Why The X-Men Franchise Failed

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  • Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024

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  • @ToddTheTolerable
    @ToddTheTolerable 5 лет назад +4006

    They just wouldn't let it end. Both Days of Future Past and Logan had perfect ending points for the franchise.

    • @serenityfirefly-1873
      @serenityfirefly-1873 5 лет назад +236

      Days of Future Past would have been an amazing finale for the team up movies if they'd had (a slightly better) Apocalypse BEFORE it. They rushed into it after only one movie of the younger cast.
      So it should have gone: X-Men, X2, The Last Stand, Origins, First Class, Apocalypse, The Wolverine, Days of Future Past, Logan.

    • @robert48044
      @robert48044 5 лет назад +4

      in Logan did they show the Hulk's and his family being Mobsters? I didnt see it but Ive been wondering about that. Like it would conflict with the Avengers version of Hulk.

    • @robert48044
      @robert48044 5 лет назад

      @Malo Tha Prophet I wonder if that was a mistake

    • @yourenotthatguypal3483
      @yourenotthatguypal3483 5 лет назад +32

      @@robert48044 Fox didn't own the rights to Hulk I'm pretty sure, plus I don't think it would've fit too well in Logan seeing at how realistic it was besides the Mutants. For Fox, the landowners of the Black family that kept on bullying them I guess were similar to the Hulk Family from the comics.

    • @robert48044
      @robert48044 5 лет назад +2

      @@yourenotthatguypal3483 i cant help but feel the way the charecters were sold has hurt the movie side of the comic books.

  • @romcarlos13
    @romcarlos13 5 лет назад +2360

    Days of Future Past would have been an amazing send-off.

    • @dankerbell
      @dankerbell 5 лет назад +109

      *Logan would like to know your location*

    • @grobanworldnews4216
      @grobanworldnews4216 5 лет назад +75

      I agree. DOFP was a perfect send off for both casts. Logan is a terrible send off because it dooms all the X Men and leaves us with a bunch of mutants kids we barely know.

    • @jph4889
      @jph4889 5 лет назад +71

      Just imagine. They COULD"VE made Apocalypse FIRST, lost to the big purple guy, and then done Days of the Future Past, where they go back in time to....stop him...wait, why does that sound familiar?

    • @miloa.2684
      @miloa.2684 5 лет назад +8

      @@jph4889 they did plan that at first but the studio did not want that

    • @Furkward
      @Furkward 5 лет назад +2

      @@jph4889 He wasn't purple lmao

  • @readwrecks
    @readwrecks 5 лет назад +745

    Another problem with the franchise was putting all of their eggs in the Wolverine basket. They never wanted to take the time to fully develop other characters.

    • @brandonp.6051
      @brandonp.6051 5 лет назад +93

      That was the most frustrating thing for me. Bryan Singer wouldn't stop blowing Wolverine at the expense of nearly everyone else, and most of the other filmmakers after him followed his lead.

    • @pittland44
      @pittland44 4 года назад +47

      To put it bluntly, they over relied on a lot of things. Brian Singer, Wolverine, the Xavier/Magneto relationship, bad adaptations, the actors rather than the characters (which was the problem with Cyclops is they kept casting him with dud actors, same with Angel, Banshee and a lot of the others). You have all this crazy shit in the X-Men's corner of the Marvel universe, and we never got to see any of it. How about the Brood? What About Genosha? Can we really see the Morlocks? A true Age of Apocalypse scenario? What if we were to go the Savage Land? And the one that really pisses me off because they teased at it but never delivered: Mr. Sinister and his obsession with Scott Summers and Jean Gray. If you want to do a more contained Scott and Jean story, do Sinister. Hell they did that on the fucking cartoon, and it worked like a charm.

    • @narenbaradwaj5058
      @narenbaradwaj5058 4 года назад +21

      @@pittland44 we also never got the starjammers, the shiaar empire,skrull space, proper version of genosha, madripoor, they completely ignored bishop, Cyclops,storm, rogue, angel and all those colorful iconic costumes and actual origins for mutants

    • @pittland44
      @pittland44 4 года назад +4

      @@narenbaradwaj5058 Damn Straight!

    • @SacredDaturaa
      @SacredDaturaa 4 года назад +22

      Agreed. I think Hugh Jackman being so fuckin great as Wolverine actually derailed the franchise a bit.

  • @jasonschmucker
    @jasonschmucker 5 лет назад +1836

    Days of Future Past was a perfect climax and Logan was a perfect epilogue. I choose to ignore everything that came after.

  • @BattlestarZenobia
    @BattlestarZenobia 5 лет назад +30

    I’ve never understood how Logan could have been a perfect ending given it completely ruins the upbeat and hopeful vision of the future given in Days if Future Past

    • @bryanthomas4907
      @bryanthomas4907 6 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah its by far the most vaunted. Not bad but not my fav.

    • @ethanstarbuck3124
      @ethanstarbuck3124 5 месяцев назад +1

      I know this is late, but I disagree; I see where you’re coming from, but it actually continues an idea from Days of Future Past: that time is a river that can’t be changed. The mutants still get wiped out around the same time as Days of Future Past, but in a different way

  • @Aaron-hh5tf
    @Aaron-hh5tf 5 лет назад +778

    Jeniffer Lawrence’s obvious disdain for her role as Mystique which showed in every movie she was in didn’t help either.

    • @blackphoenix77
      @blackphoenix77 5 лет назад +121

      She was only there because of contractual obligations: otherwise she would've bailed after First Class.

    • @jeffextreme5498
      @jeffextreme5498 5 лет назад +130

      I really don't blame her. I blame the changes they made with the character. Complete disgrace. And Rebecca was the perfect Mystique.

    • @Aaron-hh5tf
      @Aaron-hh5tf 5 лет назад +48

      Jeff Extreme I was thinking she didn’t like the role simply because the other actress looked so seductive as Mystique (Supermodel) whereas Jeniffer Lawrence’s looked pretty roundfaced

    • @jacobstewart6146
      @jacobstewart6146 5 лет назад +38

      I felt she tried in first class

    • @impulse5674
      @impulse5674 5 лет назад +27

      TheRealist 811 yeah that was retarded, in fact I don’t ever recall mystique saving everyone from an exploding mansion, I don’t recall mystique ever lifting a submarine, and to top it all off she says that right after she makes night crawler and quicksilver save everyone from the shuttle

  • @DickSenter
    @DickSenter 5 лет назад +734

    I cannot BELIEVE they made the perfect costumes at the end of Apocalypse and then DIDNT EVER USE THEM AGAIN

    • @DickSenter
      @DickSenter 5 лет назад +76

      ChandSlam Apocalypse wasn’t great, but it’s last scene was! With the comic-accurate costumes and danger room!

    • @EasyCure0
      @EasyCure0 5 лет назад +61

      @@DickSenter I know man. Cyclops and nightcrawler looked so badass. It made me so hyped for whatever the sequel would be, until they revealed lame costumes. I would have given the movie a free pass just to see the X-Men versions I grew up with on the big screen

    • @magnamic5614
      @magnamic5614 5 лет назад +14

      Luke Senter,
      Honestly, IMO, they’re weren’t that good or perfect at the end of Apocalypse. They were just ok and a slight nod. As all Fox X-Men things are. Just ok and just a movie.

