Joy Division - Ceremony (Rehearsal Session in Manchester 1980)

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  • Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
  • There are three recorded versions of "Ceremony" in existence. The first is a live version, available on the Still album, from their final concert at High Hall, Birmingham University on 2 May 1980. The second, available on the Heart and Soul four-disc box set is from a rehearsal tape made in April/May 1980. The third is a version recorded at the soundcheck on the afternoon of 2 May 1980.

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  • @katerludwig4900
    @katerludwig4900 8 лет назад +976

    And a few days later there was no Joy Division anymore...
    This song always had a strong meaning to me. It's like the ending of a wonderful day, but instead of the dark night you can already see a new dawn. Some of the greatest musicians of all time passed away in 1980: John Lennon, Bon Scott, John Bonham and of course Ian Curtis.
    May everyone of you come home safely this evening.

    • @johnr2630
      @johnr2630 5 лет назад +29

      I got goosebumps after reading this comment

    • @dannycheesums
      @dannycheesums 5 лет назад +21

      I got goosebumps too - as before I read your comment I was listening to this song last thing before bed, and feeling melancholy because of how Ian must have been feeling, but good because this past year everything has gone right for me after several years of shit. Weird how music (and RUclips comments!) can catch you like that. Peace.

    • @hubich3416
      @hubich3416 4 года назад +6

      ... and vladimir vysotzki

    • @erikjmineer5810
      @erikjmineer5810 4 года назад +4

      You're not alone with that sentiment bon Scott and Ian such iconic musicians at least to me Bonham great drummer and Lennon not ot shabby either

    • @matlockduybay1888
      @matlockduybay1888 4 года назад +6

      darby crash =chuck wagon

  • @soula48
    @soula48 9 лет назад +597

    I saw JD by accident in 1978, life was never the same thereafter.

    • @ok2760
      @ok2760 5 лет назад +1

      Whereabouts?

    • @softcoreluvr
      @softcoreluvr 5 лет назад +10

      by accident?

    • @jakeola10
      @jakeola10 4 года назад +34

      I wish i could accidentally see one of the greatest bands of all time.

    • @gillesleguen7762
      @gillesleguen7762 3 года назад

      except JD didn’t exist in 1978 ... 😅😂🤣

    • @flowerface9011
      @flowerface9011 3 года назад +42

      @@gillesleguen7762 they formed in 76, with their band previously being titled Warsaw. They changed it because there was another group with the same name. I understand how much of a rush it can be to call someone a liar on the internet, but a cursory Google search will even tell you they formed in 76

  • @milanwitulski1253
    @milanwitulski1253 4 месяца назад +62

    It is 18.05.2024 and I am here. Ceremony was the first song that made me cry because of lyrics, how it sounds and knowing the sad history of Ian Curtis. Rest In Peace my all time hero and muse.

    • @Rhino1931
      @Rhino1931 3 месяца назад +5

      I’m there with you. Never felt anything emotional from music all my life and Ceremony made me cry at 27.
      At this point in my life, there’s nothing I’d want more than for Ian Curtis to still be here.

  • @TheFibtastic
    @TheFibtastic 10 лет назад +936

    Stephen Morris is never given enough credit.

  • @dabu4223
    @dabu4223 8 лет назад +440

    This is the greatest song not released. Ian Curtis' haunting vocals on full display. What could have been.

    • @SandraMcCalip
      @SandraMcCalip 9 месяцев назад +1

      To Ian and Joy
      Division . . . we love you
      We will never forget you 💔

    • @willemdeboer1029
      @willemdeboer1029 3 месяца назад +1

      There was never gonna be a coulda. This was it. Ian knew it.

  • @adamdxion34
    @adamdxion34 8 лет назад +308

    what a drummer

    • @cmswrD
      @cmswrD 4 года назад +14

      Ikr, Stephen Morris is so good

    • @gloritta
      @gloritta 4 года назад +1

      My fav

    • @MarcioSilva-fk1hq
      @MarcioSilva-fk1hq 3 года назад +4

      He was a jazz drummer , and this explains a lot ...

    • @A9_Chord
      @A9_Chord 2 года назад +1

      Drum machine but in human form

    • @chipaway
      @chipaway 2 года назад +1

      only one to compete imho was nigel preston from the cult

  • @alanajung440
    @alanajung440 9 лет назад +321

    I love the rawness of this track. It's like I'm right there in 1980.

    • @bargello2
      @bargello2 9 лет назад +6

      +Alana Jung best comment by a country mile..... In my opinion you truly know what you are saying.

    • @JohnPrince80
      @JohnPrince80 6 лет назад +1

      You can hear the sadness in his voice.

    • @davidsomerset
      @davidsomerset 6 лет назад

      You can be, again. Investigate Dancehouse Theatre, Manchester this April.

    • @TheSanityMachine33
      @TheSanityMachine33 Год назад +2

      Love it... I relate to Ian... i'm kind of a tormented.. madman Artist... poet... painter...
      I make videos about reality... i've written poetry on asylum walls.
      This raven is mine.
      I hope your last 7 years have been kind to you in this Hell realm.

