What the video fails to show is the Theler KBW Susten AG Gravel works just below the confluence, where they are clearly "mining" the rocks. They can't be using all of the material, to be sure, but it's nice to know that they can produce useful materials from the Illgraben.
Der Illgraben scheint der hotspot für Murenabgänge in Europa zu sein. Es ist toll, dass Sie dazu fast ohne Lücken berichten. Danke. (L'Illgraben semble être le point chaud des glissements de terrain en Europe. C'est formidable que vous en fassiez rapport avec presque aucun écart. Je vous remercie.)
If you look at a satellite view of the area, the slopes of Illhorn where the material erodes from are quite evident, and the Rhône has a braided channel downstream from Illgraben due to the extreme sediment load.
What does a braided channel mean David? Fascinating videos, especially the longer ones that name the mountains and show the slopes in all weathers and the channels. Hopefully one day they’ll explain about the concrete drop offs and whether the rock channels are natural, or manmade. I can see some are rock lined to prevent erosion.
@@mweskamppp That is logical as they lose weight each year through erosion they will get lighter and float higher on the water filled Earth. Here is a quote that you just might be able to understand: 1 Observe ye everything that takes place in the heaven, how they do not change their orbits, and the luminaries which are in the heaven, how they all rise and set in order each in its season, Behold the summer and the winter, how the whole earth is filled with water, and clouds and dew and rain lie upon it. This is Enoch speaking about the time of The Flood 4,350 years ago.
All that stuff ends up in the seas. Over unimaginably long periods of time. Big rocks turn into small pebbles, these turn into sand and the great mountains are eroded over millions of years. While elsewhere new ones pile up through the plate tectonics of the earth. For everyone living today, the mountains and our surroundings always look the same. But over eons some mountains will disappear, others will be added.
These debris flows occur several times a year and carry the material into the Rhone. During rainstorms, this leads to the clouding of the Rhone up to its mouth in Lake Geneva. So, to answer you question, it ends up as silt in the Rhone and Lake Geneva.
Your videos are absolutely wonderful…thank you for taking the time and energy to create such a concise record of fluvial geomorphilogical process. In this same vein, you might be interested in viewing some of the videos associated with the recent landslide that occurred on the Chilcotin River in British Columbia…there is some spectacular Y.T. footage of the results of the landslide and the eventual breach of the earthen plug that created a huge lake upstream of the slide, and the river running free again
It ends up everywhere; in deltas, on floodplains, in reservoirs, and it even contributes to the rising of the channelbed once the river slows down enough. Up there, the bed is still cutting downward every time this happens; lots of gravity potential energy up there.
Actually in this particular video non of the rocks will actually reach the sea. Less than half a mile down stream of where the two rivers are connected there is a huge Stone / Gravel / Sand production factory with huge crushing mills wich takes the rocks right from the river bank where the water and the mud drops them and transform them into building materials. Secondly some miles down stream is the huge lake of Lausanne and Geneva. The lake is deep. The river comes in from one end and exits from the other. Consider like a stomach in our digestive system. Any rocks escaped from the factory crushing will be digested by the lake. Finally the river enters France and runs half of the southern part. Lyon, Avignon and other cities and villages are at it's path to the sea. When it reaches the Mediterranean Sea a little West of Marseille it creates a small delta eventually but none of the rocks of this video is among the Delta's sentiments.
@@iggo45 Can someone who lives there do a video or a series of videos on what happens to the debris flow (Especially the huge boulders) once they enter the river? It would be nice to see the complete trip that all of this debris takes to get to its final resting place.
There's a hot seep, called Meagre Creek, west of Pemberton in British Columbia, Canada. You used to be able to camp right beside the river, where the seep originated, and pioneers and loggers had (slightly) developed. At night, before falling asleep in your tent, you could feel large boulders in the river slowly shifting downstream... The access to the site has been blocked, for years, due to the danger of rockslide in the area of the hot springs.
Thank you for your comment. I looked on the net where it is. I saw the image of the river with big boulders around and broken trees. Does it come when heavy rain ?
@@pierre-emmanuelzufferey1470 I'm not sure. The area all around has been leased (owned?) by a logging company, for decades... They actually developed it further, in the early 2000's, I believe. upgrading the original pools, providing handicap access, etc. But the danger became too much. So the logging company has permanently blocked all down road access to the site. unless you're intrepid...
So are psudeoacacia or the American black locust an invasive species over there? Pretty sure that's what those trees were? Regardless this erosion issue is unbelievable.