    • @tornadochaser2457
      @tornadochaser2457 5 лет назад +6

      @@DickSenter I'm guessing the costumes were deemed too goofy and out-there for the more grounded tone of Dark Phoenix. The leap to yellow costumes was willing to be made, but all the different standout colours was seen as too much.

    • @DickSenter
      @DickSenter 5 лет назад +14

      Tornado Chaser Well that’s just part of the reason why this last X-Men movie fails

  • @MeganSin
    @MeganSin 5 лет назад +329

    If I were to adapt X-men, I wouldn’t have it be a movie. I think it needs to be a tv series. There are so many stories and characters in the X-men (the X-men are the wu tang clan of the comic book world) so give it an 8-10 episode run on a streaming service, 1 hr an episode for maybe 5-6 seasons/series I think you could do it justice

    • @MeganSin
      @MeganSin 5 лет назад +35

      ChandSlam that’s kinda what I was thinking. X-men is probably the only comic book that would benefit more from a tv show format than movies. That’s kinda why the animated show was so great. Or they do what they did with Spider-Man and not really do n origin movie because we know his origins story. Except they need more justice for the origin story

    • @camm8642
      @camm8642 5 лет назад +16

      I kind of agree even though I think you can do movies to get the most out of something like xmen a long serial type of series or format I think is best there are just so many characters heroes,supporting characters,villians its like its own mini universe in scope and its very heavy on character development and relationships and obviously the social commentary its different from the avengers and should be treated as such.

    • @PennyAfNorberg
      @PennyAfNorberg 4 года назад +2

      The gifted?

    • @famousbowl9926
      @famousbowl9926 4 года назад

      Yaaa... No.

    • @piyushnagawat24
      @piyushnagawat24 4 года назад +1

      Then starting standalone series of popular characters form original xmen tv series... Like they did with the CW shows of DC(flash, arrow, supergirl) or like defenders like individual then a series binding thrn together....

  • @arianrahman5886
    @arianrahman5886 5 лет назад +1024

    Logan was literally the perfect ending, bittersweet but perfect. They have completely tarnished their legacy with Dark Phoenix, going out on a whimper.

    • @fernie-fernandez
      @fernie-fernandez 5 лет назад +1

      Then where’s Laura...!?

    • @ciaranmcloughlin7165
      @ciaranmcloughlin7165 5 лет назад +5

      They shouldn't have bothered. Honestly.

    • @fernie-fernandez
      @fernie-fernandez 5 лет назад +1

      @@ciaranmcloughlin7165 Then how would MCU bother Dark Phoenix...!?

    • @weavehole
      @weavehole 5 лет назад +18

      It’s not ruined if nobody watches it!
      Maybe that was their cunning plan.

    • @fernie-fernandez
      @fernie-fernandez 5 лет назад

      @ChandSlam But, will it be CGI-infested with several characters that are recasted and change of race...!?

  • @NicVegas
    @NicVegas 5 лет назад +92

    Gambit has been my favorite character since the 90s and I have yet to see a good adaptation of him for film. Crossing my fingers for the MCU

    • @onemorerep6597
      @onemorerep6597 5 лет назад +7

      I know right, thats a great character and they don’t even use him.

    • @l.blanton3019
      @l.blanton3019 5 лет назад +6

      He was on point in wolverine origins,they need to do his origins with rogues and show how she got Ms marvel powers

    • @ScarlettFevers
      @ScarlettFevers 4 года назад +2

      Nic Vegas Channing Tatum was supposed to be playing him, but I haven’t heard that in awhile now

    • @LukeLovesRose
      @LukeLovesRose 4 года назад +3

      They'll have to replace Hugh Jackman as the most beloved character somehow. Gambit seems like a perfect candidate

    • @25-keys44
      @25-keys44 3 года назад +1

      @Craig Arnott that sounds fucking grim

  • @mixedbagclips2511
    @mixedbagclips2511 5 лет назад +290

    They kind of forgot to make consistent movies...

    • @euanjackson811
      @euanjackson811 5 лет назад +10

      The young X men films were consistent they were all ten years apart but the characters didnt age

    • @blyzer7373
      @blyzer7373 5 лет назад +18

      @@euanjackson811 What? How is that consistent?

    • @blyzer7373
      @blyzer7373 5 лет назад +5

      @@euanjackson811 Oh i get it. Nevermind.

    • @MrRiddle0
      @MrRiddle0 5 лет назад +12

      They were consistent in the fact that not one movie was consistent

    • @moscreefus
      @moscreefus 4 года назад +2

      I think they're pretty consistently flaccid

  • @caiorezei
    @caiorezei 3 года назад +62

    Just imagine how insane it would be if Evan Peters became Quicksilver in the MCU outta nowhere hahahahaha

    • @AsaBrooks
      @AsaBrooks 3 года назад +15

      @Aaron A420 I can't tell if you know or if you don't know.

    • @darthvenom305671
      @darthvenom305671 3 года назад +16

      hehehee Bohner

    • @LadyAstarionAncunin
      @LadyAstarionAncunin 2 года назад +2

      Not really a fan. I can't stand how awful he looks. He looks like a cosplayer. I'd rather see the tall, muscular guy that we got in the comics. That goes for Magneto too. Where's the muscle-bound intellectual silverfox?

    • @conserztasfia0078
      @conserztasfia0078 Год назад +1

      @@LadyAstarionAncunin I guess u like the avengers' quicksilver instead

    • @drlca6601
      @drlca6601 4 месяца назад

      @@LadyAstarionAncunin you must be eating good w '97 then lmao

  • @achimsinn7782
    @achimsinn7782 5 лет назад +111

    I really like Wolverine, but if I would start fresh I would make sure that other characters like Cyclops, Storm, Nightcrawler or Gambit would get their fair amount of screentime instead of focusing most of the movies on Wolverine. Especially as Hugh Jackman isn't available for the role anymore.
    Also, I know you said don'T put it in the MCU, but doing a Phoenix Saga movie that actually happens in Space would be a great crossover with the guardians of the galaxy.

    • @markchapman6800
      @markchapman6800 4 года назад +10

      Yes! The X-Men are a team, but that aspect has never worked in the movies. The story focuses on one or two characters, and the rest become warm scenery.

    • @pittland44
      @pittland44 4 года назад +11

      I would love to see a Disney Plus series that did a first class story that actually involves the original five X-Men (Cyclops, Beast, Jean Grey, Angel and Iceman) and then add X-Men in the order in which they joined in the comics (Banshee, Havok, Polaris, etc). Take your time and do a slow build. Have them learn to work together, and have them be a bunch of kids when we meet them and watch them grow.

