I so want a 500x500 version...eventually. Building a print farm in the near future and looking at what printers I could use. So far considerations are the obvious X1C, Voron 2.4's and the Rat Rigs are looking like another possibility instead of going with Neptune 4 Max's for the "large" printers.
So as an early bird I can't participate with IDEX giveaway? Since to participate you need to make new reservation. But I already reserved vcore 4 in early bird subscriper deal
Reserved my 500! Couldn't find the IDEX-kit in the reservation, but I'm guessing it could be added later? Please make a video with the 500, I want to see that big beautiful baby in the flesh!
I’ve explained this quite a few times: that’s actually not the case. Hybrid scales Y performance linearly, AWD doesn’t. Also they’re not mutually exclusive, you can do Hybrid AWD if you wanted. Besides that AWD requires pulley syncing, and doesn’t allow for the drop-in upgrades. It’s much more complicated and doesn’t do as much for larger machines as Hybrid does.
With AWD you get more power for both X and Y, but only Y needs more. Also AWD makes more complex transitioning from regular to Idex and you have more bulk on the front
@@miklschmidthow have you implemented it into the software? Some custom plugin? I haven't found a way in the klipper docs to have both the A and B motors defined while having also cartesian y motors. According to the docs, stepper x follows core xy motion and is responsible for the x axis movement, stepper y follows cartesian kinematics and is responsible for y movement
I already built a VCore 500 and was gonna try a voron this time (got a troodon instead out of necessity ) but this new version stole my attention as well. Can't wait to add IDEX and mmu to the 400. Life will be complete after that.
I've built a 300 and 500 vc3, and a v0. I use the 300 all the time, 500 for large parts, and v0 is basically just toolbox decoration at this point. That being said, i will probably go for a 300 hybrid. I would really like to have 300x300x400
@philippschafer180 300 can definitely go faster before artifacts start showing up. I think the hybrid is a very good solution for the larger machines. Mass is obviously an issue, but so is belt length. I run mine relatively slowly compared to most people you see around here. 300 is between 80-200mm/s at 2-20k accel and 500 is 60-150 at 1-8k accel. About 3x normal mk3s speed. My 300 has a hf rapido, and could still go faster with uhf.
As the owner of a fully upgraded Voron V2.4R2, I am very impressed by the design of the V-Core 4! You guys have done a great job addressing the weak points of the V-Core 3 by adding useful new features and quality of life improvements. RatOS looks amazing, as does the IDEX and Hybrid setups. Looking forward to learning more about them!
I'm really curious of the benefits of "hybrid mode" over simply replacing the current motor to a stronger higher performance motor? Seems like the hybrid mode complicates the design quite.
Will it be a toolchanger style multi material or the purge filament type? Either way, even if it is purge, being able to use IDEX with it would be insanely good.
I am so excited for this machine! I had a Qidi Q1 that sucked, I returned it and now i’m going to not cut corners and get me a real machine. Thank you for all the hard work ratrig team!
Will the upgrade kit work for a VCast IDEX to CVORE 4? it has the upgraded 8mm bed which I believe is the V-Core 3 bed? It has an octopus with kipper. Maybe with some additional Steppers? I like what I am hearing about not leaving previous purchasers behind. AS a VCast owner, I feel I have. (Tall Wide IDEX).. so hope to move to a Vcore 4.
Firstly thank you for coming this far for what to me seems like should be an even bigger event. Maybe I just expected even more popularity than the niche I’m getting myself into here. I’m furthermore surprised that you have only 11k subscribers. As a proud American with a small amount of self awareness I do hope you had some choice dirty words for Walmart etc… some of the “idiosyncrasies” we have here are very well deserving of ridicule as I’m sure you know. Thank you for your hard work and that of your colleagues and will be ordering v4 as soon as my name comes up in the wait list. really is starting to look like the open source future that some programmer friends convinced me to keep my eyes on back in ~03. So few still seem to grasp the potential of what you/they are doing. Gonna need a mill too. RATM said “f the g ride I want the machines that are makin em”. Cheers.
Bom trabalho malta. Estou neste momento à procura de uma boa impressor para a empresa onde trabalho, e penso que já sei qual vai ser. Ainda por cima Made in Portugal! 😉
You and I chatted for a bit at Rocky Mountain RepRap Festival and I genuinely think you were one of 3 booths that actually truly interested me there. Hope you’re faring well and jet lag treats you well, I can’t wait to see what you are doing next! 🐀rigs forever!