  • @hurstdale
    @hurstdale 9 лет назад +355

    God has this on his i-pod

    • @ernestocanalesmaldonado6047
      @ernestocanalesmaldonado6047 9 лет назад +7

      al hendy Ian singing in heaven, I think!!! =)

    • @djunawn7213
      @djunawn7213 9 лет назад +21

      He sings it to my beautiful daughter. What times they have - all we have are memories

    • @anonomousous
      @anonomousous 6 лет назад +2

      People go to hell for committing suicide according to "God".

    • @givememoney8985
      @givememoney8985 6 лет назад +3

      well god dosnt exist so...

    • @anonomousous
      @anonomousous 6 лет назад

      exactly

  • @karmatage1234
    @karmatage1234 8 лет назад +339

    imagine a third album ....

    • @SportstalkDudes
      @SportstalkDudes 7 лет назад +72

      Kane Armatage "movement" by new order is essentially that

    • @steve261brown
      @steve261brown 6 лет назад +50

      Jake No! no! nothing without Ian’s vocals sorry!

    • @odw_99
      @odw_99 5 лет назад +42

      Steve Brown no that’s true, but the music for Movement was most likely written around about the time of Ian’s death, so musically, it’s a Joy Division album

    • @steve261brown
      @steve261brown 5 лет назад +5

      The2011Collector Barny is no Ian though! IMHO not a very good singer.

    • @eileenstubington8592
      @eileenstubington8592 5 лет назад +3

      It's a jd/no song

  • @KevinsYouTube
    @KevinsYouTube 9 лет назад +1459

    This version has Ian on it. Therefore, it can be deduced that this is the best version of the song to ever exist.

    • @franciscovasquez9164
      @franciscovasquez9164 7 лет назад +95

      KCwellard this version sucks. just because ian is singing doesnt make it better. personally i think bernard sung it much better

    • @slosheroni
      @slosheroni 7 лет назад +13

      lol

    • @RodneyGarza
      @RodneyGarza 7 лет назад +163

      Ian was probably already given thought to his near death when he wrote this song. Bernard's wimpy voice does not do it justice.

    • @franciscovasquez9164
      @franciscovasquez9164 7 лет назад +60

      Rodney Garza well im not you, I like bernard's wimpy voice

    • @paulinesvisuals
      @paulinesvisuals 7 лет назад +30

      I prefer New Order's version of this as well. SO much better.

  • @nightwalkerj
    @nightwalkerj 2 года назад +78

    Its amazing that a song where you can't really understand the lyrics still hits like a ton of bricks. Especially if you know some of Ian's history. He really put his soul into his music.

    • @acmemasteri
      @acmemasteri 4 месяца назад

      I have thought that I understand those lyrics.
      One of the greatest of all still... after 27 years.

  • @kevinhyland5524
    @kevinhyland5524 Год назад +37

    I was fortunate to be at Warsaw's first gig supporting Buzzcocks at the Electric circus in Manc, l love them to bits..what an amazing inspirational band they still are ❤

  • @tallykev6608
    @tallykev6608 4 года назад +156

    I love New Order's version, but I wish that Ian could have done a formal, recorded version. The lyrics are certainly different in some places. On the other hand, this one is kinda haunting and adds to the mystique that was Ian Curtis.

    • @fabsouza11
      @fabsouza11 Год назад +1

      A version with an AI-created Ian Curtis' voice is available!

    • @jamman217
      @jamman217 7 месяцев назад +7

      @@fabsouza11 AI 'resurrection' in film and music is abhorrently disgusting. The very idea of using a computer to imitate a person after their death makes a mockery of their life and legacy.

    • @tomasrichardson9262
      @tomasrichardson9262 11 дней назад

      I feel like that's an unpopular opinion, and I don't like how you're stating it as fact. ​@@jamman217

  • @furleybart
    @furleybart 5 лет назад +94

    the strokes, the cure, but this song is a masterpiece.......would love to go back in time to see them play live.

    • @smkxodnwbwkdns8369
      @smkxodnwbwkdns8369 2 года назад +3

      Ian wasn’t delicate, he had health problems that would of crushed anybody

  • @s1050
    @s1050 4 года назад +178

    This was the future sound of Joy Division which makes it special even though Ian’s vocals are of poor audible quality. I think he would’ve made the track even better if he had time to properly record it. I also genuinely think the electronic sound of New Order would’ve been Joy Division if Ian lived. Ian actually encouraged synths as he was a fan of Kraftwerk.

    • @tomo366
      @tomo366 3 года назад +4

      I wouldn't have liked joy division fully if they went into synth more

    • @al1665
      @al1665 11 месяцев назад +4

      I think they would have sounded like a mix of New Order, The Cure and Radiohead.

