if it's your first time watching him sure but he's been doing the same for so long that for judges and ppl who know him it no longer feels as special as it used to be
Issue's moves are always SMOOTH! His powermoves look almost effortless, whereas Pacpac's powermoves in this vid look like they've got a ton of momentum in them
No he was doing his best moves. If it wasn't, it would be an insult to pacpac and battle itself. It's just that the opponent was good and people already saw his moves. Original and creative moves though
this "kill the beat"" is stupid imho. Anyone who knows the track can do random footwork and stop at any given time to match the beat. it's pointless and skilless.
@@rz9196 not saying that, it's just seems like everyone keeps disregarding how much efforts and work it takes, a lot more than footwork, to get powermoves down. I used to breakdance back in the days and powermoves were tuff, i had my own uprock and footwork, was easy. Read the OP comment's, "real dancer". Back in the early 2000-2006, it was all about who will come up with the harder powermove. Now, it's 95% about hit the beat, regardless if you can do power or not If you hit the beat, you win.
@@abetuna2707 Cuz its dance not gymnastic if u want the best powermove do gymnastic bruh u should kill the beat when u can thats what is the most enjoyable to watch in every dance.
@@KyleXy0 don't get me wrong, I'm all about the dance for sure, it's a foundation to breaking. It's just that, I noticed a lot of unfairly won battles just because some bboy did a freeze or stopped footwork at a given moment during the song. The crowd went nuts, and he won, even though he wasn't supposed to.
Don't you just hate people that think they're so much bigger than they really are? Bro, if you would just stop acting like you're god's gift to humanity, everyone would be a fan.
ever since Pac Pac got destroyed by Waydi, it's clear that he upped his game a bit ... his musicality was better and I can't speak on him biting moves from other dancers ... but his sets did look better, he seemed much more composed and confident in this battle at least.
Waydi is a hip hop dancer, Pac Pac is a bboy, fusion concept doesn't really favor bboys. And Pac Pac was 14 when he battled against Waydi, he has gotten a hundred times better now in 2019
Yes Issue is the most unique and creative bboy from Korea. All koreans practice is power and for the exception of few Issue stands out of all. But like the other individual said, is this your first time watching Issue ?? Issue hasnt changed much his style since Ibe 09 where he became known for his style. Pac Pac was a good match for him because of their synchronization with the music. Pac Pac won on many levels, not just music.
Issue was more rounded for me and had more originality. Pac pac was only good with his dynamics, everything else was alright. But it seemed that Issue was more relaxed than usual and didn't come out as hard. Still would have gone with issue tho aha.
Strange decision. Pac Pac reminded me of a combo of Lil Zoo and Issei, though without quite the same level of dynamics of either. He didn't really flow his sets much and repeating quite a lot of footwork techs and concepts. The crowd seems to go wild for very straight forward beat kills as well...I like his twisty foot techs, although that reminded me of Lil Zoo quite a bit as well. He has his own spin on things, but not enough to differentiate him at this level I think. Funny, saw this through the whole event, although great they are getting hyped. Issue, on the other hand, had much more originality, linked his stuff better and demonstrated a greater range of dynamics and floorwork.
Chris Myer Hey, dude, a question: Would you shut the fuck up? Stop calling bites. It's fucking idiotic. Every bboy bites just as much, when they do an indian step, a bar mitzvah footwork, an airflare, a windmill, so cut it with the bite calls.
+Ickguenthrasil +blehhrrrr is this hip hop or what? Is hip hop raw or what? Bites don't matter bro, look at it as this perspective. Six step was also created by ONE guy (not TWO OR THREE or MORE) and still the world bited it from that guy huh... Pacpac maybe bites but he puts his own flava to it or maybe he didn't know it was from zoot... A real bite is someone that knows that move belongs to that guy and does it 100% the same like that guy (wich pacpac doesn't do).
