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  • @jerrybessetteDIY
    @jerrybessetteDIY 26 дней назад +7

    You have very careful when using highly concentrated acetic acid to avoid acid burns

  • @yourvoicecanbeat
    @yourvoicecanbeat 16 дней назад +1

    Just an fyi, I found a mustard blend “Mighty Mustard” that creates natural glyphosate. Currently attempting it to take back my yard.

  • @irenelasalle3078
    @irenelasalle3078 27 дней назад +5

    Thank you for your all your info. On another matter of pest control I wonder what your thoughts are about kaolin clay to spray on plants? I believe the brand name is Surround. Would appreciate your input. Thank you.

    • @Gardenfundamentals1
      @Gardenfundamentals1  26 дней назад +1

      Have not researched it, or used it. What I have read indicates it can work for some things.

  • @constantinehatzis2807
    @constantinehatzis2807 26 дней назад +10

    More weeds = more compost.

    • @GARDENER42
      @GARDENER42 26 дней назад +2

      Less weeds = less competition for nutrients & less need for compost.
      Of course I gratefully receive all the weed donations from other plot holders who let them grow in abundance & then have to clear them...

    • @joemachine4714
      @joemachine4714 26 дней назад +1

      But in nature there are weeds and the other plants thrive. This tells me it must be a net benefit

    • @GARDENER42
      @GARDENER42 26 дней назад

      @@joemachine4714 They're all in competition with each other.

    • @shawnsg
      @shawnsg 25 дней назад

      @@joemachine4714 tell that to trees covered with kudzu.

    • @ThePoehladian
      @ThePoehladian 24 дня назад

      It's not the weeds, it's the weed seeds. I'm still battling milk weeds in my raised bed from accidentally introducing seeds.

  • @kyyurtman1416
    @kyyurtman1416 26 дней назад +13

    My major concern with all these products is not necessarily the chemistry of the product within , but more along the line of how the hell do you successfully navigate the label for application rates for less than an acre and that's after you succeed in peeling back that ridiculous peel here corner without tearing the entire thing in half.

    • @ASpinnerASpinner
      @ASpinnerASpinner 26 дней назад +1

      I have never had a problems with any of the issues you proposed, be it with Roundup or any other consumer-grade herbicide. I suspect another underlying problem on your end.

    • @shawnsg
      @shawnsg 26 дней назад +1

      Lol that and when you find directions for use it's just another 12 paragraphs of warnings.

    • @ASpinnerASpinner
      @ASpinnerASpinner 25 дней назад

      @@shawnsg You can thank lawyers and 50% of the population having under 80 IQ for that. Companies have extensive warning because they are forced to by the legal system.

  • @lindaannb
    @lindaannb 27 дней назад +11

    Thank you for continuing to bring scientific information to gardeners. It’s important to read the labels on everything we use and to understand what the ingredients are.

    • @GermanSausagesAreTheWurst
      @GermanSausagesAreTheWurst 22 дня назад

      There is a saying, "the label is the law."

    • @mgfons
      @mgfons 21 день назад

      Please note that Roundup doesn't list all of the ingredients on their product labels. They only list the active ingredients, and then simply say something like "Other Ingredients: 90%"

    • @GermanSausagesAreTheWurst
      @GermanSausagesAreTheWurst 20 дней назад

      @@mgfons Don't get me wrong, I hate Monsanto as much as you do, but deceptive arguments do more harm than good.
      They don't list the inert ingredients because it is not required to list inert ingredients because they are inert. The word "inert" means inert.

  • @IronRangeGreens
    @IronRangeGreens 26 дней назад +10

    Cannabis testing and analytics routinely demonstrates that pesticide manufactures have large amounts of cross contamination within pesticide products. Choose your product manufacturer wisely.

    • @GARDENER42
      @GARDENER42 26 дней назад +2

      Please cite your source.

    • @popeyegordon
      @popeyegordon 26 дней назад +1

      No proof? Never happened.

    • @popeyegordon
      @popeyegordon 26 дней назад

      @@b-boycastertroy Fool!! I'm an atheist and Zen philosopher! I believe peer reviewed science ONLY.

    • @popeyegordon
      @popeyegordon 26 дней назад

      @@b-boycastertroy Not in significant amounts. Chemist's ability to detect vastly diluted amounts has exceeded all reason. Consumers don't understand parts per billion/ parts per trillion. EWG abuses this consumer ignorance all the time with faked/invalid studies.

    • @Gardenfundamentals1
      @Gardenfundamentals1  24 дня назад +1

      That is very unlikely.

  • @seattleareatom
    @seattleareatom 27 дней назад +2

    I've found 30% at a big box store and 45%, 47% and 75% vinegar online.

  • @cbak1819
    @cbak1819 26 дней назад +5

    😮White vinegar, salt and liquid soap and a nice hot dry day, sprayed on leaves is all I use a few times in mid spring...

  • @josedacosta5197
    @josedacosta5197 6 дней назад

    The use of urine direct in the soil can be bad for the microbes in the soil? And in the composting bin?
    I will probably post the same question in you other video, every now and then I watch a video from your channel but today I decided to subscribe

  • @MelodyHopkins
    @MelodyHopkins 26 дней назад

    I am trying to find something to kill zoysia grass in my shrub beds. Trying to pull it just prunes it and causes it to run more. The roots grow so deep, my four inch steel border doesn't even begin to stop it. Do you have any suggestions. I have some 45% vinegar on order but I'm thinking that it might not kill the roots.