    • @PatchouliPenny
      @PatchouliPenny 8 месяцев назад +2

      I agree with you. I'm not a fan of dance music, people plonking away on synths isn't proper music. When New Order made Blue Monday they got asked to do it live for TV and they couldn't because they didn't know how to because so much was just studio editing. They were going to do a concert in Australia and were shitting themselves as they knew they'd be asked to do it. So they had to put parts together on the old floppy discs and try to play to that. They accepted a live offer on UK TV and fucked up badly as somehow what was on floppy was loaded wrong and played in reverse order.
      IMO Ian Curtis WAS Joy Division. After he died the rest didn't know what to do because he wrote all the songs and he chose what bits of music sounded best with his lyrics. Very occasionally they would play some bits and Ian would say, "okay I'll write lyrics for that." They seriously lucked out when ian joined them and he's dead and they're still raking in the millions!
      This song makes me want to sob because IMO it's a suicide note. Now I'm going to say something i thought I never would say so bear with me for a minute.
      I was once watching JD videos on here when I saw a comment saying the band sacrificed Ian so that New Order could become famous and rich. I burst out laughing, thinking what a nutcase! Since then I've been reading all the books and watching interviews. So many have asked how his band members could not be aware of how depressed and suicidal he was. Their answer was they didn't really listen to his lyrics, it was his business and they just left it to him. Firstly what band in history hasn't known the lyrics of the singer standing next to them, ESPECIALLY when studio recordings are made? What terrible friends would hear that and think their mate is okay? People can say it was a different time and men didn't talk about things like that. Well, they weren't men , yes they were over the age of 18 but that doesn't make you a man, all they had to do was listen but apparently they never heard!
      Then in one interview I heard hooky blaming Ian's suicide on his wife, Debbie! He actually says, "they had an argument, that's obviously what made him do it!" Im not sure how old you are but i am old and Hooky's expression when he said that was very suspect like he knows he isn't telling the truth.
      Then there's the girl Ian had an affair with. After hearing the songs for the new album, she phoned someone in a panic but i can't remember who. It might have been Bernard. Whoever, they asked her what she thought and she said i hate it! They asked her why and she said because he means every word and it terrifies me.
      So okay, you must have heard the theory that bands sign a deal with the devil in order to become famous? I'm an athiest so i don't believe in a literal devil but what if the record company and other band members knew Ian was in a bad way? What if they all knew everything would be over without ian, especially if he just embarrassed them in the future cos he was disabled and scared of flying? What if they were told to ignore his problems, he'll kill himself and then I'll make you guys famous? They refused to give interviews for ages afterwards and say JD didn't give interviews but Ian did, I've heard it, it's on RUclips and he doesn't sound depressed in the slightest!
      So now im beginning to think that comment wasn't so crazy and they didn't mean they cooked him on a bbq for Satan but maybe there's more to it than that. Now whenever I hear Ceremony by either band, I feel weird and sick and I've come to the conclusion that the other guys have not been honest about something in this story. Maybe Ian didn't want to go electronic at all. ​@tomo366

    • @tanis3639
      @tanis3639 2 месяца назад +1

      Hopefully someday, we can get a similar treatment which was used on The Beatles Get Back documentary and usingg AU, get remixed version

    • @DethTyrant
      @DethTyrant День назад

      ​@@PatchouliPennywhat are u even yappin about

  • @blackphoenix8932
    @blackphoenix8932 5 лет назад +438

    Man, Ian's barely audible vocals are heartbreaking.
    You don't even need to be able to make out the lyrics to feel what he is feeling at this point, shortly before self-inflicted death.

    • @greenplastic69
      @greenplastic69 4 года назад +42

      SECRET ORIGINAL LYRICS:
      Focus how the wheels are moving
      Find the same, the same old story
      Focus why the wheels are turning
      throw them away until they will catch fire
      Hope to find the same little story
      maybe then they will see me
      Hope and pray, no one saw me
      maybe then, they will go catch fire
      I'll break them all, no mercy shown
      heaven knows I got to get somewhere
      crash and burn, the things I did
      I got too stealth prepared for it this time
      I'll break them all, no mercy shown
      heaven knows I got to be somewhere
      Avenues all wind with trees
      pictures me and then you'll start watching
      watching forever
      watching forever,
      wherever i go, they will go
      wherever i go, they will go
      wherever i go, they will go

    • @ParanoidParkProject
      @ParanoidParkProject 4 года назад +11

      @HULK HOGAN That's fucked up. He most have known at that time he wouldn't last much longer

    • @alfiex6667
      @alfiex6667 3 года назад

      @@ParanoidParkProject people usually plan to kill themselves

    • @pen2199
      @pen2199 3 года назад +1

      @@alfiex6667 yeah they do, he was gloomy though

    • @alfiex6667
      @alfiex6667 3 года назад +11

      @@pen2199 I'm suicidal I think I would know lmao, you think about it for years and then one day you just can't take it and you do it, not something people plan, if they do they really don't wanna die they just want someone to pay attention to them.

  • @dbo514
    @dbo514 4 года назад +46

    His vocal intonation/melody at 1:01 ''the wheels are turning'', breaks my heart, it's so god damn beautiful.

    • @whereispie
      @whereispie 3 года назад +5

      Yes, beautiful part

    • @Ziad3195
      @Ziad3195 2 года назад +7

      1:06 but yeah!

  • @dizza4944
    @dizza4944 3 года назад +18

    This version will always be so haunting to me...it's like he's saying goodbye

    • @paulph12002
      @paulph12002 3 года назад +2

      I get that feeling too. This was recorded on 14th. May 1980, just four days before his passing.

