I literally came to the comments specifically to mention what a missed opportunity that was lol.. I'd like to think it was a clever tactic on Chris' part to trigger engagement in the comments and not me just being old enough to remember brokeback mountain 😂😂
"I'm not gay. Like, I'm super not gay, obviously. It's just that my attraction to men dominates every conversation I have, every activity I do, and my circle of friends. But like, in the straightest way possible."
Call me crazy but I think to the wife him messing with other guys is bad, but him messing with another woman would be horrible. And at least she never has to worry about that. Ever. Which is a strange kind of security.....
My first ex husband is or was Mormon and his parents are very Mormon . Anyway yeah it’s a Wild ride! I was always the black sheep but 1,000% while I was married to that man .
It's actually quite sad how brainwashed these poor people are that even when they see things that counter their beliefs, not to worry, we got something to explain that away and make it godly again. They are stuck in a loop with themselves and their religion contrasting questioning their ideals, then reaffirming them again
This is just gross & it's so sad that society has gotten so far from God that this is even remotely acceptable 🙁 That's nowhere close to acceptable in any religion that I believe in.
I’m bi and have been monogamously married to one person of one gender for 25 years, and it’s surprisingly not difficult to avoid public perving on people of other genders or having sleepovers with them that “get out of hand” 🤷🏻♀️
well as we all know people of any other sexuality other than straight are immediately critcized for being more promiscuous, as if there isn't a literal epidemic of straight married men cheating on their partners like the world is going to end...
i feel bad for everyone involved here. when i was a teenager my parents divorced because my dad came out. i was mostly just puzzled by the whole thing at first. now, i’m glad they didn’t try to stick it out and create some kind of weird resentment. they’re besties now lol and we still have holidays all together. i hope these people figured something out since they filmed this.
I swear I remember as a kid, maybe at five or six, that TLC was ACTUALLY a learning channel. I thought I watched that channel whenever I stayed home from school because I was sick, and it for sure wasn't this nonsense.
@@incredibleflameboy "What? No! When I said I love cocks I meant COURTNEY Cox! Na na nana, na-na-na na naa! (claps four times)" - Brigham Young possibly
Oh they are definitely not that good at it lol sex us fine it's not that complicated to fit the parts together buy actually being gay they absolutely suck at it lmao I've been with quite a few I literally made them leave as soon as we were finished if they lingered it would become a therapy session not attractive
"I had some men spend the night and things got a little out of hand". Referred to it as "the Incident", and asking him if he remembers. I guarantee you he's not forgetting it. It will be one of those things he remembers on his deathbed fondly, and maybe a camping trip. XD
@@CosmicEpiphany Durag isn't the "ghetto" term for a bandana. It's just the name of a unique type of accessory. Course I'm sure next you'll tell me you call shirts "chemisettes" and pants "britches".
@@JohnSmith-bw6pv "i never seen this guy before" Word of advice, do not admit that you are unfamiliar with someone immediately after making a sweeping statement about them.
I use to date a Mormon girl and her parents were extremely odd. I have a feeling these women ignored tons of red flags just to be married. I’m 1000% sure of it
@ but alcoholism and gambling is ok? Both her parents were booze hounds and the dad spent more time at Mohegan Sun than at home. That’s ok I guess just don’t get divorced. God will be mad. You can drink yourself re. Tar dEd just don’t get divorced
I used to be a part of a “ministry” for men and women who “struggled with same sex attraction” called Live Hope. It was very Baptist/Christian based it was one of the saddest groups of people I ever met in my life. There was always this longing in each of us to connect with each other on a deeper level, but this insane guilt and shame that we felt for wanting that. Many of us are now happily out and proud.
So sorry you guys went through that. Life is already hard enough, I can’t imagine adding that on top of it. I wish no one ever had to feel like that 🤦♀️
Bi erasure is so real and hurtful. Even the lgbtqia+ community often minimizes bi struggles and representation. The stupid jokes about pansexuals just being sluts. And that's from the Alphabet Crew, peers who are supposed to understand. It's really stupid sometimes
Off the subject on more about technique: your editing - back and forth between the video and your intermittent comments - was *perfect* . This isn't always the case on youtube videos, where the commentary interrupts the subject at hand for too long (and too often!) and becomes absolutely MADDENING to watch! So bravo for that, and - by th way - the topic and coverage!
No, definitely not! Thankfully, blessedly, their wives are the one single woman in the would that they're attracted to! Isn't that convenient? Phew! 😂🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@Supermoneygang12 They could be married to straight men too. The are more options are not being a beard or single cat lady. Divorce is allowed in Mormonism.
No way… at 14:37 after he asks what kind of guy he’s into, an ad popped up for the Thanksgiving sub at firehouse and the first words were “imma stuffing guy” 😂😂😂
As a woman who came out as lesbian later in life, after having been married to a man and having kids, this is SO sad to watch. My dudes, go live your lives, you CANNOT lie to yourself like this forever.
When I was a young, closeted bisexual man living in a very conservative/bigoted area, the gay dating sites were FULL of profiles like “straight married older seeks young companion” etc… it was gross, but this kinda thing is exactly what happens when you live in a repressive environment. The feelings don’t disappear (they can’t), they just manifest in far less moral and far more toxic ways.
And then certain people will make claims like gay people never existed until recently and only because society is accepting them now. It's painful that they can't put it together themselves. 😅
No, maybe most males are just actually gay and are too cowardly to come out then blame others for their cowardess, leaving broken women and kids in the wake of their selfishness.
I love how the one wife says “he told me he had ssa” in the same way most people would say “ he told me he had cancer”. So disturbing that they just aren’t allowing these men to be gay.
Bi people exist… in a range too. They don’t all just love anyone. Some are physically attracted to people they share a gender identity with but aren’t romantically or socially attracted, two things that gay people are.
I really would love to hear her describe what the difference is to her. I tried to look it up just now and all I got was a webMD article that says SSA is attraction to the same sex regardless of one's own gender identity, which is WAY too progressive to be what the Mormon church believes.
Genuinely do not know why people from Utah keep doing national media thinking it will make Utah seem less weird lol. It’s weird and the few things that get out of the bubble do not help
Honestly I want more of that. I need people to keep knowing how weird it is so they won’t come here. Yeah I don’t wanna be here but I’m stuck and I’d rather not see every inch of land industrialised right before my eyes. People gotta stop moving here. For everyone’s sake.
Hi ex Mormon here so as a queer person who grew up in the Mormon church we were taught that it’s not a sin to be attracted to the same gender as long as you don’t act on it. So I believe that they think if they just live the way they are “supposed” to live then they will be safe and warm at night but in reality they are just being dishonest to themselves about what real happiness is. Love always wins folks stay safe there.
It really sent me overnight shipping when those gay men in the clothing store looked at each other in a perturbed way when the husbands describe ‘SSA’ like regretting engaging with them
@@Talkin-fr0g Yeah I mean I'd probably have come out as bi sooner if someone had just explained internalized homophobia to me; though I never had nearly the amount of cope as these dudes.
same sex attraction is a veryyy popular term in the christian and mormon community. it's like they think saying "gay" is accepting defeat, I heard it a lot during "don't have sex or you will die" talks at youth group.
SSA is something you have. Gay is something you are. It’s part of that hate the sin, love the sinner shit. If you ARE something bad like gay you can’t do anything about it, but if you HAVE SSA, you can(in their minds) not have it if you try hard enough.