    • @elderrusty541
      @elderrusty541 4 года назад +3

      Have Wolverine in them but have him come later, maybe give him his own movie and cross him over later

    • @Filthy_Larry
      @Filthy_Larry 3 года назад +5

      The first film in my universe wouldn’t even have wolverine in the movie until the sequel where he would be a secondary character who plays a big role and is a Canadian agent with memory loss hunting sabretooths scent.
      First film would have sentinels be the true main villains with magneto as a political villain and not an evil person but villainy
      Sinister would be the villain in the second. Sabretooth would be a scout who hunts down mutants for sinisters experiments. Cyclops gets the Luke skywalket spotlight while not over shadowing other x men. Apocalypse would be the emperor here as he is sinisters boss and the final villain the X-men face but sinister would be the headline character like Bain was in the dark knight.

    • @Filthy_Larry
      @Filthy_Larry 3 года назад +2

      @@elderrusty541 wolverine should be introduced in the immediate sequel but as a secondary character. Think of a gunner from expendables.

  • @CHASEMARC
    @CHASEMARC 5 лет назад +11

    A multi million dollar movie franchise that each time made its budget and more, made Hugh Jackman a household name, and includes the highest grossing rated R move to date (Deadpool) is a failure?
    Wish I failed that good in life

    • @sensei-lr4cj
      @sensei-lr4cj 3 года назад

      To be honest it's not the X-Men, it's Wolverine and friends.

    • @athenajaxon2397
      @athenajaxon2397 3 года назад +3

      Honestly the only one of these movies that flopped was Dark Phoenix

  • @Manuel_B.
    @Manuel_B. 5 лет назад +38

    X-Men Origins: Wolverine's Jacket - thats all we get from that movie, where he got that jacket...

  • @da1king0fwakanda56
    @da1king0fwakanda56 5 лет назад +125

    Fox: I’m sorry for the films we’ve made
    Fans: You’re always sorry Fox & there’s always an excuse...but nobody cares anymore

    • @obsidian8180
      @obsidian8180 4 года назад +7

      Lol they arent even sorry. They just enjoy shitting on us. Teasing us with comic accurate moments in trailers and end of the films. Only to deliver a film that caters to general film audiences and not X-Men fans. And then they lure us back in again with another moment at the end. Fuckers

  • @mrdrewburrows
    @mrdrewburrows 5 лет назад +115

    'House of M' possibly the overarching theme of Wandavision??

    • @Beastinvader
      @Beastinvader 5 лет назад +19

      But perhaps she is the one makes mutants instead of destroying them.

    • @sidecharacter3193
      @sidecharacter3193 5 лет назад +1

      Beastinvader I hope not because then they’ll eventually get rid of the mutants when reversing it

    • @marvelousTUD
      @marvelousTUD 5 лет назад +12

      It will certainly set up House of M at the very least. It will reportedly deal with Wanda’s reality warping powers and an idealized 1950s-Essie version of the world that she creates in her own mind.

    • @bryans_cult
      @bryans_cult 5 лет назад

      @@marvelousTUD link me the source.

    • @marvelousTUD
      @marvelousTUD 5 лет назад +1

      Dude, Google it

  • @cedarstriprocketship8222
    @cedarstriprocketship8222 5 лет назад +116

    I blame Nick Mason.

    • @zepp_broski2404
      @zepp_broski2404 5 лет назад +13

      Daniel Taylor drummer for Floyd?

    • @EasyCure0
      @EasyCure0 5 лет назад +2

      @@Basil-Spice don't forget he's the King of icecream

    • @magnamic5614
      @magnamic5614 5 лет назад +1

      Daniel Taylor,
      I was going to write, “How dare you blame my man crush!!!” Then I read the replies to your comment. Now I love your comment.

    • @EasyCure0
      @EasyCure0 5 лет назад

      @@magnamic5614 he's such a man crush, yum yum yum!

    • @DerHammerSpricht
      @DerHammerSpricht 5 лет назад

      I blame Taddy Mason

  • @bronzeliver6735
    @bronzeliver6735 3 года назад +51

    How to fix the x man franchise.
    1. Erase apocalypse, dark Phoenix and origins from existence
    2. Done

    • @agentofchaos7456
      @agentofchaos7456 3 года назад

      What is your buff with Phoenix?

    • @charlespuruncajas9663
      @charlespuruncajas9663 3 года назад +8

      I’d do a remake of Apocalypse but with a better design for the villain

    • @goatfarmer4785
      @goatfarmer4785 3 года назад +1

      @@agentofchaos7456 Phoenix has too much powered
      And she got killed by wolverine
      Seriously????????????????
      The greatest weapon in x men is imotion 😂😂

    • @sheepnari4373
      @sheepnari4373 2 года назад

      @@agentofchaos7456 really? It was a usless adition to the movies

    • @agentofchaos7456
      @agentofchaos7456 2 года назад +1

      @@sheepnari4373 Its purpose was to help set-up a new saga.

  • @LordMichaelRahl
    @LordMichaelRahl 5 лет назад +244

    It could have been worse, I'm personally glad for the things they did right, most of all Hugh-Jacked-Man.

    • @keith1984rich
      @keith1984rich 5 лет назад +9

      It was worse. Dark Phoenix was a waste of film.

    • @jadeo6325
      @jadeo6325 4 года назад

      Hugh jackman actually killed it he wasn’t their original choice but he did a great job as Wolvie

    • @piyushnagawat24
      @piyushnagawat24 4 года назад

      Well said

    • @how_tragic
      @how_tragic 4 года назад

      Huge Jacked man

  • @robertobuenafe
    @robertobuenafe 5 лет назад +28

    *Am I the only one who loved that Gambit in Origins even if it's not "comic book accurate"?*
    *That was actually so cool.*

  • @ryuhitsuya21
    @ryuhitsuya21 5 лет назад +15

    First Class, Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, Days of Future Past.
    That sounds like a strong way to set up mutants, bring a massive threat, tell a more personal story as a consequence of the big threat, then a hail mary attempt to save the ruined world of the previous film.

  • @scooobydoo27
    @scooobydoo27 5 лет назад +16

    Dark Phoenix looks like a quick cash grabs by execs who knew the company was being sold.

  • @Brook11223
    @Brook11223 5 лет назад +152

    Continuity shmontinuity is what
    X-Men is all about.

    • @jdsmall13
      @jdsmall13 5 лет назад +2

      John Campea fan too?

  • @finned958
    @finned958 5 лет назад +20

    Phoenix wasn’t bad, but Mystique went from mysterious to traitor to preachy. Her character evolved to where I couldn’t figure her out and she died in the end. X-Men timeline was weird.

  • @captcrais101
    @captcrais101 5 лет назад +22

    I hope when the MCU does these characters they do some different stories that Fox never got too. I would like to see Sinister, Brood, Alpha Flight, The Phalanax, and Asteroid M.

    • @Bingo_the_Pug
      @Bingo_the_Pug Год назад +2

      I’m a time traveler from the future and I’m here to tell you, the franchise was better in Fox’s hands than Disney’s. Extremely hard to believe but you’ll see in due time

  • @Getwright-
    @Getwright- 5 лет назад +54

    Costume design wise, Frank quietly's new man uniforms were inspired by the first movie costumes. So these uniforms are crappy versions of comic uniforms that were designed to work in a live action setting

    • @Zenocius
      @Zenocius 5 лет назад +3

      More like the blue man group

    • @markchapman6800
      @markchapman6800 4 года назад +2

      I liked even the first X-Men movie at the time, but stopped reading the comics, their adoption of the boring movie costumes being one reason (the unexplained reboot which introduced the new costumes was the main reason).