+bboy flo-wing no srsly that was a 100% bite. he changed NOTHING dude... I mean sure there is the possibility that he didn't know it and maybe he came up with it himself, but that's one crazy coincidence :D
BeatManiac amazigh is an identity but the country is Algeria , stop being regionalism and racist even pac pac is so proud being algerian amazigh at the same time
It’s crazy to see what we started in NY, grow to this level, Chinese have taken everything we started in New York and become great at it, djing popping, breaking
Im reading the comments and i agree. Pac is more typical bboy. Issue was bringing so much uniqueness to his style
if it's your first time watching him sure but he's been doing the same for so long that for judges and ppl who know him it no longer feels as special as it used to be
Regardless of the decision, I always appreciate two boys showing respect in the end. Dope battle.
Issue's moves are always SMOOTH! His powermoves look almost effortless, whereas Pacpac's powermoves in this vid look like they've got a ton of momentum in them
As a huge Morning Of Owl fan, I gotta say I'd give this one to Pac Pac.
Pac Pac is one of my fav boys out there ...I love his *attitude* ..that raw battle intelligent attitude ...just brilliant ^^
issue wasn't taking pacpac seriously at all lmao
Metal Bat Yep, I'm glad he lost.
youre right. he became the legendary douchebag.
Whenever a Japanese/Korean bboy gets owned It's either
1) He wasn't taking the battle seriously
2) He was robbed by the judges
Always excuses.
That's why he lost pac pac was just better.
No he was doing his best moves. If it wasn't, it would be an insult to pacpac and battle itself. It's just that the opponent was good and people already saw his moves. Original and creative moves though
Watching ISSUE dance I can feel the music, listening to the music I can see pac pac dance.
f*cking dope battle man!! the talent level..
now this is a fucken battle!! sickest i seen in a while
Pac Pac Feel The Music For Sure 💯 💪🚀
Pac Pac dances with the music. He kills the beat every tracks. Real dancer!!!
this "kill the beat"" is stupid imho. Anyone who knows the track can do random footwork and stop at any given time to match the beat. it's pointless and skilless.
@@abetuna2707 you are saying that there's no point to dance to the rythm?
@@rz9196 not saying that, it's just seems like everyone keeps disregarding how much efforts and work it takes, a lot more than footwork, to get powermoves down. I used to breakdance back in the days and powermoves were tuff, i had my own uprock and footwork, was easy. Read the OP comment's, "real dancer". Back in the early 2000-2006, it was all about who will come up with the harder powermove. Now, it's 95% about hit the beat, regardless if you can do power or not If you hit the beat, you win.
@@abetuna2707 Cuz its dance not gymnastic if u want the best powermove do gymnastic bruh u should kill the beat when u can thats what is the most enjoyable to watch in every dance.
@@KyleXy0 don't get me wrong, I'm all about the dance for sure, it's a foundation to breaking. It's just that, I noticed a lot of unfairly won battles just because some bboy did a freeze or stopped footwork at a given moment during the song. The crowd went nuts, and he won, even though he wasn't supposed to.
Winner Issue .
stfu
Amantes de los asiaticos!
Nice joke
This is a very complicated and strange event....
Don't you just hate people that think they're so much bigger than they really are? Bro, if you would just stop acting like you're god's gift to humanity, everyone would be a fan.
u mean pac pac? he doesn't act like that
I actually think Issue is the best bboy I have ever seen. He has the full package
in this battle he suck
Hahahahahahahahahahahahajajjajajahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahajhahah
@Excelsior yes its always one of two Things either korean bboy didnt use his best moves or korean bboy got robbed. Lmao shut up kid
@Excelsior you must be a korean eboy thats the only logical answer to me
@Excelsior ive seen your Comments? And now should i ne scared or what? You use your brain
Issue already have got so many signatures. He is legend.
ever since Pac Pac got destroyed by Waydi, it's clear that he upped his game a bit ... his musicality was better and I can't speak on him biting moves from other dancers ... but his sets did look better, he seemed much more composed and confident in this battle at least.
+xinkspillx Pac Pac got nasty since then!! HOT DAMN!