@@nina.robbs565 yep. They all act like they can just pop over to the doctor for a shot of cortisone to clear that SSA right up. It hurts me for them. I got out of my oppressive religious upbringing, but not before it did serious damage, I hope these people find peace and happiness. And that they quit spreading this self hating madness to other young queer people.
@@angiadcock8196they think they’ll be cured in heaven, because that’s what they’re told will happen. So they just have to wait out their entire mortal lives not engaging in it and then when they die and get to heaven they’ll be cured and rewarded with a wife (or two)
It's just another way for Christians to go against their own faith without openly admitting to doing so. Most modern Christians are straight up degenerate hedonists like the rest of us, they just live in denial or think that going to church on Sundays makes up for being totally godless for the rest of the week. PICK ONE OR THE OTHER! Yes we're all sinners and born of sin or whatever, but that isn't a free pass to act like fuckin field animals, you're still supposed to try to practice moral willpower. I'll be listening to some Satanic rap music and if you go to the comments you'll see people saying things like "I'm Christian but I like this kind of music!" It's totally absurd. In what sense of the word are you still a "Christian" at that point? The Amish are probably the most legitimate Christian sect, they're modest and actually live according to scripture, yet they're humble and not half as condescending or preachy as a lot of these false Christians.
"We've been married for 20 years and 4 years ago he told me he was attracted to guys" What actually happened: "4 years ago, I came home early from work and there he was, with the deliveroo guy"
Guys… I recently found out I like eating meat. I’m a vegetarian but something about it makes me crave it. But I could never be considered a carnivore, and studies have shown that It’s fluid so I’m not an omnivore. EMO is what I’ll call it, Eating. Meat. Occasionally I promise it’s not a phase mom!
I mean, it's too bad so many people feel they have to deny who they are (or who their spouses are) in order to conform to the standards of others instead of just trying to be themselves and be happy. Because this isn't fair to either partner in these relationships.
I'll never understand why people continue to put themselves in such obviously unhappy positions to remain in these hopeless relationships when both parties would be so much happier apart and maintaining a friendship instead.
The way they talk about SSA makes it sound like a disease and I simply cannot💀 “Struggle with” “big problem in Argentina” “I have something called” Tbh, they probably do view it as something akin to disease but still💀 Edit 21:56 so it’s not just me getting those vibes!
Well yeah in their eyes it is a mental illness. The way they see it, if it isn't in 'Gods will' then it must be a sickness that needs to be cured. They're brainwashed essentially and it's pretty sad
Oh to them it is. They are told not to act on it and god will “cure” them in heaven. If they do act on it then they’re not allowed to be a full member of the church, which means base tier heaven for them and no cure.
Same for me, but with alcohol. Religious people bully me for being an alcoholic and for drinking and driving. But I'm out here living my life and enjoying it
Why do I have the sneaking suspicion that the whole reason their little "SSA" club even exists is so that the guys can do sneaky cheating together? But they have convinced the poor wifes that this is a "support group"??? Yeah us guys totally support each other to NOT do gay sins, toooootalyyyyyy... When we hang out together we read bible verses and pray the gay away that's what we do... That one husband even said it got out of control one time he invited other men to a slumber party. He's so starved for human touch with other men, the second he's alone with other men he just can't control it. Why are they doing this to themselves and their poor wives? This level of self hatred is just sad.
I’ve never seen your videos before but I have to say your delivery of the jokes kills me every time. Deadpan perfection. That being said I lived for this show because holy hell was it fascinating
Thank you!! I didn’t know if anyone else caught this… the critique of his fashion sense lol and then his love for broadway tunes and his attraction for men. lol
@@fireandseedthat's not what a beard means. Judy Garland was a beard for her first husband, Vincente Minnelli. It is just a woman who is in a relationship with a gay man, who gives the appearance of being in a heterosexual relationship.
I’m actually Mormon and have friends that after trying to be straight (men and women) they couldn’t do it and went hard the other way… broken families left and right. I think they feel that if they do the right thing then those feelings will go away? Not sure, but props to them for trying
I'll never forget the time I spent New years with my Mormon friend from drama school. Half way through my stay I was quickly ushered into my friend's bedroom & told to stay put & not make myself known. Little did I know that two Mormon church representatives turned up at their front door over hearing that they were entertaining a homosexual (me) over the holidays. The next thing my friend opened the bedroom door where I'd been holed up & just told me she'd been X communicated from the church. I flew home bewildered.
@@mandolen3317 sadly, two decades later, I find out my friend's life had turned on its head 180⁰. As in many students relationships we lost contact after the initial first few years of graduating (class of 2000). We were very close & I missed her but keeping up the friendship with us being at different ends of the island (she returned home to Scotland & myself home was London). Roughly 4-5 years ago I tried to seek my lost friend with the help of the internet but my investigating led me only down dead ends which I found odd & slightly perplexing especially given the line of professional work we'd been trained in. Even more so with my lost friend. She was such an incredibly talented actress & I stress INCREDIBLY talented she was the only exception our drama school made in it's entire history of offering her a place straight after she completed her training at the age of sixteen from the world renowned performing arts school Silvia Young (18 yrs of age was standard procedure to enroll at our drama school. I was accepted at the age of 19). Anyhoo, I managed to find a mutual drama school friend of ours & contacted her in regards to finding said lost friend. My mouth dropped at what she told me. Our friend had completely scrubbed out her past life due to we think, a build up of guilt having lived a typical, colourful teenage life in dirty, seedy London. That combined with apparently meeting with who was to become her partner who also just happened to be, a devout Mormon! She rejoined the church head first with gusto probably because her first experience with Mormonism cut so deep it inevitably brainwashed her that that's where the guilt layed. I think she may have felt the increasing feeling of needing to redeem her once religious, indoctrinated values in fear of when the time came her conscience was cleared from past "evils" & she'd be at peace meeting her maker, though I am speculating here, somewhat. My only hope is that she is at peace with her taken path & not in "pieces". I doubt I'll ever know for sure. So, here goes......Gemma my love. I think about you all the bloody time. I hope you're mummy to your beautiful children & that your partner thinks you're amazing & gifted as I always did. You'll always be a big part of my bumptious, juvenile memories & I can't apologise enough to you for probably being the reason you were banished from the church all those years ago (knowing what I know now about the Mormon church they may have used the "homosexual" card as a deploy to mask the actual reason as to why the X communication but I'm no fool as to how much my kind is actively discouraged from having anything to do with the religion let alone, god forbid, joining the Mormon church).......Long winded, I know (sorry to any patient readers & thank you for taking the time to read my only experience with this odd religion)but actually I rather found myself typing this story cathartic & I hope enlightening for you, the reader...😇
Wow. I am so sorry for you and your friend. That is rough. I grew up Mormon. Excommunications feel more rampant these days. The church wants total control and is losing that right now.
The joke that wrote itself in this video was the guy wearing a bandana to play basketball. You just KNOW he tried his hardest to think ‘what do manly, straight men wear to play basketball?’ And then bought the outfit. Later it was confirmed when he had a sleepover with ‘the incident’ and he still wants a camping trip 😅
Because it is , it’s “sibling s3xual 4ssault/abus3”. There are multiple definitions of SSA , you have to specifically look for it in the way I’m referring to, but it is a term used among survivors and some medical organizations. The biggest definition in the US of SSA is the social security administration, then there’s “same sex attracted” and finally sibling s3xual abus3 . There’s probably more obscure ones but these are the ones I know. So yeah 3 pretty different definitions under the same acronym.