    • @ProjektTaku
      @ProjektTaku 2 года назад

      I wish for last stand too inspiration from frank quietly x-men suits, with splashes of yellow over the leather.
      Then apocalypse would follow on the costume design path first class was on, and give them their comic accurate suits for the final battle, and dark phoenix would have them all throughout.

  • @Browntaku10
    @Browntaku10 5 лет назад +41

    Reboot complete and adapt the first season of the 90’s cartoon with modern implications

    • @pittland44
      @pittland44 4 года назад +3

      I would love to see a night of the sentinels movie. And have it end on kind of a down note. Beast is in jail. Morph is dead (or is he?). Scott and Logan are at each others throats, and then proceed from there.

    • @choosiheng5493
      @choosiheng5493 4 года назад +1

      That's cartoon series perfectly sums up my childhood. And who can forget the best cartoon theme somg

    • @ShadowBanned-o_O
      @ShadowBanned-o_O 4 года назад +1

      YES! This is what I've been saying. It was executed so well. The X-Men were already established, no need for origin stories. And through Jubilee as a new character we were able to catch up with all the X-Men characters and the plot while still having action packed episodes.

  • @julianlora_
    @julianlora_ 5 лет назад +45

    fix without going to the mcu? bring in the bishop and cable stories. more alternate timelines.

    • @rossbatten2912
      @rossbatten2912 5 лет назад +6

      Either of those characters in a Terminator type movie coming back to save a doomed future would be really 90s and I'd love it. Bishop is my favourite X-men character of all time.

  • @moviehermit5631
    @moviehermit5631 4 года назад +5

    A big part of what makes or breaks a movie is the antagonist.
    X-men: Magneto and his extremist methods and the regular people prejudiced against mutants
    X-Men 2: Stryker manipulating the facts, creating a story that gives him more power, as well as his connection to Logans past
    X-Men 3: Same as X-men 1, as well as Jean coming back to life, but very unhinged (not entirely fleshed out, which was a part of the movie not being well received)
    X-men Origins Wolverine: Stryker, the manipulation of Logan, Victor, Logans animal nature, etc (Just a bit too much, which lead to nothing feeling fleshed out)
    The Wolverine: Logans mortality, how he's tired, but has never been able to settle down and be happy. Always in a war, and always being the last one standing among enemies as well as friends.
    Logan: Endings as well as new beginnings. Logan is old, his healing factor is failing, and everyone he's ever known is now gone. He and Laura are hunted down by a government branch as well as the physical representation of Logans rage, his animal nature and how his life is nothing but a blood soaked war-zone.
    X-Men First Class: Schmidt, his connection to Magneto, the threat of Nuclear war, and the fear of the unknown that is now revealed to the world
    X-Men Days of Future Past: Time itself, both in the threat of the future, and the mistakes of the past
    X-men Dark Phoenix: Random aliens that lost an energy that latched onto Jean (who also has memories locked away to keep her in check), no real personal connection and it's just the X-men trying to find and reason with Jean while the Brotherhood is trying to kill her. All this while public opinion on mutants went from _really well_ to _We hate you_ overnight
    Edit: I completely forgot about Apocalypse
    X-men apocalypse: Random ancient mutant (which doesn't make sense cause mutants were supposed to show up after the nuclear age, accelerating evolution). A team of random mutants that have little to no personality or purpose o(other than magneto)
    Gradually, these films just became a set-up for a big final battle with meaningless characters that look cool, but lacks any actual heart

  • @AlMaghreb.
    @AlMaghreb. 5 лет назад +28

    Well we have old steve rogers now…

  • @ronki23
    @ronki23 5 лет назад +3

    It wasn't a failure. It made money. X Men, X2, First Class and Days of Future Past are in my top 10 Superhero movies

  • @35antonio
    @35antonio 5 лет назад +163

    I would love to see old man Spider-Man with Tobey Maguire

    • @ruifigueiredo5486
      @ruifigueiredo5486 5 лет назад +1

      we might get that lol i heard somewhere that the next spiderman movie after far from home is a spiderverse movie

    • @diegom-a7970
      @diegom-a7970 5 лет назад +4

      I really want Tobey in a Wes Anderson movie

    • @glazinghost5951
      @glazinghost5951 5 лет назад +3

      That would be Spider-Man: Reign

    • @abovethelaw4417
      @abovethelaw4417 5 лет назад +5

      Tobey is the best Spider-Man

    • @ryanpeters4415
      @ryanpeters4415 5 лет назад

      You mean dead mj cuz of radioactive spider semen? That's a real fucking comic...

  • @chiip90
    @chiip90 3 года назад +10

    They weren't great films because they didn't explore the character's motivations enough.
    For example; why is Cyclops the leader? He wasn't the most powerful (Iceman/Jean) or the most intelligent (Beast). If you read the early comics you know its because of all the original X-men he was the only one that could only use his power to kill, or at least maim, enemies. There was no turning it down or off; if he beamed you you were done. This resulted in an individual with a huge sense of responsibility who understood that their actions had weight. That's why Charles picked him to be leader and groomed him to become the tactical master they needed.
    But in the movies he's bit part/irrelevant. Is it any surprise that the moves tended to be a bit shallow?
    The obvious exception is Logan; the film in which they explored motivation more than any other and it resulted in the best X-men film.

  • @jandiethervalero9906
    @jandiethervalero9906 5 лет назад +13

    What ironic about Old Man Logan is that, he’s already and Old Man even before he joined the X-Men!!!
    You know what’s an awesome idea?
    *Old Man Cyclops*
    Where he’s diagnosed with cataracts...

    • @606danco
      @606danco 5 лет назад +3

      Great scott thats a good idea

    • @MCThaQueen
      @MCThaQueen 3 года назад

      @@606danco i read that in doc browns voice from back to the future 😂

  • @DrowzyDruid
    @DrowzyDruid 5 лет назад +14

    I am very okay with Daredevil becoming the new
    '& Knuckles' meme replacement.
    E.G.
    'Chunky Vegetable soup
    with Swede, Carrot & Daredevil'
    Even works with songs -
    'Are you going to Scarborough Fair...
    Parsley, Sage, Rosemary & Thyme... & Daredevil'.

  • @battleupsaber462
    @battleupsaber462 5 лет назад +74

    Because Charles *didn't know what to do!*

    • @jph4889
      @jph4889 5 лет назад +12

      CHAAAALLLSSS

    • @squirrel9544
      @squirrel9544 5 лет назад +11

      *Idontknowwhattodo*

    • @mk6rfc1
      @mk6rfc1 5 лет назад +2

      Can’t believe that didn’t make the final cut

    • @zom8680
      @zom8680 5 лет назад

      @@jph4889 SHOW YOURSELF!!!!!

  • @lenardregencia
    @lenardregencia 5 лет назад +72

    I want to see Old Man Gary Oldman.

    • @shinbeet.5708
      @shinbeet.5708 4 года назад

      Who are you and why do you have my profile picture?

    • @pittland44
      @pittland44 4 года назад +2

      Isn't that just Gary Oldman?