It all goes down the Rhône to the Mediterranean Sea. It seems to have filled a canyon at the mouth of the river that was supposed to be 12.000 feet deep when the Mediterranean Sea dried up during the Pleistocene Ice ages. Edit: Christian Muller provided information that the debris in going into Lake Geneva!
Christian Mueller many thanks for correcting my mistake about the destination of the Illgraben debris flows. I am amazed that it has not filled in Lake Geneva, yet. That is a huge amount of material that is getting moved on an annual basis.
@@charlesward8196 yes, it is a huge amount! maybe you re interested in this video about a tsunami in the lake geneva 2000 years ago. bit it s in german, maybe you ll understand anyway or maybe the subtitles work... ;-) ruclips.net/video/qJUbtqJB7qc/видео.html
This may sound silly, but are there any fish that can survive that amount of mud and stone in the water? I would think some must, no? Turtles or other animals?
@@pierre-emmanuelzufferey1470!Ich wusste nicht, dass dieses Phänomen in der Schweiz ist! Ich kenne die Schweiz. Meine Tochter lebte dort 12 Jahre in Binningen und Basel. Grüße aus Brasilien. Gott segne dich.
Awesome videos. But I have a request. Do a past/ present, chronological order of videos, from every angle you have. The trough falls, uphill, down hill, from the side it enters the river, from across the river, upstream, downstream. That would be awesome!
@@wrightgregson9761 Rhône South / Rhine North. South, to the Mediterranean Sea. West of Marseille France. North to the Atlantic Ocean. Close to Amsterdam Holland. The West and East slopes at Furka Pass Switzerland determine the direction and the final destination of the water 💦
3:30, if 10 hours flood can move 150,000 cubic meter of debris the the 40 days and nights of continuous rain at start of The Flood could strip 40 x 24 = 960 = 96 x 150,000 m3 = 14 kilometres of lush topsoil with all its TRex, animals, humans, buildings and vegetation and bury it without trace.
They are going away to the sea, lowland looking for balance ? Debris, rocks became stone and then became sand or dust. Maybe they become our bbuilding or topsoil for vegetation and we eat it everyday..hehehehe
0:32, 4:07, shows how great masses of soft sediments slump away. This is exactly what happened at end of The Flood 4,350 years ago to cut the Grand Canyon in a few weeks. All around Earth there are remnants of the flood sediments - a flat top plateau with steep sides cut with rills and gullies leading down to wide flat valleys or plains cut with river beds generally without any water despite there obviously once being vast quatities of water to shape the land. Countless trillions of tons of sediments were washed away and filled the ocean basins formed at end of flood.
@@pierre-emmanuelzufferey1470 Hi. GET OUT OF THE SATANIC WITNESSES RIGHT NOW! JWs claim Jesus died on a stake -BECAUSE IN THE OLD TESTAMENT ALL THE ALTARS AND IDOLS OF BAAL AND MOLOCH HAD ASHERAH STAKES BESIDE THEM! Hanging Jesus on a stake is making him an object of shame and Satan's sacrifice to Baal! Nailing him to a cross as an innocent victim made a fool of Satan. 1 Kings 18:19 Elijah says: Now summon all Israel to meet me on Mount Carmel, along with the four hundred and fifty prophets of Baal and the four hundred prophets of Asherah who eat at Jezebel’s table.” Russell was Freemason and liar who used Freemason symbol and is buried near a pyramid with teh symbol: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Taze_Russell#/media/File:Russell_Pyramid.JPG The reason there are subliminal images od demons, reptiles, serpents, wild beasts, buills, naked men in virtually every picture in JW magazones and books is because that is how they ensure every JW is guilty of having demonic literature, praising it and publishing it! You JWs are idolaters! Any chance you have a copy of the littelbook that has a picture of what is supposed to be everything inside our skulls - but is really asubliminal snake - just like the popes new building. As for The Flood and sediments it is teh reason there is so much bare badrock around Earth when logically vegetation shoudl have covered it all just like it covered neg;ected footpaths and vacant lots and abandoned airfields. See if you have that little book with tehgrey cover I think.