Waydi is a hip hop dancer, Pac Pac is a bboy, fusion concept doesn't really favor bboys.
And Pac Pac was 14 when he battled against Waydi, he has gotten a hundred times better now in 2019
does anyone have info on the tracklisting please?
DOPE battle!!!!
Issue is a slicing blade of genius! Unstoppable. Imaginative. He’s a technical surgeon. No way the other guy won!
Ever heard of musicality and groove ?
@@mimo19essHe too flavorless and bias to see anything
If you aint on beat, you aint dancing. The difference between acrobats and dancers is music.
Bboy issue a great story teller....
camera quality is so sick
Omg pacpac too good
Winner Pac Pac .
winner Issue , Issue is best level and originality
judges buuuu:/
Damn, they film this shit in blu ray?
pac won based on musicality but issue was doin shit i never seen before
Is this the first time you're seeing Issue bboy? lol
Yes Issue is the most unique and creative bboy from Korea. All koreans practice is power and for the exception of few Issue stands out of all. But like the other individual said, is this your first time watching Issue ?? Issue hasnt changed much his style since Ibe 09 where he became known for his style. Pac Pac was a good match for him because of their synchronization with the music. Pac Pac won on many levels, not just music.
Okays so sorta off topic but Issue’s shoes...
look really comfortable~ i don’t know why, but they just look so comfy!!! >O
dude! I got the same question! I think it's because it's a zero drop shoes instead of thick sole shoes.
Last Song?
Issue was more rounded for me and had more originality. Pac pac was only good with his dynamics, everything else was alright. But it seemed that Issue was more relaxed than usual and didn't come out as hard. Still would have gone with issue tho aha.
Mahipal
Great battle, styles are so similar 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Huh? what's similar?
@@aroys900 styles, didn't you read what I wrote?
@@paulweston2246 nothing alike bro
@@aroys900 maybe in a fools eye that knows nothing about bboy culture
@@paulweston2246 Pac pac is a copy cat and Issue is what we called original bro
the name of dj
1:42 song?
this was a pretty damn hard battle to me issue had an amazing original style and musicality while pac pac had versatility and a dope style too
Pac Pac !, nice musicality, crazy transitions, only fatality´s
These people have ankles of steel!
last song pls?
One of the DOPEST BATTLES EVERRR
Issue love you from🇮🇳🇮🇳
Song 3 ?
homeboy got some wicked floorwork tho!
so much flavor in this battle
y el ritmo de la musica cuando lo levan ?
los twins escuchan la muscia por eso son los mejores
someone last song pls?
anyone has a tracklist over here?
Issue, when you come from a ninja family but discovered breaking
i love pac pac man
1:45 song please
they bothe use the same dance face.. who's the original?
Strange decision. Pac Pac reminded me of a combo of Lil Zoo and Issei, though without quite the same level of dynamics of either. He didn't really flow his sets much and repeating quite a lot of footwork techs and concepts. The crowd seems to go wild for very straight forward beat kills as well...I like his twisty foot techs, although that reminded me of Lil Zoo quite a bit as well. He has his own spin on things, but not enough to differentiate him at this level I think. Funny, saw this through the whole event, although great they are getting hyped. Issue, on the other hand, had much more originality, linked his stuff better and demonstrated a greater range of dynamics and floorwork.
right bboy
Wtf ? Shut up please
will never understand the pac pac/lilzoo comparisons, they are really nothing alike ..
song ?
MUSIC PLEASE I need to know.
greatest battle ever? top ten mos def
3rd song?
Big Respect For Issue
pac pac viscous
what is that weirdo move at 1:41?
انشاء الله dat is good
Pac Pac!!
In this battle pac pac teached issue better kung fu dancing style lol. He respond to all his kung fu style moves
Issue was robbed and everybody here knows it. He just just had way more originality and flow.
more originality doing the same moves for 10 years lul
I love pac pac
Pac Pac killing the beat every round!!
