I agree, and I'm mad I didn't try that configuration when I made this video, but I didn't listen back until everything was done, so I missed it. I'm liking that cheap condenser on my kick drum lately, so that's another option. Thanks for watching!
Great video thanks for doing this! It was surprising how good the last configuration sounded with just the h6 and the condenser attachment, it sounded the best to me out of all setups and only 1 mic!
+jonnylaris - I agree! That setup would work well in a lot of situations. I loose the rack tom a little bit, but it's still usable. Thanks for watching.
Very interesting. I use a similar little Tascam with X/Y mics and boost the bass drum in the DAW later on. I place it just over and behind my right shoulder and it hears what I hear. No cables!
That’s a great setup for practice feedback. I used something similar early on with my channel, then I moved to the multi mic setup. Thanks for watching!
+Henri Tremolo - Thanks for watching! I like the room mic in that particular room. In a big auditorium it can be a bit too much, but turning it down some solves that.
You are very welcome and I'm glad I could help. I don't think you can go wrong with Zoom products. I too saw all the unboxing videos and was frustrated with a lack of sound samples. Have fun with yours.
Great stuff man!! Your kit sounds great!! I have a question though or more of a request. Is there anyone you could show us how you tune your snare drum? I love the sound of it!
+chris recinos - Thanks, I appreciate the kind words! I can certainly do a snare drum video. I'm planning on getting the steel snare that goes with this kit, so I think I will do an all Yamaha snare video with maple, birch, copper, and steel. It may be a couple of months before I get to it though.
+Buck A - You are welcome and thanks for watching! I love the H6 so far. If you have an h4n and need the extra inputs, it's worth the money. If you do not need the inputs, the h4n sounds just as good to my ears.
+Buck A - It is worth the money over the h4n in my opinion. The 2 extra inputs are great and the input control with physical knobs is a huge bonus. Thanks for watching!
Awesome video! Thanks for this, right now i have a zoom h4n, nady dm70 and 80 pack and an sm58. Not ideal, but using what i have rn and this helped alot, def will buy an sm57 and 52 next
hey man, congratulations, i so happy with this work that you did. You commented every features e resources about this recorder zoom. I'm thinking about buy one of these. Can you release the multitrack that your recorded in this video? precisely the Shure on kick, on snare and h4n as overhead (7:30) and the shure on kick, on snare, mxl on room and h6 as overhead (8:40) i would be so grateful, i would want make a test of mix before buy it
I really appreciate the support and thanks for the comment. The original tracks for this video were on a hard drive that failed on me over the summer and are not recoverable. So sorry, I was sick when it happened, but I have the final videos so at least that's in tact.
Thank you for the video. I like the way you recorded your drums. I want to try it in the same way. In my opinion the snare sounds a little bit to dry? Maybe it comes from the mic position? Just bought a H6, Sm57 and the beta 52 :-). I'm looking forward to try so many configurations. Best regards from Germany
Thanks for watching and for the kind words. I'm glad I helped your decision. I do like a dry snare when I record, but I usually let it ring when playing live. I'm starting to appreciate all kinds of different snare sounds the older I get. I have heard from a bunch of German drummers lately and am glad to have you guys watching.
Thanks for the video! I bought the h6 to record my drums. I record with the xy, bass drum mic, and snare drum mic. But I have a problem. i want the tracks to be combined on the finale recording, but instead i get three different tracks. What can i do?
Very useful- thanks so much! I'm going to use my Zoom H6 for overheads after watching this, and SM57's for toms and snare. I have a U47 that is supposed to be great for a kick, but I'm curious if the Shure mic is better for the job!
Thanks for watching and for the kind words. To be totally honest, I don't think the Shure Beta52 alone sounds that good on my recordings. It's awesome live when using a nice system with a bunch of power to the subs, but when recording (with a Zoom anyway), it's got a nice low end punch, but there's no body to the sound. It's really thin. Whenever I have enough channels, I always use a cheap MXL large condenser on the front head and then put the 52 inside the drum. That combo gives me a great sound. I would start off with the U47 (I don't have personal experience with it, but almost all big condensers sound good on a kick) and see if you like it alone. If not, then you can add a Shure 52, an AKG D112, or an Audix D6 and get the same kind of sound. Good luck!
