That was unexpected! Great video :) FYI those 2 numbers are the highest and lowest values that can be represented by a signed 32bit integer on a PC. So yeah you literally hit the absolute extremes!
I had a match where my opponent has -256. We got Ego as our second zone. Ego played their Iron Man onto Bar Sinister for them, while Ego played Spider Woman onto Bar Sinister. I thought that was hilarious to see.. but you hit the overflow cap xD
i dont know whats up with all the dislikes but i left hearthstone a year ago and this game brought me back to card games, thanks for the content i hope this game gets a long healthy life because ive really liked it
So... it seems each onslaught is being onslaughted four times, since there are two other onslaughts that are each doubling each other. Which means there are 3 x 2^4 = 48 doubler effects being applied to iron man. Which would mean the base score of 27 is being doubled 48 times. 27* 2^48. That would be a true total of 7`599`824`371`187`712 power, aka 7.6 quadrillion. When there was just two, that would be 2x 2^2 = 8 doublers, on 17 base power = 4352, so the logic matches with the game's display @11:27
I can’t make the maths work properly myself, but seeing 3 onslaughts interacting with Blue Marvel gives other cards +1024 power, meaning that the actual base number is being doubled 1024 times, leading to a MUCH higher (or lower in the first case) final power total
That magic number is 2147483647, because computers usually store "signed intergers" in 32 bits, so the biggest positive interger it can get to is 2^31-1(0 is a positive too). Note that for the negative part it can go to -2147483648, which is -(2^31).
@@mrluchtverfrisser oh thanks i actually typed the wrong number. I tried to keep my explanation as simple as possible, so the wording isn't 100% persice. For more details there are lots of online documentary for everyone to look up.
i did go against someone who played a blue marvel with 3 onslaught and he got 4 thousand on every location but i never thought u could get this much XD
That's not an integer overflow, the wong hazmat combo made iron man's base power -8 and onslaught's base power -2. Regis still has his combo multiplying his power by about 2 billion so having a negative score to start with gave him a total under negative 2 billion.
Based on how the 3 onslaught / Blue Marvel combo gives cards an extra 1024 power, I'm assuming that the combo here multiplies the location by 2^1024, which means the actual values if not capped would be 3.8*10^310 and -1.8*10^310... incomprehensibly large 310 digit long numbers. If anyone can enlighten me how the onslaught mechanics combine to multiply a card's power by 1024 that would be great because it's hurting my brain
I don't think we'll know 100% whats happening unless a developer tells us, since 1024 is 2^10 which doesn't make sense for 3 cards to produce if they are all acting equally.
The thing is that onslaught doesnt Just effect iron Man, they affect eachother, so the onslaught that at First was making It Double, now is making It quadruple, but that one that quadrupled It now is also getting quadrupled, and It gets even worst with the third one, thats why It gets infinite
@UCLL3HSgJNaDiS7wmjOcZWow I like the theory here and it may well be close to correct. However, the numbers don’t quite add up - if you search for the Blue Marvel / 3 onslaught combination (see e.g. outofcards article “5 MARVEL SNAP Decks for the Bar Sinister Featured Location” for a board image), you can see that cards are being given +1024 power, so your theory is adding in an extra factor of 2 that doesn’t seem to be borne out in the game’s calculations - there might be a similar way things could be worked out though that leads to one less factor of 2?
I spent 3 of my valuable sleeping hours figuring this out for the sake of another commenter below, but I’ll rehash here in case anybody in this thread still cares. Basically, the effects trickle down as they happen, so we have 4 states. Iron man by himself: 2^1 multiplier Iron man with 1 Onslaught: 2^2 multiplier Iron man with 2 Onslaughts: 2^(2*4) multiplier Iron man with 3 Onslaughts: 2^(4*16*16) multiplier Long story short, things get out of control very quickly when you add a multiplicative term in a recursively multiplicative function
Little Tip, they are sorted by Cost first, Alphabetical Second, and power third. You can of course change the sorting order, but i think thats the Basic sort format.