I can't imagine spending so much time and energy on fighting my own identity just because some old book says that I am wrong. You can't pray the gay away, guys
And you don't have to even if you are LDS the book doesn't tell people that they'll go to hell for being gay the Parents do though but that's They're problem
ive heard of closeted, and coming out of the closet... but thanks to chris james, ive discovered the "opening the closet door and waving towards a TLC camera" state of "coming out".... i was gonna say "good on that dude, not ssa but supportive" but then, he went and said what he said...
The first woman is the kind of person that when someone is going through a really hard time, they respond with, “you just need to pray more, I’ll pray for you.” Thanks, I’ll also do nothing to actually help…
I just saw a Reddit post about a lady’s fiancé cheating on her while in Utah because apparently the air and elevation made him temporarily gay. And he thus hooked up with his male coworker
Listen this is better than what happened when I was going to BYU. I was in a marriage and family course (ironic) and hit it off with this guy in the class who asked me out. I got all excited and was talking about it to my semi-closeted (he sometimes went out with men then felt guilty and would go back to acting straight) coworker as we carpooled to work. He asked to see the dude’s picture, got quiet, and said “his name is so-and-so. I went out with him last week”.
@ yep. It was what I was supposed to do as a “good Mormon”, he was a nice guy and the date was already planned. I did tell him ahead of time what I found out and we had an honest if brief discussion about it and I think I still went so he didn’t feel awkward as well. But I also never developed a romantic attraction to him because of what I knew. We got along great but I didn’t want to be part of anyone living a lie so it never went beyond that. He is married to a woman now.
If it wasn’t herself trying to convince herself that her man is not gay, and it was all him by sending her home with books, that is the wildest gaslighting I have ever seen 😂
@ honestly it’s probably some sort of religious book that the average person would never see or know exists. I get the vibe that the real reason they’re using the term “same sex attraction” is because it’s a type of loophole since being “gay” is against their religion. There are all sorts of religious books that exist for random scenarios like this and my guess is that quite a few people would consider those books homophobic.
Cris Angel needs to host a TLC show where he helps magicians come out as magicians to their loved ones by coaching them on a set of magic tricks to open for Cris Angel as the big reveal & luring people to the venue with "free Cris Angel" tickets.
The second that poor woman said "so how do you all.. know each other" i hollered. That group absolutely sabotaged or attempted to sabotaged that date and they are scumbags for that
Good grief, these poor men not living their truths. These poor women living in delusion. How brainwashed would you have to be? His eyes are screaming for help and you can see a deep sadness in him. Someone give them the strength to walk the hell away so they can both find genuine, real love.
I don't think there guys are bi at all. When your bi you are actually attracted to both sexes you don't have to struggle with your attraction towards one sex. It really seems like they are not attracted to women at all. My wife is bi and there is no 'struggle' since she is attracted men.
So many Mormons are rich. My dad is pretty upper middle class and he is a software engineer, which is another common job. Most wives don’t work and it’s just the men. They get super stable jobs, that end up being pretty high paying.
People think bisexuality is equally loving both genders but it’s actually having attraction to two genders and that attraction mostly won’t be equal with both
@@starcrysis23 actually nope. The term pansexual is very new. Back in the day (70s/80s) bisexual very much meant what pansexual means today. It never meant either women or men. It's kinda confusing, but there's actually many many good articles and books out there about this issue.
@@starcrysis23 Also I used to think the same thing as you, but then a nice person told me I was wrong and I went and found a lot of resources that confirmed that I was in fact wrong.
i just found your channel and i’ve been binging you videos and i just gotta say i haven’t laughed out loud at a youtubers commentary in so long i’m your new biggest fan
It so sad to see people feeling like they’re not allowed to be themselves due to what they’d lose. It’s sad to see people in these relationships because it’s not going to be happy for either person. Why can’t people just be allowed to be happy?
I stayed in a heterosexual relationship for 4 years because I was sincerely struggling with comphet. I knew i wasn’t attracted to him, but I did love and care for him and I thought you just make sacrifices like attraction for your relationship. If I could go back, I would live out and proud and save him from the hurt I caused by not being honest with him. I seriously feel for the women in these situations. They deserve to be with someone who is attracted to them, and the men deserve to be with someone who they are attracted to
I’ve always felt attraction is just as important as personality and intellect. As well as things like their political and religious beliefs. All those things play a part into why you’re attracted to them. I’ve always thought that people who say looks don’t matter to me are full of sh*t! I couldn’t imagine being in a 4 year relationship with someone and not even be attracted to their sex.
@@mason4354 @KyleP133 “comphet” stands for “compulsory heterosexuality”. it’s a term used in queer spaces to explain what the guys in this video are doing. it’s a mentality of “well- i mean guys are hot but like i’m straight, i can just acknowledge a guy is attractive” or “well like… i like talking to this girl and she’s a good friend of mine. i guess i could see myself dating her and kissing her might not be that bad”. basically a mode of thinking where you’re gaslighting yourself into thinking your own gay thoughts and feelings are just “what everyone feels” and that platonic feelings for the opposite sex must somehow be romantic or sexual attraction. contrapoints video “shame” goes over some aspects of comphet really well.
@@mason4354 “compulsory heterosexuality” basically “well yeah guys are hot, but i’m not gay everyone thinks guys are hot” or “well this girl is a friend and i guess kissing her wouldn’t be so bad. i guess she’d be good to date.” pretty much “let’s pick someone of the opposite gender to be attracted to” contrapoints has a good video on it
Rob, Curtis' Friend: "My friend told me he was gay, and I couldn't help but think of that poor wife and those poor kids and how they are being affected. Lots of families fall apart because of his type of struggle. It's a real problem in other areas." Who needs enemies when you have friends like that?
Imagine all the closeted man all over the world. But as long as they genuinely love their family then that would be fine, rather than a staight af man but can't commit to their love ones.
My sister decided to move to Utah and become a Mormon. My niece admitted she was attracted to girls this past year. My sister had her removed from the house and sent to a group home to "pray the gay away". I wish I was kidding about this.
Never thought I hear gays and Mormons in the same sentence. The intro theme sounds like the beginning of a Western film but instead of gunfights, its drama involving couples who's husbands aren't being honest about their feelings of attraction. Thank u for raising awareness @Chris James.
I think this is a fairly common condundrum is a lot of religions. They know and accept they are gay, but chose their religion. Fascinating way to live.
I would sell my second born (already have a first born and they’re dope so I wanna keep em) for more episodes of this. Tlc truly dropped the ball not launching a full series on this. This and adopted at birth. Both could have jumpstarted a dozen new worth watching RUclips channels each.
Sorry but now it definitely has to be your first born, the whole point of the first born as a bargaining chip is their value over other children you may have. No one is going to continue this serious for anything as lowly as a second born.
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On TLC I learned about hookers and angry couples fighting over weather or not the random guys are the father or not on Jerry Springer.
8:47 is that a snake just rolling around in the grass in the back having the time of its life?
@@jordancambridge4106on tlc I learned to stop having faith in humanity 😂
1652: Broken Back Mountain style of camping.
I'm just going to say. Watch Billy the exterminator if you already haven't. Pls
I think “Pret” is a nickname. His full name is “Pretending to be straight because I have religious trauma”
This comment is so B****Y , and I love it
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I laughed out loud harder than I thought i would 😂😂😂 so funny
i saw someone on reddit that claimed to have been partners for their mission trip(?) say his full name is preston
OMG 😂😂😂😂😂
‘Camping?’