    • @ASpinnerASpinner
      @ASpinnerASpinner 26 дней назад

      Zoysia grass spreads by above-ground stems called stolons and underground stems called rhizomes. It is highly unlikely that even strong horticultural vinegar will kill it permanently. Just google "best herbicide to kill Zoysia" and you will get your answers through research. Never rely on just people on youtube. That's an expensive way to kill weeds. You will not only want to research the best herbicides for it, but the best plan of action as it will likely take multiple applications over 2-3 years applied at the right times over those years.

  • @erikswartzendruber8629
    @erikswartzendruber8629 27 дней назад +23

    It's my understanding the toxicity studies show short term toxicity. What about long term exposure? I also have no faith in the EPA when they allow companies like Monsanto to ghost write the EVA'S reports.

    • @Gardenfundamentals1
      @Gardenfundamentals1  26 дней назад +9

      True, toxicity measures short term effect. After 50 years and hundreds of independent studies - no problems found for long term effects either.

    • @dougbas3980
      @dougbas3980 26 дней назад +7

      @@Gardenfundamentals1 That is very much proof of safety. People also seem unaware that about 80% of grains have been GMO for 20+ years with no sign of problems. The increase in crop yields due to GMO weed control feeds billions of people at a reduced cost. We need to balance plus and minus affects. I am an engineer and that was my job and I think I did that well. To do that you need critical thinking, probability analysis, logic, and actual data. Most people do not learn that in school anymore ... that is sad.

    • @_stay_chill
      @_stay_chill 26 дней назад +6

      Let me know what bridges you designed so I know to stay off of them.

    • @NoNORADon911
      @NoNORADon911 26 дней назад +3

      Christie Whitman of the EPA said the air at ground zero was safe so they could open up quicker, thousands got the big C.

    • @popeyegordon
      @popeyegordon 26 дней назад

      There is no ghost writing, that is a conspiracy theory distortion of the way the FDA handles all documentation. All such reports give full disclosure of where data comes from.

  • @Jules-740
    @Jules-740 26 дней назад +8

    The old ways are better in my opinion. Buying from trusted small farms who you personally know and skip the labels.

    • @popeyegordon
      @popeyegordon 26 дней назад +1

      Norman Borlaug quote: "There are 6.6 billion people on the planet today. With organic farming we could only feed 4 billion of them. Which two billion would volunteer to die?"

  • @lksf9820
    @lksf9820 27 дней назад +3

    Glyphosate is banned in mainland Europe, not in the UK. Thanks for the enlightening video, liked and subscribed!

    • @jeffyorama
      @jeffyorama 26 дней назад +1

      No it isn't.

    • @ASpinnerASpinner
      @ASpinnerASpinner 26 дней назад

      No EU country has a blanket ban on glyphosate but some, like , have restrictions prohibiting its use in certain areas or by households.
      Also, UK is not and never was a European country.

    • @GARDENER42
      @GARDENER42 26 дней назад +1

      @@ASpinnerASpinner The UK most definitely IS a European country & always has been, just like Iceland, Malta, Sicily, Sardinia...

    • @whoknowsumightfind4736
      @whoknowsumightfind4736 26 дней назад

      Indeed, it is not banned in the EU. Too much corruption and lobbying happening at EU commission level. Roundup is causing havoc by affecting wildlife and contaminating ourselves ..and weeds are becoming resistant ...

  • @petergraves9006
    @petergraves9006 27 дней назад

    There was no video link where you pointed and you didn’t mention what is the right round up to get an answer after all that info would be nice 👍

    • @Gardenfundamentals1
      @Gardenfundamentals1  26 дней назад +3

      1) the video links are showing when I play the video.
      ruclips.net/video/8tH7Q945gKU/видео.html
      ruclips.net/video/i_tqQTWYJyg/видео.html
      2) I can't make a recommendation because I don't know what is available in your country, or what you are trying to accomplish.

  • @katjoy9921
    @katjoy9921 26 дней назад

    If I remember correctly, Monsanto sold Roundup to Bayer in 2018.

    • @michaeldossett9046
      @michaeldossett9046 26 дней назад +2

      Bayer owns Monsanto. Roundup is not a product - it's a brand. Glyphosate has been off patent now for more than 20 years. Anyone can now manufacture and sell glyphosate, and many companies do and sell it under different names.

  • @racebiketuner
    @racebiketuner 26 дней назад

    Thanks for letting us know.

  • @zendog48
    @zendog48 26 дней назад +13

    I read recently that glypgosate is turning up in women's breast milk in the US these days. This can't be a good thing.