My record power at one location is a bit above 4.1million. Onslaught's Citadel. Wong > Black Panther > Odin. At the time it was objectively the wrong play as I had the Arnim Zola in hand and ended up losing the other two locations, but I have no regrets.
when i did it my iron man had 0 power but got the same overall power. so that means 2.1 billion is the is the max number you can have in a location and -2.1 billion id the lowest number
22 to the power of 16 = 22^16 = 3,011,361,496,339,065,143,296 Thats 3 Septillion and change 😂 What I'm curious about is how the math on a Hazmat + 3 Wongs stacks up. Its the Wongs affecting Wongs that I'm insure of. Is it previous or subsequent?
Sure! The math gets a little screwy in the middle but there are two pieces of circumstantial evidence in other comments to prove that the numbers are correct, so here goes nothing. First play is to fill up all of the slots with nightcrawler so that he can play a single Iron Man on turn 5 Turn 5 comes around, he moves one nightcrawler and places Iron Man to fill the one slot On turn 6, all the other nightcrawlers get moved and Onslaught is allowed to take up the other 3 slots, and now it’s time for the funny math If you watch the numbers carefully during the second game, you’ll see that as each Onslaught reveals itself, we get the numbers 36, 4352, and the integer limit (basically, the number you get when you have a binary number that is 32 digits long and is entirely 1s. For precision’s sake, the number is (2^32) - 1). So, first Onslaught doubles Iron Man’s effect once. We can check that because 36/9 (9 being the power of Iron Man and Onslaught added together with Blue Marvel on the field) is 4, or 2^(2^1), when the normal Iron Man effect is to multiply by 2^1 Onslaught 2 comes in and we get 4352. 4352/17 (our new power total) gets us a multiplier of 256, or 2^8. This is because the Onslaught effects trickle down. Starting with just Iron Man, we get a multiplier of 2^1. Onslaught 1 changes that exponent to 2, and we have a total of 2^2. Onslaught 2 sees that there is an Onslaught already in the location, so it doubles the exponent twice to get 2^(2*4), or 2^8. Finally, the Onslaught 3 comes in and the fun REALLY begins. Again, we’re going to follow the trickle down chain. Iron Man by himself is 2^1, 1 Onslaught is 2^2, 2 Onslaughts is 2^8, so how the heck do we push up to 2^1024 so fast? Well, Onslaught 3 see a 2^8 Iron Man, a normal Onslaught, and a doubled Onslaught. So its effect is to double all of the previous effects, making a 2^16 Iron Man, and what are now a doubled and a quadrupled Onslaughts. Now Onslaught 3 gets boosted by the doubled and quadrupled Onslaughts to get an effect of 2*4*8, or 64. Multiplying Iron Man’s exponent by 64 gives you, a final value of, you guessed it, 2^1024. I literally spent 3 hours doing this. It is 6 in the morning, I have an exam in 3 hours, and I spent 3 hours figuring out why numbers in funny card game go up so fast. Such is life, I guess. I hope this explanation helped, because I don’t see it getting much simpler lol
@@arcanelizard4646 Dude this was insane math lol Buuuut however, I still have a question. How and where does all this became negative. I hope the test you had were a math one because if it was , you probably nailed it !!! :D
@@caioesteves9027 it’s actually a music theory exam lol. But yeah that happened because his opponent did a similar setup but using Wong to double on reveal abilities and Hazmat to reduce the power of every other character on the screen by 1. Basically, the multiple Wongs made Hazmat’s ability go off so many times that Iron Man and Onslaught have a net negative power level, and Iron Man still multiplied that negative number by 2^1024. The total power at that location started at 33 and went down by 4 for every ability usage (I believe there were like 16 of them?) and eventually went below zero. That’s how it went super negative
Regina is the main mean girl, it sounds a lot like Regis, how appropriate. But uh, I think Snap has already happened. It's sitting at 5 million+ players and videos are sometimes getting more views than HS videos.
