The freeze frame is like the Eye of Sauron staring us down until we understand the concepts under discussion. A more friendly Eye of Sauron, but still.
I had AA a lot over my weekend at the WSOP. But the one time I decided to fold AA on the river early in the tournament for my life, villain rivered 2 pair with KQ and shoved. It resulted in me getting in to the money and accumulating 6 bounties. Awesome weekend.
In an LH game, hadn't entered a hand in awhile. Come in as UTG with the raise and get 4 callers plus the sb and bb. I'm holding the red aces and the flop comes 6-7-9 all Spade's bet and a raise to me and those behind me are reaching for chips.....yeah it was a funeral on the flop.
So, I tend to go with strict pot size on my 3bets, but I like bigger sizing 500 BB deep. On the flop I *DO* like range bets, so im gonna go 1/3 pot. When I get raised on the flop, my plan is to simply call 3 streets and let villain bluff off or value-own himself. if he has 44 or 22 then so be it. 44 and 22 should not be opening UTG by the best players, but if the game doesn’t have enough 3-bets and 4 bets preflop, then 44 and 22 can be good raises and I would expect a good player to know that… I guess I would have to know the player to know if he is going to overplay KQ here, and if he is apt to not 4-bet AK. Also, will this type of player go nuts with A5s or A3s in a spot like this? True we block those combos hard… Still my plan is to call off to keep his bluffs in… On the turn I don’t love the Q♣️ like caller said. We’re now behind the value-own KQ. Which I think the villain will have more than just 3 combos of KQs, but we have 8 outs against it. And his bluffs are still in including small suited aces. And his value-own AK is still in. I call. River T♣️yuck. So now if villain bets big we have to ask: would he go for a big value bet with 44 now that AJs has come in for Broadway ? I think with all these high clubs on board, villain can expect hero doesn’t have a flush unless we have A♣️x♣️-but of course we will have those combos. Tough to know. Because if not--then He pretty much only has Ax♣️♣️ himself or a bluff. I don’t think KQ is value betting this river… So he does go large. With A♣️ I’m always calling the river. Without the A♣️ it’s way tougher. Maybe randomize to 1/3 call and 2/3 fold? Put 2 red chips in your hand and 1 green, call if the green comes out… Idunno if I believe A9♣️♣️ that doesn’t have either a gutterball or a pair on the flop…
Villain is a fish. Calling a large 3bet preflop with A9 and raising the flop. If hero thinks he’s a profit player, that says a lot about the table. Hero’s line was good. What is villain going to do when a non-club turns? If villain has a clue he’s not raising KQ on flop. Ak, A5, A3 and sets.
I don't think anyone did anything wrong except UTG should have bet $750 on the river for crying call. Nowadays it seems like people call on the flop for back doors, we all do that sometimes. There's so many tournaments, cash games don't really run until 6pm like at Wynn and Aria. I've never seen so many Asians playing poker in LV. I think it's Husker effect. Asians play cash like tournament, Euros are aggro, Canadians in between, Americans more by the book. Imo
Another caller who thinks in absolutes, after playing with a villain for just a few hours. Caller says: “Opponent would 4-bet all combos of KK preflop.” And “opponent would never raise the flop with AK”. How the heck would you know this after playing with a guy for the first time. It’s better to think of these spots in terms of percentages, or by assigning less combos of a certain hand; but never be so confident to think you know 100% what another player is doing.
I had pocket A's in the small blind with the button straddle at a 1/3 table. Button raised to 25. I raised to 85. Big blind and button call Flop comes: 7,2,3 rainbow. BB checks, button bets 125. *I fold*. BB goes all in for 700 effective. Button folds face up 2,3. BB shows pocket 7's.
