stuff. 😊👍

  • @carson2646
    @carson2646 Год назад

    I would have to be awfully stinky to take a shower in that weather. My wife is from Traverse City and that northern Michigan weather is a different kind of cold

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад

      Lol....it was less than ideal for sure, ha ha. Northern Michigan doesn't mess around

  • @angelag8196
    @angelag8196 Год назад +1

    Hi guy's 🥰 bet u wish that work had went that fast lol Looks really nice. Love the music u put in there so many put in elevator music 🤣 By the way I don't like being square 😁

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад

      Ha ha.....ya I need to make the projects go that fast in real life....that way we would be done by now. Lol. So happy to hear you like my music inserts......some don't like them, but do. Best wishes

  • @AccordingToGoat
    @AccordingToGoat Год назад

    My Saturday is complete, I guess I can go back to bed now.
    Who do you have in the Super Bowl tomorrow?

  • @cchambers8632
    @cchambers8632 Год назад +3

    In the beginning as you are talking about using your generator, I notice the conifer near the battery shed blowing in the wind. Then when you start to cut boards the camera is blown over. One can see the deciduous trees, without leaves, also blowing in the wind. Would a wind generator help supplement your solar power system at least during the Winter?

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад +1

      Yes I would. I think we are going to make a serious point of getting one before next winter.....I didn't think we needed one, but this winter is proving me wrong

  • @nourltuber
    @nourltuber Год назад

    I just might stink for another day before I do that crazy a$$ crap!🫢 The bedroom is coming along very nice! Nice new 🇺🇲!!! Stay warm y'all! 🐕🐕🪵🪓🏚️👍

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад +1

      Lol....ya Jen picked the wrong day to shower. I took one the day before out the front and it was chilly but no wind....not too bad, lol

  • @ineverhadthemoney7857
    @ineverhadthemoney7857 Год назад

    hi add more solar ele. panels

  • @mikemckinley1031
    @mikemckinley1031 Год назад

    And I thought you would’ve had that bedroom done already what’s taking you so long ha ha just joking I hope you’re in a good mood when you read this one scout really likes to bug timber you will get a nice belly rub so you guys have a good week and weekend be safe out there you’re from Ontario Canada❤️❤️❤️🇨🇦🇨🇦😎

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад

      Hey thanks buddy......these projects drag on and one some times man.....being pokey about it, lol

  • @justiceleague1146
    @justiceleague1146 Год назад +1

    Great job on the tongue and groove! The cabin is looking great.

  • @robs9023
    @robs9023 Год назад +1

    Got to say I felt a bit vulnerable following you out to the shower Jay!
    Another fun video. You two always make us feel a bit happier so thanks!

  • @stephaniedeegan853
    @stephaniedeegan853 Год назад

    Wind turbines have come along way. Some are very compact and even have ones that look like trees.😊

  • @coolwheelz5190
    @coolwheelz5190 Год назад

    Years ago, when I finished off the room in my basement for my home office, I did tongue and grove on the walls. It may not be a cabin, but it least it has the feel, it's cozy and I get a lot of work done. I love it! I couldn't imagine having sheet rock in that room.

  • @spyderskipper
    @spyderskipper Год назад

    Hey guys...wife and I love the videos of you two and the pups! Hats off to what you two have accomplished!

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад +1

      Awe....thanks you two. Big smiles to hear that you both enjoy watching. Thank you so much. 😊😊😊

  • @BS.-.-
    @BS.-.- Год назад

    10a input via the generator is prety darn low, especially with how big your battery bank is. Have you thought about adding a second 120v charger? At 10a it may take 8+hrs of running your generator to get any real charge into those batteries. Running the generator may seam fine now because your still in construction mode but is really going to suck hearing it when your not.

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад

      Ya that is why I was saying I need a bigger manual charger.....last year we didn't need to use the genny much so I thought this year would be the same, but pumping more juice in there would work better like you said.

