Shaolin Monk My friend, I was glad to share with you our list of characters so that you can create this great video and share your experience and vision of the game with us)!
@@ShaolinMonkMKM This site is mainly the merit and work of my partner Viknova, who did almost all the work on creation, I just had an idea and concepts that I was able to implement thanks to him)!
@@ShaolinMonkMKM yeah mk1 is amazing against bosses. Cripple, snare, shield and survivability give him infernal chains he gets power drain as well. The whole package 😍
Thanks man! I always thought that certain characters were quite fast but could never really prove it. This way its easier to see how they really perform against each other. 🙂
Sometimes I use MK11 Fujin, MK11 Rain and MK11 Raiden to kill a boss. Because when applying tornado passive and attacking with lightning can bypass the boss dot immunity.
1:13 Personally i find him easier to use than his klassic counterpart but that is probably really dependnent on playstyle Aslo for subzero also i wpuld mention he has idk at peast for ke like nealry every one of his sp2 is critical or lethal hit especially on last minihit
People say it was not fair because i use MK11 Scorpions Sp1 against MK1 Scorpions Sp2. Even though literally nobody is using MK11s Sp2 against bosses… 🤷♂️
@@fizbutrealYup, now all of a sudden though after this video everyone is claiming to be using MK11 Scorp Sp2. Lol… but i will test his Sp2 also for sure and yes he will destroy F8 MK1 Scorpion obviously… maybe. 😊
I respect your opinion but you know some setups favor some characters more. We all know klassic Lui can't do stun loop anymore unless you stack him up with a power gen gears. Also with scorpion test, I know mk11 best sp is sp1 but in the test he's clearly at disadvantage. They both use a sp after combos and one of them is mostly using sp2 while the other is stuck with sp1..
Yeah its fine to disagree my friend. All the issues you mention will be brought up in the full test. Which will take awhile. This was only a introduction! There is a lot of testing to be made but i only have 30 refreshes daily so i might do different parts in order to get the videos out faster.
With me, there's no "best boss killer" in mk mobile, a lot of characters can become the best boss killer if you give him/her the right set up as well as the appropriate battle or situation to use them. Still, very interesting video 👍
Fair enough…and thats kind of one of my points really. Those cards that are considered trash can actually be as good even with simply using… the same gear. Lol. But in all honesty there are differences but all depends ok kollection and style of play.
I use mk11 sub zero since he's my maxed out diamon and prioritized on spamming sp2, the boss can't do anything with power drain, chance to snare, stun and and chance to freeze. I managed to win 2 fatal dark queens with it although he isn't my finisher on resurrection battles, i use COS quanchi since he's the only guy that i have brutality with. Even if quanchi gets the final kill mk11SZ is still my mvp on towers, survivor and krypt 😁 I hope I can max klassic raiden f5 or Mk11 Scorpio f3 someday, i will hold out my souls for now for the elemental warriors pack and I'm satisfied with the rewards on towers and krypt exchange hehe
Maybe do a test with no gears except block breaker. Like you said a scenario where you have just 1 max diamond with bronze card and no support from teams. It'll show whose better overall with passives and sp effects for hitting some percentages
Yup i thought about that also but then you kind of depending on luck/critical hit chance. Lets say one character gets four critical hits on his Sp attacks then another character only get two. Kind of unfair. By the way there is no way to do a 100% accurate and fair test.
@@redrighthand5206There will still be critical hits i already tried removing all talents + no gears except block break. And because the battle will become very long like that then you will definitely get a higher chance for Lethal hits will also will ruin the test. Lol
@@ShaolinMonkMKM i got OB Rain from kombat pack reward gold card his f7 kitana f8 Sindel f4 but 7000 ♥️ isn’t hard to grind 3 elder runs is all it takes.
I had lots of problems with battle 200 normal klassic tower and couldn't kill Klassic Liu Kang because of constant regeneration. Then i put Klassic Sonya. She slaughtered him.
I think MK1 Scorpions Sp2 with his fire bars is already more powerful than Lius, but.. Liu is much faster. Unfortunately with Scorpion you need to do combo ender, then stand and wait, then start new combo. It takes a lot of time. It depends on how powerful he really becomes at FX and level 60.
@@ShaolinMonkMKMMK1 will be the best, if at F8 it beats Scorpion with F10 with at least 3 cards in the minus, if we also take into account the lv. 50-60. it would be about 3 cards, I think it will be the strongest at sp2.
It saddens me anytime i still see or hear people saying MK1 scorpion is trash. Just because they don't know how to use a character does not mean its trash.