    • @reneedevry4361
      @reneedevry4361 25 дней назад +4

      Good thing nobody is testing breast milk for all the other much worse weed killers with long scientic names🙄

    • @Gardenfundamentals1
      @Gardenfundamentals1  24 дня назад +3

      But unless you know the amount it means nothing.
      www.gardenmyths.com/unnatural-fear-roundup-understanding-small-numbers/

    • @partidaportet27
      @partidaportet27 11 дней назад

      So roundup is safe and effective like the recent medical intervention? Take the money out of the choice and we may find.out what the truth is..this video is as.much a nonsense as those openly.criticising roundup..
      I will.err with caution and a continue not using it..i will continue to weed with my hands and hoe. Real organics not compromised. Roundup makers are always telling people it's safer than xyz

  • @judymckerrow6720
    @judymckerrow6720 27 дней назад +11

    Thank you Mr. P. I’ve always used traditional roundup, but with care. Just me but I think if you use any product correctly it’s safe. Do I roll around in roundup after I spray it of course not but reading and following directions to me are only common sense. 💐💚🙃

  • @TheRexona1986
    @TheRexona1986 26 дней назад +1

    Mr. Robert, do you use Roundup thia year?

    • @marklundeberg7006
      @marklundeberg7006 26 дней назад +1

      He is not allowed to use glyphosate as it is illegal in Ontario for residential use.

    • @TheRexona1986
      @TheRexona1986 26 дней назад

      @@marklundeberg7006 Why is not illegal?

    • @ASpinnerASpinner
      @ASpinnerASpinner 26 дней назад

      @@marklundeberg7006 Rexona didn't ask about glyphosate. If you had watched this video and did a quick google search, you would know that Roundup brand is used to market many different chemicals, glyphosate being only one.

    • @Gardenfundamentals1
      @Gardenfundamentals1  24 дня назад +3

      I use it very sparingly and never spray it. There are some weeds you can't get rid of without it. Bindweed, Canada thistle and my thousands of buckthorn.

  • @weitang1196
    @weitang1196 26 дней назад

    😂its FUNNY story for roundup

  • @generalawareness101
    @generalawareness101 26 дней назад

    for kudzu and posion ivy and some other nasty weeds the only thing I ever found that worked was Glyphosate 27% but tractor supply cease to carry it here and it takes a lot of it with every week dousings then after a month every six weeks. They will come back so it must be used annually, and I am now 4 years from using it since the cough arrived.

    • @teebob21
      @teebob21 26 дней назад

      My TSC carries 41% glyphosate by the gallon jug.

    • @generalawareness101
      @generalawareness101 26 дней назад

      @@teebob21 I never liked the 41% as it killed everything and was more expensive but here the glypho scare happened and TSC removed them. Way cheaper than the name brand.

    • @teebob21
      @teebob21 26 дней назад

      @@generalawareness101 You aren't supposed to use it straight. It's a concentrate.

    • @generalawareness101
      @generalawareness101 26 дней назад

      @@teebob21 I know that, lol. Not even the 27% is straight, although the first treatment I had to as the stuff would not die otherwise (old growth).

    • @jesse4530
      @jesse4530 26 дней назад

      You killed Kudzu with 27% glyphosate? How many applications? I have about 8 acres of kudzu I will be tackling soon. And no, goats are not an option. Lol

  • @bart9409
    @bart9409 26 дней назад +5

    Orgasmic gardening is mostly a religion.

    • @pawwalton2157
      @pawwalton2157 26 дней назад +7

      Sounds like you might be enjoying your gardening a bit too much.

    • @Bons_Eye
      @Bons_Eye 26 дней назад +2

      @@pawwalton2157 🤣

    • @GARDENER42
      @GARDENER42 26 дней назад +1

      @@pawwalton2157 Winning reply. 😂😂

  • @krystynab4591
    @krystynab4591 26 дней назад

    After 3 years of "organic" ways to get rid of weeds i gave up. The weeds that I have problems with are the ones that spread trough roots. I mulch with 7-10 cm of leaves grass and wood chips. I use black tarps, i painstakingly weed out all the roots I can find. And gues what. This year my weeds grow again like i did nothing. To be fair many easier weeds are gone. But the invasive grases and vines have pointy schoots that can go trough matted leaves and tarps, and they can grow underneath the tarp and leaves untill there is a little gap. 5 days ago I used glyfosate. It didnt show on the label which % it is. But guess what - i see almost no effect on my weeds. 😢 they are still lush green and growing as nothing happened...

    • @Bons_Eye
      @Bons_Eye 26 дней назад +1

      I believe it takes some time to work, probably 2 weeks depending on the strength.

    • @brianhollenbeck5281
      @brianhollenbeck5281 26 дней назад +5

      Reexamine your relationship with weeds.

    • @ASpinnerASpinner
      @ASpinnerASpinner 26 дней назад +3

      Glyphosate can take a couple weeks, depending on the weed, to show signs of dying. It works slowly but surely and pretty much relies entirely on photosynthesis to work. Don't make the mistake and spray it with something that kills the foliage faster so you can see results with your eyes, as you will decrease the effectiveness of the glyphosate. Glyphosate needs those leaves in order to fully work.

    • @GARDENER42
      @GARDENER42 26 дней назад +2

      It'll take a couple of weeks before you notice any effect. Often they initially appear to be growing even faster but that's part of what it does to weeds.

  • @DavidMFChapman
    @DavidMFChapman 27 дней назад +8

    But petrochemicals are made from ancient plants…

    • @sunnybizz4857
      @sunnybizz4857 27 дней назад +6

      It's all politics, corporations bending a knee to eco-bullies. I avoid buying anything advertized as organic as much as possible.