  • @farmertedburgess9153
    @farmertedburgess9153 4 года назад +36

    when it's 12.24 on a saturday afternoon and you;re already wasted drunk, trawling youtube for the most depressing songs you know and then you remember this...and it strangely makes you feel better, and the only annoying thing is that the speakers on your laptop don't go any louder

  • @SteveASuper
    @SteveASuper 8 лет назад +155

    I don't know if it's in the nature of this recording a combination, including the speed at which it was laid down on tape, the placement of the mics, and Ian's emotional and physical state, but what comes across in this recording is sheer, forboding pathos.
    Apparent is the weariness, the kind of flat despondency that people that have given up the fight express themselves in, drained, exhausted vocals, the complete disregard for covering up the crying tremors in his voice, the resigned absence of any "punch" or highs and lows in the delivery of the words. What is strange is the words aren't in a monotone, yet the sound level has no hills or valleys and the frequency is low, as though breaking through a barrier, removed and muffled.
    The words, when you strain to hear them, contain the power unique to this version of the song, the utter truth of being right near the end, stripped of pretense or artiface.

    • @tedex8100
      @tedex8100 5 лет назад +4

      Fuck me,the pub bore.

    • @rockingchairsofpiss1404
      @rockingchairsofpiss1404 5 лет назад +5

      Very true and accurate description of this song's deliverance, it's even more so with their last track ever recorded called in a lonely place

  • @deathknigt3000
    @deathknigt3000 8 лет назад +209

    >tfw there will never be a studio recording of Ceremony with Ian on vocals.
    "Watching her. These things she said. The times she cried. Too frail to wake this time."

  • @darrenbass732
    @darrenbass732 9 лет назад +58

    It's lovely seeing Ian smile. Beautiful song.

  • @shawnkavanagh3554
    @shawnkavanagh3554 9 лет назад +30

    Broken glass and thoughts unnerve me,
    Turn away, the same old story
    Broken glass and wheels are turning
    Turn away turn toward this time
    Broken glass and same old story
    Turn away and we will be there
    Broken glass the saints are calling
    Turn away and turn toward this time
    I’ll break their bones
    No mercy shown
    Heaven knows it’s got to get better
    Watching her, this sinking ship,
    The times she tried and failed to wake this time,
    Oh I'll break them all, no mercy shown
    Heaven knows, it's got to be this time
    Avenues all lined with trees,
    Picture me in ten years’ time watching
    Watching forever
    Watching forever
    Everything…. Out of control
    You’re everything, out of control
    Out of control, out of control

    • @kyuseok98
      @kyuseok98 9 лет назад +2

      What an awesome lyrics catching!

    • @liamjones9541
      @liamjones9541 9 лет назад +3

      Are they the genuine lyrics for Ian's first verse? I thought they were still undiscovered, massive respect if they are right and to you or who ever made them out

    • @shawnkavanagh3554
      @shawnkavanagh3554 9 лет назад +1

      my interpretation of this version of the lyrics, after multiple listens. His lyrics didn't appear to be set in stone, as they seemed to change each time he sang the song.

    • @goosex3644
      @goosex3644 6 лет назад +1

      Thanks man

    • @dianalewis3148
      @dianalewis3148 6 лет назад +1

      Whoa ... I really like these lyrics

  • @andrewdate4955
    @andrewdate4955 3 года назад +33

    There’s something haunting about those muffled vocals. Beautiful song.

    • @lolah3838
      @lolah3838 Год назад +3

      The voice of a ghost.

  • @willvaughan3936
    @willvaughan3936 7 лет назад +58

    this was recorded at graveyard studios on 14th May 1980 according to Peter Hook.

    • @SynthMusicWorld
      @SynthMusicWorld 3 года назад +6

      really? Man, four days before Ian hung himself. Ian sounds pretty defeated at this point.

  • @ApriliaRacer14
    @ApriliaRacer14 Год назад +13

    Song meant everything to me as a kid. Everything.

  • @dylankelly2024
    @dylankelly2024 4 года назад +19

    RIP Ian. 40 years ago today. Immortal.

  • @tokenofdevotion
    @tokenofdevotion 11 лет назад +47

    This is were Joy Division were moving on and growing up but Ian broke that process. Damn Ian, we really miss you.