@@pierre-emmanuelzufferey1470 Watch this video and see how great masses of sediments slump and fall away as adjacent sediments slump and leave teh firs masaes unsuported! End result is exactly like most of teh canyons and dry rivers on Earth,Moon, Mars and Venus etc. ruclips.net/video/KIOVw43A-I4/видео.html
1:15 is that rock shot through with quartz veins? such rocks would grind the biggest TRex and dinosaurs and humans to dust! This is why at Genesis 6 GOD said He would destroy al life off Earth: 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
What the video fails to show is the Theler KBW Susten AG Gravel works just below the confluence, where they are clearly "mining" the rocks. They can't be using all of the material, to be sure, but it's nice to know that they can produce useful materials from the Illgraben.
Der Illgraben scheint der hotspot für Murenabgänge in Europa zu sein. Es ist toll, dass Sie dazu fast ohne Lücken berichten. Danke.
(L'Illgraben semble être le point chaud des glissements de terrain en Europe. C'est formidable que vous en fassiez rapport avec presque aucun écart. Je vous remercie.)
WOW... Thank you so much for covering this aspect of the mechanics involved in the overall re-distribution of the flow debris.
If you look at a satellite view of the area, the slopes of Illhorn where the material erodes from are quite evident, and the Rhône has a braided channel downstream from Illgraben due to the extreme sediment load.
What does a braided channel mean David?
Fascinating videos, especially the longer ones that name the mountains and show the slopes in all weathers and the channels. Hopefully one day they’ll explain about the concrete drop offs and whether the rock channels are natural, or manmade. I can see some are rock lined to prevent erosion.
@@englishruraldoggynerd en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braided_river
I'm surprised theres still mountains. I can't believe the amount of debris/earth that washes down. And its been going on forever.
It's only been going on since The Flood 4,350 years ago.
Read 'A Brief History of Time #2' follow up to Hawking's sci-fi.
The mountains are all moving slowly upwards.
@@mweskamppp That is logical as they lose weight each year through erosion they will get lighter and float higher on the water filled Earth.
Here is a quote that you just might be able to understand: 1 Observe ye everything that takes place in the heaven, how they do not change their orbits, and the luminaries which are in the heaven, how they all rise and set in order each in its season, Behold the summer and the winter, how the whole earth is filled with water, and clouds and dew and rain lie upon it.
This is Enoch speaking about the time of The Flood 4,350 years ago.
@@rosewhite--- Oh, please, no more tales from the invisible friend.
@@rosewhite--- you're not doing your cause any good by talking such nonsense.
All that stuff ends up in the seas. Over unimaginably long periods of time. Big rocks turn into small pebbles, these turn into sand and the great mountains are eroded over millions of years. While elsewhere new ones pile up through the plate tectonics of the earth. For everyone living today, the mountains and our surroundings always look the same. But over eons some mountains will disappear, others will be added.
Gruss vom Meeresgrund Biel
Thanks for uploading this. I wondered to myself today how the heavy rains might have affected Illgraben. And now I know!
These debris flows occur several times a year and carry the material into the Rhone. During rainstorms, this leads to the clouding of the Rhone up to its mouth in Lake Geneva. So, to answer you question, it ends up as silt in the Rhone and Lake Geneva.
Thank you. I had just asked.
This incredible! Thank you for filming this and sharing it.
To answer your question....
That material is compared to the switzerland alps a rice corn under your couch in your livingroom !!!
Ever changing land. Incredible, thank you for sharing the video.
I watch these videos in amazement! Definitely something to see! Great video!
Your videos are absolutely wonderful…thank you for taking the time and energy to create such a concise record of fluvial geomorphilogical process. In this same vein, you might be interested in viewing some of the videos associated with the recent landslide that occurred on the Chilcotin River in British Columbia…there is some spectacular Y.T. footage of the results of the landslide and the eventual breach of the earthen plug that created a huge lake upstream of the slide, and the river running free again
I would guess that all that debris eventually forms a "delta", such as the mouth of the Mississippi River.
It ends up everywhere; in deltas, on floodplains, in reservoirs, and it even contributes to the rising of the channelbed once the river slows down enough. Up there, the bed is still cutting downward every time this happens; lots of gravity potential energy up there.
Actually in this particular video non of the rocks will actually reach the sea.
Less than half a mile down stream of where the two rivers are connected there is a huge Stone / Gravel / Sand production factory with huge crushing mills wich takes the rocks right from the river bank where the water and the mud drops them and transform them into building materials.
Secondly some miles down stream is the huge lake of Lausanne and Geneva. The lake is deep. The river comes in from one end and exits from the other. Consider like a stomach in our digestive system. Any rocks escaped from the factory crushing will be digested by the lake.