    • @dougbas3980
      @dougbas3980 26 дней назад +4

      fertilizing with decomposed dinosaurs. Sounds organic to me 🤔

    • @almolter8108
      @almolter8108 26 дней назад +1

      Not true. Dinosaurs had nothing to do with petroleum.

    • @sunnybizz4857
      @sunnybizz4857 26 дней назад

      @@almolter8108 do you think God created earth with oil already in the ground?

    • @almolter8108
      @almolter8108 26 дней назад

      @@sunnybizz4857 yep it is naturally occuring compound that the earth produces. Rockefeller coined the term "fossil fuels" in the 1900's to depict a finite amount of petroleum. This is incorrect. Fossil remains have been found only to 11000 ft deep. We pull oil out at well over 36,000 ft deep. The earth will keep producing oil.

  • @YouTubecensorsthought
    @YouTubecensorsthought 26 дней назад

    5:49 everyone remember he’s the truth here okay.

  • @markbowman2890
    @markbowman2890 26 дней назад +4

    None of these chemicals can be good for the micro-organisms in the soil. I use five finger weed control.

    • @popeyegordon
      @popeyegordon 26 дней назад +1

      Glyphosate breaks down in soils by microbial action. Your microbes eat it! Try weeding 100+ acres by hand.

    • @markbowman2890
      @markbowman2890 25 дней назад

      @@popeyegordon Organic farmers in my country do control weeds without the use of chemicals. Naturally they don't weed by hand. I have read a number of the scientific papers on this product, both sides of the argument, and some work by researchers who read even more documents than I did. I do not support the use of chemicals and I do not believe that it is a sustainable practice. What you take out has to be put back in with artificial fertilisers. There are some arguing that yields per acre are declining but I am not going to debate that on heresay alone. I have found a way to avoid petrochemical fertilisers and other herbicides in my garden. It works and the food is great; much better than what they sell in supermarkets.

    • @Gardenfundamentals1
      @Gardenfundamentals1  24 дня назад +1

      Actually, glyphosate is a food source for some bacteria - it makes them grow better!

    • @markbowman2890
      @markbowman2890 24 дня назад

      @@Gardenfundamentals1 While I respect your views on this, I am aware that that there is a lot more published work regarding glyphosate than most people know. The issue has been muddied to a great degree, and the truth is always going suffer. I understand how to read and analyse scientific papers, and enough to know that even the peer reviewed ones can be wrong. I think that the responsibility of proving that Glyphosate is safe belongs solely with the company that makes it. Decades ago I was told the myth about its safety, yet no studies ever supported that. I also become suspicious when companies and organisations suppress open debate on these topics. Unfortunately we have to rely upon courtrooms for some form of robust discussion. Even with the supposed benefits of glyphosate, mostly with short term outcomes and weed control, there is no good explanation for the diminishing yields occurring in large scale agriculture. It would appear that soil quality diminishes with the inclusion of synthetic chemicals. Fertiliser masks this because you can still produce a good crop by the amount of chemical you use. Is this sustainable? What I do know is that I have used entirely natural methods to improve the soil in my veggie garden and food trees. The result has been convincing, increased yields and the health of plants. It would take a strong argument to convince me that herbicide and fertiliser combinations are right for the planet.

  • @sophiamountain9966
    @sophiamountain9966 26 дней назад +8

    EPA and FDA won't mislead you. And don't forget the courts. We all know that the judges are fair and are not influenced by politics and big money.

    • @dougbas3980
      @dougbas3980 26 дней назад +4

      REALLY?? 🤔

    • @alexcris5344
      @alexcris5344 26 дней назад +1

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @popeyegordon
      @popeyegordon 26 дней назад +1

      That is correct. No sarcasm. Those two agencies simply agree with the global consensus. GMO and glyphosate 20-year safety endorsement: 280 science institutions, more than 3,000 studies
      "Currently, there is a social and political controversy about the safety of foods produced from genetically modified (GM) crops. However, in the scientific community, there is no dispute or controversy regarding the safety of these crops. To date, more than 3,000 scientific studies [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8] have assessed the safety of these crops in terms of human health and environmental impact. These studies together with several reviews performed on a case-by-case from regulatory agencies around the world have enabled a solid and clear scientific consensus: GM crops have no more risk than those that have been developed by conventional breeding techniques.

      In addition, there is also extensive literature that compiles the socioeconomic and environmental benefits that transgenic crops have reported in two decades of commercialization [9,10].
      This document brings together the public statements of technical and scientific institutions that adhere to this consensus. I made an update based on this document from ChileBio that initially included 40 official documents representing about 190 institutions - the document from ChileBio was subsequently updated in 2017 with the institutions and statements attached here.
      The update shows that 284 technical and scientific institutions recognize the safety of GM crops and their potential benefits. Interestingly a large part of these institutions are located in Europe, the continent that has put more obstacles to the commercialization of these crops. On the other hand, the countries with most organizations in favor of GM crops are United Kingdom (33), United States (25), Italy (23), Spain (16) and Germany (11).
      In conclusion, 284 technical and scientific institutions recognize that GM crops are not riskier than those produced by conventional breeding, and/or the potential benefits of these crops."
      geneticliteracyproject. org/2017/06/19/gmo-20-year-safety-endorsement-280-science-institutions-more-3000-studies/

  • @TimJameson-jg8sl
    @TimJameson-jg8sl 26 дней назад +3

    Hard pass

  • @Not_So_Weird_in_Austin
    @Not_So_Weird_in_Austin 26 дней назад +11

    The Bureaucracy got paid off and Roundup is safe.