  • @ericac2596
    @ericac2596 7 лет назад +50

    And I"ll cry everytime I listen to this :(

    • @vonspire
      @vonspire 5 лет назад +3

      🖤🖤🖤🖤😭😭😭😢😢😢😢

    • @Broatch6
      @Broatch6 4 года назад +7

      we all do

  • @helterskelter7499
    @helterskelter7499 2 года назад +53

    This in my top 5 songs of all time and trust me I've heard it all.
    Ugh if only Ian was still here cause it hurts me so much. I'm honestly so bothered he left cause it aches me for a clear version. I hope they find a clear version or find something cause if it ever gets discovered then hell it might be the best actual song to exist even if the unclear version is still a top 5 for me.
    God if I had a time machine I would get that song hell I'd even save him it just hurts cause we'll never hear it. I know people wanted Kurt but I want Ian back.
    I've made probably a million posts about this song but my obsession to find "the" version kills me. There's no clean vocal ceremony song by Ian and it kills me. I saw a comment that said perhaps if you believe in fate then Ceremony was never supposed to be. It hurts cause it might be true. Part of me thinks Ian never wanted to popularise the song but part of me is too selfish. This song is definitely an unfortunate fate which only makes me believe even more that this might the best song that never was.
    Ceremony has became my most favourite Joy Division track. There's so many different versions on this song and it has been in my top joy division songs until it has become one of my favourite songs to ever exist. Everytime I listen to it, it defines a new story. The fact theres no clear ian curtis Ceremony song says how good this song is. Everytime I listen to it I always love it more. When I listen to it.. it feels like an ending to another night. It almost feels like your singing as if you know you screwed up and there's a presence in you a bad one that still longs chasing after you. It's almost as if your trying to correct a mistake that could never be managed.
    Ian probably wrote this song for himself when he saw everything in life, all the clouds, sky, and love all leaving him behind. Its almost leaving a trail to an endless or eternal point which will never end. Its sad to believe that suicide was believed to be the only way for him to balance the mistakes he has caused with his life. Its almost as if he knew that the trigger was suddenly come back to haunt him and there won't be Ian no more.
    In the end, there's no clear way of representing this song hence makes it one of the most cursed and beautiful song simultaneously. This is one of those songs that are impossible to hate due to its story and lyrics.

    • @denny1006
      @denny1006 10 месяцев назад

      this is the best version of ceremony, captures the emotion of what this tape gives you. this a clear version you are searching for, this....

  • @TheKathleenR
    @TheKathleenR 12 лет назад +22

    love the way the drums sound in this!

  • @sergiofutbol123
    @sergiofutbol123 2 месяца назад +2

    I saw New Order live last year and when they played this I just about cry such a good song

  • @sabbathshepard9861
    @sabbathshepard9861 3 года назад +14

    This song and 'In a lonely place' are probably JD's darkest most depressing songs. God the chills.

  • @shanebonter6521
    @shanebonter6521 9 лет назад +50

    When something so beautifully sorrowful apears to my ears... It's always ian's voice that brings a tear to my eye.... I remember in my younger years, falling to pieces when I would think about how much tallent was lost in Mr. Curtis... My first memory of music is listening to unknown pleasures on cassette in my moms shitty little geo metro..... Begging her to play it over and over,.... Oh sober nostalgias bitter sting bites at my heart strings once more..

    • @rachelsonfire
      @rachelsonfire 8 лет назад +3

      +Shane “The Suburban Shaman” Bonter Beautifully put. Thanks for such a sweet comment. My heart is heavy for your sorrow. I share that sorrow.

    • @charlottepoole8963
      @charlottepoole8963 7 лет назад +1

      Shane Bonter where are you from pal ?

    • @charlesroberts3650
      @charlesroberts3650 5 лет назад

      I miss him so much, specially since I did not know about him until after he died. Touched my Soul with his words and tragic genius......

  • @fernandorato6152
    @fernandorato6152 4 года назад +14

    Best singer ever... R.I.P. Ian.

  • @Vox_Phantom_Mark-VI
    @Vox_Phantom_Mark-VI 9 лет назад +23

    Ian, the great, the best, the genius...the eternal!!!!

  • @michellemarshall9879
    @michellemarshall9879 4 года назад +17

    RIP Ian Curtis. Legend and mentor for so many 💜

  • @Sacmagique
    @Sacmagique 11 лет назад +29

    I have completely violated the replay button.

  • @Nominay
    @Nominay 5 лет назад +30

    This version has a restlessness to it that the post-Curtis version doesn't. The guitar also has a post punk feistiness to it that the New Order one doesn't.

  • @ExiLeProductionz
    @ExiLeProductionz 10 лет назад +100

    This band and new order has gotten me thru really tuff times. My mom has major liver problems and my father doesn't think i exisit.

    • @patrick6427
      @patrick6427 6 лет назад +12

      Yo bro, I'm really sorry to hear that. I know its been a while since you posted this comment, but I hope you know that people will ALWAYS be here for you on this Earth and people will ALWAYS love you. Even if its just a random internet stranger.
      If you're still in a dark place, message me buddy. Lets talk.

    • @RoyAH.
      @RoyAH. 6 лет назад

      Amazing.

    • @tedex8100
      @tedex8100 5 лет назад +2

      I'm right here with @Patrick
      Stay massively strong,my brother,my PM is also available to you.

    • @tedex8100
      @tedex8100 5 лет назад +2

      @@patrick6427
      I love your Soul.You're a Pillar of Society, in my book.
      May your God Bless you.

    • @kojinko
      @kojinko 5 лет назад +1

      I hope your able to cope a little better after 5 years.

  • @sup3rkangkong
    @sup3rkangkong 10 лет назад +21

    love the guitars on this

  • @paulcurtis1639
    @paulcurtis1639 Год назад +8

    The best joy division song.

  • @jasona1106
    @jasona1106 2 дня назад

    I can feel the pain of Ian’s lyrics in various songs . A cry for help with many listening but still unheard.