  • @edwardestes8038
    @edwardestes8038 Год назад +1

    Hey.....um....i have been celebrating something that i can't remember what....hold on....let me pop another beer.....burp.....oh make sure you guys are using......hold on....i need another beer.....was that want i when its yeller.....hiccup...burp.....hold on a sec. um yeah......ooops ...spilled my beer.Asint youf splonged enuff nails in that....hold on.....another ,...hiccup....beer.The Vikings won the world cup.lol

  • @elizabethvega1153
    @elizabethvega1153 Год назад

    You guys are doing a great job! Your pups are beautiful 🐕!

  • @donnavickery9623
    @donnavickery9623 Год назад

    The bedroom is looking good !!!

  • @paranoidboyscout1776
    @paranoidboyscout1776 Год назад

    Seems like you get a decent amount wind ever thought of getting a windmill?

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад +1

      Trying to lock down a sponsorship before winter.....if it doesn't work out we may just buy one to help us out

  • @SJC49
    @SJC49 Год назад

    Bedroom is looking great. It looks like the room is looking brighter with the tongue and groove. Showering looks challenging but what a great feeling when you run back inside!

  • @vickybentley3949
    @vickybentley3949 Год назад

    Always enjoy watching you and Jens videos, the bedroom looks great xxx

  • @SueLewisBuffalo
    @SueLewisBuffalo Год назад

    Bedroom looks great!

  • @anneduke5694
    @anneduke5694 Год назад

    Great video. Love Jen's laugh.

  • @tenneyconstruction7323
    @tenneyconstruction7323 Год назад

    Looking Good!!!

  • @sandypratt8951
    @sandypratt8951 Год назад +1

    ❤️☃️👍👍👍

  • @lauraquigley6403
    @lauraquigley6403 Год назад

    Hi Jay & Jen! Lol a lil cold to be outside in shorts huh.. but I noticed you put your hoody up 😂. The bedroom & shower look great! I still am amazed that I was here since the beginning and you have all added a bedroom & a shower. Here in Northern N J we have had no snow removal and we usually get plowed 5 times a week. The temperatures have been wonderful too. I usually go to Fl 3 times in the winter and have gone once. It has been 57 degrees here this week. So much for the farmers almanac predicting the worse winter that didn’t happen. Enjoy your beautiful cabin and scenery & thanks for bringing us along!🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻Blessings

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад +1

      Lol, ya Laura....that morning outing took a little longer than it should have.....shorts not a good idea, lol. Ya the Temps have been back and forth here as well. Snow storm brings snow then it melts away a few days later. Lots of love my friend

  • @juliederry3719
    @juliederry3719 Год назад

    Aww c’mon guys where’s my breakfast? lol, it looks delicious, Jen looks so tiny when she was standing in the shower, the bedroom is looking really nice too and having lamps instead of a light on the ceiling is more cosy, and that wind omg, is Jen really going to have a shower in that 🥶🥶🥶, tfs x Julie 🇬🇧

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад

      We will make sure to make you a plate next time my friend, lol. Jen did shower out there......😂🤣

  • @cindymayo5700
    @cindymayo5700 Год назад

    Bedroom is coming along great, guys! Looks really good! Hope Jen didn't turn into an icicle while showering!! It's going to feel like luxury when your indoor shower is done! 👍🚿👍
    Thanks for keeping us updated so well on everything! I love the flag!!! God bless America & you both also!
    😊☃️🇺🇸👏👏

  • @anietahurler4014
    @anietahurler4014 Год назад

    was ein Sturm Wowwwwwww

  • @welderman1221
    @welderman1221 Год назад

    Jay, Im sure you know you need to keep the p traps from freezing under cabin. Insulating ONLY that area will not guarantee no freeze.

  • @mbuck5044
    @mbuck5044 Год назад

    Great job Jen and Jay, the bedroom look terrific!