I don’t even understand how y’all have such high F.diamonds and gear I have been playing for around 2-3 months and the best I have is mk11 F1.jade, F0.sub zero and F0.scorpion and I struggle with tower battles.
Since you specifically stated that noob doesn't boost the crit damage of sub, how come you didn't use hat trick kung lao to boost sub's footage like you did with fire god liu?
Because i had a discussion about MK11 Sub vs Joker stun loop and was told Sub Zero was trash. So i wanted to prove that Sub could do his stun loop as effective as Joker even with a disadvantage.
@@ShaolinMonkMKM ah lol well it's of course easier for them to say such statements instead of putting in work to actually prove a point, but anyways subzero can even be faster, as he can actually hit them directly off the ground right after sp2 with some timing. So that means sub can even be optimized further than expected, which is very nice.
Yeah but thats how most people use him and everytime i say MK1 Scorpions Sp2 makes him as good as MK11 Scorpion, then everyone says that he still is trash. Of course i will test MK11 Scorpions Sp2 though against bosses in my full test.
@@ShaolinMonkMKM thank you for replying to me, your the first creator to reply to me, I always watch Mand and starinsky and ask questions but never get a reply from them I get replies from other players but not from them, anyway no classic lui Kang isn't my highest fusion card I have a collection but he's on fusion 4 and he's still good, do U think he can be a boss killer at that level, also most of my epics are fusion 1 2 or 3 at highest only have a handful of maxed epics but have plenty of rares
A very easy explanation why people don't like mk1 scorpion - nobody cares if he will eventually become better with fusions as it will take them probably good 2-3 years to max. And at f0 he has almost no value. Apart from that, he CANNOT support. There you go your answer ;) It is like buying a car but from the dealership they tell you that you can go over 20 miles per hour in 2 years. Until then, you have to drive with 15 tops ;) A good video though. Kudos
Is that really how people think though? That makes no sense because there are a lot of characters that gives my account absolute no value at all but that dont mean i think they are trash. KC Johnny is a good example. Even some of the characters in my Boss Killer list has no use to me but they still made the list. About your car example.. thats exactly what car salesmen do though lol. Advertise that the car can do 280-300 km/h but you can still never ever use it unless you are on the Autobahn. And even so, it is too scary to even go over 200 km/h. However if the car shines in other departments like have a snare on the first gear and cripple on second gear, then a gearbox with unlimited chaining then this car is definitely not trash. 🤣 Cheers!
You see, you think from the perspective of an almost maxed out account. And I can bet this isn't the majority of your audience. To me, ranking characters on a maxed out account doesn't make any sense as any character can do any battle with the correct op equipment. So from a perspective of a regular mkm player getting mk1 scorpion will give little to no excitement at all. That is why when I rank characters I give ultimate value on how useful the character is from the moment you unlock him (unless the character becomes absolute nuts once maxed - for instance Lizard Baraka, but even Lizard Baraka has some support value at f0. Scorpion doesn't even have that.) @@ShaolinMonkMKM
@@MANDMKI mean i saw his potential even at F0. Otherwise i would have never bought those Anniversary packs… i very rarely buy characters. I even wanted to get him F0 on my beginner account. I was so close of buying that guaranteed pack. No way i would ever max him there. So i dont know, maybe im just different. I do think that once people try him more they will start seeing his potential. Same thing happened with a lot of cards though, even MK11 Liu.
Was that really obvious until now though? I mean literally everyone has been using MK11 Scorpions Sp1 against bosses. I never seen anyone doing Sp2 spam, why would nobody use his Sp2 if it was obviously much more effective than his Sp1?
If you wanna compare objectifly You have to do sp2 of mk11 scorpion Btw I use mk11 scorpion against bosses because he's one the few maxed diamonds in my collection I use sp2 not sp1 I only use sp1 if had to cripple
Shaolin Monk My friend, I was glad to share with you our list of characters so that you can create this great video and share your experience and vision of the game with us)!
Thank you very much for let me use your site, your hard work on this website and tier list! ❤
@@ShaolinMonkMKM This site is mainly the merit and work of my partner Viknova, who did almost all the work on creation, I just had an idea and concepts that I was able to implement thanks to him)!
Finally someone to recognise the potential of sub zero ,fire god and mk1 scorpion… i’m so happy to see this ,bro 🔥🔥🔥
Cheers my friend! I been saying it forever but i always gets shut down. 😂
@@ShaolinMonkMKM yes my friend I can feel your pain 🤣👍🏽
@@ShaolinMonkMKM yeah mk1 is amazing against bosses. Cripple, snare, shield and survivability give him infernal chains he gets power drain as well. The whole package 😍
Love the multi screen idea you truly are genius ❤
Cheers my friend!