Brokeback mountain flashed before her eyes
literally what i said out loud the moment she said that ToT
her face when she said camping was so funny
I literally came to the comments specifically to mention what a missed opportunity that was lol..
I'd like to think it was a clever tactic on Chris' part to trigger engagement in the comments and not me just being old enough to remember brokeback mountain 😂😂
Glamping
That Kill Bill siren started blaring in her head
This literally feels like an SNL skit. I can’t believe this is real.
Im awaiting that skit!!!
Like for real 😂😂😂
Fr 😭 It’s giving Aaron Goldenberg’s The Clarksons
Most of these shows are fake…
@@frankiethefrog1752 I mean is this one? Can you support that with something showing this is fake?
"I'm not gay. Like, I'm super not gay, obviously. It's just that my attraction to men dominates every conversation I have, every activity I do, and my circle of friends. But like, in the straightest way possible."
“The gayest thing about me is how much I like show tunes, amirite?”
“…and also wanting to have sex with other men, I guess…”
😂😂😂😂😂😂 great!!😂😂😂😂funny ashelll
What about dominating all his holes?
Slay girl 💅🏻 I mean guy 🦾
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"I've never had gay sex with other men but i have had Straight sex with other men"
"I've made some mistakes in my marriage" is code for I CHEATED
That and getting married...to a woman... for starters.
this channel is beyond cringe..
Guess we know where that herpe came from...
then says an incident with a couple of guys not one but a plethora
Call me crazy but I think to the wife him messing with other guys is bad, but him messing with another woman would be horrible. And at least she never has to worry about that. Ever. Which is a strange kind of security.....
The amount of mental gymnastics these people are doing to NOT say “gay” is wild.
'SSA' is the most Mormon answer to being gay I've legitimately ever seen. Somehow, Mormons never cease to amaze me with the weird loopholes.
I mean it spells “ass” backwards. Did they mean that???
My first ex husband is or was Mormon and his parents are very Mormon . Anyway yeah it’s a Wild ride! I was always the black sheep but 1,000% while I was married to that man .
Didn't they bring "soaking" to the table as well?
@@JerseyDevilJerseyGirl Mind Blown 🤯
not to be confused with the other SSA, secret s**ual assault, which is the other thing Mormons are known for
My husband's not gay but his boyfriend is
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Dibs
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But HE says that. Not you.
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I kinda love how their little acronym they came up with is just ASS spelt backwards😂
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HOLY SHIT🤣
I would never have even noticed if you didn't say anything lmao
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the level of denial from both people in these couples is incredible
As my mom would say “Denial is Not just a river in Egypt “😂
It's actually quite sad how brainwashed these poor people are that even when they see things that counter their beliefs, not to worry, we got something to explain that away and make it godly again. They are stuck in a loop with themselves and their religion contrasting questioning their ideals, then reaffirming them again
Lmao good one
It takes denial. Oh wait no it takes a village. Same thing.
This is just gross & it's so sad that society has gotten so far from God that this is even remotely acceptable 🙁 That's nowhere close to acceptable in any religion that I believe in.
I’m bi and have been monogamously married to one person of one gender for 25 years, and it’s surprisingly not difficult to avoid public perving on people of other genders or having sleepovers with them that “get out of hand” 🤷🏻♀️
How's it any different than being straight and still having 50% of the population to gawk at if that's what you really wanna do
Oh you know this person personally?@whitedanielj91
@@whitedanielj91?
well as we all know people of any other sexuality other than straight are immediately critcized for being more promiscuous, as if there isn't a literal epidemic of straight married men cheating on their partners like the world is going to end...
Same. Been with my spouse 20 years and have also been totally monogamous. It's really not hard.
i feel bad for everyone involved here. when i was a teenager my parents divorced because my dad came out. i was mostly just puzzled by the whole thing at first. now, i’m glad they didn’t try to stick it out and create some kind of weird resentment. they’re besties now lol and we still have holidays all together. i hope these people figured something out since they filmed this.
TLC has to be the GOAT of unhinged lifestyle documentaries
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We all make fun of them for it, but it can be a fascinating look into a lifestyle you never get to see otherwise.
I swear I remember as a kid, maybe at five or six, that TLC was ACTUALLY a learning channel. I thought I watched that channel whenever I stayed home from school because I was sick, and it for sure wasn't this nonsense.
The Lifestyle Channel
@@aguyhere7945 Yeah, I’d definitely never think of these weird as hell lifestyles without these shows. 😂
"in the mormon faith, we dont practice homosexuality... Were just so damned good at it that we dont have to practice"
@@incredibleflameboy "What? No! When I said I love cocks I meant COURTNEY Cox! Na na nana, na-na-na na naa! (claps four times)" - Brigham Young possibly
LMAO
😂😂😂😂
Whatttt ⁉️⁉️😂
Oh they are definitely not that good at it lol sex us fine it's not that complicated to fit the parts together buy actually being gay they absolutely suck at it lmao I've been with quite a few I literally made them leave as soon as we were finished if they lingered it would become a therapy session not attractive
When Tom told his date “I deal with something….called same sex attraction” I literally laughed out loud!
"I had some men spend the night and things got a little out of hand". Referred to it as "the Incident", and asking him if he remembers. I guarantee you he's not forgetting it. It will be one of those things he remembers on his deathbed fondly, and maybe a camping trip. XD
Sausagefest lmao
Sounds like it got right into his hand
Rumour has it their next boy's trip if going to be to Argentina..
...with a pit stop in Rio
@@janx8695 tf has argentina got to do with this
Closeted Mormon husbands? Well, who'd have thought!
Never would’ve guessed!
Lmao 😂
He can have infinite wives but all he wants is a husband🙏😭
The sheer audacity of how shocked I am
@@psilosighin A tragedy that even Sophocles couldn't surpass.
13:34 if I was drugged and forgot I was married to you and was in a back alley, with romantic music 😂
I diedddddd
It was the “romantic music” that got me 😂😂
This had to be the part I laughed the hardest at
Nothing says romance like back door action behind a dumpster. 😆
Careless Whisper by George Michael. 😂
Not him calling the bandana a “durag” 😂 bro has never seen a durag before in his life 💀
I opened the comments specifically for this.
My man 💪
ONG, that made me cringe
Durag is a little ghetto, so us cultured ones, or Mehicans, prefer to call them bandanas
@@CosmicEpiphany Durag isn't the "ghetto" term for a bandana. It's just the name of a unique type of accessory.
Course I'm sure next you'll tell me you call shirts "chemisettes" and pants "britches".
Wife has 1000 yard stare everytime the husband says he’s going out with the boys
this youtuber is the defintion of cringe.. your joke not bad you should start a channel cause this channel is a unfunny joke.
@ damn what this RUclipsr do to you 🤣
@@OGbornsinnerzi never seen this guy before but he seems more into men than anyone in this vid js
@@JohnSmith-bw6pv you're clearly a child
@@JohnSmith-bw6pv
"i never seen this guy before"
Word of advice, do not admit that you are unfamiliar with someone immediately after making a sweeping statement about them.
When he said "that's the kind of dog you should get" that's when I knew they were all going on that camping trip full danger.
The only dog on that camping trip will be raw dog.