    • @joemachine4714
      @joemachine4714 26 дней назад

      It's approved by Fauci
      Must be safe 🫡

    • @popeyegordon
      @popeyegordon 24 дня назад

      The EXACT OPPOSITE is the truth!! Roundup is safe because there is no proof otherwise. [assuming you were not referring to the IARC bribery] All legit peer reviewed studies, and there are many thousands of them, say glyphosate is harmless to everything but weeds.
      Organic farming lobbyists sent a brief case filled with a $160,000 cash bribe to the IARC through a corrupt USRTK lawyer to get them to make up the low cancer risk statement about glyphosate. They made up that claim of a low level cancer risk from glyphosate which was only equal to sunshine, fried potatoes or lunch meat preservatives anyways. No actual testing was done! It was the cornerstone of all 60,000 of these shyster lawyer Roundup lawsuits but now that the IARC has been exposed they are in deep doodoo and have been disowned by their WHO parent agency. Five citations for proof: geneticliteracyproject.org/glp-facts/iarc-international-agency-research-cancer-glyphosate-determination-world-consensus/ www.acsh.org/news/2017/10/24/glyphosate-gate-iarcs-scientific-fraud-12014
      risk-monger.com/2017/10/13/greed-lies-and-glyphosate-the-portier-papers/ www.cameronjenglish.net/single-post/2017/10/22/Episode-18-Exposing-corruption-secrecy-on-IARC-glyphosate-panel-Jon-Entine sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-science-behind-the-roundup-lawsuit/

  • @liammullan2197
    @liammullan2197 26 дней назад +4

    Inevitable angry uninformed comment, hehe. Presumably the reason for not certifying the product if petro-chemicals are used to produce it rather than a fermentation process is because the latter is less damaging to the environment. Not in terms of the final product, which are identical as you say, but our environment as a whole. Perhaps you don't think that damage to the earth's atmosphere should be factored into organic certification? Anyway it may be that the difference in overall environmental cost is not massive, but I guess the line must be drawn somewhere. Just my two-penneth. Love your videos, keep 'em coming.

    • @dougbas3980
      @dougbas3980 26 дней назад

      So what are the numbers? How is the petro process hamful and what quantity and what expense in all regards? Until that is stated, I would just judge on final product basis (ascetic acid is ascetic acid).

    • @GARDENER42
      @GARDENER42 26 дней назад

      Do you have evidence to show that non petro-chemical acetic vinegar production is less damaging than via the use of crude oil?

    • @Gardenfundamentals1
      @Gardenfundamentals1  24 дня назад

      "because the latter is less damaging to the environment. " - that is not the reason. The reason is simply that organic certification organizations have decided that anything they deem as "manufactured" is not allowed. Oh, unless they can't do without it and then they make exceptions.

  • @marklundeberg7006
    @marklundeberg7006 26 дней назад +2

    I feel like the acetic acid roundup is a bit of a scam.. I don't want to recommend roundup for a friend dealing with a vigorous root weed, and have them come back with a bottle of vinegar... 😂

    • @ASpinnerASpinner
      @ASpinnerASpinner 26 дней назад

      Yeah, it's a gimmick product designed to keep sales up in countries where glyphosate and other chemicals are restricted or banned. 20% acetic acid isn't going to permanently kill any weed that is tenacious and aggressive. In fact, it may not even kill it temporarily. For instance, if you'd spray Japanese Knotweed or Campsis Radicans with it, those plants will laugh at you, maniacally lol. I bet even common lawn clover would be like "pshh, whatever".

  • @GARDENER42
    @GARDENER42 26 дней назад +5

    I'm perfectly OK with glyphosate for clearing persistent, perennial weeds.
    The issue with it is misuse, misapplication, poor training & a failure to use basic PPE.
    As for annual weeds; that's what a hoe is for.
    Monsanto's use of the Roundup name is a deliberate ploy to sell less effective products.
    Oh & the original, glyphosate Roundup is widely available here in the UK.

  • @simonpannett8810
    @simonpannett8810 26 дней назад +2

    Just use vinegar!!!

  • @brucejensen3081
    @brucejensen3081 26 дней назад +5

    Cool, so i can put roundup and olive oil on my salad

    • @popeyegordon
      @popeyegordon 26 дней назад +1

      Only a fool jokes about eating or drinking weed killer straight from the container.

    • @brucejensen3081
      @brucejensen3081 25 дней назад

      @@popeyegordon yeah you got to emulsify first. The question is will the oil emulsify with the round-up as well as it would with vinager

    • @popeyegordon
      @popeyegordon 24 дня назад +1

      @@brucejensen3081 I repeat - for the hard of reading - Only a fool jokes about eating or drinking weed killer straight from the container.
      And no, there would be no valid reason to 'emulsify' or to even mention that. Roundup contains surfactants that make it cling better to whatever it is sprayed or poured on.