Thank you for the video man, I keep learning a lot from your videos.
I absolutely loved it.
All the best 👏🏻👍🏻🙌
Cheers my friend! 🙏🙏🙏🙂
Always enjoy your very data driven, scientific method approach to evaluating characters!
Thanks man! I always thought that certain characters were quite fast but could never really prove it. This way its easier to see how they really perform against each other. 🙂
Thank you for the work done, very nicely explained, we want more videos like this.
Cheers my friend! 😊
Appreciate ur efforts brother great video again
Cheers my friend! ❤
Sometimes I use MK11 Fujin, MK11 Rain and MK11 Raiden to kill a boss. Because when applying tornado passive and attacking with lightning can bypass the boss dot immunity.
Yup that is a very good team! I like to use this strategy a lot myself. 🔥🔥🔥
Jade is long overdue for a boost on her stats.
I totally agree, she would be a real best with some boosts on her stats. (She still are even without it though)
Waiting a lot for next video comparing Liu Kang Mk11 and Klassic Liu Kang! Thank you
Cheers! I am considering if i should a separate video on that, quite interesting battle there…
@@ShaolinMonkMKMthank you
you always have a way to impress me
Cheers just having fun with some trash cards. 🙂
Bro u deserve more subscribers
I appreciate it, cheers my friend!
1:13 Personally i find him easier to use than his klassic counterpart but that is probably really dependnent on playstyle
Aslo for subzero also i wpuld mention he has idk at peast for ke like nealry every one of his sp2 is critical or lethal hit especially on last minihit
Yeah everyone got their own style. If you manage to destroy bosses faster than with KLK then of course he is the best for you!
Yeah he's the true GOAT 💯😁 Shield break on sp1 and strengthen on sp2 just get 90%+ on both mini games.. he can't be dodged or blinded amazing 😍😍
mk1 scorpion absolutely DESTROYED those bosses like it was nothing 🙏❤
People say it was not fair because i use MK11 Scorpions Sp1 against MK1 Scorpions Sp2. Even though literally nobody is using MK11s Sp2 against bosses… 🤷♂️
@@ShaolinMonkMKM mk11 sp2 is either for finishing off a boss or doing dots
sp1 is much faster
@@fizbutrealYup, now all of a sudden though after this video everyone is claiming to be using MK11 Scorp Sp2. Lol… but i will test his Sp2 also for sure and yes he will destroy F8 MK1 Scorpion obviously… maybe. 😊
@@ShaolinMonkMKM don't know about that due to it not being a blockbreaker so its much harder to chain
I respect your opinion but you know some setups favor some characters more. We all know klassic Lui can't do stun loop anymore unless you stack him up with a power gen gears. Also with scorpion test, I know mk11 best sp is sp1 but in the test he's clearly at disadvantage. They both use a sp after combos and one of them is mostly using sp2 while the other is stuck with sp1..
Yeah its fine to disagree my friend. All the issues you mention will be brought up in the full test. Which will take awhile. This was only a introduction! There is a lot of testing to be made but i only have 30 refreshes daily so i might do different parts in order to get the videos out faster.
@@ShaolinMonkMKM I understand my man. I'll be waiting to watch. Hope you'll make it as fair as possible 🙌
You don't use mk11 scorpion sp1 with krushing blow because you lose vital seconds
With me, there's no "best boss killer" in mk mobile, a lot of characters can become the best boss killer if you give him/her the right set up as well as the appropriate battle or situation to use them.
Still, very interesting video 👍
Fair enough…and thats kind of one of my points really. Those cards that are considered trash can actually be as good even with simply using… the same gear. Lol. But in all honesty there are differences but all depends ok kollection and style of play.
I use mk11 sub zero since he's my maxed out diamon and prioritized on spamming sp2, the boss can't do anything with power drain, chance to snare, stun and and chance to freeze. I managed to win 2 fatal dark queens with it although he isn't my finisher on resurrection battles, i use COS quanchi since he's the only guy that i have brutality with. Even if quanchi gets the final kill mk11SZ is still my mvp on towers, survivor and krypt 😁
I hope I can max klassic raiden f5 or Mk11 Scorpio f3 someday, i will hold out my souls for now for the elemental warriors pack and I'm satisfied with the rewards on towers and krypt exchange hehe
Right, Sub-Zero is awesome! Powerdrain + Frostbite is really like a more powerful cripple and like you said, they cant do anything! 🥶
Am kind new to the game but agreed 👍
No need to agree! This video just explains my own opinion. 😊
Maybe do a test with no gears except block breaker. Like you said a scenario where you have just 1 max diamond with bronze card and no support from teams. It'll show whose better overall with passives and sp effects for hitting some percentages
Yup i thought about that also but then you kind of depending on luck/critical hit chance. Lets say one character gets four critical hits on his Sp attacks then another character only get two. Kind of unfair. By the way there is no way to do a 100% accurate and fair test.