Pac Pac is amazing moves like gum
Issue is an impressive artist
what was the last song?
first beat?
The ninja guy showed some really cool moves but he was off beat too many times. Pac Pac was far better in my opinion - amazing moves and musicality
watched so much of these 2 over the years, pac pac= freestyle issue = script. he's amazing but it's always the same material.
dope as fuuckkkkkk!!!!!!
music?? pls
THAT ISSUE GOT SOME MOVES IM TELLING YOU IF HE WAS ON SYNQ WITH BEAT HE COULD HAD WON WITH THOSE STYLES
pac pac, unique style dancer
what song ?
Pac pac skiils music feeling hard freezes
Dammmmmn battle!!!!!
Issue ka style yaar 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Pac pac: A
audience: WOOOOOOOOWWW
How old is PacPac in this vid?
@Pedro Wong He is 15 in this video. Born in october 1999.
Pac Pac kills the beat
On beat vs not on beat.
+Collins Ongaya - Glad Pac Pac won :)
PAC PAC is one of the biggest bitters in the game. He's known for taking other bboys moves
Chris Myer Hey, dude, a question: Would you shut the fuck up? Stop calling bites. It's fucking idiotic. Every bboy bites just as much, when they do an indian step, a bar mitzvah footwork, an airflare, a windmill, so cut it with the bite calls.
Chris Myer well I'm black and like making chinese food so I guess I'm a biter.
name a move he bited
Pac pac killed it wooow
Shame how pac pac peaked, it’s hard to watch his battles nowadays
I see alot of people get mad cuze Pac Pac win get over it plze xD
4.50 they all smiling
Pac Pac should get red bull this Times
music st1
pac was really good
Stop talking about bites please. Pacpac puts his own style to those moves so can you guys please stop complaining?
dude 01:07-01:11 was literally a bite from bboy zoot. pac pac didnt even change it a bit.
+Ickguenthrasil and also a lot of other moove not only this one . he make a mix beteewn all bboy
+blehhrrrr yeah, I mentioned this one because it came to my mind first
+Ickguenthrasil +blehhrrrr is this hip hop or what? Is hip hop raw or what? Bites don't matter bro, look at it as this perspective. Six step was also created by ONE guy (not TWO OR THREE or MORE) and still the world bited it from that guy huh... Pacpac maybe bites but he puts his own flava to it or maybe he didn't know it was from zoot... A real bite is someone that knows that move belongs to that guy and does it 100% the same like that guy (wich pacpac doesn't do).
+bboy flo-wing no srsly that was a 100% bite. he changed NOTHING dude...
I mean sure there is the possibility that he didn't know it and maybe he came up with it himself, but that's one crazy coincidence :D
they scream for pac pac about nothing he did !!!!!!
Art breaking tayouba you're pathetic lol
Pac Pac is good but sorry,those are not his moves...
Tony Wu From who did he bite than ? I'm really wondering because I don't know
Nick Stallaerts
i can only tell the obvious one: Issei + Zoot
oh yeah I see now, thanks
+Tony Wu 4:37 might be bitten off of Zyko(or the other way around). That or they came up with the move together, since they might be friends.
Tony Wu It's not a move of Issei, it's just some one-handed Halos
이슈는 이 대결엔 힘을 다 안쓴것같다
Pac pac arabic ?!
Eren Seen yes he is originaly from algeria
He is Amazighen
BeatManiac amazigh is an identity but the country is Algeria , stop being regionalism and racist even pac pac is so proud being algerian amazigh at the same time
Issue is so comfortable on the floor and so original.
It’s crazy to see what we started in NY, grow to this level, Chinese have taken everything we started in New York and become great at it, djing popping, breaking
He's from South Korea. Dude.
Hot battel
Pac pac so sad for your last round 😂🙏
bboy issue ist very iteressant bboy charakter..
Issue where are you now?
switzerland
@@lucywon6552 please come back again in battle I am your fan I want to see you in the scene.Love from Nepal🇳🇵
Issue's dance looks more like a martial art than a dance