OK, so just to recap-- in your experience, would you RECOMMEND the Zoom H6 for overheads? Or would you go with 2 SM57's? I've heard that SM57's are just mediocre for overheads. I'm willing to invest some money, but I'm wondering if I can get away with what I have. Again- 57's for snare and toms, the u47 for kick, and the Zoom for overheads. I have a great Gefell M930 that would be nice to sit outside the kick like you mentioned- to get some punch and a bit of room. Also, would you recommend using a mic for the hi-hat? If there's a lot of action of the hat, I could definitely see the use for it.
If you are just recording without a band present, then I would recommend the H6. It sounds great and it also functions as your recorder. If you use separate mics as overheads, you'll need either a dedicated recorder or an interface to use them with a computer. The SM57s are just mediocre for overhead recording, but being dynamic mics, they won't pick up so much of the stage volume if you are playing with a live band. If you want to get separate overhead mics, I would look at a pair of condenser overheads like the Shure PG81, SM81, or the Rode M5s. With those, you can use just one on the hihats and maybe one on the ride if you don't need them to also pick up the toms when using overheads. In that situation, you'll need a separate recorder or interface for a computer.
Great video - thanks! Now i finally decided to use h4n instead of the 6th one: somehow it (H4) makes the whole drumset sound as a single instrument. H6 seems to fructure it into multiple pieces beyond your control, when you adjust the sound in a sequencer. Thanks again.
Thanks for watching! I like the H6 because you can use it without the external mics and get the same effect you are talking about, or you can use other mics when needed. Take care!
When uploading the recording from the SD card to mac or pc, do the recorded tracks come up as separate recorded tracks ? i.e. On the h4n for example would there be a track of the snare recording on it's own ? then a separate one for the kick and 2 overhead mics, or does it all come up as one recorded track?. I want to be able to add different EQ settings to the kick and snare, that is all. helpful video though :)
All of the tracks are saved separately. The overhead is usually one stereo pair, but they can be set to record on separate tracks. The XLR inputs are mono, but any 2 adjacent ones can be set to be a stereo pair. You can certainly process all of them separately. Thanks for watching!
Have fun. It's worth every penny. I have a big 8 channel hard disk recorder that I never even bother using because the H6 is so easy and quick to set up.
Fantastic video.. Thank you so much!! Extremely helpful. I was curious, when using the Zoom H6 XY mic (as both/either the overhead and/or room mic), were the XY mics set to 90* degrees or 120* degrees? I watched the video a couple times, and couldn't find anything about this in either the video or the comments section, so if you have in fact already answered this question, I apologize in advance for the redundancy!
I actually did not manually center the side stereo track. That is straight from the recorder. I'm guessing that it's so close to the snare that it is not much louder on the right side than the left. If you wanted to totally center it, you could separate the stereo track into 2 mono tracks, then half the volume of each one and they would both be spread equally across the right and left sides.
Thank you for this. Your audio and video is very good. I know this was from 7 years ago, but I have questions regarding your video vs. audio recording. Are you just recording without sound on the video and doing an overlay of the audio? If so, what video editing software are you using? Are you only mixing through the H4N/H6 or using a mixer between these and the PC and/or MacBook? Would you suggest for a small, beginner recording to go with the H4N even still?
Thanks for watching! That’s it exactly…I throw away all the camera audio and combine the recorded parts with the video later using Adobe Premiere Elements. It’s a nice cheap program that isn’t hard to learn. I mix all of my audio tracks using Adobe Audition. I still think the H6 is great for drumset recording and the extra tracks are worth it over the H4n. I have been using the Zoom R20 lately, which I like better but you need to then buy good overhead mics.
+Rhythm Boo - I'm guessing that people search for product names a lot more than they do for covers of songs. I probably get some hits from non-drummers on those videos.
Hey! I really like your videos, great job. I'm fairly new to all the drumming and recording malarky, I have the most basic set up with a guitar hero mic and audacity for recording covers atm. I recently bough a zoom h5 ( might also invest in a h4 or h6), and i'm looking at saving up for the shure sm57 and shure beta 52a, do you think I could make alright covers with just those three, using the h5 as an interface as well. any advice would be appreciated.