You get one of the safest boards and you fold to one bet, button raises with trash, hits a disguised two pair on a safe board, and also folds. At a 1/3 table. You guys are either too good for that game or must’ve had some tell on BB. Either way poker is dead if people are folding those hands in 1/3
Great zen like fold by both yourself and the button! You two should definitely take your hand-reading skills to higher levels and definitely move WAY up in stakes that's amazing! I'm never folding AA or two- pair to one bet in that spot so thanks for sharing
@@jacobgoldman5780 again as I said there is no way A9 clubs and at that point yes KJ is a bluff and AK is trying to get the same hand to fold. If you need anything else please feel free
I don’t believe A9 of clubs. Classic post river bluff. If he makes up that story, I think it’s very likely you got bluffed. He picks 9 of clubs because it’s unlikely you held the 9 yourself and can catch him lying. And you probably call river when you have the A of clubs. I don’t think nut flush makes much sense here for a thinking reg that is raising back doors on flop. He should know enough to size turn correctly if he picks up his flush draw equity. When we reach turn with 665 in the middle and 2175 behind as villain, we have to size turn to jam river. Betting like 550 (leaving 1600ish behind with 1700 to 1800 in the pot) seems automatic for a strong player. When he instead takes this half pot sizing, I think it’s weighted toward complete bs that’s trying to fold out your flop floats. And then he got a river where he felt he could change his mind and get you off a real hand.
I guess our hero avoided a bad beat by folding to a villain that raised him on flop with nothing & hit runner runner nut flush. If we believe the after the fact reveal, which I do not. Why does our villain need any cards at all if we fold to continued aggression? In other news; villain has 44, but not 22 in his range. Can anyone solve that riddle for me?
I mean the reason to fold is because hero arrives at river with better hands (that he could call with). Those better hands might be literally stronger like sets or 2-pair or just like AxAc so he blocks flush. 8 handed you might expect UTG to open 55+ so 44 is still close and worth considering even if not necessarily in range 22 is very loose. Granted yeah once you are giving villain one it is likely wrong to be confident they don't have the other.
@@qazzaqstan Wait, what better are we folding here? KQ? Are you really folding a set here? As to the 44 vs 22 point; are you telling me you think 44 is a better hand than 22?
@@EllieBanks333 my point was precisely that you wouldn’t fold those hands therefore AA no club isn’t anywhere close to a range fold, so villain does need to have cards here. 44 isn’t much stronger than 22 but it definitely is. If I knew 100% 44 was in range I wouldn’t be able to count out 22 also being there but I don’t know why thinking 44 is more likely to be in villain’s prep flop range than 22 is weird
I agree with you. I do not believe villain at all. There is no universe where someone raises on the flop in a 3 bet pot with absolutely nothing and then bets small on the turn after hitting a flush draw. Makes absolutely no sense.
The math alone would say no. Players remember the hands they lose Far More than hands they win. The only hand a really remember from the last time I played that I won a big pot on was because I cracked AA with KK but was all in preflop. But I remember every big pot I lost
@@danielmeuler2877 How does the math say no? You might win more hands with pocket aces, but you definitely can still lose more money than you win, in the long run
That guy lied...not the Hero but the villain. No way he did all that with A9 suited clubs. That's why I don't like asking. If you show you show, but I'm not paying to see and I don't give a fuck what you say after you muck the cards. 😂
I will clearly admit that this caller is a better player than me. However, he is arrogant as hell. His comment stating that he and the villain were the only competent players at the table is insulting. Hopefully, he doesn't show that as an image at the table because some folks will get up and go. You want the players to feel good when you win their money. Making them feel bad won't get them to rebuy. I once was crushing a fellow in a $2-$3 game that had a max buy in of $400. He kept losing and reloading to the point where he had $2,000 in the game. He was making some very bad decisions and I didn't say a word because my stake was up to $1,200 after a $200 buy in. If any of us were arrogant, the fish would have left the pond vs still swim around.
I believe he said it hoping that none of the players that were at his table during this current hand would be watching this stream/video. I agree we should make everyone feel like somebody and be kind.
Most low limit tables only have a couple of really good players and the rest are average or bad players. He would know better than to stay at a table full of tough regs. Also doesn’t mean he projected that to the table
That's one of the beautiful things about the game. Keeps people like him around & contributing to the poker ecosystem when they think they're better than everyone else.
Just got back from a 2 week trip. Games are complete ass Bart. Euros ruining any 5/10+ game. If you are looking to play any bigger than 2/5, don't go. Tourneys are fun but average player is tough at WSOP.