  • @kyraacher3047
    @kyraacher3047 Год назад

    Lol poor jen

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад +1

      She should have married that rich good looking guy from high-school, lol. Instead she got off grid Jay

  • @mikemckinley1031
    @mikemckinley1031 Год назад +1

    You guys are nuts having a shower outside in this kind of weather no thank you

  • @canajian
    @canajian Год назад +1

    👋😎👍

  • @kristingrounds4163
    @kristingrounds4163 Год назад

    Bedroom is coming along beautifully!!! Looking forward to when you finish that room then everything will pretty much be done inside the cabin right?

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад

      We are excited too Kristin, we have lots of finishing touches and trim to do inside but getting closer to done for sure. 😊👍

  • @jboog1971
    @jboog1971 Год назад

    Guys the bedroom is looking awesome 😎 and I don’t know if I could deal with that outside shower and the wind blowing like that 😂keep on keeping on

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад

      Thanks SR

    • @jboog1971
      @jboog1971 Год назад

      By the way this is JBoog lol just changed my name

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад +1

      @Scorpion Ridge hey buddy, thanks for telling me. I would have scratched my head next time I saw your comments and saw your membership star by your name....lol. love the new avatar/pic too. 😊

  • @sshaw9046
    @sshaw9046 Год назад

    Jay what are you guys going to do with the loft

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад

      Guest quarters and storage. We actually were talking a couple stair case options a day such thr other day to try and make things more convenient. But that might have to wait until next winter.

  • @johnklenzak1001
    @johnklenzak1001 Год назад

    Jay, I am sure that you already know that you SHOULD NOT install voltage lines within 4 feet of any water. In your case, the wall that faces the bed and is the wall oposite the shower is an OK wall to put power too. Do not put AC or DC power anywhere around your AC or DC voltage. It is the AMPS that will kill you.

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад

      Good advice my friend. I'm doing all exposed copper water lines i think, and on opposite side of the bathroom. But I will be safe, thank you

  • @funtyes1970
    @funtyes1970 Год назад

    i dont know much about solar system but i watch some youtuber have off grid cabin and they got pretty sweet solar system i dont know what kind solar batteries he have but he said he couldn't get his batteries below 40'F. i think his batteries cost him $1700 for one battery and he have 6 batteries i think his solar system cost him $30k or more. i guess jay solar batteries can get cold

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад

      Ya Dave, the fancy lithium batteries don't work below freezing. These lead acid, old technology, batteries work in colder Temps, but don't last as long.

  • @DimensionalHorse
    @DimensionalHorse Год назад

    👏💜

  • @LoriDawn327
    @LoriDawn327 Год назад

    I didn’t see any info about showering and dealing with water

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад

      Watch until the end. You can see the set up we used to take a shower.

  • @anietahurler4014
    @anietahurler4014 Год назад

    sieht gut aus kommst nach Deutschland bauen wir mir ein Häuschen

  • @anietahurler4014
    @anietahurler4014 Год назад

    ´Bett ab´n die hinteren wand sieht besser aus

  • @MILife45
    @MILife45 Год назад

    Shorts?! 😆

    • @OffgridwithJayandJen
      @OffgridwithJayandJen  Год назад

      Gotta be comfy when clearing snow off the panels and hanging old glory, lol

    • @MILife45
      @MILife45 Год назад

      @@OffgridwithJayandJen true!! 😆

  • @mortenmyhrmoen7592
    @mortenmyhrmoen7592 Год назад

    🇳🇴👍👍👌

  • @robertboyd3898
    @robertboyd3898 Год назад

    U won’t loose weight with the breakfast you make……..

  • @nikos8984
    @nikos8984 Год назад

    Hi, Services for security cameras,PLEASE check the email

  • @anietahurler4014
    @anietahurler4014 Год назад

    Nicht gut das Frühstück für mich mein Frühstück ist Dunkles Brot 5 Gramm Butter Marmelade 5 Gramm und ein weich gekochtes Ei Eine große Tasse Kaffee mit Milch und Honig