I'm not sure why I didn't see your comment and respond earlier, so sorry. Most of my covers are done with exactly that - Beta 52, SM57, and a Zoom product as the overhead. You can definitely get away with this combination for RUclips quality covers. Good luck!
Not bad at all, especially the snare. The toms need some tuning, or at least some compression (some funky stuff on the FT). I'm impressed with the cymbal sound
hi. i just bought a zoom h4n and im interested in knowing in some of your settings 1) was your rec format on wav 44.1/16? 2) how much was the mic level for the XY mics and the input mics? 3) what was specific limiter/compression settings? 4) what effects did u add when editting the audio?
Thanks for watching. I'll answer as best as I can, it's been a while and I didn't record my settings unfortunately. 1) All of my recordings are wav 48/16. 2) The XY level varies depending on the size of the room, but typically I'm between 2.5 and 3.5. I aim for -6 to -4 dB on the meter for my loudest sounds. 3) I do not use the limiter or compressor on the H6. I do that processing in Adobe Audition. I usually limit to around -3 dB to take the very top off the loudest sounds, then I normalize to 97%. 4) There are no effects added in this video. Sometimes I EQ the snare and kick mics, but not on this one. No reverb or anything else added. I hope that helps. Take care!
+Redeye Percussion awesome! thank u so much for the reply. but i have more qns hahaha 5) so you switched on the limiter for the h4n... which settings did u choose? did u choose COMP3(DRUM)? And did u switch on the limiter for the input mics as well? 6) for the mics that u connected to the H4N, what was the mic level for each of the mics? 7) referring to the h4n, do u think lo cut is necessary for recording drums? if u did switch it on, which frequency did u choose for the built in mics & the input mics?
No problem! 5) I think you misread my previous answer, I do not use the limiter or any other on-board effects on the H6. I've been taught that you should not mess with the dry signal while you are recording, so I do everything afterwards in Adobe Audition. ' 6) I don't remember the exact settings for each mic, but those are tied to the room and the specific drums I'm using. What I do is watch the input meter while playing the drum and try to get the loudest hit to fall between -4 and -6 dB. 7) Same answer as #5. I would not use the low cut on the H6. You can always EQ that low stuff out later if you want to, but if you cut it while recording and need it back, you will be out of luck. I hope these answers help. Thanks for watching!
Can you explain what settings you have for each mike in terms of compression limit and recording level? I have my recording level down very very low and compression on in my snare drum with an SM 57 is still clipping a little bit
+Brendan Donnelly - On the h4n, the input is very, very hot. I usually had my snare channel set below 1 actually, around 0.8. I think my overheads were usually around 20, and the kick around 4. It's been a while since I've used my h4n. The H6 has a 20 dB pad, so with that on, I set it around 4/10 on the snare channel. It all depends on how hard you are playing and how loud the snare is. Since you can meter the input without actually hitting record, you should adjust the input volume until your loudest hit falls around -4 dB. I never record with any compression on. I actually didn't know you could record with compression on these units. I think it's better to record without any processing, then adjust anything you need to afterwards in your audio editing software. Thanks for watching!
I am using the mic stand adapter that comes with it and just a generic microphone stand. That’s the only way I can get it high enough to use like overheads.
I am syncing up the audio later in my image editing software, Adobe Premiere Elements. The GoPro audio is not all that good and mine gets out of sync on 2 of my 4 cameras. Thanks for watching!
hey guys, could someone explain to me how i would record audio and video from my zoom q4, as well as a bass drum mic at the same time please.. would i need a mixer, also how do i edit the bass drum track to fit with the other audio/video track? Thanks for any help!
+pete phillips - The Zoom Q4 doesn't have any XLR inputs, so I don't think you can add a bass drum mic. The Q8 is what you are looking for, which has 2 inputs for mics. If you use the external input on the Q4, it probably turns off the stereo mic pair that is attached. If you use a Q8 or either of the 2 audio only recorders I have, the tracks will line up and you only need to adjust the volume. Good luck!
+Reiden Ogden - I have tried using the onboard mics on the GoPro cameras, but they are not of acceptable quality for music based videos. They work okay for a live gig if that's all you have, but they are really poor compared to a dedicated audio recorder. You have given me a good idea for another video, however. I'll compare a Zoom recorder, GoPro using it's own audio, and an iPhone so people can see just how different they are. Thanks!