"they really need guy time." im fucking dying
😂😂
Oh they really really need it LOL
Code for being his ass pounded
I get the impression they f eachother...
when he said, "I deal with SSA" like it was something that requires medication, I lost it. 😂😂😂
Doc - "Take two dicks and call me in the morning"
I know, right? Calling it "bisexuality" might feel a whole lot freer!
Lmao.😂 Caught that.
As in " I have chronic ssa" or "I'm suffering from my ssa damnit" 🤯
Your silent eyebrow raise about the camping trip was chef's kiss perfection!
"if you like guys, like guys" preach my dude. Gah, Mormons, mental gymnastic champs.
Went to middle school with that guy. He was pretty cool then, too.
Bigotry champs more like
Cognitive dissonance is to Mormons what the Emperors guiding light is to the Navis Nobilite.
I felt very attacked 😂
Pret is obviously short for pretending.
Maybe pretzel, in the sense of twisting the truth until it's delicious.
👏 👑
"He's 'Utah Gay.' " 😆 That's perfect!
I use to date a Mormon girl and her parents were extremely odd. I have a feeling these women ignored tons of red flags just to be married. I’m 1000% sure of it
The whole being ostracized and blamed if you get divorced for any reason in some communities probably doesn't help either.
@ that’s old school. That doesn’t really apply anymore
Marriage is an important sacrament for salvation for them so it makes sense.
@ but alcoholism and gambling is ok? Both her parents were booze hounds and the dad spent more time at Mohegan Sun than at home. That’s ok I guess just don’t get divorced. God will be mad. You can drink yourself re. Tar dEd just don’t get divorced
Oh a 1000% I grew up with mormans . They really just want to get married .
I almost died at "Broadway show tunes and being attracted to men."
Pretty sure it’s the same guy who hosts a Disney parks news channel on yt
is it bad I thought of nathan lane while reading this
"I'm not gay, accept for liking show tunes and also the thing that makes me gay"
Yeah that one made me laugh. Show tunes aside, the latter part really sounded like "I'm not gay, except for being gay."
Reminds me of The Office, Oscar saying 'Except having s*x with men, I would say the Finer Things club is the gayest thing about me'
“At least he doesn’t have anybody else to compare me to”
Now I’m depressed, very very depressed.
I used to be a part of a “ministry” for men and women who “struggled with same sex attraction” called Live Hope. It was very Baptist/Christian based it was one of the saddest groups of people I ever met in my life. There was always this longing in each of us to connect with each other on a deeper level, but this insane guilt and shame that we felt for wanting that. Many of us are now happily out and proud.
And yes, we all did not identify as gay, but as people who struggled with SSA.
Gross that's gay dude
Congrats! That's awesome that many of you have chosen to put your happiness first! We only get one shot at life. 🤙🏼
You mean you longed to connect via coitus? Because you can connect on a very deep level without doing that
So sorry you guys went through that. Life is already hard enough, I can’t imagine adding that on top of it. I wish no one ever had to feel like that 🤦♀️
TLC said: bisexuals? never heard of them. impossible.
💖💜💙
The B in LGBT is always ignored if it's not women, because "Thats hot"
You laugh, but Chump recently convinced half the country that Biracialism doesn't exist.
Sadly lots of people do that even in the current year, they only think gay or straight and in their minds those are the only options
Bi erasure is so real and hurtful. Even the lgbtqia+ community often minimizes bi struggles and representation. The stupid jokes about pansexuals just being sluts. And that's from the Alphabet Crew, peers who are supposed to understand. It's really stupid sometimes
Im pretty sure from the information we've been given these men are actually gay though and everyone is just dancing around it
Off the subject on more about technique: your editing - back and forth between the video and your intermittent comments - was *perfect* . This isn't always the case on youtube videos, where the commentary interrupts the subject at hand for too long (and too often!) and becomes absolutely MADDENING to watch! So bravo for that, and - by th way - the topic and coverage!
Imagine being married to someone who isn’t attracted to you in the slightest. These women must feel so empty.
Oh that's just Mormonism
No, definitely not! Thankfully, blessedly, their wives are the one single woman in the would that they're attracted to! Isn't that convenient? Phew!
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The sad reality is that they’d rather be married to a gay man than not have a husband at all.
@Supermoneygang12 They could be married to straight men too. The are more options are not being a beard or single cat lady. Divorce is allowed in Mormonism.
@@TheBayzentyes it is
16:46 “I think me and the guys are gonna go camping for a few weeks.”
Tanya, furiously sweating- “Camping…??!!”
😂😂😂😂 omg fr
No way… at 14:37 after he asks what kind of guy he’s into, an ad popped up for the Thanksgiving sub at firehouse and the first words were “imma stuffing guy” 😂😂😂
When I hear SSA, I just think of the Social Security Administration.
Sounds like some specialised form of Sexual Assault to me.
@@robertkirchner7981 With the way they talk about other men in public, I agree.
@@robertkirchner7981 same Robert same 😂😂😂
Same 😂
@@robertkirchner7981 super sexual assault
This whole SSA thing is ass-backwards.
😭 that was gold thank you
(SSA) Super Sexual Assault is a wild acronym. Sounds like Diddy if he went Goku Saiyan path in life.
that's totally not at all what it means@@God-k5b
@@God-k5b just sounds like normal diddy ngl
U deserve top comment😂
As a woman who came out as lesbian later in life, after having been married to a man and having kids, this is SO sad to watch. My dudes, go live your lives, you CANNOT lie to yourself like this forever.
As an alcoholic who came out later in life, after building a successful home. Go on and live your life, you cannot lie to yourself forever
SSA is a super Mormon term. The church uses it allllll the time. Source: Live in salt lake
It takes balls to use a computer in the middle of a body of salt water.
@@prodigal_southernereh, not much water left these days
@@prodigal_southernerhe’s sitting on an island of salt I can only assume
It’s always so bizarre when Salt Lake breaks containment lol. Not a place easily explained to folks who haven’t lived it.
You should move out of the lake, it’s so much dryer on land
When I was a young, closeted bisexual man living in a very conservative/bigoted area, the gay dating sites were FULL of profiles like “straight married older seeks young companion” etc… it was gross, but this kinda thing is exactly what happens when you live in a repressive environment. The feelings don’t disappear (they can’t), they just manifest in far less moral and far more toxic ways.
And then certain people will make claims like gay people never existed until recently and only because society is accepting them now. It's painful that they can't put it together themselves. 😅
So unfortunate…
That last sentence is what so many fail to understand. Self-acceptance does not lead to deviant behavior, self-loathing and self-hatred does.
Very honest comment, thank you.
No, maybe most males are just actually gay and are too cowardly to come out then blame others for their cowardess, leaving broken women and kids in the wake of their selfishness.
I love how the one wife says “he told me he had ssa” in the same way most people would say “ he told me he had cancer”. So disturbing that they just aren’t allowing these men to be gay.
"Not gay, same sex attraction" uhm... Who's gonna tell her?
I laughed so hard at that
Bi people exist… in a range too. They don’t all just love anyone. Some are physically attracted to people they share a gender identity with but aren’t romantically or socially attracted, two things that gay people are.
I really would love to hear her describe what the difference is to her.
I tried to look it up just now and all I got was a webMD article that says SSA is attraction to the same sex regardless of one's own gender identity, which is WAY too progressive to be what the Mormon church believes.
SSA = gay and bi. She probably thinks he’s bi.