Bro, I'm soooo proud too see a Portuguese company getting so much love from all around the world. I'd love to get this printer, she's hot as F**k 🤤🤤 Let's goooo 🇵🇹
@@miklschmidt great to know! But what about the toolboard? Isn't it electronics and should not work beyond 70c? And somebody told me in the comments about replacing belts for a higher temperature ones.
Look's very good but curios about IDEX VAOC: 1. The camera for the VAOC will be close to the bed, and enclosed. Most cameras work up to 60 degrees Celsius and I'm interested only in engineering materials, that require 115 degrees bed - how will that work? 2. When released, will the IDEX require reservations? Obviously you won't have enough for all sold V-Cores 4, so how can one reserve upfront an IDEX?
@Ratrig one think I love about bambu is their wiki. Most problems, maintenance, upgrades I can find solutions for with text and video. Will you be offering anything similar?
@@ratrighardware basically what I was getting at is instead of having to scour the internet and RUclips for videos on how to do maintenance and replace parts they are all located in one section of the website/wiki. That's what I think every 3D printing company needs. Because even though I'm familiar with how to do some routine maintenance there's still stuff that I'm learning since I've only been in this hobby for a short time. It really makes it convenient to pop in a search term into the bar, find the video on how and what to do and keep watching it while doing it without having to contact customer service or poll Facebook. I believe the more high quality videos/articles you have doing that the less customer service issues you'll have because people can be their own mechanic.
Given the large footprint of the machine, what would it take to mount the electronics in a slide draw on the bottom of the machine? In other words, add cable management so one can slide and service the electronics from the front?
Ooo now that's an interesting idea. I might actually steal this one from you. Get some drawer slides of course, maybe print brackets to hold them to the extrusions. Might be awfully heavy though. Trouble is there is alot of wires to put into the umbilical and any quick disconnect means you use.
Hm, you'll need some long and thicker cables (voltage drop) and the heat might be an issue! The 500x500 bed heater is 1500w, which is 6,5amps on a 230 volts EU, the 400 is 1000W, so that's 4.4 amps, still no joke
Thanks for showing more detail! I had an order in the cart for the early bird special, but did not complete it in time. Now I have it on the list, wanted to see more before committing
I think IDEX with the heated chamber and all of the other main features of this printer will make it unique. Only issue is why can't they supply side panels? That's a pain point for sure.
Oh man. Awesome. I am so thrilled! I ordered mine during early bird phase and I am so curious and keen to get this machine right to my workbench. Wow. I definitely will go for the hybrid and IDEX version later on. 100%. I think it will be an incredible new experience building this biest and let go wild ;) The new design is incredible cool. I just love it. Well done, RatRig Team.
i recall that having a stationary bed is better like the voron 2.4 since it will have a lower center of gravity and won't vibrate or wobble as much compare to a bed that sitting up high... can someone give their input on this claim?
out of the box no, but you can of course use a duet board and configure it yourself. but then you cant use ratos and the VAOC calibration. i cant recommend that
Im curious about the Beacon change and if it can be applied to the V-Core 3.1 and EVA 3.. Also, we need a RatOS klipperscreen theme for those using touchscreens please :)
All the demo videos have shown the Hybrid and the IDEX system on presumably the 300mm size printer. Are these installable on the 400 and 500mm machines as well? I assume they are?
Nice! Love the video and all the quirks you explained. This would be a nice addition to my mini factory. Would also be my first core xy build from scratch to assemble. Last time I used idex was with 1 of my last workplace was with an ultimaker S3. I was jealous back then hahaha. Might start a new channel with the path of building a new Vcore 4 hybrid then to Idex. Saúde!
I so want a 500x500 version...eventually. Building a print farm in the near future and looking at what printers I could use. So far considerations are the obvious X1C, Voron 2.4's and the Rat Rigs are looking like another possibility instead of going with Neptune 4 Max's for the "large" printers.
Congrats guys !!! VERY solid product !
Thanks Vez! Means a lot!
You guys have smashed this one
Looking forward to taking a look at the docs and build guide. 🎉💚4️⃣
So as an early bird I can't participate with IDEX giveaway? Since to participate you need to make new reservation. But I already reserved vcore 4 in early bird subscriper deal
Early Birds had their own give-away (already happened). Plus, they get to have their machines before anyone else! :)
@@ratrighardware clear, thanks
Reserved my 500! Couldn't find the IDEX-kit in the reservation, but I'm guessing it could be added later? Please make a video with the 500, I want to see that big beautiful baby in the flesh!