Was able to get great results with the H6 recording my drums during live shows. Love this method.
What a great sound! so much better as you go on!
Very helpful. Thank you. Had the H4n Pro for several years, thinking about upgrading to the H6.
sheskimusic You’re welcome. The H6 is great and I can get enough mics on it for my entire kit.
Great video! Informative and useful. The best I've ever seen. Thx for making it!
The midside sounded surprisingly good, with the exception of the kick, so midside plus 52 could be amazing. Thanks for the video, very very useful.
I agree, and I'm mad I didn't try that configuration when I made this video, but I didn't listen back until everything was done, so I missed it. I'm liking that cheap condenser on my kick drum lately, so that's another option. Thanks for watching!
Great video thanks for doing this! It was surprising how good the last configuration sounded with just the h6 and the condenser attachment, it sounded the best to me out of all setups and only 1 mic!
+jonnylaris - I agree! That setup would work well in a lot of situations. I loose the rack tom a little bit, but it's still usable. Thanks for watching.
Great job Shane! Love the reviews. Keep it up!
+Brooke Smith - I shall. They are more popular than my other vids, so I'll throw them in whenever it makes sense.
Very interesting. I use a similar little Tascam with X/Y mics and boost the bass drum in the DAW later on. I place it just over and behind my right shoulder and it hears what I hear. No cables!
That’s a great setup for practice feedback. I used something similar early on with my channel, then I moved to the multi mic setup. Thanks for watching!
thank's for making a video about this zoom devices. it helped me very much!
+שקד יעקב Shaked yaakov - Thanks for watching! I am glad to have helped.
great work, thanks! The room mic gives a nice touch, as expected.
+Henri Tremolo - Thanks for watching! I like the room mic in that particular room. In a big auditorium it can be a bit too much, but turning it down some solves that.
Thank you so much. This totally made me buy one not an hour ago. Again, thank you for taking the time to NOT just show me how to open the damn box.
You are very welcome and I'm glad I could help. I don't think you can go wrong with Zoom products. I too saw all the unboxing videos and was frustrated with a lack of sound samples. Have fun with yours.
Thanks for watching.
Excellent video. Thanks
This is a great video Shane! You should put what time each mic set is in the desc :) I will be using the H4N, kick and snare my self soon !
Great stuff man!! Your kit sounds great!! I have a question though or more of a request. Is there anyone you could show us how you tune your snare drum? I love the sound of it!
+chris recinos - Thanks, I appreciate the kind words! I can certainly do a snare drum video. I'm planning on getting the steel snare that goes with this kit, so I think I will do an all Yamaha snare video with maple, birch, copper, and steel. It may be a couple of months before I get to it though.
Good stuff! Thank you for making this review. I've been mulling over buying the H6...
+Buck A - You are welcome and thanks for watching! I love the H6 so far. If you have an h4n and need the extra inputs, it's worth the money. If you do not need the inputs, the h4n sounds just as good to my ears.
+Buck A - It is worth the money over the h4n in my opinion. The 2 extra inputs are great and the input control with physical knobs is a huge bonus. Thanks for watching!
Awesome video! Thanks for this, right now i have a zoom h4n, nady dm70 and 80 pack and an sm58. Not ideal, but using what i have rn and this helped alot, def will buy an sm57 and 52 next
thanks for making this video!
hey man, congratulations, i so happy with this work that you did. You commented every features e resources about this recorder zoom. I'm thinking about buy one of these. Can you release the multitrack that your recorded in this video? precisely the Shure on kick, on snare and h4n as overhead (7:30) and the shure on kick, on snare, mxl on room and h6 as overhead (8:40)
i would be so grateful, i would want make a test of mix before buy it
I really appreciate the support and thanks for the comment. The original tracks for this video were on a hard drive that failed on me over the summer and are not recoverable. So sorry, I was sick when it happened, but I have the final videos so at least that's in tact.
Thank you for the video. I like the way you recorded your drums. I want to try it in the same way.
In my opinion the snare sounds a little bit to dry? Maybe it comes from the mic position?
Just bought a H6, Sm57 and the beta 52 :-). I'm looking forward to try so many configurations.