I mean he could be bisexual but that man is very gay
Genuinely do not know why people from Utah keep doing national media thinking it will make Utah seem less weird lol. It’s weird and the few things that get out of the bubble do not help
I live here lol we are all aware this state is a joke 🤣 at this point we take it for what it is 🤣
Well of course it's weird the weather changes every time you sneeze.... or blink or breathe
Honestly I want more of that. I need people to keep knowing how weird it is so they won’t come here. Yeah I don’t wanna be here but I’m stuck and I’d rather not see every inch of land industrialised right before my eyes. People gotta stop moving here. For everyone’s sake.
Idaho is the meme one still right?
@mason4354 No that's Ohio
Hi ex Mormon here so as a queer person who grew up in the Mormon church we were taught that it’s not a sin to be attracted to the same gender as long as you don’t act on it. So I believe that they think if they just live the way they are “supposed” to live then they will be safe and warm at night but in reality they are just being dishonest to themselves about what real happiness is. Love always wins folks stay safe there.
It really sent me overnight shipping when those gay men in the clothing store looked at each other in a perturbed way when the husbands describe ‘SSA’ like regretting engaging with them
I love that one of the guys essentially explained to the camera that they just have internalized homophobia.
“Sent me overnight shipping” has KILLED ME 😂
It was like watching dogs meet wolves
Yeah my gay ass woulda reacted the same way lmao
@@Talkin-fr0g Yeah I mean I'd probably have come out as bi sooner if someone had just explained internalized homophobia to me; though I never had nearly the amount of cope as these dudes.
same sex attraction is a veryyy popular term in the christian and mormon community. it's like they think saying "gay" is accepting defeat, I heard it a lot during "don't have sex or you will die" talks at youth group.
SSA is something you have. Gay is something you are. It’s part of that hate the sin, love the sinner shit. If you ARE something bad like gay you can’t do anything about it, but if you HAVE SSA, you can(in their minds) not have it if you try hard enough.
@angiadcock8196 so painfully accurate 😭 they treat it like you just have a little illness, not that you just ARE.
@@nina.robbs565 yep. They all act like they can just pop over to the doctor for a shot of cortisone to clear that SSA right up. It hurts me for them. I got out of my oppressive religious upbringing, but not before it did serious damage, I hope these people find peace and happiness. And that they quit spreading this self hating madness to other young queer people.
@@angiadcock8196they think they’ll be cured in heaven, because that’s what they’re told will happen. So they just have to wait out their entire mortal lives not engaging in it and then when they die and get to heaven they’ll be cured and rewarded with a wife (or two)
It's just another way for Christians to go against their own faith without openly admitting to doing so. Most modern Christians are straight up degenerate hedonists like the rest of us, they just live in denial or think that going to church on Sundays makes up for being totally godless for the rest of the week. PICK ONE OR THE OTHER! Yes we're all sinners and born of sin or whatever, but that isn't a free pass to act like fuckin field animals, you're still supposed to try to practice moral willpower. I'll be listening to some Satanic rap music and if you go to the comments you'll see people saying things like "I'm Christian but I like this kind of music!" It's totally absurd. In what sense of the word are you still a "Christian" at that point? The Amish are probably the most legitimate Christian sect, they're modest and actually live according to scripture, yet they're humble and not half as condescending or preachy as a lot of these false Christians.
"We've been married for 20 years and 4 years ago he told me he was attracted to guys"
What actually happened:
"4 years ago, I came home early from work and there he was, with the deliveroo guy"
Guys… I recently found out I like eating meat. I’m a vegetarian but something about it makes me crave it. But I could never be considered a carnivore, and studies have shown that It’s fluid so I’m not an omnivore. EMO is what I’ll call it, Eating. Meat. Occasionally
I promise it’s not a phase mom!
😂😂😂😂😂
Enjoy if you are a adult if not Do what parents say
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Ehh, flexitarianism is a spectrum, apparently xD
I mean, it's too bad so many people feel they have to deny who they are (or who their spouses are) in order to conform to the standards of others instead of just trying to be themselves and be happy. Because this isn't fair to either partner in these relationships.
They shouldn’t have gotten married then like duh
Have you heard of the Mormon religion?
Mormonism is a cult unfortunately
yeah its fucked, but also a tale as old as time. its all just very cringe
I love the woman who said "I'm not oppressed".
Lady, no one thinks YOU'RE the one being oppressed here.
I'll never understand why people continue to put themselves in such obviously unhappy positions to remain in these hopeless relationships when both parties would be so much happier apart and maintaining a friendship instead.
The way they talk about SSA makes it sound like a disease and I simply cannot💀
“Struggle with” “big problem in Argentina” “I have something called”
Tbh, they probably do view it as something akin to disease but still💀
Edit 21:56 so it’s not just me getting those vibes!
I literally said this out loud!! It is so sad to see them act like this because it is not that deep. Be who you are!
Religion is the only disease here
Well yeah in their eyes it is a mental illness. The way they see it, if it isn't in 'Gods will' then it must be a sickness that needs to be cured. They're brainwashed essentially and it's pretty sad
@@pandaninja_19
What if they don’t want to be gay?
Oh to them it is. They are told not to act on it and god will “cure” them in heaven. If they do act on it then they’re not allowed to be a full member of the church, which means base tier heaven for them and no cure.
I want to know more about the slumber party incident
They fucked.
😅😂😂😂😂😂
Things got a little out of control 😮
There was very little sleeping, but lots of baby oil and poppers.
@@Oheng75 TLC needs to make that reality show
I’m an old lesbian. If these guys weren’t bullied by religion they would ALL be living their true lives as GAY men.
Same for me, but with alcohol. Religious people bully me for being an alcoholic and for drinking and driving. But I'm out here living my life and enjoying it
"They need their guy time." Yeah I bet they do.
Why do I have the sneaking suspicion that the whole reason their little "SSA" club even exists is so that the guys can do sneaky cheating together? But they have convinced the poor wifes that this is a "support group"??? Yeah us guys totally support each other to NOT do gay sins, toooootalyyyyyy... When we hang out together we read bible verses and pray the gay away that's what we do... That one husband even said it got out of control one time he invited other men to a slumber party. He's so starved for human touch with other men, the second he's alone with other men he just can't control it. Why are they doing this to themselves and their poor wives? This level of self hatred is just sad.
when they said they're all friends and have a tight-knit SSA community I audibly said "oh so they're fucking." because like, obviously.
Their sexy guy time
It's a very _tight_ knit group.
4:00 the name Pret is probably short for "Pretentious" 😅
Pretzel 😂😂😂
@@nelsonargueta3706pickled pretzel
The best part is that the English name "Pret" means "crafty one"... Like a person who is cunning and underhanded... a bit like Pret.
Short for “Pretty Straight, but Mostly Gay” Jr.
I thought it could be just Preston and because he is pretentious he calls himself Pret.
I’ve never seen your videos before but I have to say your delivery of the jokes kills me every time. Deadpan perfection. That being said I lived for this show because holy hell was it fascinating
When your “partner” says “I trust you” that means “I DO NOT trust you but I’m trying to stay calm and hope I can ACTUALLY TRUST YOU!”
Especially when they bring out your past like she did. She definitely doesn’t trust him
“Its not really a thing” to the bandana, then going straight into broadway shows tunes was Tina Fey sitcom level writing.
Thank you!! I didn’t know if anyone else caught this… the critique of his fashion sense lol and then his love for broadway tunes and his attraction for men. lol
10:10 he really said "I'm not like those other gays" 😭
Lmaooo right?! 😂 that cracked me up too
These wives are the "beards" of the relationship. And I'm not talking about facial hair here.