  • @dennisjohansen8490
    @dennisjohansen8490 5 лет назад +17

    I've always wanted to see Age of Apocalypse adapted. That was a fantastic story.

    • @LoveProWrestling
      @LoveProWrestling 3 года назад +2

      but it only works because you are surprised to see familiar characters in new personas. Joe popcorn will not give a shit that Havok is different in this universe because whotf is Havok?

    • @dennisjohansen8490
      @dennisjohansen8490 3 года назад +1

      @@LoveProWrestling It works because it was a good story. I didn't know who half the characters were when I read the comic as a kid. That didn't keep me from seeing that it was a good storyline. With a couple exceptions, most of the characters were not really that far from their counterparts in the original story anyway. Just a different world setting.
      The studios need to stop pandering to "Joe Popcorn" anyway. That is why we have the garbage heap of X-Men movies that we do. Joe Popcorn doesn't know anything about any X-Men storyline so why would he give a shit about which one it is just so long as he can eat his popcorn?

  • @twelve11
    @twelve11 5 лет назад +10

    X-Men Danger Room Protocols. Look it up. That is what the X-men NEED to be

  • @ajmccorristin1125
    @ajmccorristin1125 5 лет назад +13

    It's simple do Dark Phonix 2 more times because as we all know the 5th one is where it gets good again

  • @williamavitt8264
    @williamavitt8264 4 года назад +3

    It lasted 20 years, kickstarted a superhero renaissance and made billions. Hardly a failure

  • @robertjohn8711
    @robertjohn8711 5 лет назад +31

    X men 1, x2, first class, days of future past, Deadpool, Logan, And Deadpool 2 were all great.

    • @ciaranmcloughlin7165
      @ciaranmcloughlin7165 5 лет назад +1

      The only bad ones were Last Stand, Origins, Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix.

    • @oldmanlogan9616
      @oldmanlogan9616 5 лет назад +4

      @@ciaranmcloughlin7165 dont you forget about The Wolverine.

    • @oldmanlogan9616
      @oldmanlogan9616 5 лет назад +2

      Days of Future Past wasnt that great at all, except for the Quicksliver scene.

    • @Lionize728
      @Lionize728 5 лет назад +4

      I really don't consider the Deadpools X-Men movies, but you're right, they were great.

    • @robertjohn8711
      @robertjohn8711 5 лет назад +4

      Vinicius RDLP Nonsense. It had an engaging plot, great dialogue, fun action, and heartfelt scenes. Easy best besides Logan

  • @wk3820
    @wk3820 5 лет назад +4

    It's no coincidence that the simpler stories like Logan or Deadpool outperformed the movies packed with too many characters. Sometimes less is more

  • @F1rsttimer
    @F1rsttimer 5 лет назад +7

    IT'S SIMPLE. TOO MANY ACTORS, WRITERS, AND DIRECTORS!

    • @Silenthitman44
      @Silenthitman44 5 лет назад

      Last stand (writer) ( beginning of the end the rise of Kinberg destroyer of x men and ff4)
      Part of days of Future past (writer, producer)
      Apocalypse ( writer, producer)
      Dark Pheonix ( writer, producer, director)
      Were written by the same person, Simon kinberg who steadily got more and more power and basically took a shit on it's source material, continuity

  • @plissken151
    @plissken151 5 лет назад +6

    "How to fix the X-men franchise?" -Obvious answer= Give it to Kevin Fiege.

  • @theproceedings4050
    @theproceedings4050 5 лет назад +10

    I think the X-Men series failed because the heroes weren't individual, they over emphasized the group and deemphasized the individual thoughts and feelings of most of the actors. The avengers is great because there is always tension between the heroes because they all have their own beliefs and ideas.

    • @Dave102693
      @Dave102693 5 лет назад +2

      But they are a group. That's how they are in the conics.

    • @jeffextreme5498
      @jeffextreme5498 5 лет назад +1

      That doesn't make sense. They are a group. That's the entire point. And the first two X-Men movies did show a lot of individual stories. I love the Avengers movies. I also love the first two X-Men.

    • @theproceedings4050
      @theproceedings4050 5 лет назад +1

      Im not trying to say they arent a group, im saying that theyre a group with individuals without their own well defined proclivities, which in my opinion make the group very one dimensional.

  • @narcspector
    @narcspector 5 лет назад +5

    “I fix the carburetor for YOU”
    “You fix it? You can’t fix it.”
    - Longmont Potion Castle

  • @StreeTHiPHoP131
    @StreeTHiPHoP131 5 лет назад +26

    Ahhh so this is your magnum opus... well played Mr sunday

  • @alqu6375
    @alqu6375 5 лет назад +2

    My question is why of all the awesome female characters in x-man, why did they pick Mystique as their "go to gal" and kinda screw all they other x-woman over? I mean really?! Poor Storm, Rogue, Kitty, Psylocke, Jubliee and even Jean Gray to some extent. :(

    • @jeffextreme5498
      @jeffextreme5498 5 лет назад +1

      Yep. This. And that's on the crew, not on Lawrence.

  • @facuuaf
    @facuuaf 5 лет назад +5

    Well, it's the fourth highest grossing franchise and 8 out of 13 are certified fresh, so I don't think it truly failed

  • @QuietGuitaristfan
    @QuietGuitaristfan Год назад +1

    You mentioned the first Ironman, but the universe hadn't been established. The reason the Ironman changes worked was because these characters weren't popular in the comics initially. The most popular comic characters from Marvel were Spider-man, Fantastic 4, and X-men.

  • @maeentell3259
    @maeentell3259 5 лет назад +5

    Them: U wanna sea old man Captain America...
    Me: No, I don't think you will...

  • @isthatmarri1221
    @isthatmarri1221 2 года назад +2

    I don't count Logan as canon cause they did the characters so dirty by killing them all

  • @Dardessia
    @Dardessia 5 лет назад +31

    I've just realised, having the entire Dark Phoenix plot occur in X3 is VERY comparable to the treatment of Danaerys in the last GoT season...

    • @obsidian8180
      @obsidian8180 4 года назад

      This is true. Very true

    • @Dragon.um5tz
      @Dragon.um5tz 5 месяцев назад

      Fun fact, the same douche Lords, who gave that treatment to Danaerys in the final season of GOT, also was responsible for the even worse abomination is X-Men origins: Wolverine

  • @theswanprince9875
    @theswanprince9875 4 года назад +2

    The X-Men franchise didn't fail. With twelve films released, the X-Men film series is the eighth highest-grossing film series, having grossed over $6 billion worldwide. Even the worst movie Dark Phoenix made money. On a budget of $200 million it made $252.4 million.

  • @spacepopeXIV
    @spacepopeXIV 3 года назад +8

    Loving the love for Days of Future Past, that movie is pretty pretty good, very entertaining and feels very X-Men.