@@ShaolinMonkMKM maybe if you take off talent skill for crits as well nobody gets crit? I don't know myself haven't tried
@@redrighthand5206There will still be critical hits i already tried removing all talents + no gears except block break. And because the battle will become very long like that then you will definitely get a higher chance for Lethal hits will also will ruin the test. Lol
@@ShaolinMonkMKM ah I see
Don't forget to share the talents and the equipment used on each character when you do the video. Thanks for all you always
I will use the same gear and same talents for all the characters but yes i will show it!
Please do one for Gold characters too
I might but these diamond cards will take a LONG time lol
Bruh, 8 million damage from a fusion 8 card is insane im baffled right now.
I did have maxed Epic gear but still, yes very impressive! 🔥🔥
Wonderful and valuable info ❤
Cheers! ❤️
Me waiting to see lizard baraka😅😅🚶🏽♂️🚶🏽♂️🚶🏽♂️
I dont have him maxed 🙂
@@ShaolinMonkMKMi have all the lizards maxed.
😂
@@Cyprusplz My Baraka is F9 but too lazy to do the Krypt.. 😅
@@ShaolinMonkMKM i got OB Rain from kombat pack reward gold card his f7 kitana f8 Sindel f4 but 7000 ♥️ isn’t hard to grind 3 elder runs is all it takes.
I had lots of problems with battle 200 normal klassic tower and couldn't kill Klassic Liu Kang because of constant regeneration. Then i put Klassic Sonya. She slaughtered him.
I dont know your kollection, what is your best characters?
@@ShaolinMonkMKM KC Johnny ( lvl 15) Hanzo (10), Covert Cassie (10), Klassic Sonya ( 10), Cyrax ( 10), Klassic Smoke (9) etc.
i just do not understand how KLK kills skarlet in 10 SECONDS without tower gear at all, i guess his sp2 stun loop is just insanely overpowered...
Lol, he is simply too fast!
@@ShaolinMonkMKM very satisfying to watch the loop too
I think number 1 will change with time, at boss killer it will no longer be Classic Liu kang but MK1 scorpion now I have seen how strong it is..
I think MK1 Scorpions Sp2 with his fire bars is already more powerful than Lius, but.. Liu is much faster. Unfortunately with Scorpion you need to do combo ender, then stand and wait, then start new combo. It takes a lot of time. It depends on how powerful he really becomes at FX and level 60.
@@ShaolinMonkMKMMK1 will be the best, if at F8 it beats Scorpion with F10 with at least 3 cards in the minus, if we also take into account the lv. 50-60. it would be about 3 cards, I think it will be the strongest at sp2.
@@ionutz289Difficult to say but i hope i can max him soon and then i will definitely do a real test on it!
It saddens me anytime i still see or hear people saying MK1 scorpion is trash. Just because they don't know how to use a character does not mean its trash.
He is definitely not trash lol.
Yeah. MK1 Scorpion and Fire God Lui Kang are very awesome characters. I just fail to understand why people just don't any potential in some characters
@@samueladeyemo7484Because they just listen to so called “discord mkm experts” that sits online 24/7 and saying everything is trash. Lol
I don’t even understand how y’all have such high F.diamonds and gear I have been playing for around 2-3 months and the best I have is mk11 F1.jade, F0.sub zero and F0.scorpion and I struggle with tower battles.
We have been playing for years thats why lol. You will get there eventually my friend.
BTW what happened to getting shao Kahn I have 112 shards but I can’t use them
I dont understand this?
Strange you didn't put klassic reptile, with horse stance and with power generation equipment you can literally chain sp2
Usually not my first choice when it comes to bosses because his basic attacks but i could try him. 👍👍👍
I have a question. Can SP3 becomes critical also, or it always deal the same damage?
Same damage as i understand it unfortunately.
Thanks for respond bro
Since you specifically stated that noob doesn't boost the crit damage of sub, how come you didn't use hat trick kung lao to boost sub's footage like you did with fire god liu?
Because i had a discussion about MK11 Sub vs Joker stun loop and was told Sub Zero was trash. So i wanted to prove that Sub could do his stun loop as effective as Joker even with a disadvantage.