Best regards from Germany
Thanks for watching and for the kind words. I'm glad I helped your decision. I do like a dry snare when I record, but I usually let it ring when playing live. I'm starting to appreciate all kinds of different snare sounds the older I get. I have heard from a bunch of German drummers lately and am glad to have you guys watching.
Perfect review! thanks so much
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video! I bought the h6 to record my drums. I record with the xy, bass drum mic, and snare drum mic.
But I have a problem. i want the tracks to be combined on the finale recording, but instead i get three different tracks. What can i do?
I think you can’t. Seriously talking, generally you do want it to be three different tracks because of mix control.
Nice I am about to buy the H6 so you are giving me good limit on what I can do,thanks
Very useful- thanks so much! I'm going to use my Zoom H6 for overheads after watching this, and SM57's for toms and snare. I have a U47 that is supposed to be great for a kick, but I'm curious if the Shure mic is better for the job!
Thanks for watching and for the kind words. To be totally honest, I don't think the Shure Beta52 alone sounds that good on my recordings. It's awesome live when using a nice system with a bunch of power to the subs, but when recording (with a Zoom anyway), it's got a nice low end punch, but there's no body to the sound. It's really thin. Whenever I have enough channels, I always use a cheap MXL large condenser on the front head and then put the 52 inside the drum. That combo gives me a great sound. I would start off with the U47 (I don't have personal experience with it, but almost all big condensers sound good on a kick) and see if you like it alone. If not, then you can add a Shure 52, an AKG D112, or an Audix D6 and get the same kind of sound. Good luck!
OK, so just to recap-- in your experience, would you RECOMMEND the Zoom H6 for overheads? Or would you go with 2 SM57's? I've heard that SM57's are just mediocre for overheads. I'm willing to invest some money, but I'm wondering if I can get away with what I have. Again- 57's for snare and toms, the u47 for kick, and the Zoom for overheads. I have a great Gefell M930 that would be nice to sit outside the kick like you mentioned- to get some punch and a bit of room. Also, would you recommend using a mic for the hi-hat? If there's a lot of action of the hat, I could definitely see the use for it.
If you are just recording without a band present, then I would recommend the H6. It sounds great and it also functions as your recorder. If you use separate mics as overheads, you'll need either a dedicated recorder or an interface to use them with a computer. The SM57s are just mediocre for overhead recording, but being dynamic mics, they won't pick up so much of the stage volume if you are playing with a live band. If you want to get separate overhead mics, I would look at a pair of condenser overheads like the Shure PG81, SM81, or the Rode M5s. With those, you can use just one on the hihats and maybe one on the ride if you don't need them to also pick up the toms when using overheads. In that situation, you'll need a separate recorder or interface for a computer.
Great video - thanks! Now i finally decided to use h4n instead of the 6th one: somehow it (H4) makes the whole drumset sound as a single instrument. H6 seems to fructure it into multiple pieces beyond your control, when you adjust the sound in a sequencer. Thanks again.
Thanks for watching! I like the H6 because you can use it without the external mics and get the same effect you are talking about, or you can use other mics when needed. Take care!
When uploading the recording from the SD card to mac or pc, do the recorded tracks come up as separate recorded tracks ? i.e. On the h4n for example would there be a track of the snare recording on it's own ? then a separate one for the kick and 2 overhead mics, or does it all come up as one recorded track?. I want to be able to add different EQ settings to the kick and snare, that is all. helpful video though :)
All of the tracks are saved separately. The overhead is usually one stereo pair, but they can be set to record on separate tracks. The XLR inputs are mono, but any 2 adjacent ones can be set to be a stereo pair. You can certainly process all of them separately. Thanks for watching!
+Redeye Percussion great! Will be buying one then :) thanks for your help!
Have fun. It's worth every penny. I have a big 8 channel hard disk recorder that I never even bother using because the H6 is so easy and quick to set up.
Great vid. I enjoy your content. Articulate concise and methodical. Keep em comin
Thanks, that's much appreciated. I will keep them coming for the foreseeable future.
This was what I looking for!
Thanks for your time!
You are very welcome. Thanks for watching!
Can you use only the h6 or 4n for recording drums for a demo or an album?
Very informative
+hokey dokey - Thanks. That was my intention.
+hokey dokey - Thanks!