  • @eliasmejia7862
    @eliasmejia7862 4 года назад +9

    Would have been nice to see more individual stories in movies from the characters and not have them relied on wolverine to carry the franchise and have everything leading up to the X-men forming like avengers maybe it just got hard for them to balance every character on screen

  • @iyabatt
    @iyabatt 4 года назад +6

    Re-watching this video and I feel that they focused too much on certain characters and put Wolverine front and centre way too much. The x-men are meant to be ensemble films with each character explored and fleshed out.
    I've seen other comments on different videos like this one saying about how characters like Storm, Cyclops, Psylocke, Iceman etc getting little to no character development.
    I do think the MCU has done a brilliant job of making viewers care for each character in the ensemble films and the origin films.

  • @ImFunTime
    @ImFunTime 4 года назад +8

    “We need an old captain America.” 1 month or so before endgame released

  • @SmokeyLaBear
    @SmokeyLaBear 5 лет назад +4

    This is some of the best editing I've seen on this channel, especially 1:04

  • @bwillythekid8249
    @bwillythekid8249 5 лет назад +5

    Failed? There's about 10 films. How can that be a failure?

    • @toddreyes2487
      @toddreyes2487 4 года назад

      Most of them sucked

    • @landrysaathoff2418
      @landrysaathoff2418 4 года назад

      I mean, they were super hit and miss. It’s not fair to say that most of them are one way or the other.

  • @curlysmith101
    @curlysmith101 5 лет назад +20

    X-Men the actors of the original VS Planet broadcasting... Standard American football pitch... Go

    • @torcoolguy
      @torcoolguy 5 лет назад +1

      I mean, James did do Karate, so...

    • @curlysmith101
      @curlysmith101 5 лет назад +2

      Also James' special move - baby James with a big sandwich - unstoppable!

  • @justinharris2272
    @justinharris2272 4 года назад +7

    I havent even watched the video yet but theres so many reasons. And it makes me sad. This is my favourite comic book franchise :/

    • @isaachanakuka3315
      @isaachanakuka3315 3 года назад +1

      I read the comics as a kid too.......so much material and they still messed it up .... why was mystique an x man? Because reasons

  • @Codemarla
    @Codemarla 5 лет назад +10

    "Age of Apocalypse" is my 2nd favourite comic story of ALL TIME. Id love to see a TV series adaptation of it. I think my love for it is why the terrible Apocalypse film hurt so much.

    • @analothor
      @analothor Год назад

      age apocalypse's story ending was terrible

    • @Codemarla
      @Codemarla Год назад +1

      @@analothor It did just kind of limp out at the end yeah. it suffered from the problem that it was a comic so everything had to return to normal at the end. If it was adapted id like to see a change to the end.

    • @analothor
      @analothor Год назад

      @@Codemarla at least with x men Apocalypse the idea of phoenix killing Apocalypse isn't completely far fetched

    • @cjlister8508
      @cjlister8508 Год назад

      @@analothor Disagree, I hated that. Apocalypse was built up as being so powerful then was killed very quickly in a very un-satisfying way. Given how he was killing people with mind controlled grains of sand earlier in the film, it made no sense why he just stood around doing basically nothing.

    • @analothor
      @analothor Год назад

      @@cjlister8508 no I mean in terms of power scaling, the phoenix is a multiversal entity in normal context it makes sense as to why apocalypse shouldn't be able to beat that but not in this film where the phoenix wasn't given any build at all

  • @merciless41582
    @merciless41582 2 года назад +7

    One word, INCONSISTENT!!! They had Magneto and Mystique villains in the 1st movie, had them as allies in the 2nd movie, and had them as villains again in the 3rd movie. The only X Men movie that is great is Days of Future Past.
    How the X Men were portrayed in the 1992 animated series is how the X Men are supposed to be portrayed. Not to mention, Rogue wasn’t the badass she was in the animated series. I look at Anna Paquin’s Rogue as a disgrace.

  • @Maladjester
    @Maladjester 3 года назад +3

    "The first one that loses money will be the last one we make." -Hollywood's Golden Rule

  • @buffyoda3420
    @buffyoda3420 4 года назад +3

    X-Men: The Last Stand “great send off”
    X-Men: Days of Future Past “great send off”
    X-Men: Apocalypse “great send off”
    Logan “great send off”
    X-Men: Dark Phoenix “great send off”

    • @rosshauler7688
      @rosshauler7688 3 года назад +1

      Tbh I wouldn’t really call Last stand or Apocalypse films that were meant to be send offs

  • @ewimp
    @ewimp 5 лет назад +16

    Nearly half of these movies stand the test of time...
    The others are completely forgettable but still...

    • @kendallhurley8596
      @kendallhurley8596 5 лет назад

      But they're shouldn't really be considered x men movies

    • @nossasenhoradoo871
      @nossasenhoradoo871 4 года назад

      "Nearly half of these movies stand the test of time."
      But there is no time. That is why Star Wars got "improved".

  • @justice_productions_
    @justice_productions_ 5 лет назад +3

    I would love to see the introduction of the Xmen and Brother hood in the MCU be them running at eachother just like the intro to the 90s series

  • @NickNitro03
    @NickNitro03 5 лет назад +6

    Days of Future Past was gorgeous

  • @jordanthomas4379
    @jordanthomas4379 4 года назад +2

    The "Logan" movie was much more like the "death of wolverine" comic than it was "old man logan".

  • @PopCross
    @PopCross 5 лет назад +4

    Just scrolling through the comments to see if the 'deadpool's in his own space' guy is here

  • @qasimsid09
    @qasimsid09 5 лет назад +1

    Forgetting that the Spider-Man 2002 originally wanted Hugh Jackman to make a cameo as wolverine.

  • @maxhydekyle2425
    @maxhydekyle2425 5 лет назад +9

    I don't really care about the costumes being comic book accurate I just want them to be interesting. A good chunk of the MCU costumes are completely different from the comics, but they're usually at least interesting. My favorite example is the Endgame white outfits, they're completely new, but they make sense and they're interesting enough.

    • @fernie-fernandez
      @fernie-fernandez 5 лет назад

      You know FOX tried to avoid comic-book accurate costume for the live-action X-Men for a nitty-gritty world where Mutants are hated and enslaved for weaponry, but since Last Stand was failed, a planned 4th film was planned way before the 3rd, and after that...an anthology set of films was planned like Origins: Wolverine, but due to the criticisms, including Deadpool’s appearance, it was later scrapped...
      Now the MCU released The Avengers, and FOX took notes from it...

    • @maxhydekyle2425
      @maxhydekyle2425 5 лет назад

      @@fernie-fernandez Ya I do know...

  • @ThatoneGuy-uk6cd
    @ThatoneGuy-uk6cd 5 лет назад +1

    the x-men series is a peak example of a studio not knowing the right place to stop. They could have stopped at X3 and left it there, and MAYBE continued with like x-men apocalypse or something.

    • @ThatoneGuy-uk6cd
      @ThatoneGuy-uk6cd 5 лет назад +2

      i mean its like star wars. nobody asked for another movie, nobody NEEDED another movie, because it was fine the way it was left off.

  • @justafidemyself
    @justafidemyself 5 лет назад +5

    Failed ? This is the franchise that gave us X-Men, X2, Days of Future Past, First Class, Logan, etc.