  • @azariahportillo
    @azariahportillo 2 года назад +14

    not sure if this is correct but here it is:
    This is why it’s so unnerving
    Would you say the same old story?
    This is why the wheels are turning
    Turn away and turn towards this time
    Listen now the savior’s calling
    Come again and we will be there
    Traveled fast but now I’m stopping
    Think again and change its way this time
    Oh, I’ll break them all, no mercy shown
    Heaven knows I got to get somewhere
    Crash and burn, the things I did
    The times she cried, too frail to wake this time
    I’ll break them all, no mercy shown
    Heaven knows I got to be somewhere
    Avenues all lined with trees
    Picture me in ten year’s time, watching
    Watching forever
    Watching forever
    Forever, letting go
    Forever, letting go
    Forever, letting go

    • @JustPlainGod
      @JustPlainGod Год назад

      I think he says "forever letting go let it be shown, and/or watching love grow

    • @Pyrrhic537
      @Pyrrhic537 Год назад

      So sad. Beautiful song but tragic and haunting. He was suicidal.

    • @azariahportillo
      @azariahportillo Год назад +1

      @@JustPlainGod hmm..this was a long time ago but i found the right lyrics

    • @azariahportillo
      @azariahportillo Год назад +2

      here’s an updated version of the lyrics:
      This is why it’s so unnerving
      Would you say the same old story?
      This is why the wheels are turning
      Turn away and turn towards this time
      Listen now the savior’s calling
      Come again and we will be there
      Traveled fast but now I’m stopping
      Think again and change its way this time
      Oh, I’ll break them all, no mercy shown
      Heaven knows I got to get somewhere
      Crash and burn, the things I did
      The times she cried, too frail to wake this time
      I’ll break them all, no mercy shown
      Heaven knows it’s got to be somewhere
      Avenues all lined with trees
      Picture me in ten year’s time, watching
      Watching forever
      Watching forever
      Where I will go, they will go
      Where I will go, they will go
      Wherever I go, they will go

    • @azariahportillo
      @azariahportillo Год назад +1

      @@Pyrrhic537 yea. but i could somehow relate to what he’s singing

  • @ST1973
    @ST1973 2 года назад +7

    JoY Division, one of the best bands ever, in the era of the punk-rock bands ever

  • @bluemysterio6194
    @bluemysterio6194 Год назад +8

    43 years later

  • @derin111
    @derin111 3 года назад +9

    Poor Ian.
    Hearing this is and watching the video.
    I was at the ULU gig (the one that comes free with the CLOSER cd), aged 16 and even at that age you sensed something terrible was going to happen.
    RIP Ian.

  • @waycnf7229
    @waycnf7229 3 года назад +7

    One detail I think most people overlook is that what is mostly interpreted as "The times she cried, too frail to wake this time" also sounds a lot like "The captain shouts, too frail to wake this time". I think the second line is likelier if you believe he's saying "this sinking ship" and not "these things she said".

  • @Dinno854
    @Dinno854 2 года назад +19

    É triste saber que nunca iremos saber o que Ian realmente escreveu em sua música, mas isso a torna ainda mais especial para mim. Definitivamente uma das melhores que já escutei.

  • @TheKathleenR
    @TheKathleenR 12 лет назад +9

    If you blast this song out full blast! IT'S EPIC.

  • @michelemarsoni583
    @michelemarsoni583 3 года назад +3

    Happy birthday Ian, rest in peace 🖤

  • @Robobotic
    @Robobotic 5 лет назад +35

    the ending sounds to me like "I will turn, turn in to stone.
    Forever, turn in to stone"

  • @TheBeautyBoxLife
    @TheBeautyBoxLife 10 месяцев назад +2

    Such a great song .. When N.O. plays this live on stage, I can truly hear the sadness in Bernards voice, sadness in knowing it should be Ian, whenever NO play a JD song live, it's definitely an ode to their dear friend Ian. 😢

  • @adamdxion34
    @adamdxion34 8 лет назад +10

    happy new year everyone
    and rip ian sadly missed by many

  • @meneervanrijckevorsel8856
    @meneervanrijckevorsel8856 3 года назад +4

    Heard this song in 1981 when i borrowed still from a friend (was 14 years old), never stopped listening. Couldn't believe that Ian didn't live anymore when I discovered them. JD is timeless (son of a friend is a major fan now, because of me :) )

  • @jameskerr9346
    @jameskerr9346 8 лет назад +9

    Love this so much have it on repeat. Great tribute to Ian Curtis. So nice to see him smile at the end. RIP Ian GBNF Lisa McDonough via James Kerr.

  • @leachristine5264
    @leachristine5264 4 месяца назад +2

    Wooooooooooow I had no idea there was a recording of Ian singing this

  • @sorryimsosad
    @sorryimsosad 2 года назад +20

    Ian was one of the sensitive ones. The ones who need the most protection but ends up the loneliest

    • @smkxodnwbwkdns8369
      @smkxodnwbwkdns8369 2 года назад +4

      nonsense. ian had friends, lovers, and family. he was no more sensitive than anyone else. he killed himself because he had physical health problems that made his life intolerable.