Fantastic video.. Thank you so much!! Extremely helpful. I was curious, when using the Zoom H6 XY mic (as both/either the overhead and/or room mic), were the XY mics set to 90* degrees or 120* degrees?
I watched the video a couple times, and couldn't find anything about this in either the video or the comments section, so if you have in fact already answered this question, I apologize in advance for the redundancy!
Nicholas Sloan please rotate single capsules to change the angle
I always use the H6 in 120 degree mode. Thanks for the kind words!
Great Video, a lot of Info here!!
+Gabriel .P. - Thanks for watching!
+Gabriel .P. - Thanks! I appreciate it.
The MidSide sounds good to me. How did you center the snare drum sound when you put the mid side mic beside the snare?
I actually did not manually center the side stereo track. That is straight from the recorder. I'm guessing that it's so close to the snare that it is not much louder on the right side than the left. If you wanted to totally center it, you could separate the stereo track into 2 mono tracks, then half the volume of each one and they would both be spread equally across the right and left sides.
good advice, been wanting to make some drum covers and trying to to figure out how to set it up. what editing software do you use?
Thank you for this. Your audio and video is very good. I know this was from 7 years ago, but I have questions regarding your video vs. audio recording. Are you just recording without sound on the video and doing an overlay of the audio? If so, what video editing software are you using? Are you only mixing through the H4N/H6 or using a mixer between these and the PC and/or MacBook? Would you suggest for a small, beginner recording to go with the H4N even still?
Thanks for watching! That’s it exactly…I throw away all the camera audio and combine the recorded parts with the video later using Adobe Premiere Elements. It’s a nice cheap program that isn’t hard to learn. I mix all of my audio tracks using Adobe Audition. I still think the H6 is great for drumset recording and the extra tracks are worth it over the H4n. I have been using the Zoom R20 lately, which I like better but you need to then buy good overhead mics.
Thanks for the review.
+Rhythm Boo - You are welcome! My reviews tend to get way more hits than my covers, so I will be doing as many as I can.
+Redeye Percussion I don't know why that is. I enjoy watching your covers.
+Rhythm Boo - I'm guessing that people search for product names a lot more than they do for covers of songs. I probably get some hits from non-drummers on those videos.
+Redeye Percussion I've found that same thing on my channel. The product related videos get way more views than covers...
+Buck A - I actually not upset about that since we can monitize the product videos and not the covers.
very helpful video man thank you!
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Can I Record play along Just with The zoom recorder???
Great video! Thankyou
What did you have the gain at? I imagine it being hard to adjust with it over your head like that
I don’t recall exactly, but very low. Probably around 2. It took a few tries to get it correct.
Great review
Exactly what we need to know, thanks !!!
Thanks for watching! I'm glad this helped out.
Hey! I really like your videos, great job. I'm fairly new to all the drumming and recording malarky, I have the most basic set up with a guitar hero mic and audacity for recording covers atm. I recently bough a zoom h5 ( might also invest in a h4 or h6), and i'm looking at saving up for the shure sm57 and shure beta 52a, do you think I could make alright covers with just those three, using the h5 as an interface as well. any advice would be appreciated.
I'm not sure why I didn't see your comment and respond earlier, so sorry. Most of my covers are done with exactly that - Beta 52, SM57, and a Zoom product as the overhead. You can definitely get away with this combination for RUclips quality covers. Good luck!
Can the H4n monitor the 1/8" stereo input while recording and monitoring all 4 channels?
yes, but in 4ch mode each xlr input is on the different channel in monitor - in that case you will hear snare only in one headphone
Not bad at all, especially the snare. The toms need some tuning, or at least some compression (some funky stuff on the FT). I'm impressed with the cymbal sound
Thanks! Very helpful!
hi. i just bought a zoom h4n and im interested in knowing in some of your settings
1) was your rec format on wav 44.1/16?
2) how much was the mic level for the XY mics and the input mics?
3) what was specific limiter/compression settings?
4) what effects did u add when editting the audio?
* 3) what was your limiter settings
Thanks for watching. I'll answer as best as I can, it's been a while and I didn't record my settings unfortunately.
1) All of my recordings are wav 48/16.
2) The XY level varies depending on the size of the room, but typically I'm between 2.5 and 3.5. I aim for -6 to -4 dB on the meter for my loudest sounds.