“I knew what I had to do, I just needed a minute to have a funeral for my hand.” I love that. Gonna start calling it that from now on.
Yeah, I've done that on the flop. Funeral sounds right.
The freeze frame is like the Eye of Sauron staring us down until we understand the concepts under discussion. A more friendly Eye of Sauron, but still.
Hahahaha 💀
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I had AA a lot over my weekend at the WSOP. But the one time I decided to fold AA on the river early in the tournament for my life, villain rivered 2 pair with KQ and shoved. It resulted in me getting in to the money and accumulating 6 bounties. Awesome weekend.
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@@hidude1354tell your dad i said hi
Like it. Not sure the advantage of just freezing frame. Love your stuff.
ya why would u do that for youtube 😅
@benneuhaus5602 Makes sense. that is GTO.
I'm at the Wynn rn too, Table 5 seat 3, 5-10, Slim, say hello if you're still here.
Gotta love seeing your frozen face bart 😂
In an LH game, hadn't entered a hand in awhile. Come in as UTG with the raise and get 4 callers plus the sb and bb. I'm holding the red aces and the flop comes 6-7-9 all Spade's bet and a raise to me and those behind me are reaching for chips.....yeah it was a funeral on the flop.
I fold AA routinely, lol. Some players just aren't bluffy enough to continue with pocket rockets facing aggression.
The Rio used to run 1/2 NL and 1/2 PLO in the pavilion room for years
Wise words. the little cal games soften up
At the sign in desk you have to answer test questions from the American citizenship course.
(What’s the capital of Alaska?)
So, I tend to go with strict pot size on my 3bets, but I like bigger sizing 500 BB deep. On the flop I *DO* like range bets, so im gonna go 1/3 pot. When I get raised on the flop, my plan is to simply call 3 streets and let villain bluff off or value-own himself. if he has 44 or 22 then so be it. 44 and 22 should not be opening UTG by the best players, but if the game doesn’t have enough 3-bets and 4 bets preflop, then 44 and 22 can be good raises and I would expect a good player to know that… I guess I would have to know the player to know if he is going to overplay KQ here, and if he is apt to not 4-bet AK. Also, will this type of player go nuts with A5s or A3s in a spot like this? True we block those combos hard…
Still my plan is to call off to keep his bluffs in…
On the turn I don’t love the Q♣️ like caller said. We’re now behind the value-own KQ. Which I think the villain will have more than just 3 combos of KQs, but we have 8 outs against it. And his bluffs are still in including small suited aces. And his value-own AK is still in. I call.
River T♣️yuck. So now if villain bets big we have to ask: would he go for a big value bet with 44 now that AJs has come in for Broadway ? I think with all these high clubs on board, villain can expect hero doesn’t have a flush unless we have A♣️x♣️-but of course we will have those combos. Tough to know. Because if not--then He pretty much only has Ax♣️♣️ himself or a bluff. I don’t think KQ is value betting this river…
So he does go large. With A♣️ I’m always calling the river. Without the A♣️ it’s way tougher. Maybe randomize to 1/3 call and 2/3 fold? Put 2 red chips in your hand and 1 green, call if the green comes out…
Idunno if I believe A9♣️♣️ that doesn’t have either a gutterball or a pair on the flop…
I tend to believe A9. It’s harder to come up with a lie days later. If he wanted a credible lie he probably would have said a flopped set.
If you r going to do this freeze frame.. its better to show the hands being played in a tabke layout
Best ventriloquist ever
raise on K42r is wild when you have AA
I’m on the turn right now, I feel like he has A5 or A3 of clubs gonna keep watching
Villain is a fish. Calling a large 3bet preflop with A9 and raising the flop. If hero thinks he’s a profit player, that says a lot about the table. Hero’s line was good. What is villain going to do when a non-club turns? If villain has a clue he’s not raising KQ on flop. Ak, A5, A3 and sets.
I don't think anyone did anything wrong except UTG should have bet $750 on the river for crying call. Nowadays it seems like people call on the flop for back doors, we all do that sometimes. There's so many tournaments, cash games don't really run until 6pm like at Wynn and Aria. I've never seen so many Asians playing poker in LV. I think it's Husker effect. Asians play cash like tournament, Euros are aggro, Canadians in between, Americans more by the book. Imo
Weird hand choice by villain if true as there just doesn't seem to be enough going.