  • @anidamsa4396
    @anidamsa4396 10 месяцев назад +1

    Bought this first time around with Bernard singing on it. It’s a masterpiece either way. Love the rawness and energy of it . Pure expression . ❤️🙏🙏👏

  • @Kingrizla-fm2rr
    @Kingrizla-fm2rr 4 года назад +55

    I love this version but it always makes me sad too. I think that Closer is the best post-punk album ever but Ceremony shows they were just getting started. Brilliant as NO are, I've long believed that had JD lasted and continued to evolve at the stunning rate they already were they would have become the best band ever of any genre or any period in history.

    • @OpossumGeorge
      @OpossumGeorge Год назад

      I don't think so. Closer by mood is a complete finale, end of all ends. There is literally no way where Ian's mind could grow whilst keeping a burden of such illness on his shoulders. He could go into some serious treatment instead of taking his life, but this would take years and tremendous effort to heal such wounds and he would be a completely different person and creator afterwards

  • @Stampistuta
    @Stampistuta 5 месяцев назад +1

    Reading Hooks JD book and it’s brought me here. What a gem to have this recorded and available.

  • @mjdomicello
    @mjdomicello 7 лет назад +10

    yes, this is one of the only 3 versions Ian had ever sung on.

  • @dartmouthhoop
    @dartmouthhoop 6 лет назад +10

    Man, the shots of Manchester from 1979/1980 look so stark....music fits it perfectly...they were definitely a band from a time and a place

  • @adolfo4943
    @adolfo4943 Год назад +2

    Me sigue maravillando igual ahora que la primera vez que la oí hace ya tanto...

  • @science-revision
    @science-revision 2 года назад +2

    The best of joy division.......love it

  • @jimmyvulmer9476
    @jimmyvulmer9476 2 года назад +2

    Miss you Ian

  • @moonobodies1
    @moonobodies1 2 года назад +4

    Siempre he querido ver, más contenido de Ian en vídeo, cuando lo ví sonreír no pude evitar sentirme triste, como deseo haberlo conocido, siento tanta empatía con él, ver vídeos de él en vivo me pone la piel de gallina

  • @acmemasteri
    @acmemasteri 4 месяца назад +1

    I have this without a cleaning and this is good.
    Great job.
    18th day I put my restaured studio outtakes from 1979 and that original video released aug 18, 1982.

  • @MichaelDeTorrice
    @MichaelDeTorrice 5 лет назад +10

    this song gives you the vibe you'd get if new order songs were sung by Ian...amazing as always

  • @citileft
    @citileft 4 года назад +9

    This is the greatest rock song ever written. I hope one day through technology we can have a proper Ian Curtis vocal. I love the Galaxie 500 version just as much. But the song has a longing and plaintive beauty that is heartbreaking

  • @victorrodriguez5765
    @victorrodriguez5765 2 месяца назад

    My favorite Joy División song ................. an inmense hug of light from Perú 💋💋💋💋💋❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹☀️⚡🌈😎👍...

  • @jamesthompson3016
    @jamesthompson3016 2 года назад +2

    Rip Ian this is the best version!!

  • @sergiomassama
    @sergiomassama 9 лет назад +2

    JOY DIVISION EVER!

  • @saw141
    @saw141 2 года назад +4

    It's interesting that Ian wrote about "Avenues lined with Trees" in The Only Mistake, and this... it was clearly an important thought for him.

  • @jpcsfp
    @jpcsfp 4 года назад +3

    Dang, chills down my spine and to see them guys smiling and enjoying themselves brings me tears of joy that these brilliant musicians had really fun times together.

  • @christinahorton15
    @christinahorton15 2 года назад +1

    Legend. Thank you Ian for your soul touching music❤️

  • @acmemasteri
    @acmemasteri 4 месяца назад +1

    There is their last gig's Ceremony (1st line can be heard only by flooding mics) on 'Still' and one normally recorded tape (this cass recording) as they reheals it where's Ian on vocals.
    I have had these all nearly 25 years. And I have remastered this tape also. I just don't know where it is but it's not a question... just a meaning of to an end.
    So as I listen my first vinyl ever, Ceremony's (almost fully listened second pressing) it's great to see that "Music written by Joy Division"... So they made kinda a cover from it.
    And so they really did.
    "Chicken's won't stop"-record pressing's note between the track & ... as "Wish You Were Here" on b-side.

  • @user-nekkek228
    @user-nekkek228 2 года назад +6

    You will find that words unnerve me
    Different time, the same old story
    This is why the things are turning
    Go forward, it hasn't gone this time
    Listen to the same old glory
    Then again the same old difference
    Word will part, so I won't happily
    Going then and never go this time
    I’ll break them all, no mercy shown
    Heaven knows, it’s got to get closer
    Watching her, these things she said
    The times she cried
    Too frail to wake this time
    I’ll break them all, no mercy shown
    Heaven knows, it’s got to get closer
    Avenues all lined with trees
    Picture me and then you start watching
    Watching forever, watching forever

    • @f-ingstupid4408
      @f-ingstupid4408 2 года назад

      I think these might be the closest to the lyrics, and man are they painful not in a bad way but a emotional way

  • @blackcoastuk
    @blackcoastuk Год назад +1

    Thank you for this.