Agreed!! I feel very sorry for the lies that these women tell themselves just to get through the day.
😂
Noticed the masculine energy coming from the wives
@@fireandseedthat's not what a beard means. Judy Garland was a beard for her first husband, Vincente Minnelli. It is just a woman who is in a relationship with a gay man, who gives the appearance of being in a heterosexual relationship.
@@SavageMinnow oh my god I thought the original comment was referring to pubic hair,and I was trying to understand how the wives are pubic hairs,
Wait, so the guys in the group get together and hang out in the park all the time? Nice to see that crusing culture is still alive and well lolz
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If you don’t know what cruising means, I do not recommend googling “gay cruising” without safe search on 💀
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I’m actually Mormon and have friends that after trying to be straight (men and women) they couldn’t do it and went hard the other way… broken families left and right. I think they feel that if they do the right thing then those feelings will go away? Not sure, but props to them for trying
Just accept you aren't perfect and do your best. If you don't like the opposite gender and going with yours isn't allowed, stay single.
@@TheBayzentor maybe change the society that doesn’t allow you to be yourself and happy?
10:00 is the hardest ive cackled at something in a long while. "...........and my attraction to males" is perfect comedic timing
I'll never forget the time I spent New years with my Mormon friend from drama school. Half way through my stay I was quickly ushered into my friend's bedroom & told to stay put & not make myself known. Little did I know that two Mormon church representatives turned up at their front door over hearing that they were entertaining a homosexual (me) over the holidays. The next thing my friend opened the bedroom door where I'd been holed up & just told me she'd been X communicated from the church. I flew home bewildered.
That's brutal, but good for her in long run.
so is there girls in relationships there with SSA?
@@mandolen3317 sadly, two decades later, I find out my friend's life had turned on its head 180⁰. As in many students relationships we lost contact after the initial first few years of graduating (class of 2000). We were very close & I missed her but keeping up the friendship with us being at different ends of the island (she returned home to Scotland & myself home was London). Roughly 4-5 years ago I tried to seek my lost friend with the help of the internet but my investigating led me only down dead ends which I found odd & slightly perplexing especially given the line of professional work we'd been trained in. Even more so with my lost friend. She was such an incredibly talented actress & I stress INCREDIBLY talented she was the only exception our drama school made in it's entire history of offering her a place straight after she completed her training at the age of sixteen from the world renowned performing arts school Silvia Young (18 yrs of age was standard procedure to enroll at our drama school. I was accepted at the age of 19). Anyhoo, I managed to find a mutual drama school friend of ours & contacted her in regards to finding said lost friend. My mouth dropped at what she told me. Our friend had completely scrubbed out her past life due to we think, a build up of guilt having lived a typical, colourful teenage life in dirty, seedy London. That combined with apparently meeting with who was to become her partner who also just happened to be, a devout Mormon! She rejoined the church head first with gusto probably because her first experience with Mormonism cut so deep it inevitably brainwashed her that that's where the guilt layed. I think she may have felt the increasing feeling of needing to redeem her once religious, indoctrinated values in fear of when the time came her conscience was cleared from past "evils" & she'd be at peace meeting her maker, though I am speculating here, somewhat. My only hope is that she is at peace with her taken path & not in "pieces". I doubt I'll ever know for sure. So, here goes......Gemma my love. I think about you all the bloody time. I hope you're mummy to your beautiful children & that your partner thinks you're amazing & gifted as I always did. You'll always be a big part of my bumptious, juvenile memories & I can't apologise enough to you for probably being the reason you were banished from the church all those years ago (knowing what I know now about the Mormon church they may have used the "homosexual" card as a deploy to mask the actual reason as to why the X communication but I'm no fool as to how much my kind is actively discouraged from having anything to do with the religion let alone, god forbid, joining the Mormon church).......Long winded, I know (sorry to any patient readers & thank you for taking the time to read my only experience with this odd religion)but actually I rather found myself typing this story cathartic & I hope enlightening for you, the reader...😇
Wow. I am so sorry for you and your friend. That is rough. I grew up Mormon. Excommunications feel more rampant these days. The church wants total control and is losing that right now.
Really? Like the Gestapo? Two dudes looking for the "crime". Pigs
The joke that wrote itself in this video was the guy wearing a bandana to play basketball. You just KNOW he tried his hardest to think ‘what do manly, straight men wear to play basketball?’ And then bought the outfit. Later it was confirmed when he had a sleepover with ‘the incident’ and he still wants a camping trip 😅
The term "SSA" sounds like an abbreviation of some kind of crime 😂💀 "He committed 'SSA' against me"
Because it is , it’s “sibling s3xual 4ssault/abus3”. There are multiple definitions of SSA , you have to specifically look for it in the way I’m referring to, but it is a term used among survivors and some medical organizations. The biggest definition in the US of SSA is the social security administration, then there’s “same sex attracted” and finally sibling s3xual abus3 . There’s probably more obscure ones but these are the ones I know. So yeah 3 pretty different definitions under the same acronym.
I can't imagine spending so much time and energy on fighting my own identity just because some old book says that I am wrong. You can't pray the gay away, guys
And you don't have to even if you are LDS the book doesn't tell people that they'll go to hell for being gay the Parents do though but that's They're problem
Some would lose their whole families
It’s not the books, it’s the leaders.
@@charliemayfilms1550 no it's the parents
@Mrdude268 No its the leaders.
As someone who moved to Utah 6 years ago, you've be surprised how many couples are doing this.
Tinder fb dating ect is filled with couples like this
ive heard of closeted, and coming out of the closet... but thanks to chris james, ive discovered the "opening the closet door and waving towards a TLC camera" state of "coming out"....
i was gonna say "good on that dude, not ssa but supportive" but then, he went and said what he said...
The first woman is the kind of person that when someone is going through a really hard time, they respond with, “you just need to pray more, I’ll pray for you.” Thanks, I’ll also do nothing to actually help…
the type of mother to send their child to a conversion (re: torture) camp, where they "force the gay away" 😒
This is too real. I know people who will try to comfort you about genocide with "God has it all figured out".
Man, why are Mormons so terrifying?
Do they know they don't have to talk and dress and act like that?
I just saw a Reddit post about a lady’s fiancé cheating on her while in Utah because apparently the air and elevation made him temporarily gay. And he thus hooked up with his male coworker
i always thought hikers were generally kind of gay, didnt know it was conditional but thats awesome we stan gay mountains
I saw that too! Wild!
???! 😭🤣
Listen this is better than what happened when I was going to BYU. I was in a marriage and family course (ironic) and hit it off with this guy in the class who asked me out. I got all excited and was talking about it to my semi-closeted (he sometimes went out with men then felt guilty and would go back to acting straight) coworker as we carpooled to work. He asked to see the dude’s picture, got quiet, and said “his name is so-and-so. I went out with him last week”.
did you still go on the date?
@ yep. It was what I was supposed to do as a “good Mormon”, he was a nice guy and the date was already planned. I did tell him ahead of time what I found out and we had an honest if brief discussion about it and I think I still went so he didn’t feel awkward as well. But I also never developed a romantic attraction to him because of what I knew. We got along great but I didn’t want to be part of anyone living a lie so it never went beyond that. He is married to a woman now.