Need to safe some money now (less beer) . v-core 4 or the mill. Hopefully both but which one first ?
Why not AWD instead of Hybrid ? It would have improved accelerations even more ? Awesome machine btw
I’ve explained this quite a few times: that’s actually not the case. Hybrid scales Y performance linearly, AWD doesn’t. Also they’re not mutually exclusive, you can do Hybrid AWD if you wanted. Besides that AWD requires pulley syncing, and doesn’t allow for the drop-in upgrades. It’s much more complicated and doesn’t do as much for larger machines as Hybrid does.
With AWD you get more power for both X and Y, but only Y needs more. Also AWD makes more complex transitioning from regular to Idex and you have more bulk on the front
Hm okay, thanks for the explaination.
@@miklschmidthow have you implemented it into the software? Some custom plugin? I haven't found a way in the klipper docs to have both the A and B motors defined while having also cartesian y motors. According to the docs, stepper x follows core xy motion and is responsible for the x axis movement, stepper y follows cartesian kinematics and is responsible for y movement
@@kilianlindlbauer8277 Custom kinematics class, yes.
3:05 you should erase these scene from your commercial.
I can't believe how good this is. I love every bit of your new design. This is going to be my next printer. Thanks for your work.
Such a beautiful piece, well done RatRig 💯
I've been really wanting to build a Voron for a long time, but Ratrig has stolen my heart with this one I think, haha.
I already built a VCore 500 and was gonna try a voron this time (got a troodon instead out of necessity ) but this new version stole my attention as well. Can't wait to add IDEX and mmu to the 400. Life will be complete after that.
Same here, been wanting to build a Voron forever but this will do.
I've built a 300 and 500 vc3, and a v0. I use the 300 all the time, 500 for large parts, and v0 is basically just toolbox decoration at this point. That being said, i will probably go for a 300 hybrid. I would really like to have 300x300x400
@@travistucker7317 Do you notice a difference in speed and acceleration on the 500 mm version compared to the 300 mm?
@philippschafer180 300 can definitely go faster before artifacts start showing up. I think the hybrid is a very good solution for the larger machines. Mass is obviously an issue, but so is belt length. I run mine relatively slowly compared to most people you see around here. 300 is between 80-200mm/s at 2-20k accel and 500 is 60-150 at 1-8k accel. About 3x normal mk3s speed. My 300 has a hf rapido, and could still go faster with uhf.
As the owner of a fully upgraded Voron V2.4R2, I am very impressed by the design of the V-Core 4! You guys have done a great job addressing the weak points of the V-Core 3 by adding useful new features and quality of life improvements. RatOS looks amazing, as does the IDEX and Hybrid setups. Looking forward to learning more about them!
I'm in the midst of building my Voron 2.4 R2 by Siboor. Can I ask what do you mean by fully upgraded?
I'm really curious of the benefits of "hybrid mode" over simply replacing the current motor to a stronger higher performance motor?
Seems like the hybrid mode complicates the design quite.
Watching this new video makes one point very clear ........ I WANT ONE !!!!
Stoked to see some homegrown innovation! Keep up the good work guys.
Awesome videos and awesome V-Core 4 - can’t wait. My personal highlight so far this year 👍
Will it be a toolchanger style multi material or the purge filament type? Either way, even if it is purge, being able to use IDEX with it would be insanely good.
It was great seeing y'all in Colorado! You convinced me to get V-Core 4 instead of Voron Clone.
I am so excited for this machine! I had a Qidi Q1 that sucked, I returned it and now i’m going to not cut corners and get me a real machine. Thank you for all the hard work ratrig team!
I got qidi Ifast I really like it but it’s to slow I am hoping that VC4 will be much faster when putting down CF-PA12 with mods of course
Will the upgrade kit work for a VCast IDEX to CVORE 4? it has the upgraded 8mm bed which I believe is the V-Core 3 bed? It has an octopus with kipper. Maybe with some additional Steppers?
I like what I am hearing about not leaving previous purchasers behind. AS a VCast owner, I feel I have. (Tall Wide IDEX).. so hope to move to a Vcore 4.
Love it! Already ordered, with the early bird email but will the IDEX require early reservations or will it be widely available?
It will be offered as an upgrade kit at a later time.
This looks amazing! I see that it will have an IDEX upgrade in the future. Any thoughts on 3/ 3+ tool heads?