  • @presentedadeusa3635
    @presentedadeusa3635 9 лет назад +10

    pqp! emociona demais...

  • @azurasnumber1fan
    @azurasnumber1fan 3 года назад +2

    It took a long while before I knew New Order was Joy Division. I never put two and two together. Cerenony is still my fave as the opening song from the Substance album. By chance, I found love will tear us apart, much later. Fell for Ian Curtis, then. And then, to learn the two were the same, blew me away. Meant even more.

  • @johnr2630
    @johnr2630 5 лет назад +2

    Of course we all wish he was here. But what people don’t understand. Is there are some people on this earth that make such a mark and shine so much brighter that they shine for half as long. They are supposed to be remembered in their prime. Therefore they never grow old. I mean just think about some of the artists that were huge in the 60s and 70s they’re all fat and ugly most of them and start playing shows at morongo casinos and shit and keep making music even though it’s not that great anymore or people are just tired of them. We’ll that will never happen with IAN. All we can do is be thankful that he was able to do the incredible things he did in the short time we had him on this earth. R.I.P. IAN & JOY DIVISION forever

  • @TerryLee788
    @TerryLee788 4 года назад +2

    ♥️ love this song, one of my favourites of Joy Division. ❤

  • @Onemoretimetine
    @Onemoretimetine 9 месяцев назад

    And then Hooky formed his own band Peter Hook & the Light and brought back the true heart and soul of Joy Division/New Order. Thanks Hooky - forever grateful!! Fans of over 42 years - seen them live x7 times with x3 more booked. Can't get enough. Hooky is Joy Division and New Order. If you are a fan try and catch a gig - pure total joy!!!

  • @jasonjones1690
    @jasonjones1690 4 года назад +1

    makes me feel so sad.......when I was young listening and even more so now.......

  • @clashcityrocker1221
    @clashcityrocker1221 13 лет назад +4

    I wish Joy Division had recorded a full version :(. The New Order 80 and 81 recordings are both the best song of all time.

  • @2visiondigital
    @2visiondigital Год назад +1

    Holy Crap, we all could use a hug forever.

  • @simonbooth244
    @simonbooth244 7 лет назад +6

    Everything that Joy Division are to people now is what they were to be.Ian realised that...I think he knew he was only playing the 'hand of cards' dealt to him...he was a passing angel. I visit his resting place & his front door every Monday. I feel his soul still in Macclesfields streets...

    • @gomaplayzyt3603
      @gomaplayzyt3603 5 лет назад

      Yes, cuz when you die naturally , you rest, but no rest for those who killed themselves, he never rest in peace, he suffers from all his life

  • @marksim990
    @marksim990 3 года назад +2

    Raw and natural, a true demo tape. Absolute gold.

  • @ButterflyRoseX
    @ButterflyRoseX 13 лет назад +1

    One of my all-time *Favourites*.. No words...

  • @ElGwapo1927
    @ElGwapo1927 3 года назад +7

    Is there a sadder, more poignant track recorded anywhere than this? Just exquisite.

  • @jumofi
    @jumofi Год назад +1

    First time I heard this song in 1988 I immediately hated it. Two years later I bought Still album it became one of my favorite songs forever! Times change indeed...

  • @jamlhubderso.3166
    @jamlhubderso.3166 2 года назад +2

    This such a gem! This is a hit much better with ians voice and orignal sound! 🎶

  • @hector3730
    @hector3730 2 года назад

    To come back to this .Brilliant ............

  • @peaceandlove22999
    @peaceandlove22999 3 года назад +2

    really fucking missing him today

  • @mylesco.5385
    @mylesco.5385 5 лет назад +13

    This is why events unnerve me,
    They find it all, a different story,
    Notice whom for wheels are turning,
    Turn again and turn towards this time,
    All she ask's the strength to hold me,
    Then again the same old story,
    World will travel, oh so quickly,
    Travel first and lean towards this time.
    Oh, I'll break them down, no mercy shown,
    Heaven knows, it's got to be this time,
    Watching her, these things she said,
    The times she cried,
    Too frail to wake this time.
    Oh I'll break them down, no mercy shown
    Heaven knows, it's got to be this time,
    Avenues all lined with trees,
    Picture me and then you start watching,
    Watching forever, forever,
    Watching love grow, forever,
    Letting me know, forever

  • @raimywinter2309
    @raimywinter2309 Год назад

    Thank you Ian.🌹🙏🏻

  • @axeldlr10
    @axeldlr10 2 года назад +1

    I love this song, and this version with Ian it is amazing, I can feel his pain. It's a bautiful sad song

  • @erikjmineers3816
    @erikjmineers3816 4 года назад +1

    This song and band both brilliant it's almost like he knew or had a premonition his time was up literally stirs every emotion imaginable into me when I listen to this song

  • @craigeyler4495
    @craigeyler4495 8 лет назад +5

    Ian's vocal melody for the verses in this version fits nicely and sounds great, he abandoned it in favor of the melody we hear in the 'Still' live version. It's a little outside of his range but has an air of 'desperation' about it that is not present in this version. I like them both.