The search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence
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- Опубликовано: 14 апр 2014
- How can we know if alien signals are intelligent? What does it mean to be intelligent? This final chapter features Carl Sagan, Phillip Morrison, Kent Cullers (SETI - The search for extraterrestrial intelligence)
Link to paper by Doyle:
web.archive.org/web/200609030...
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Great ending to this topic. I wish lecturers could make this topic as interesting and easy as you did.
Glad you enjoyed this entire series. Stay tuned for an episode on AI. I was inspired to make this channel after years of disappointment with lectures I suffered through.
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There is a problem with this approach, the assumption that an extraterrestrial intelligence will be communicating over electromagnetic waves without using any sort of modulation. This approach works only if the extraterrestrial language directly maps to the em frequencies without any sort of encoding or modulation.
Also encryption
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So if we rule out noise by looking for a nice variation of, well, the (occurrence) frequency of (spectrum) frequencies, how do we rule this out from noise which follows a nice probability distribution curve, but is still truly random?
I assume this has to do with analyzing the sequence of the changing frequencies, but I can't fully relate the two concepts as you have explained them.
Also, how can we be sure that the trend we see on the graph @ 7:13 will be detectable to us? We can clearly see that humans have higher information entropy than dolphins, because it decreases more slowly as entropic order increases. What if an intelligent life is so succinct that their information entropy doesn't decrease fast enough for us to detect it? Is that possible?
Anyway, great series! I really enjoyed it.
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Communicating this To u in a Language foreign to me, through an intricate web network and I hope it finds you well.
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So if alien life is using data compression (probability -> 1) Ziph's law will not be evident in their communications.
Great one. first time i hear about these studies and that SETI relies on them :D
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what's the privated video that comes next in the playlist?
That was just a call out to the Patreon page. (stay tuned for many more videos in the next few months)
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What do you think of those who reject the transmission metaphor? (Luhmann, Baecker and Varela)
can you send me something to read, i'm not familiar?
@@ArtOfTheProblem Ok, I'll send it to your e-mail
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Automatic +1 for Zipf's law.
Have you seen an ExtraTerrestrial? If so, there is no point in saying anything because (1) people will think you are a psycho, maybe even yourself will think so, and (2) you will never be heard from again because of either - the government or the mothership. I say this not from experience (??? not that I can tell you anyway), but from sheer logic. Haha LOL
But can't the redundancy code also be corrupte by noise?? and if so, wouldn't then the probability of having errors due to noise be even higher?
+Fernando Gonzalez did you check out error correction codes? ruclips.net/video/cBBTWcHkVVY/видео.html
I never could figure out why my best friend and I could finish each other's sandwiches so easy
As it's been said, we're simply pattern seeking beings..we all have the same 24, optimize your resources, time and energy, and know that especially timekeepers, we are all servants to time, life, this body at-least for its the only place where we can live.
Doyle and who?
What are the refrences?
I need them.
Than you.
I added a link in the description
Art of the Problem Thanks!
IIRC Shannon and Weaver formulated a basic theoretical machine in their paper that encoded a signal and transmitted it, and the signal plus noise would be received and decoded by a receiver. Insofar as communication with aliens might be concerned, Shannon has no account of how person's encoders and decoders actually develop. This is of little concern to the control engineer like Shannon, who can simply manufacture the right decoders and encoders, but autonomous biological processes are a different story. I know the solution postulated by Mackie has been a sort of negative feedback process of negotiation to adjust ones encoders/decoders, and the results of human/dolphin language studies are corroborated by universal grammar, but it's likely that initial contact will be highly unintelligible to our decoders, and we have reason to suspect that, despite universal grammar, we may never have any notion of alien semantics via the indeterminacy of translation. We may only be able to know IF anyone is talking, but not what they're saying.
Babies utter every possible phoneme at first, and then ‘die’ into their native language, and eliminate the phonemes that specific language does not use. This is why when people learn languages later in life they will carry a distinct accent. Like how asians have trouble pronouncing the letter ‘R’ because that is just a phoneme that isn’t used in asian languages.
If Darwin is correct both Dolphins and Humans share a common ancestor and thus have a similar brain architecture. Unsurprisingly they operate with similar communication patterns. It’s like finding similar behavior between an ARM cpu and an x86 cpu. They have evolved differently from basic VonNumen architecture . An extraterrestrial intelligence would share no common ancestry with humans and dolphins Therefore the underlying assumptions of extraterrestrial communication is flawed.