Idex I’ll sell my lulzbotpro gmax and type a series 1 to run just this 1 printer. I always need dissolvable filament as support
Firstly thank you for coming this far for what to me seems like should be an even bigger event. Maybe I just expected even more popularity than the niche I’m getting myself into here. I’m furthermore surprised that you have only 11k subscribers. As a proud American with a small amount of self awareness I do hope you had some choice dirty words for Walmart etc… some of the “idiosyncrasies” we have here are very well deserving of ridicule as I’m sure you know. Thank you for your hard work and that of your colleagues and will be ordering v4 as soon as my name comes up in the wait list. really is starting to look like the open source future that some programmer friends convinced me to keep my eyes on back in ~03. So few still seem to grasp the potential of what you/they are doing. Gonna need a mill too. RATM said “f the g ride I want the machines that are makin em”. Cheers.
Bom trabalho malta. Estou neste momento à procura de uma boa impressor para a empresa onde trabalho, e penso que já sei qual vai ser.
Ainda por cima Made in Portugal! 😉
You should really be using a camera without a rolling shutter. It just looks wonky and cheap to see the movement shear the image
Hybrid Y is super cool and ingenious!
You and I chatted for a bit at Rocky Mountain RepRap Festival and I genuinely think you were one of 3 booths that actually truly interested me there. Hope you’re faring well and jet lag treats you well, I can’t wait to see what you are doing next! 🐀rigs forever!
If only my wallet would allow me to buy this. I would get it instantly if I could
Can't wait for this thing to arrive. So excited 🎉
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Thinking for a while about getting into diy printers. I think this thing hooked me
Deal. I was going to buy another Bambu or Voron 2.4, but you sold me on this. 💖
Great looking printer. Look forward to seeing more, and seeing what others builds and thoughts on them.
Bro, I'm soooo proud too see a Portuguese company getting so much love from all around the world.
I'd love to get this printer, she's hot as F**k 🤤🤤
Let's goooo 🇵🇹
How high the heater run? What needs to be replaced to run it at like 100c?
Nothing needs to be replaced. Heater is rated for 149C long term operation. Comes with a 157 degree thermal fuse.
@@miklschmidt great to know!
But what about the toolboard? Isn't it electronics and should not work beyond 70c?
And somebody told me in the comments about replacing belts for a higher temperature ones.
Look's very good but curios about IDEX VAOC:
1. The camera for the VAOC will be close to the bed, and enclosed. Most cameras work up to 60 degrees Celsius and I'm interested only in engineering materials, that require 115 degrees bed - how will that work?
2. When released, will the IDEX require reservations? Obviously you won't have enough for all sold V-Cores 4, so how can one reserve upfront an IDEX?
I can answer number 1: it's separate from the bed and it's actively cooled :)
@@miklschmidt Oh, that's perfect! Thank you!
@@miklschmidt Thank you, Mikkel! Was hoping for an answer to the question! A fan of what ya'll have done, so far!
So great!
I really want an idex model! Such a great production option. Excited for this for sure.
two days for episode 5?
Tellement impatient de pouvoir utiliser cette machine 🎉
when can we download rates 2.1, Literally about to rebuild/upgrade my vcore 3.1 tomorrow
@Ratrig one think I love about bambu is their wiki. Most problems, maintenance, upgrades I can find solutions for with text and video. Will you be offering anything similar?
Our wiki is at docs.ratrig.com, any feedback is welcome!
@@ratrighardware basically what I was getting at is instead of having to scour the internet and RUclips for videos on how to do maintenance and replace parts they are all located in one section of the website/wiki. That's what I think every 3D printing company needs. Because even though I'm familiar with how to do some routine maintenance there's still stuff that I'm learning since I've only been in this hobby for a short time. It really makes it convenient to pop in a search term into the bar, find the video on how and what to do and keep watching it while doing it without having to contact customer service or poll Facebook. I believe the more high quality videos/articles you have doing that the less customer service issues you'll have because people can be their own mechanic.
What kinematics do you use for idex? Markforged?
its hybrid corexy kinematic
I wonder when idex will be released
Given the large footprint of the machine, what would it take to mount the electronics in a slide draw on the bottom of the machine? In other words, add cable management so one can slide and service the electronics from the front?
Ooo now that's an interesting idea. I might actually steal this one from you. Get some drawer slides of course, maybe print brackets to hold them to the extrusions. Might be awfully heavy though. Trouble is there is alot of wires to put into the umbilical and any quick disconnect means you use.
Hm, you'll need some long and thicker cables (voltage drop) and the heat might be an issue! The 500x500 bed heater is 1500w, which is 6,5amps on a 230 volts EU, the 400 is 1000W, so that's 4.4 amps, still no joke
This will go well.