Finally the river enters France and runs half of the southern part.
Lyon, Avignon and other cities and villages are at it's path to the sea.
When it reaches the Mediterranean Sea a little West of Marseille it creates a small delta eventually but none of the rocks of this video is among the Delta's sentiments.
@@iggo45 Mississippi Delta blues can be very sentimental.
@@iggo45 Can someone who lives there do a video or a series of videos on what happens to the debris flow (Especially the huge boulders) once they enter the river? It would be nice to see the complete trip that all of this debris takes to get to its final resting place.
@@dougeing6521 the final resting place is the Geneva lake.
You have the best videos!
Man I could these videos all day
So relaxing
Oh wait
I just did 😎
These are the videos that are the most fascinating, showing the illgraben actually entering the Rhône. The point of confluence.
I just want to see more... So cool where and how the water takes those monsters.
Merci.💐
Aujourd'hui, je découvre plusieurs de vos vidéos. Très instructif et impressionnant.
There's a hot seep, called Meagre Creek, west of Pemberton in British Columbia, Canada. You used to be able to camp right beside the river, where the seep originated, and pioneers and loggers had (slightly) developed. At night, before falling asleep in your tent, you could feel large boulders in the river slowly shifting downstream... The access to the site has been blocked, for years, due to the danger of rockslide in the area of the hot springs.
Thank you for your comment. I looked on the net where it is. I saw the image of the river with big boulders around and broken trees. Does it come when heavy rain ?
@@pierre-emmanuelzufferey1470 I'm not sure. The area all around has been leased (owned?) by a logging company, for decades... They actually developed it further, in the early 2000's, I believe. upgrading the original pools, providing handicap access, etc. But the danger became too much. So the logging company has permanently blocked all down road access to the site. unless you're intrepid...
be really neat to maybe see where it all starts at ..... soooo cool !!!!
So are psudeoacacia or the American black locust an invasive species over there? Pretty sure that's what those trees were? Regardless this erosion issue is unbelievable.
It all goes down the Rhône to the Mediterranean Sea. It seems to have filled a canyon at the mouth of the river that was supposed to be 12.000 feet deep when the Mediterranean Sea dried up during the Pleistocene Ice ages. Edit: Christian Muller provided information that the debris in going into Lake Geneva!
No, only till Lake Geneva.
Christian Mueller many thanks for correcting my mistake about the destination of the Illgraben debris flows. I am amazed that it has not filled in Lake Geneva, yet. That is a huge amount of material that is getting moved on an annual basis.
@@charlesward8196 yes, it is a huge amount! maybe you re interested in this video about a tsunami in the lake geneva 2000 years ago. bit it s in german, maybe you ll understand anyway or maybe the subtitles work... ;-) ruclips.net/video/qJUbtqJB7qc/видео.html
@@muellairmuellair I’m going to watch it now, hopefully it’ll be explanatory enough to understand!
@@muellairmuellair I'm in the US, RUclips says the uploader has not made that video available in this country. What a disappointment!
Mother Nature never disappoints.
This may sound silly, but are there any fish that can survive that amount of mud and stone in the water? I would think some must, no? Turtles or other animals?
Mércalo has little stone sculptures on top - how long can they survive there?
this material goes to : 46°23'39.8"N 6°51'33.5"E // 46.394399, 6.859313
Onde fica isso?
Imagino a quantidade de serpentes peçonhentas debaixo dessas pedras!
Illgraben, Leuk, Wallis. Swizzerland, Swissalps. There is no serpentes but only sand stones and huge blocks. Sometimes huge amont of water over it...
@@pierre-emmanuelzufferey1470!Ich wusste nicht, dass dieses Phänomen in der Schweiz ist! Ich kenne die Schweiz. Meine Tochter lebte dort 12 Jahre in Binningen und Basel. Grüße aus Brasilien. Gott segne dich.
Naturgewalten, immer wieder beeindruckend. Der Mensch wird sie nie beherrschen. Die riesigen Felsbrocken nur durch das Wasser bewegt..
😏🤔
Has anyone panned for gold in that area?
Awesome videos. But I have a request. Do a past/ present, chronological order of videos, from every angle you have. The trough falls, uphill, down hill, from the side it enters the river, from across the river, upstream, downstream. That would be awesome!
Very good vídeo my friend.
Thx.
Enormous natural force !
Where's this river empty?
Good job Mother Nature is impartial
Fantastic videos and channel 😃 I SUB!!! greetings sandro
what river does this flow empty into?