  • @user-cw1yk5kc5y
    @user-cw1yk5kc5y 26 дней назад +2

    I'll drink a glass of vinegar, you drink a glass of glyphosate

    • @suzukichopper
      @suzukichopper 26 дней назад +4

      I think a more appropriate comparison would be for you to drink a glass of acetic acid, not a 3% dilute solution of vinegar. Good luck with that.

  • @internationalhealingcenter6570
    @internationalhealingcenter6570 24 дня назад +2

    if 2 different formulas then they should have 2 different names to avoid confusion!!!

    • @popeyegordon
      @popeyegordon 21 день назад

      You didn't watch the video - each one has a different name and color for the version of Roundup inside. Every word on a container of weed killer has to be read by the buyer, every time you buy it.

  • @aprilpeace3371
    @aprilpeace3371 26 дней назад

    Regular Round Up found in shots since cows eat grass & cow in them

  • @curiousbystander9193
    @curiousbystander9193 26 дней назад +3

    why is it in kid's cereals?

    • @shawnsg
      @shawnsg 25 дней назад

      Is it a cereal made with crops that would use glyphosate? Seems pretty obvious. What about adult cereal or is it just meant to be an emotional appeal by saying kid's cereal.

    • @curiousbystander9193
      @curiousbystander9193 25 дней назад

      @@shawnsg you get my point, thanks

    • @shawnsg
      @shawnsg 24 дня назад

      @@curiousbystander9193you didn't make a point. You're welcome.

    • @curiousbystander9193
      @curiousbystander9193 24 дня назад

      @@shawnsg smart guy.... I am directly referring to all the special education going on in my town's schools..... yeah, stuff is in the cereal adults push on kids for breakfast. I know what it does to the same adults feeding on the same grains that are in the cereals they push on the kids, as they go get their ibs diagnosis.
      I bet the percentage of breakfast cereal eaten by kids is in the order of 80% of the total boxed cereals consumed.....so yeah, the kid''s cereal.
      sorry you felt I was playing with your emotions. WHat percentage of your local school district teachers are sped teachers? Get that number for me. That might get your emotions going too. Again, I am sorry. The truth hurts sometimes.

    • @curiousbystander9193
      @curiousbystander9193 24 дня назад

      @@shawnsg At this point, it is in all boxed cereals. It is used for harvest desiccation of non gmo crops such as oats, wheat, chick peas, peanuts, and more....
      Apparently you have done little research into how this chemical is in our food.
      Let me guess, you think gluten sensitivity was under diagnosed back in the 70's and 80's?

  • @dac7046
    @dac7046 26 дней назад +3

    Baffles me that Monsanto would double down on a brand so tainted and why would they hopelessly confuse consumers with so many “Roundup” formulations? My default is to solve problems without herbicide but there are a couple particular problems (bindweed and canada thistle) where judicious herbicide use on my 2.5 acre lot is difference between slaving and enjoying my space and I unapologetically use glyphosate and 2,4-D strictly per the labels whenever I see fit!

    • @prudencezappa7851
      @prudencezappa7851 26 дней назад +1

      They said tainted by some but recognized by many.

    • @popeyegordon
      @popeyegordon 26 дней назад

      Monsanto shut down forever over 5 years ago!

  • @CompetentSalesUSA
    @CompetentSalesUSA 26 дней назад +1

    ✅ Glyphosate is still recommended by Washington State University, an agricultural College.

  • @Joe_C.
    @Joe_C. 26 дней назад +3

    Now brought to you by NONsanto 😜

  • @eugeniebreida1583
    @eugeniebreida1583 26 дней назад +2

    Yikes! Keep Monsanto out of my organic veg at grocery stores.

    • @teebob21
      @teebob21 26 дней назад +2

      Monsanto doesn't even exist anymore.

  • @jedadruled984
    @jedadruled984 26 дней назад +2

    Bro, yur crazy
    You dont know what yur talking bout

    • @popeyegordon
      @popeyegordon 21 день назад +1

      Yes he does. Every work he uttered was right there on the labels of the bottles in the video.

    • @jedadruled984
      @jedadruled984 21 день назад

      @@popeyegordon Yo, but he said it himself.

    • @popeyegordon
      @popeyegordon 20 дней назад +1

      @@jedadruled984 He said he is not a chemist and you don't have to be one to read the labels and make a factual video of this kind.

    • @Gardenfundamentals1
      @Gardenfundamentals1  15 дней назад +1

      I am a chemist!

    • @jedadruled984
      @jedadruled984 15 дней назад

      @@Gardenfundamentals1 Yo, but not all chemists are crazy.

  • @dadigitechman
    @dadigitechman 27 дней назад +7

    Round up, enabling lazy gardening since 1974

    • @dougbas3980
      @dougbas3980 26 дней назад +4

      I love lazy gardening if it works.🤣

    • @rohlfing63
      @rohlfing63 26 дней назад +1

      Lazy gardening? Maybe for those folks who "garden" with a half dozen pots or buckets, but those who measure their garden in acres can use a lot of help, including the use of herbicides on occasion.