    • @jbo4547
      @jbo4547 4 года назад +2

      And had hugeee failures/shit movies with Origins, X3, the Wolverine, apocalypse, phoenix..... come on brah

    • @mazengwe28
      @mazengwe28 4 года назад +1

      Days of Fututre past was horrible.

    • @zackwoodd4606
      @zackwoodd4606 4 года назад +1

      @@jbo4547 The XCU isn't perfect but the movies Cedric mentioned are all top tier comic book movies and beat the silly MCU movies that rather have dumb humor instead of actual storytelling

    • @67namrajoshi51
      @67namrajoshi51 3 года назад

      @@zackwoodd4606 no where near MCU

  • @FragileCreatures
    @FragileCreatures 5 лет назад +1

    Film one: set in the 60s. Xmen are Cyclops, Jean Grey, Iceman, Angel and Beast. Naive, colourful. They defeat a young Magneto and become celebrities.
    Film two: late 70s. A darker XMen made up of Storm, Wolverine, Banshee, Starfire, Nightcrawler, and Colussus investigate the disappearance of the original, celebrity XMen 10 years prior. Prof X is a recluse, traumatised by those events. By the end of the film we have Cyclops and Jean back, but Scott is amnesiac, and Jean is cagey and has adopted the code name Phoenix. Struggle is against Mr Sinister, but we're still left with few answer as to what happened to the team.
    Film three: 80s. Jean has left again. Scott and Logan form a strained alliance, delving into Logans lost past. We discover Alpha Flight, the sentinel programme, Sabretooth, Lady Deathstrike, all government efforts to harness and control mutant powers. Logan learns of his experiment. Eventually they discover the original XMen were not taken by the weapon X programme, but stolen by Apocalypses herald Omega Red, to become his Horsemen.
    Film four: Apocalypse is attempting to take over World. His horseman include an altered Beast, Angel and Iceman, along with Omega Red. It turns out Scott and Jean were rescued by Mr Sinister who didn't want the end of the world, but Jean manifested a strange new power set which made Sinister fear her even more than Apocalypse. The X Men get trashed by Apocalypse and his horsemen, until Jean arrives and destroys Apocalypse freeing the original XMen who must now deal with the mutilation done to them when Apocalypse upped their power set.
    Final film; its Dark Phoenix. Jean is now lost to the power of the Phoenix force which wants to burn earth clean and start again in its cycle of death and renewal of power. The XMen must unite with their old nemesis Magneto, who followed his 60s and 70s years as a mutant terrorist by establishing the island nation of Genosha and building a peaceful brotherhood. Phoenix kills most of the mutants. They team up against Phoenix but many are killed and maimed before Logan ultimately kills her thanks to his regeneration. They lost so much along the way. Scott will never Forgive Logan for failing to rescue Jean from the force. Mutant kind are on the verge of extinction. Charles and Magnus vow to work together, to build a new Genosha in harmony with the world powers who recognise their contribution to saving the planet from extincrion.
    If there's insane demand five years later we do Onslaught and it's totally fucked up!

  • @KennethEstrellaTV
    @KennethEstrellaTV 4 года назад +4

    "They could have called it Fantastic Four and another guy" 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @mikeyone100
    @mikeyone100 4 года назад +1

    No X-Men theme Music, No costumes, No personality in the characters if you don’t love the comic you don’t do it justice.

  • @christianbaker3564
    @christianbaker3564 3 года назад +3

    It's sad it had to go out the way it did cuz I loved the first two and still do. They paved the way for the modern superhero movies

  • @scottytc
    @scottytc 4 года назад +1

    I think they intentionally understated "First Class" so it wouldn't compete against the Avengers era. At the same time it made them a lot of money and allowed them to re-birth the X-Men.

  • @hamilangelobanag8432
    @hamilangelobanag8432 5 лет назад +49

    MCU could use the A vs X saga, with the Phoenix 5

    • @bartistclord1916
      @bartistclord1916 5 лет назад +4

      Yes they could, but to be good, it would have to be AFTER 10 movies of X-Men, 5 movies of Phoenix Saga, ending in Dark Phoenix, Then after Onslaught, After House of M.
      THEN do Phoenix 5... your suggestion is like "Fox should keep ruining these movies by jumping to the last page of a 2000 page story, Just like they did both times with dark phoenix."

    • @somebuddyX
      @somebuddyX 5 лет назад

      Taking out the Phoenix story element, they could do an Avengers vs X-Men after a couple of X-Men solo films, similar to Civil War. The New Avengers are already familiar to audiences and should be moreso after even more of their own films, it's just the X-Men who'd need to be established. I think Phoenix won't be used again for a long while.

    • @iamphoenix1086
      @iamphoenix1086 5 лет назад

      Fox in making xmen movies. They are too focused on lifting one character. They only lift logan. So the phoenix is ​​ignored. Lack of character development. It's one of the things that should be improved by Marvel Studio.

    • @93King
      @93King 5 лет назад

      @@bartistclord1916
      They don't HAVE to do it that way. There are so many ways to tell a story. If you believe every story has to be told the way Marvel did with the MCU, then you lack creativity.

    • @bartistclord1916
      @bartistclord1916 5 лет назад

      @@93King If they jump to the phoenix 5, that would be crap story-telling, then we would get a dozen prequels.
      I hate prequels. flashbacks are lame. Tell the story in order.
      Why would the makers of Endgame ,(2.78 billion dollars), want to throw away the way they make money to jump on a 2015 story ? Yes, you are correct, they don't HAVE to do it that way, they could follow Rian or Zac's way of making movies.

  • @donnygv27
    @donnygv27 4 года назад +1

    One thing i always disliked about the x-men movies, at least the original ones, were how they always found some way to have cyclops excluded from almost the entirety of the plot

  • @ShadowBanned-o_O
    @ShadowBanned-o_O 4 года назад +6

    How to bring the franchise back? That's easy. First, stick to the comics. Second, no more origin stories. Majority of the world knows who the X-Men are at this point, so no need to go over it again. If you don't know, who cares. If the movie is done well you wont need origin stories, the 90's animated series did a great job with this. Third, if you intend on making a trilogy (bunch of movies) make one badass story-line that will expand through multiple sequels and stick with it. They did this in the first trilogy making it revolve around Wolverine, which was a mistake. Wolverine is my favorite comic character, but these were "X-MEN" movies. They need to give the rest of the team more screen/story time. Just my opinion..

  • @hoochiemoochie89
    @hoochiemoochie89 5 лет назад +2

    I will never understand why people like X-Men 1. I just always felt bored with it and there were so many parts and characters that were dumb and/or useless (Sabretooth, Toad, and Storm for instance). There are scenes I like, but most of them are when Patrick Stewart and/or Ian McKellen are present.

  • @saturncrush
    @saturncrush 5 лет назад +5

    Because it was never taking seriously from the beginning.

    • @wolfgang6442
      @wolfgang6442 3 года назад +1

      Pretty much, but let's hope the the next iteration is a lot better

  • @cottontail1039
    @cottontail1039 4 года назад +2

    8:11 Actually, I always thought that there should be a Nightcrawler/Daredevil crossover. Daredevil's blind and works at night, so nobody would be able to see Nightcrawler (who happens to have night vision) and Daredevil wouldn't judge him by the way he looks. Also, Matt jumps off buildings while Nightcrawler is an acrobat who could teleport and stick to walls. They're even both Catholic.