@@rebekahlee9666hope he was just bi and isn't feeling miserable now
No way they aren't plugging each other on there "guy time" 😂
If it wasn’t herself trying to convince herself that her man is not gay, and it was all him by sending her home with books, that is the wildest gaslighting I have ever seen 😂
@ honestly it’s probably some sort of religious book that the average person would never see or know exists. I get the vibe that the real reason they’re using the term “same sex attraction” is because it’s a type of loophole since being “gay” is against their religion. There are all sorts of religious books that exist for random scenarios like this and my guess is that quite a few people would consider those books homophobic.
Cris Angel needs to host a TLC show where he helps magicians come out as magicians to their loved ones by coaching them on a set of magic tricks to open for Cris Angel as the big reveal & luring people to the venue with "free Cris Angel" tickets.
I think that is hilarious
As someone who has suffered from comphet until recently, this is heartbreaking to watch
The second that poor woman said "so how do you all.. know each other" i hollered. That group absolutely sabotaged or attempted to sabotaged that date and they are scumbags for that
Good grief, these poor men not living their truths. These poor women living in delusion. How brainwashed would you have to be? His eyes are screaming for help and you can see a deep sadness in him. Someone give them the strength to walk the hell away so they can both find genuine, real love.
1:03 is bi not an option?
Exactly
I don't think there guys are bi at all. When your bi you are actually attracted to both sexes you don't have to struggle with your attraction towards one sex. It really seems like they are not attracted to women at all. My wife is bi and there is no 'struggle' since she is attracted men.
Tf do these people do for work? Their houses are ridiculous.
Solar panels and construction
they work in money
MLMs, generational wealth, and other such mormon entrepreneurialism. Source: I've met all of these guys
So many Mormons are rich. My dad is pretty upper middle class and he is a software engineer, which is another common job. Most wives don’t work and it’s just the men. They get super stable jobs, that end up being pretty high paying.
I know Tom is a geography teacher. What he may do outside of that, idk.
People think bisexuality is equally loving both genders but it’s actually having attraction to two genders and that attraction mostly won’t be equal with both
Actually, it means being attracted to more than one gender. Not exclusively two.
@@onwindydaysthats pansexuality. The bi prefix means two.
@@starcrysis23 actually nope. The term pansexual is very new. Back in the day (70s/80s) bisexual very much meant what pansexual means today. It never meant either women or men. It's kinda confusing, but there's actually many many good articles and books out there about this issue.
@@starcrysis23 Also I used to think the same thing as you, but then a nice person told me I was wrong and I went and found a lot of resources that confirmed that I was in fact wrong.
i just found your channel and i’ve been binging you videos and i just gotta say i haven’t laughed out loud at a youtubers commentary in so long i’m your new biggest fan
Every time they say SSA my brain translates it to SA lol doesn’t sound good, they should probably call themselves something else
Same
Fr tho
Ikr
Wait wait wait wait what books did he give her at 3:06 "so your boyfriend just told you he's attracted to men" 😂
It so sad to see people feeling like they’re not allowed to be themselves due to what they’d lose. It’s sad to see people in these relationships because it’s not going to be happy for either person. Why can’t people just be allowed to be happy?
Major props for shouting out Hunt Jones. Sadly most RUclipsrs wouldn't have even thought to do that.
I just found him through this show like 2 days ago!
@@acm_1028 Dude same for me.
I stayed in a heterosexual relationship for 4 years because I was sincerely struggling with comphet. I knew i wasn’t attracted to him, but I did love and care for him and I thought you just make sacrifices like attraction for your relationship. If I could go back, I would live out and proud and save him from the hurt I caused by not being honest with him. I seriously feel for the women in these situations. They deserve to be with someone who is attracted to them, and the men deserve to be with someone who they are attracted to
I’ve always felt attraction is just as important as personality and intellect. As well as things like their political and religious beliefs. All those things play a part into why you’re attracted to them. I’ve always thought that people who say looks don’t matter to me are full of sh*t! I couldn’t imagine being in a 4 year relationship with someone and not even be attracted to their sex.
What the heck is comphet
What the heck is comphet?
@@mason4354 @KyleP133 “comphet” stands for “compulsory heterosexuality”. it’s a term used in queer spaces to explain what the guys in this video are doing. it’s a mentality of “well- i mean guys are hot but like i’m straight, i can just acknowledge a guy is attractive” or “well like… i like talking to this girl and she’s a good friend of mine. i guess i could see myself dating her and kissing her might not be that bad”.
basically a mode of thinking where you’re gaslighting yourself into thinking your own gay thoughts and feelings are just “what everyone feels” and that platonic feelings for the opposite sex must somehow be romantic or sexual attraction. contrapoints video “shame” goes over some aspects of comphet really well.
@@mason4354 “compulsory heterosexuality” basically “well yeah guys are hot, but i’m not gay everyone thinks guys are hot” or “well this girl is a friend and i guess kissing her wouldn’t be so bad. i guess she’d be good to date.”
pretty much “let’s pick someone of the opposite gender to be attracted to” contrapoints has a good video on it
Rob, Curtis' Friend: "My friend told me he was gay, and I couldn't help but think of that poor wife and those poor kids and how they are being affected. Lots of families fall apart because of his type of struggle. It's a real problem in other areas."
Who needs enemies when you have friends like that?
The dude who said “you should get THAT dog” definitely has a crush on the blind date guy. He is so jealous he couldn’t help but say that 😂😂😂
Chris, you’re not the only one with a great beard in this video 😏
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Exactly!!
Lmfaooo
Imagine all the closeted man all over the world. But as long as they genuinely love their family then that would be fine, rather than a staight af man but can't commit to their love ones.
Being married to someone you arent attracted to is hard on both spouses even if youre a good dad or husband otherwise
Could've swore they already made this show and it was called Chrisley Knows Best.😂
lol oop
Oh damn I remember seeing commercials for that show. I remember thinking “when is the episode where he comes out the closet??” 😂
😂😂 thank you
@@LuisGonzalez-ou5cghe wasn’t gay, he was mETrOsExUaL 😂
Idk how that man has not came out of the closet yet
16:46 Where are they going camping? Brokeback Mountain? 😂
Yes! And bareback mountain on the next trip too!
My sister decided to move to Utah and become a Mormon. My niece admitted she was attracted to girls this past year. My sister had her removed from the house and sent to a group home to "pray the gay away". I wish I was kidding about this.
Never thought I hear gays and Mormons in the same sentence. The intro theme sounds like the beginning of a Western film but instead of gunfights, its drama involving couples who's husbands aren't being honest about their feelings of attraction. Thank u for raising awareness @Chris James.
Gays? Where did you hear gay? It is same sex attraction.
I think this is a fairly common condundrum is a lot of religions. They know and accept they are gay, but chose their religion. Fascinating way to live.
@@BlckSWANWhtRbbt Fascinating indeed and worthy of study. I wonder what drives them to live like that?
Mormon's can't be gay, they can only be "same sex attracted".
Has The Learning Channel taught you nothing?
I would sell my second born (already have a first born and they’re dope so I wanna keep em) for more episodes of this. Tlc truly dropped the ball not launching a full series on this. This and adopted at birth. Both could have jumpstarted a dozen new worth watching RUclips channels each.
Wtf?
Sorry but now it definitely has to be your first born, the whole point of the first born as a bargaining chip is their value over other children you may have. No one is going to continue this serious for anything as lowly as a second born.
I remember when TLC was truly a learning channel & watched The Operation religiously! Now it’s one freak show after another. Yikes!