    • @ASpinnerASpinner
      @ASpinnerASpinner 26 дней назад +1

      @@rohlfing63 Preach it! These vanity "gardeners" and miracle "science" "gardeners" have no clue what real gardening is like!

  • @dand-pb8pg
    @dand-pb8pg 26 дней назад +3

    No thanks.

    • @ASpinnerASpinner
      @ASpinnerASpinner 26 дней назад +1

      Yet, you'll gladly buy 20, 30, 40% horticultural vinegar, which is just acetic acid which is the same thing round up is bottling.

    • @dand-pb8pg
      @dand-pb8pg 26 дней назад

      @@ASpinnerASpinner I worked for Bayer, years ago before they bought that brand. It was a good place to work so I was kinda shocked when they bought it from Monsanto. I worked on a biotechnology drug so I’m not that knowledgeable, but I think the glycophosphate was linked to using GMO seeds. Seems kind of stupid to market acetic acid as roundup. I can’t imagine vinegar is too effective at killing weeds. What on earth are they up to? I have a pretty big garden. I be been trying cover crops like crimson clover and field peas. Farming would be a challenge… I wouldn’t use roundup though. I can’t think acetic acid would even change the pH of the soil? Does it screw up the soil microbes? I guess it can just kill emerging little weeds.

    • @dand-pb8pg
      @dand-pb8pg 26 дней назад

      @@ASpinnerASpinner vinegar shouldn’t harm your soil…or probably your weeds. But it sounds pretty dumb. Crimson clover field peas.

    • @ASpinnerASpinner
      @ASpinnerASpinner 26 дней назад

      @@dand-pb8pg
      High concentrate horticultural vinegar (aka acetic acid) is indeed harmful to soil biology in the average person's hands. But i was
      mocking the dude saying he would never buy this roundup acetic acid when it's no different than other 20, 30, 40% acetic acids sold from other brands/companies, which he will likely buy or eve has bought already lol. This is merely Roundup branded, that's it. It probably is a poor purchase choice since it probably cost a lot more just because it's roundup branded. But to say you'll not buy it "because Roundup is bade, m'kay" is just low IQ brainwashed religious "environmentalist" drivel.

    • @dand-pb8pg
      @dand-pb8pg 26 дней назад

      @@ASpinnerASpinner I just have a big garden with backyard chicken manure as the main input for fertilizer. Originally glyphosate was used with round up ready GMO seeds that could tolerate it. I’m not sure if that’s still a thing (economically viable). So no thanks, I don’t want that in my garden or my compost pile. New round up (acetic acid) …I don’t get it, the rebranding.

  • @firecloud77
    @firecloud77 27 дней назад +3

    Saying that glyphosate causes cancer is like saying water causes drowning.

    • @curiousbystander9193
      @curiousbystander9193 26 дней назад

      so what is causing go tract cancer in younger folks, among other things?

    • @alexcris5344
      @alexcris5344 26 дней назад +1

      Go tell that to all the people trying to fight cancer.

    • @GARDENER42
      @GARDENER42 26 дней назад +1

      @@alexcris5344 You have evidence it was caused by the correct use of glyphosate?
      Please cite your source.

    • @elizabethpiela7389
      @elizabethpiela7389 26 дней назад

      My neighbor's family farm uses glyphosate and has for many years. Both his parents, his wife, and grandchild have all died of cancer.

    • @curiousbystander9193
      @curiousbystander9193 26 дней назад

      @@elizabethpiela7389 common, but unspoken in many farm communities.... hard to convince farmers how much they have been fooled cause it works well... for making health care and psych business too.

  • @partidaportet27
    @partidaportet27 9 дней назад

    This makes no sense. What are the sum total actions of glyphosate versus acietic acid. Mineral chelation or the decomplexing of minerals aside, are there other ways roundup acts to disable plant growth, eg.its impact on the Shikimate pathway
    Hows does acietic roundup differ from full glyphosate here?
    How about the levels of oxidative impacts of either. Reference Pourbaix and the availability of mineral forms based on Redox drivers.
    Certify it if you like, this doesnt make it ok and this video is a little patronising imo and wholly incomplete. Organic certification is entirely compromised by the likes of Apeel and more..this is yet another perversion of the concept.of organic..where in its true form, none of this garbage is needed full stop.
    Organic is not worth the paper its written on these days..Bill Gates and his psycho cronies have obliterated trust in the label organic.
    Weeds happen because of any number of usually addressable conditions..cover these at the core and struggle less. Also while you are there, have a think about why people think its ok to operate at levels beyond the human scale and how this has led to a wide number of societal problems, not least the wide scale use of antibiotics like roundup.
    Just to note, you aren't paid by producers of products you represent, a la doctors in recent years who also pretend to offer advice presented as non conflicting?

  • @whoknowsumightfind4736
    @whoknowsumightfind4736 27 дней назад +12

    And I just unsuscribed too...

    • @jeffyorama
      @jeffyorama 26 дней назад +4

      Bye-bye

    • @dougbas3980
      @dougbas3980 26 дней назад +7

      If you do not say why, then you have said nothing important.

    • @whoknowsumightfind4736
      @whoknowsumightfind4736 26 дней назад +5

      @@dougbas3980 promoting roundup was the straw that broke the camel's back ...