Explain euro pro vs any other pro
European style is considered very loose & aggressive - don't know specifically why.
Us euros just play better 😂
In what way
@@weepal4444 fixed ur post
us euro lags just have bigger swings
Why is a “for profit reg” raising this flop with A9cc?
Another caller who thinks in absolutes, after playing with a villain for just a few hours. Caller says: “Opponent would 4-bet all combos of KK preflop.” And “opponent would never raise the flop with AK”. How the heck would you know this after playing with a guy for the first time. It’s better to think of these spots in terms of percentages, or by assigning less combos of a certain hand; but never be so confident to think you know 100% what another player is doing.
What’s a grindy reg 17:40
@@pot_kivach160forgot to mention grinding there teeth
Sounds like someone who opts for easier spots because they grind for a lot of hours.
Just throwing it out...just after you said you were about to mess with the graphic....it held a stillshot of your face until the end
I had pocket A's in the small blind with the button straddle at a 1/3 table. Button raised to 25. I raised to 85. Big blind and button call
Flop comes: 7,2,3 rainbow.
BB checks, button bets 125. *I fold*. BB goes all in for 700 effective.
Button folds face up 2,3. BB shows pocket 7's.
U check folded the flop to one bet?
Fold seems purely awful. Also why did you 3bet so small?
You get one of the safest boards and you fold to one bet, button raises with trash, hits a disguised two pair on a safe board, and also folds. At a 1/3 table. You guys are either too good for that game or must’ve had some tell on BB. Either way poker is dead if people are folding those hands in 1/3
@@guillermoalvarez9400 We call 1/3 no-fold-em-hold-em. Shocked that anyone who plays that game in a casino can fold AA hahaha
Great zen like fold by both yourself and the button! You two should definitely take your hand-reading skills to higher levels and definitely move WAY up in stakes that's amazing! I'm never folding AA or two- pair to one bet in that spot so thanks for sharing
Sounds like a very intelligent and competent young man. Tables with open seats should be fearful. May you run hot Graham
A3 Clubs
Chapter One: Preflop
I can 100% tell you that there is no way he has A9 of clubs 😂😂😂 . AK and KJ are the only 2 bluffs . Everything else gets there
A9 of clubs is a flush and AK/KJ arent turning top pair into a bluff here lol.
@@jacobgoldman5780 I said there is no way he has A9 on the flop and AK or KJ are the only 2 bluffs that make sense
@@rppoker8541 again AK, KJ arent bluffing on the flop if they decide to raise. Also A9 of clubs is the BS they were talking about.
@@jacobgoldman5780 again as I said there is no way A9 clubs and at that point yes KJ is a bluff and AK is trying to get the same hand to fold. If you need anything else please feel free
@@rppoker8541people bluff 3 bet pots with back doors even when they shouldn't.
I don’t believe A9 of clubs. Classic post river bluff. If he makes up that story, I think it’s very likely you got bluffed. He picks 9 of clubs because it’s unlikely you held the 9 yourself and can catch him lying. And you probably call river when you have the A of clubs.
I don’t think nut flush makes much sense here for a thinking reg that is raising back doors on flop. He should know enough to size turn correctly if he picks up his flush draw equity. When we reach turn with 665 in the middle and 2175 behind as villain, we have to size turn to jam river. Betting like 550 (leaving 1600ish behind with 1700 to 1800 in the pot) seems automatic for a strong player. When he instead takes this half pot sizing, I think it’s weighted toward complete bs that’s trying to fold out your flop floats. And then he got a river where he felt he could change his mind and get you off a real hand.
Wait is the caller sitting at a table talking to Bart? Isn't that annoying to the other people?