3) I do not use the limiter or compressor on the H6. I do that processing in Adobe Audition. I usually limit to around -3 dB to take the very top off the loudest sounds, then I normalize to 97%.
4) There are no effects added in this video. Sometimes I EQ the snare and kick mics, but not on this one. No reverb or anything else added.
I hope that helps. Take care!
+Redeye Percussion awesome! thank u so much for the reply. but i have more qns hahaha
5) so you switched on the limiter for the h4n... which settings did u choose? did u choose COMP3(DRUM)? And did u switch on the limiter for the input mics as well?
6) for the mics that u connected to the H4N, what was the mic level for each of the mics?
7) referring to the h4n, do u think lo cut is necessary for recording drums? if u did switch it on, which frequency did u choose for the built in mics & the input mics?
No problem!
5) I think you misread my previous answer, I do not use the limiter or any other on-board effects on the H6. I've been taught that you should not mess with the dry signal while you are recording, so I do everything afterwards in Adobe Audition.
'
6) I don't remember the exact settings for each mic, but those are tied to the room and the specific drums I'm using. What I do is watch the input meter while playing the drum and try to get the loudest hit to fall between -4 and -6 dB.
7) Same answer as #5. I would not use the low cut on the H6. You can always EQ that low stuff out later if you want to, but if you cut it while recording and need it back, you will be out of luck.
I hope these answers help. Thanks for watching!
Can you explain what settings you have for each mike in terms of compression limit and recording level? I have my recording level down very very low and compression on in my snare drum with an SM 57 is still clipping a little bit
+Brendan Donnelly - On the h4n, the input is very, very hot. I usually had my snare channel set below 1 actually, around 0.8. I think my overheads were usually around 20, and the kick around 4. It's been a while since I've used my h4n. The H6 has a 20 dB pad, so with that on, I set it around 4/10 on the snare channel. It all depends on how hard you are playing and how loud the snare is. Since you can meter the input without actually hitting record, you should adjust the input volume until your loudest hit falls around -4 dB. I never record with any compression on. I actually didn't know you could record with compression on these units. I think it's better to record without any processing, then adjust anything you need to afterwards in your audio editing software. Thanks for watching!
+Redeye Percussion thanks!
Shure beta 52 kick is passive mic, right?
what stand are you using for the zoom please ??
I am using the mic stand adapter that comes with it and just a generic microphone stand. That’s the only way I can get it high enough to use like overheads.
@@RedeyePerc wow mine absolutely didn't come with an adapter.
nice vid, how are you getting the audio into the gopro? are you coming straight out of the zoom or are you syncing it up later on the computer?
I am syncing up the audio later in my image editing software, Adobe Premiere Elements. The GoPro audio is not all that good and mine gets out of sync on 2 of my 4 cameras. Thanks for watching!
very useful video !
Thanks! Hopefully it helps.
hey guys, could someone explain to me how i would record audio and video from my zoom q4, as well as a bass drum mic at the same time please.. would i need a mixer, also how do i edit the bass drum track to fit with the other audio/video track? Thanks for any help!
+pete phillips - The Zoom Q4 doesn't have any XLR inputs, so I don't think you can add a bass drum mic. The Q8 is what you are looking for, which has 2 inputs for mics. If you use the external input on the Q4, it probably turns off the stereo mic pair that is attached. If you use a Q8 or either of the 2 audio only recorders I have, the tracks will line up and you only need to adjust the volume. Good luck!
nice Thanks
You're welcome - thanks for watching.
I would have liked to see the sound without all the mics and just the camera to have a control. Cool video though!
+Reiden Ogden - I have tried using the onboard mics on the GoPro cameras, but they are not of acceptable quality for music based videos. They work okay for a live gig if that's all you have, but they are really poor compared to a dedicated audio recorder. You have given me a good idea for another video, however. I'll compare a Zoom recorder, GoPro using it's own audio, and an iPhone so people can see just how different they are. Thanks!
somehow the H6 sounds better... do they have the same capsule?
Gustavo Elizondo I believe that it’s the same mics in both, but better and quieter preamps in the H6. I’m not positive though. Thanks for watching.
The preamps on the h6 are loads better than the h4 or h5
great video thanks!