@@RegisKillbin SNAP is still enjoying being the new kid in the block. And you should make all content possible with it and run with the money after cuz as soon and the marketing money pushing creators payed videos runs out no one will care about it (same as constructed HS, no one cares anymore)
Somewhere in the bowels of his Second Dinner lair, Brode guffawed and doesn't yet know why.
That was unexpected! Great video :) FYI those 2 numbers are the highest and lowest values that can be represented by a signed 32bit integer on a PC. So yeah you literally hit the absolute extremes!
I had a match where my opponent has -256.
We got Ego as our second zone. Ego played their Iron Man onto Bar Sinister for them, while Ego played Spider Woman onto Bar Sinister.
I thought that was hilarious to see.. but you hit the overflow cap xD
Not overflow cap tho
@@ramysalem326 it is
i dont know whats up with all the dislikes but i left hearthstone a year ago and this game brought me back to card games, thanks for the content i hope this game gets a long healthy life because ive really liked it
Keep the snap content coming! its great
So... it seems each onslaught is being onslaughted four times, since there are two other onslaughts that are each doubling each other. Which means there are 3 x 2^4 = 48 doubler effects being applied to iron man. Which would mean the base score of 27 is being doubled 48 times. 27* 2^48. That would be a true total of 7`599`824`371`187`712 power, aka 7.6 quadrillion. When there was just two, that would be 2x 2^2 = 8 doublers, on 17 base power = 4352, so the logic matches with the game's display @11:27
I can’t make the maths work properly myself, but seeing 3 onslaughts interacting with Blue Marvel gives other cards +1024 power, meaning that the actual base number is being doubled 1024 times, leading to a MUCH higher (or lower in the first case) final power total
That magic number is 2147483647, because computers usually store "signed intergers" in 32 bits, so the biggest positive interger it can get to is 2^31-1(0 is a positive too).
Note that for the negative part it can go to -2147483648, which is -(2^31).
@@mrluchtverfrisser oh thanks i actually typed the wrong number.
I tried to keep my explanation as simple as possible, so the wording isn't 100% persice. For more details there are lots of online documentary for everyone to look up.
🤣🤣🤣
The biggest point swing in marvel snap!
i did go against someone who played a blue marvel with 3 onslaught and he got 4 thousand on every location but i never thought u could get this much XD
I got wrecked by this combo using Mr. Fantastic instead of Iron Man
Pulled the UNO reverse
I love this game I just found out about not too long ago and just how competitive it is and also how strategic it is too
The integer overflow at 5:06 really killed me 😂
That's not an integer overflow, the wong hazmat combo made iron man's base power -8 and onslaught's base power -2.
Regis still has his combo multiplying his power by about 2 billion so having a negative score to start with gave him a total under negative 2 billion.
Such an infectious laugh. Love it.l
Hey ,Regis! Hello from Ukraine , I like you’re videos very much , especially snap , starts playing snap because of u)))
HS would break like 6 times already trying to calculate that number.
that is actually an unbeatable record, i cant see anyone getting a lower score than that
Can I beat it if I got it twice in one week
Based on how the 3 onslaught / Blue Marvel combo gives cards an extra 1024 power, I'm assuming that the combo here multiplies the location by 2^1024, which means the actual values if not capped would be 3.8*10^310 and -1.8*10^310... incomprehensibly large 310 digit long numbers.
If anyone can enlighten me how the onslaught mechanics combine to multiply a card's power by 1024 that would be great because it's hurting my brain
Not sure but commenting cause I’m also curious
I don't think we'll know 100% whats happening unless a developer tells us, since 1024 is 2^10 which doesn't make sense for 3 cards to produce if they are all acting equally.
The thing is that onslaught doesnt Just effect iron Man, they affect eachother, so the onslaught that at First was making It Double, now is making It quadruple, but that one that quadrupled It now is also getting quadrupled, and It gets even worst with the third one, thats why It gets infinite
@UCLL3HSgJNaDiS7wmjOcZWow I like the theory here and it may well be close to correct. However, the numbers don’t quite add up - if you search for the Blue Marvel / 3 onslaught combination (see e.g. outofcards article “5 MARVEL SNAP Decks for the Bar Sinister Featured Location” for a board image), you can see that cards are being given +1024 power, so your theory is adding in an extra factor of 2 that doesn’t seem to be borne out in the game’s calculations - there might be a similar way things could be worked out though that leads to one less factor of 2?