“Me and the only other competent player”
“Idk what the SPR is super deep pretty fuckin high like 4 or 5 …”
SPR = 1.8/1.3 …… fasho bruh
Turn SPR definitely not 1.8 lol
@@grahamplayscards who said it was
3:09 in .... Odds are this is a bad beat story, he should fold preflop
Old school poker player Iceman mustve joined the stream. Cause Bart got froze.
bro got frozen
I guess our hero avoided a bad beat by folding to a villain that raised him on flop with nothing & hit runner runner nut flush. If we believe the after the fact reveal, which I do not. Why does our villain need any cards at all if we fold to continued aggression?
In other news; villain has 44, but not 22 in his range. Can anyone solve that riddle for me?
He has a lot more combos that beat you than don't
I mean the reason to fold is because hero arrives at river with better hands (that he could call with). Those better hands might be literally stronger like sets or 2-pair or just like AxAc so he blocks flush.
8 handed you might expect UTG to open 55+ so 44 is still close and worth considering even if not necessarily in range 22 is very loose. Granted yeah once you are giving villain one it is likely wrong to be confident they don't have the other.
@@qazzaqstan Wait, what better are we folding here? KQ? Are you really folding a set here?
As to the 44 vs 22 point; are you telling me you think 44 is a better hand than 22?
@@EllieBanks333 my point was precisely that you wouldn’t fold those hands therefore AA no club isn’t anywhere close to a range fold, so villain does need to have cards here.
44 isn’t much stronger than 22 but it definitely is. If I knew 100% 44 was in range I wouldn’t be able to count out 22 also being there but I don’t know why thinking 44 is more likely to be in villain’s prep flop range than 22 is weird
I agree with you. I do not believe villain at all. There is no universe where someone raises on the flop in a 3 bet pot with absolutely nothing and then bets small on the turn after hitting a flush draw. Makes absolutely no sense.
He didn’t have A-9 clubs
Euro 😂😂
Im gonna go out on a limb and say most players have lost more money with pocket aces then they have won.
The math alone would say no. Players remember the hands they lose Far More than hands they win. The only hand a really remember from the last time I played that I won a big pot on was because I cracked AA with KK but was all in preflop. But I remember every big pot I lost
@@danielmeuler2877 How does the math say no? You might win more hands with pocket aces, but you definitely can still lose more money than you win, in the long run
The average Trumper strikes again 😂
LGB!
bart i love the content but why in the world would you keep everything else the same and just freeze yourself for the youtube video 🤣🤣
That guy lied...not the Hero but the villain. No way he did all that with A9 suited clubs. That's why I don't like asking. If you show you show, but I'm not paying to see and I don't give a fuck what you say after you muck the cards. 😂
I will clearly admit that this caller is a better player than me. However, he is arrogant as hell. His comment stating that he and the villain were the only competent players at the table is insulting. Hopefully, he doesn't show that as an image at the table because some folks will get up and go. You want the players to feel good when you win their money. Making them feel bad won't get them to rebuy.
I once was crushing a fellow in a $2-$3 game that had a max buy in of $400. He kept losing and reloading to the point where he had $2,000 in the game. He was making some very bad decisions and I didn't say a word because my stake was up to $1,200 after a $200 buy in. If any of us were arrogant, the fish would have left the pond vs still swim around.
I believe he said it hoping that none of the players that were at his table during this current hand would be watching this stream/video. I agree we should make everyone feel like somebody and be kind.
Most low limit tables only have a couple of really good players and the rest are average or bad players. He would know better than to stay at a table full of tough regs. Also doesn’t mean he projected that to the table
This guy felt so arrgoant while calling was a painful listen
aw ur gonna hurt my feelings 😢
Yeah every poker term in the book. Really cringe. No way you can label players “bad” that easily. Thats a recipe for ego, tilt and losing
@@Connordh10he’s practiced alot for that call
That's one of the beautiful things about the game. Keeps people like him around & contributing to the poker ecosystem when they think they're better than everyone else.
Totally agree…definitely an arrogant know it all type.
Just got back from a 2 week trip. Games are complete ass Bart. Euros ruining any 5/10+ game. If you are looking to play any bigger than 2/5, don't go. Tourneys are fun but average player is tough at WSOP.
Haha calls other players bad and bets half+ pot on K42r lol
Dunning Kruger is real.
"Fold face up" no sympathy at all.