    • @whoknowsumightfind4736
      @whoknowsumightfind4736 26 дней назад +1

      @@jeffyorama keep on enjoying the chemicals :)

    • @effinhaoli808
      @effinhaoli808 26 дней назад

      @@dougbas3980he says to listen before making comments then proceeds to promote this terrible company

  • @geraldhowse8597
    @geraldhowse8597 26 дней назад +4

    Unsubscribed

  • @katjoy9921
    @katjoy9921 26 дней назад +1

    Any Roundup is bad.

    • @popeyegordon
      @popeyegordon 26 дней назад

      False. You can't prove that it is worse than crop damage due to weeds. There are now 750 brands of glyphosate herbicide sold globally.
      Because it is not only good, it is the best because all other types are more toxic. Organic farming lobbyists sent a brief case filled with a $160,000 cash bribe to the IARC through a corrupt USRTK lawyer to get them to make up the low cancer risk statement about glyphosate. They made up that claim of a low level cancer risk from glyphosate which was only equal to sunshine, fried potatoes or lunch meat preservatives anyways. No actual testing was done! It was the cornerstone of all 60,000 of these shyster lawyer Roundup lawsuits but now that the IARC has been exposed they are in deep doodoo and have been disowned by their WHO parent agency. Five citations for proof: geneticliteracyproject.org/glp-facts/iarc-international-agency-research-cancer-glyphosate-determination-world-consensus/ www.acsh.org/news/2017/10/24/glyphosate-gate-iarcs-scientific-fraud-12014
      risk-monger.com/2017/10/13/greed-lies-and-glyphosate-the-portier-papers/ www.cameronjenglish.net/single-post/2017/10/22/Episode-18-Exposing-corruption-secrecy-on-IARC-glyphosate-panel-Jon-Entine sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-science-behind-the-roundup-lawsuit/

  • @321zeno
    @321zeno 26 дней назад +1

    Thanks for the evidence based video but this feels awfully like an 8 minute Roundup advert

  • @lauriaktahi
    @lauriaktahi 27 дней назад +6

    And I just unsubscribed from you.

    • @Napoleon-xp3sm
      @Napoleon-xp3sm 26 дней назад +6

      I doubt he cares, he is set and probably too busy to care. Go watch the View.

    • @kyyurtman1416
      @kyyurtman1416 26 дней назад

      I believe the View has greater toxicity than any round up product.

    • @adrabruzzese7610
      @adrabruzzese7610 26 дней назад

      What the hell does that garbage talk show have to do with someone not agreeing that Glyphosate is safe or a highly toxic substance? ​@@Napoleon-xp3sm

    • @dougbas3980
      @dougbas3980 26 дней назад +5

      your reason? Other wise not important at all.

    • @GARDENER42
      @GARDENER42 26 дней назад +7

      Ah yes; emotions are always superior to empirical evidence...🙄

  • @lauriaktahi
    @lauriaktahi 27 дней назад

    The point about glyphosate is that that was the Main reason monsanto had to GMO Seeds. To withstand glyphosate and still grow. Which opened the door to gmo for all kinds of reasons. Glyphosate was the catalyst to all of the genetic modifying.

    • @Gardenfundamentals1
      @Gardenfundamentals1  26 дней назад +7

      No it wasn't. GMO is about so much more than glyphosate. The technology was not developed for it.
      www.gardenmyths.com/truth-roundup-glyphosate/

    • @dougbas3980
      @dougbas3980 26 дней назад +2

      @@Gardenfundamentals1 Correct. GMO was to allow plants to protect themselves from one thing or another. Some was weed control and others were for insect damage or fungus damage or yield increase or increased nutrician or drought resistance. Basically to make the crop prosper in some way. Hopefully they will always safeguard against bad side affects. In my opinion, they have done well so far.😎

    • @curiousbystander9193
      @curiousbystander9193 26 дней назад

      @@dougbas3980 "Hopefully they will always safeguard against bad side affects. In my opinion, they have done well so far.".... yikes, you missed some stats about the last 25 years.

    • @rohlfing63
      @rohlfing63 26 дней назад +1

      Ummm, development of GMO varieties has been taking place independent of Roundup for decades. Try again.

    • @curiousbystander9193
      @curiousbystander9193 26 дней назад

      @@rohlfing63 gene insertion allowed for vast proliferation of the chemical.... try again.... now it's being used to harvest non gmo crops..... how's your health?

  • @DELLIB-pz2fk
    @DELLIB-pz2fk 26 дней назад

    You sir have deeply disappointed me with this video, as an organic farmer watching these types of videos about gardening almost makes me think you are a sellout to the culture to mega chemical corporations. The scientists paid off by monsanto say glyphosate is safe to drink sir; however ask an insect none will be found yards away from where it is sprayed. I would not use anything labeld roundup even if it was just pure spring water. You sir have completely bombed this gardening channel for me.

    • @shawnsg
      @shawnsg 24 дня назад

      You're making a case for expanding the use of glyphosate since according to you it wards off insects. Imagine how many fewer sprays commercial growers could use if it doubles as an insecticide.

    • @Gardenfundamentals1
      @Gardenfundamentals1  15 дней назад +1

      Too bad - as an organic gardener you should be open to the truth - but clearly you aren't.