@@ShaolinMonkMKM ah lol well it's of course easier for them to say such statements instead of putting in work to actually prove a point, but anyways subzero can even be faster, as he can actually hit them directly off the ground right after sp2 with some timing. So that means sub can even be optimized further than expected, which is very nice.
@@chessterstone Really, can you send a video in Discord please? 🔥🔥🔥
how do you generate that much power while fighting also your sp2 takes 50 % power how
Horse stance talents generates more power this update and you need to use gear for 50% power cost reduction.
for scorpion its not fair ... on one you are doing sp2 the other is just sp1
Yeah but thats how most people use him and everytime i say MK1 Scorpions Sp2 makes him as good as MK11 Scorpion, then everyone says that he still is trash. Of course i will test MK11 Scorpions Sp2 though against bosses in my full test.
What fusion does classic lui Kang has to be to be a boss killer?
Depends on your kollection. If he is your highest fused card then i would say he works at any fusion.
@@ShaolinMonkMKM thank you for replying to me, your the first creator to reply to me, I always watch Mand and starinsky and ask questions but never get a reply from them I get replies from other players but not from them, anyway no classic lui Kang isn't my highest fusion card I have a collection but he's on fusion 4 and he's still good, do U think he can be a boss killer at that level, also most of my epics are fusion 1 2 or 3 at highest only have a handful of maxed epics but have plenty of rares
A very easy explanation why people don't like mk1 scorpion - nobody cares if he will eventually become better with fusions as it will take them probably good 2-3 years to max. And at f0 he has almost no value. Apart from that, he CANNOT support. There you go your answer ;)
It is like buying a car but from the dealership they tell you that you can go over 20 miles per hour in 2 years. Until then, you have to drive with 15 tops ;) A good video though. Kudos
Is that really how people think though? That makes no sense because there are a lot of characters that gives my account absolute no value at all but that dont mean i think they are trash. KC Johnny is a good example. Even some of the characters in my Boss Killer list has no use to me but they still made the list. About your car example.. thats exactly what car salesmen do though lol. Advertise that the car can do 280-300 km/h but you can still never ever use it unless you are on the Autobahn. And even so, it is too scary to even go over 200 km/h. However if the car shines in other departments like have a snare on the first gear and cripple on second gear, then a gearbox with unlimited chaining then this car is definitely not trash. 🤣 Cheers!
You see, you think from the perspective of an almost maxed out account. And I can bet this isn't the majority of your audience. To me, ranking characters on a maxed out account doesn't make any sense as any character can do any battle with the correct op equipment. So from a perspective of a regular mkm player getting mk1 scorpion will give little to no excitement at all. That is why when I rank characters I give ultimate value on how useful the character is from the moment you unlock him (unless the character becomes absolute nuts once maxed - for instance Lizard Baraka, but even Lizard Baraka has some support value at f0. Scorpion doesn't even have that.) @@ShaolinMonkMKM
@@MANDMKI mean i saw his potential even at F0. Otherwise i would have never bought those Anniversary packs… i very rarely buy characters. I even wanted to get him F0 on my beginner account. I was so close of buying that guaranteed pack. No way i would ever max him there. So i dont know, maybe im just different. I do think that once people try him more they will start seeing his potential. Same thing happened with a lot of cards though, even MK11 Liu.
well MK11 LIu has tons of potential at f0. ;)@@ShaolinMonkMKM
@MANDMK Thats not what i heard when he was released. 😬
Joker😂😂😂he is a boss killer😂😂
You mean he is or he is not?
@@ShaolinMonkMKM he is
*smells air*
*dislikes air*
huh?
The obvious answer is Ronin Kitana
Was this a serious reply or a joke? 🙂
@@ShaolinMonkMKM A joke lol
@@jaydefur.eIf you only knew… 😜
8:40 you used 2nd special attack on mk1 and 1st special attack on mk11? why not using the same specials? of course in this case mk1 will win
Was that really obvious until now though? I mean literally everyone has been using MK11 Scorpions Sp1 against bosses. I never seen anyone doing Sp2 spam, why would nobody use his Sp2 if it was obviously much more effective than his Sp1?
Lol Scorpion Battle why u do not SP2 whit him mk11...... Whit mk1 u do 😂
Because 95% of the players is using his Sp1s when they use MK11 Scorpion. But after this video all of a sudden everyone claim to use his Sp2? 😅
If you wanna compare objectifly
You have to do sp2 of mk11 scorpion
Btw I use mk11 scorpion against bosses because he's one the few maxed diamonds in my collection
I use sp2 not sp1
I only use sp1 if had to cripple