I spent 3 of my valuable sleeping hours figuring this out for the sake of another commenter below, but I’ll rehash here in case anybody in this thread still cares. Basically, the effects trickle down as they happen, so we have 4 states.
Iron man by himself: 2^1 multiplier
Iron man with 1 Onslaught: 2^2 multiplier
Iron man with 2 Onslaughts: 2^(2*4) multiplier
Iron man with 3 Onslaughts: 2^(4*16*16) multiplier
Long story short, things get out of control very quickly when you add a multiplicative term in a recursively multiplicative function
I managed to get this before bar sinister rotated out of featured. Feels pretty good getting such a large number.
Little Tip, they are sorted by Cost first, Alphabetical Second, and power third. You can of course change the sorting order, but i think thats the Basic sort format.
1468 is my own record thanks to Bar Sinister in a Venom deck finishing with Arom Zola. My other Venom that game had 904.
My record power at one location is a bit above 4.1million. Onslaught's Citadel. Wong > Black Panther > Odin. At the time it was objectively the wrong play as I had the Arnim Zola in hand and ended up losing the other two locations, but I have no regrets.
I only watched for a while before i subbed! i found ur laughetr infectious dood!
Keep it goin stronk!!
Unstoppable force vs immovable object
0:47 People don't realize that cards can be ordered by their power. Since Adam has 0 power, he'd be the first. (or last)
This was delightful.
Like both sides aggree to make something wonderful here
I've actually done that before when I was in pool 1
Yes please marvel snap content 🙂 you got me into it and I like it
Perfect game right off the bat 😂
Insane! I’m like jaw dropped man.
That first game had me in shambles
the lowest number possible and lowest number to lost to
That was FUN
You could potentially get even higher if you use cards that buff other units/lanes. But a chance of that is even lower than to get this combo.
This was amazing!!
Yessssss marvel snap content
Just won turn one with bar sinister with ebony maw. Super funny! 😁
"I wish my bank account did that!" 🤣
when i did it my iron man had 0 power but got the same overall power. so that means 2.1 billion is the is the max number you can have in a location and -2.1 billion id the lowest number
Yeah that's the maximum number a 32 bit integer can hold
Lucky they didn't mirror it and remove all ongoing effects by mistake lol
If you use hulk buster you can make higher total nightcrawlers
This's the fìfst time I ended my match of Marvel Snap In a tie
Hi Regis, i was able to get 1000+on each location with 1 blue marver and 3 onslauth at bar sinister!!!!
No...that's actually broke. 😭
I got this score with living tribunal twice in one week
Does me creating a perfect tie count?
He played the Reverse card rofll
I once seen a guy get a 400 on a single location with 4 iron man's it was crZt
My highest point total was punisher with 4098 power with onslaught
This game is amazing!
@ 5:06 Regis.exe has broken.. oh wait it's fixed... nvm actually read the # and officially broken agan
Lol that was hilarious
i once had 3000+ power on 1 location
22 to the power of 16 = 22^16 =
3,011,361,496,339,065,143,296
Thats 3 Septillion and change 😂
What I'm curious about is how the math on a Hazmat + 3 Wongs stacks up. Its the Wongs affecting Wongs that I'm insure of. Is it previous or subsequent?
The Wong Hazmat play turned the Iron Man Onslaughts into -10^16 =
-10,000,000,000,000,000
Negative 10 quadrillion lol
Wong doesn’t interact with other Wongs. Wong is a Ongoing effect that doubles On Reveal effects, so it’s just 2x2x2=8
😂😂😂Hilarious
What is this message " something want want worng......try again" please help me ❤️
its weird that you did not play mr fantastic in middle...
Why not use America Chavez to force the combo
Demetris
如果是持續*2或揭示*2場地可以更大
我是說負的
I made 5,391,953 at once, and I have a screenshot 😅
Can you make the videos more zoomed in or vertical?