Now that's looks like a awesome printer, very exciting. Wonder what shipping will cost to South Africa. Love to get one. Awesome
The hybrid system will also be available on the IDEX model, (2 ADDITIONAL MOTORS FOR Y AXIS)?
IDEX and MMU... mother of god! What's next, IDEX belt or IDEX MMU belt printer with G10-belt? Would blow the industry away
💚🖤💚 IDEX IDEX IDEX 💚🖤💚
Thanks for showing more detail! I had an order in the cart for the early bird special, but did not complete it in time. Now I have it on the list, wanted to see more before committing
Be careful posting anything about guns if you want to return to RMRRF in the future. I've been hearing some stories...
REALLY Interested
I think IDEX with the heated chamber and all of the other main features of this printer will make it unique. Only issue is why can't they supply side panels? That's a pain point for sure.
What are the differences between "CoreXY Full Kit v1.0" and "Configurable Kit"?
Oh man. Awesome. I am so thrilled! I ordered mine during early bird phase and I am so curious and keen to get this machine right to my workbench. Wow. I definitely will go for the hybrid and IDEX version later on. 100%. I think it will be an incredible new experience building this biest and let go wild ;) The new design is incredible cool. I just love it. Well done, RatRig Team.
cant wait to mod the vc500 for IDEX, even if i loose 100mm of bed
i recall that having a stationary bed is better like the voron 2.4 since it will have a lower center of gravity and won't vibrate or wobble as much compare to a bed that sitting up high... can someone give their input on this claim?
Next printer
Is the Ratrig V-Core 4 available pre-assembled? If so, what is the cost?
Will it have duet 3 compatibility?
out of the box no, but you can of course use a duet board and configure it yourself. but then you cant use ratos and the VAOC calibration. i cant recommend that
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Why is the build plate so much smaller than the frame. Their is lot of wasted space.
Now I want to reprint my v-core 3.1 enc parts with black and green.
Have you Guys received a confirmation E-Mail for the reservation?
Would make for the coolest bday present I've ever gotten. May 5th.
this is the way to go! Outstanding, congratulations to this amazing product!
paid the invoice this morning. Super stoked for this.
Incredible!!! You are amazing and unstoppable!!
Wondeful, grat machine!
Very cool, i am locking forward to see what the costs are.
Im curious about the Beacon change and if it can be applied to the V-Core 3.1 and EVA 3.. Also, we need a RatOS klipperscreen theme for those using touchscreens please :)
Beacon contact is applicable for all beacon revisions regardless of what printer it is installed
All the demo videos have shown the Hybrid and the IDEX system on presumably the 300mm size printer. Are these installable on the 400 and 500mm machines as well? I assume they are?
You betcha! :)
Any way to order via AliExpress?
Any plans on a mmu system for multicolor and so on?
Yes! Mentioned in the video.
@@ratrighardware sorry didn't have time to watch it all the way yesterday. Thanks for the answer!
Yippie - Reservation done ☺ Time to release the beast. 😀
Looks fantastic, love this rat tv series as well!
Will there be an IDEX registration?
Hi. Is IDEX model compatible with the feature MMU? Thx.
yes
What a beast❤ I wanna build the idex one👍👌
Does the toolhead have support for cpap?
This is so cool , wow a another nice 3d Printer
Will the BOM and Build Notes be uploaded as well like the previous versions?
BOM is already published on Docs page!
I can't wait for the V-minion 2
Chaosdrucker! 🎉😊
Soo sick, love the new v core 4
Nice! Love the video and all the quirks you explained. This would be a nice addition to my mini factory. Would also be my first core xy build from scratch to assemble. Last time I used idex was with 1 of my last workplace was with an ultimaker S3. I was jealous back then hahaha. Might start a new channel with the path of building a new Vcore 4 hybrid then to Idex. Saúde!
Want 1 so bad. Already have plans to make it duel gantry idex. 4 tool heads.
That would be awesome too! I'll start with idex hahaha then if I feel comfortable I sure will do the same.
Amazing if only. :(
Dream machine for me :D
Any news on the mill? 👀
I want one so bad
thats nice indeed
sweet printer!!
I just want the new 400 bed for my Vcore 3.
Good thing it's backwards compatible then! :)
my next toy!
Yes!!! A full walkthrough!!!
What is the price tho? (the one on the right)
Listed on the reservation page (link in description)!
Amazing !!