  • @joshuapace636
    @joshuapace636 5 лет назад +6

    I think a main reason the MCU succeeded where X-Men failed was that the MCU characters didn't just have distinct personalities, but they embodied distinct principles. The beating heart of the MCU were Captain America (who stood for honor, duty, and innate goodness) and Iron Man (intelligence, ingenuity, self-determination). The X-Men characters may have different personalities, but they don't embody specific principles, or when they did, they are often wildly inconsistent between films. Put another way, the MCU characters are tonally diverse and colorful, while the X-Men are tonally muted and gray--and therefore, ultimately, not that interesting (despite having cool powers).

  • @StreetHierarchy
    @StreetHierarchy 4 года назад +1

    They should have ended it after X2. They've always been too eager to get into the Dark Phoenix thing.

  • @thefuzzyone933
    @thefuzzyone933 5 лет назад +5

    A 20 year run is a failure? I know there was some big missteps over the years, but come on.

    • @loudboy317
      @loudboy317 5 лет назад +1

      That's exactly what I was thinking.

    • @ScarlettFevers
      @ScarlettFevers 4 года назад

      The Fuzzy One yes.... a failure. I’m not a success and I’m 35. Time doesn’t equal that.... we all watched the first one because we love the x men...that money made a sequel a given, so they did...it sucked, but made money because we watched it anyways thinking it would be goood...it sucked, and we were done. Then they dropped their best 2 films with first class and days of future past...they were amazingly refreshing and we were back on board. Then they ruined Apocalypse.... then Dark Phoenix... shit, Wolverine films, MCU material, and Deadpool are why the x films even kept relevance between. 20 years of critical poop is still 20 years, and I commend them. But we ain’t into any X films anymore and that run did that for us

    • @zackwoodd4606
      @zackwoodd4606 4 года назад +1

      @@ScarlettFevers If a franchise goes on for 20 years, then it's not terrible. It does something right to have them keep making more. Notice the majority of people that say they suck are the people that hate that they arent like the comics. For people like myself who couldn't care less about the comics we like the movies a lot.

    • @ScarlettFevers
      @ScarlettFevers 4 года назад

      Zack Woodd money is why they stay running.... and 20 years isn’t an every year thing, so take that time frame w a grain of salt. I wouldn’t have wanted it to be like the comics because that’s stupid af in real life... what they did with it tho was just lackluster and depressing. I ain’t a fan. Kudos to u if u are...no malice

    • @zackwoodd4606
      @zackwoodd4606 4 года назад +1

      @@ScarlettFevers Within those 20 years they made 12 movies. The entire franchise changed the direction of the genre and predates even the first Spiderman. Don't you think that counts for something

  • @wallieincantors
    @wallieincantors 4 года назад +2

    The first 10 seconds “Im gonna squeak this one out thats xmen dark pheniox” 😂😂😂

  • @martinshanahan8851
    @martinshanahan8851 5 лет назад +7

    My ultimate X-Men/Deadpool movie ranking list from best to worst:
    1. Logan
    2. Days of Future Past
    3. Deadpool
    4. First Class
    5. Deadpool 2
    6. X-Men 3 (It's stupid I know but... dang it I love it)
    7. X-Men 2 (I know everyone says it's the best, and it is definitely the most well made of the OG trilogy, but I just don't have that much of a connection with it.)
    8. X-Men 1
    9. The Wolverine
    10. Apocalypse
    11. Origins
    And I haven't seen Dark Phoenix yet. Overall, with the exception of X3, my thoughts probably line up with most of the fandom.

    • @nadielleacosta6674
      @nadielleacosta6674 5 лет назад

      I recently rewatched all the movies in production order and my ranking looks somewhat similar to yours, aside from the Last Stand and X2.
      It goes like this:
      1. Deadpool
      2. Logan
      3. X2
      4. First Class
      5. Days Of The Future Past
      6. Deadpool 2
      7. The Wolverine
      8. X1
      9. Apocalypse
      10. The Last Stand
      11. X-Men Origins: Wolverine
      I haven't watched Dark Phoenix either but honestly, I'm satisfied with what I saw in these 11 movies and agree that Logan was a great send off. (By the way, you skipped the number 3)

    • @martinshanahan8851
      @martinshanahan8851 5 лет назад

      @@nadielleacosta6674 heh, good call about the numbering. Also, I completely agree. I don't hate any of the X-Men movies. Even the bottom of the barrel films like Origins and Apocalypse have some enjoyable acting and action scenes. Plus, each movie always shows off some fun new mutants (Besides Logan cuz y'know... They're all dead), so at the very least they all have that. X2 had Nightcrawler, X3 had Beast and Angel, Origins had Gambit, Days of Future Past had loads, etc. However, I must say that the studio interference in the last few films especially has really started to get on my nerves. Perhaps its for the best that the rights switched hands. But, we'll just have to see...

    • @oldmanlogan9616
      @oldmanlogan9616 5 лет назад +2

      1- X2
      2- First Class
      3- Logan
      4- Deadpool
      5- X-men
      6- Days of future past
      7- X-men the last stand
      8- Deadpool 2
      9- Origins Wolverine
      10-The Wolverine
      11- Apocalypse

  • @NashDwayne
    @NashDwayne 5 лет назад +1

    You guys just reminded me... Jean Grey has Phoenix power at the end of apocalypse!!!

  • @personM4N
    @personM4N 3 года назад +1

    They owned the rights to X-Men, and Aliens, and never did a Brood movie, and that's just pathetic.

  • @exzyyd392
    @exzyyd392 5 лет назад +10

    Legion episodes are an hour long and Xavier is gonna be in season 3 so if you watch 2 episodes back to back then they're better X-Men movies than the actual movies

    • @jeffextreme5498
      @jeffextreme5498 5 лет назад +1

      hahahaha I'm a fan of the show but your comment is hilarious. Yeah right.

    • @Boutiki
      @Boutiki 5 лет назад +1

      Hydraxion Voltage how do you know he's gonna be in legion? Season 3 i still need to watch that!!

    • @Nealrex101
      @Nealrex101 5 лет назад

      shit, is Legion out on any aussie streaming service? i’ve been dying to see it

    • @exzyyd392
      @exzyyd392 5 лет назад

      @@Boutiki In the trailer you can see him for a second wearing Cerebro. In the trailer's comments a few people have said that a certain actor has been cast as him (I've never heard of him so I'm not sure)

  • @nsasupporter7557
    @nsasupporter7557 3 года назад +1

    “Failed” isn’t the right word I don’t think. It went “downhill”

  • @TbYolo
    @TbYolo 5 лет назад +4

    They definitely should of finished the
    X Men Franchise with Logan that was the best movie in the franchise

  • @moonshinewizard
    @moonshinewizard 4 года назад +1

    In Dark Phoenix I kinda liked the costumes, but I still wanted to see the suits at the end of Apocalypse used in Dark Phoenix

  • @glogler
    @glogler 5 лет назад +5

    The biggest reason why the franchise failed is JENNIFER LAWRENCE