Uh...
Wish I could like twice.
can someone explain to me WTF just happend ?
Sure! The math gets a little screwy in the middle but there are two pieces of circumstantial evidence in other comments to prove that the numbers are correct, so here goes nothing.
First play is to fill up all of the slots with nightcrawler so that he can play a single Iron Man on turn 5
Turn 5 comes around, he moves one nightcrawler and places Iron Man to fill the one slot
On turn 6, all the other nightcrawlers get moved and Onslaught is allowed to take up the other 3 slots, and now it’s time for the funny math
If you watch the numbers carefully during the second game, you’ll see that as each Onslaught reveals itself, we get the numbers 36, 4352, and the integer limit (basically, the number you get when you have a binary number that is 32 digits long and is entirely 1s. For precision’s sake, the number is (2^32) - 1).
So, first Onslaught doubles Iron Man’s effect once. We can check that because 36/9 (9 being the power of Iron Man and Onslaught added together with Blue Marvel on the field) is 4, or 2^(2^1), when the normal Iron Man effect is to multiply by 2^1
Onslaught 2 comes in and we get 4352. 4352/17 (our new power total) gets us a multiplier of 256, or 2^8. This is because the Onslaught effects trickle down. Starting with just Iron Man, we get a multiplier of 2^1. Onslaught 1 changes that exponent to 2, and we have a total of 2^2. Onslaught 2 sees that there is an Onslaught already in the location, so it doubles the exponent twice to get 2^(2*4), or 2^8.
Finally, the Onslaught 3 comes in and the fun REALLY begins. Again, we’re going to follow the trickle down chain. Iron Man by himself is 2^1, 1 Onslaught is 2^2, 2 Onslaughts is 2^8, so how the heck do we push up to 2^1024 so fast? Well, Onslaught 3 see a 2^8 Iron Man, a normal Onslaught, and a doubled Onslaught. So its effect is to double all of the previous effects, making a 2^16 Iron Man, and what are now a doubled and a quadrupled Onslaughts. Now Onslaught 3 gets boosted by the doubled and quadrupled Onslaughts to get an effect of 2*4*8, or 64. Multiplying Iron Man’s exponent by 64 gives you, a final value of, you guessed it, 2^1024.
I literally spent 3 hours doing this. It is 6 in the morning, I have an exam in 3 hours, and I spent 3 hours figuring out why numbers in funny card game go up so fast. Such is life, I guess. I hope this explanation helped, because I don’t see it getting much simpler lol
@@arcanelizard4646 Dude this was insane math lol
Buuuut however, I still have a question. How and where does all this became negative. I hope the test you had were a math one because if it was , you probably nailed it !!! :D
@@caioesteves9027 it’s actually a music theory exam lol. But yeah that happened because his opponent did a similar setup but using Wong to double on reveal abilities and Hazmat to reduce the power of every other character on the screen by 1. Basically, the multiple Wongs made Hazmat’s ability go off so many times that Iron Man and Onslaught have a net negative power level, and Iron Man still multiplied that negative number by 2^1024. The total power at that location started at 33 and went down by 4 for every ability usage (I believe there were like 16 of them?) and eventually went below zero. That’s how it went super negative
This always remind me of "Mean Girls": Stop making SNAP happening, its not gona happen!
Regina is the main mean girl, it sounds a lot like Regis, how appropriate.
But uh, I think Snap has already happened. It's sitting at 5 million+ players and videos are sometimes getting more views than HS videos.
@@RegisKillbin SNAP is still enjoying being the new kid in the block. And you should make all content possible with it and run with the money after cuz as soon and the marketing money pushing creators payed videos runs out no one will care about it (same as constructed HS, no one cares anymore)
@@lox8031 Yeah, man, maybe, but we're not debating whether it will KEEP happening, we're discussing whether it already happened. It happened.
@@RegisHearthbin but it didn't fetch
Jajajajaja 😂😂😂😂😂
Game looks insta trash