Rhone is a major river
@@haseo8244 thanks Rhone and Rhine---i can never remember which is which :
@@wrightgregson9761 Rhône South / Rhine North.
South, to the Mediterranean Sea. West of Marseille France.
North to the Atlantic Ocean. Close to Amsterdam Holland.
The West and East slopes at Furka Pass Switzerland determine the direction and the final destination of the water 💦
3:30, if 10 hours flood can move 150,000 cubic meter of debris the the 40 days and nights of continuous rain at start of The Flood could strip 40 x 24 = 960 = 96 x 150,000 m3 = 14 kilometres of lush topsoil with all its TRex, animals, humans, buildings and vegetation and bury it without trace.
They are going away to the sea, lowland looking for balance ? Debris, rocks became stone and then became sand or dust. Maybe they become our bbuilding or topsoil for vegetation and we eat it everyday..hehehehe
Es wird wahrscheinlich nur ein paar Tausend Jahre dauern bis die Rhone den Genfer See aufgefüllt haben wird.
1:17 That's a massive boulder.
Gravity in action
0:32, 4:07, shows how great masses of soft sediments slump away. This is exactly what happened at end of The Flood 4,350 years ago to cut the Grand Canyon in a few weeks.
All around Earth there are remnants of the flood sediments - a flat top plateau with steep sides cut with rills and gullies leading down to wide flat valleys or plains cut with river beds generally without any water despite there obviously once being vast quatities of water to shape the land.
Countless trillions of tons of sediments were washed away and filled the ocean basins formed at end of flood.
do you really believe ? I'm Jehovah's witness and we believe in it, but I ...am not sure anymore....
@@pierre-emmanuelzufferey1470 Hi. GET OUT OF THE SATANIC WITNESSES RIGHT NOW!
JWs claim Jesus died on a stake -BECAUSE IN THE OLD TESTAMENT ALL THE ALTARS AND IDOLS OF BAAL AND MOLOCH HAD ASHERAH STAKES BESIDE THEM!
Hanging Jesus on a stake is making him an object of shame and Satan's sacrifice to Baal!
Nailing him to a cross as an innocent victim made a fool of Satan.
1 Kings 18:19 Elijah says: Now summon all Israel to meet me on Mount Carmel, along with the four hundred and fifty prophets of Baal and the four hundred prophets of Asherah who eat at Jezebel’s table.”
Russell was Freemason and liar who used Freemason symbol and is buried near a pyramid with teh symbol:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Taze_Russell#/media/File:Russell_Pyramid.JPG
The reason there are subliminal images od demons, reptiles, serpents, wild beasts, buills, naked men in virtually every picture in JW magazones and books is because that is how they ensure every JW is guilty of having demonic literature, praising it and publishing it!
You JWs are idolaters!
Any chance you have a copy of the littelbook that has a picture of what is supposed to be everything inside our skulls - but is really asubliminal snake - just like the popes new building.
As for The Flood and sediments it is teh reason there is so much bare badrock around Earth when logically vegetation shoudl have covered it all just like it covered neg;ected footpaths and vacant lots and abandoned airfields.
See if you have that little book with tehgrey cover I think.
@@pierre-emmanuelzufferey1470 Watch this video and see how great masses of sediments slump and fall away as adjacent sediments slump and leave teh firs masaes unsuported!
End result is exactly like most of teh canyons and dry rivers on Earth,Moon, Mars and Venus etc.
ruclips.net/video/KIOVw43A-I4/видео.html
@Bossers Garage Poor child!
Stop trolling about things you cannot understand as that is teh sign of low IQ.
Go back under your damp stone.
@Bossers Garage: Rose may be wrong but you're a crude ass hat.
Apparement vous etes envahi AUSSI par les verniers du Japon !!! Quel plaie !!!
❤
Where's "Little Boy" did he get washed away?
No stil upthere, look at the end of my previous video "Enlèvement au bercail".
Vue entre autre sur Mecalo 1:14
He earth is grinding itself up
. . . so approx. 300,000 tons of stones and debris - there must have been some 30 to 50 kg of Gold in it . . . 😂
Terra se dissous dans Aqua,
The earth just wants to be flat.
1:15 is that rock shot through with quartz veins?
such rocks would grind the biggest TRex and dinosaurs and humans to dust!
This is why at Genesis 6 GOD said He would destroy al life off Earth: 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Genesis is a myth.
7 minuets of still shots how boring