Technical Devlog: Implementing Audio into my Game Engine

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2023
  • Devlog video about "Homegrown", a casual farming game I'm creating using my own engine. In preparation for the UI overhaul I'm implementing the audio system into my game engine this week.
    Support the channel on Patreon and get access to the game & code for Homegrown, the city-builder, and Equilinox:
    / thinmatrix
    Play my previous game "Equilinox":
    store.steampowered.com/app/85...
    You can follow the progress of the game on my social media:
    Twitter: / thinmatrix
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    Trello: trello.com/b/W3zkIJTM/farm
    Email: thinmatrix@gmail.com
    Background music by Jamal Green:
    open.spotify.com/artist/50jTM...
    Outro music by Dannek Studio:
    / dannekstudio
    #devlog #Homegrown
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  • @ThinMatrix
    @ThinMatrix  9 месяцев назад +274

    This is a much more technical devlog than usual so if that's not your thing then this one might not be for you (and if it is your thing then yay, enjoy!)
    We'll be back to more visual features next time with the UI makeover.

    • @RubSomeDirtOnIt
      @RubSomeDirtOnIt 9 месяцев назад +7

      I love both! 😄

    • @Ferenc-Racz
      @Ferenc-Racz 9 месяцев назад +13

      I love this kind of content, which is a bit more technical. Congratulation for the huge amount of progress. :)

    • @deadpl55
      @deadpl55 9 месяцев назад +1

      I'm learning game development and i like both or them but this type of content i like most

    • @user-ob5hj5vn8c
      @user-ob5hj5vn8c 9 месяцев назад +6

      I agree, this is the content I like the most actually! :)

    • @artymer5021
      @artymer5021 9 месяцев назад +5

      I actually quite enjoy the more technical content. I find it not only interesting but also very inspiring. I am an aspiring game dev as well so these videos often fuel the muse haha

  • @jprice_
    @jprice_ 9 месяцев назад +860

    Everyone crying over unity while this mad lad just chills with his own engine. Absolute legend.

    • @Duke6598
      @Duke6598 9 месяцев назад +47

      lmao, actually so smart from thinmatrix to do this looking at it retrospectively. Best unintended business decision

    • @faluhub
      @faluhub 9 месяцев назад +13

      You're saying this as if it's not actually a problem that unity's doing this.

    • @pedroduran8927
      @pedroduran8927 9 месяцев назад +32

      1. Unity fixed pricing with a 2.5% revenue cap, becoming cheaper than unreal.
      2. Making an OWN engine consumes time, you have to be VERY GOOD at math / vector programming to just have some level of a simple camera rendering a cube.
      3. Even making an engine that returns an executable application is a real PAIN. now imagine trying to produce multi-platform game on an own engine 💀
      Engines costs money because they save time and resouces. You can always go godot but it has its sharp edges too.

    • @jprice_
      @jprice_ 9 месяцев назад

      @@pedroduran8927 Why even touch godot when king released their own engine for all to use? Both Unity and Godot have a smiliar issue - they are led by a buffoon.

    • @willcollins5121
      @willcollins5121 9 месяцев назад

      @@pedroduran8927ehhh this is built on lwjgl cross-platform isn’t a huge issue here

  • @finalforeach
    @finalforeach 9 месяцев назад +262

    The procedural sound system you made solved a problem I wasn't even aware of! I suspect most game devs will run into that issue at some point. Glad to be following this series.

    • @Zonix_Official
      @Zonix_Official 9 месяцев назад +5

      I'd assume as a by product of this, when it comes to implementing Sound to your Minecraft Recreation that this will majorly help!
      Nice to see you also watching ThinMatrix, FinalForEach! :D

    • @finalforeach
      @finalforeach 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@Zonix_Official I stand on the shoulders of giants! ThinMatrix's videos is how I learned to make good looking water graphics after all.

  • @haydenap
    @haydenap 9 месяцев назад +124

    Man the procedural sound effect thing you did for variable interaction time is so cool. Great solution to that problem.

    • @lukasjost44
      @lukasjost44 9 месяцев назад

      I think this is exactly how it works in Minecraft

  • @raphaelvinh
    @raphaelvinh 9 месяцев назад +82

    Can we talk about how good this transition at 1:26 is ? good work man !

    • @alejorag
      @alejorag 9 месяцев назад +1

      He does it a lot but everytime I see it I still marvel at it lol it just looks so clean

  • @Joshimuz
    @Joshimuz 9 месяцев назад +19

    I appreciate the more technical videos! The procedural sound generation for the arbitrary length actions was super nice!

  • @jamesbaconreid
    @jamesbaconreid 9 месяцев назад +100

    Love the sounds! Especially the procedural ones - that's so cool!

  • @JustATempest
    @JustATempest 9 месяцев назад +29

    For building compound sounds, I would recommend using a builder pattern, as you're effectively building a track. You would create a compound sound with an add track method that takes a track, and returns 'this', allowing you to chain addTrack function calls, that way you don't have a block of variables defined in a row like at 12:35 with incrementing variable names like track0, 1 2 3. You've used the builder pattern with sound 2D builder I think it would work really well with compound sounds. If only to keep consistency of the code. It's still be a good idea. You're using the factory pattern, for the digging sound effect which is a good idea. When you combined with patterns, a new world opens up. Imagine a sound effect factory, that can create the sound effect you need, and using the builder pattern to configure the given sound effect as a compound sound.

  • @szabados1980
    @szabados1980 9 месяцев назад +2

    Actually I prefer this sort of devlog videos to where only the game play features are shown. 👍👍👍

  • @LifeOfMohammed
    @LifeOfMohammed 9 месяцев назад +47

    I love how far you have come with this and like I love how good the videos are getting with all the transitions and all looks so good! Have you got a goal in mind for releasing this game? I also love the out-of-monitor transition so much haha also pretty neat you are using ur own tutorials to remember stuff!

    • @ThinMatrix
      @ThinMatrix  9 месяцев назад +24

      Thanks! I'm currently aiming for end of next year, but that might be a bit optimistic.

    • @LifeOfMohammed
      @LifeOfMohammed 9 месяцев назад

      @@ThinMatrix That is awesome to hear sadly I was abit to eager to try it out so its awesome you uploaded it on Patreon!

    • @Alex-fn7kj
      @Alex-fn7kj 3 месяца назад

      End of next year ?!! But your game and his loop already is so polished, adding new content like plant and tool and farm upgrade okay, but if you leave yourself until end of next year it mean we haven't seen half of the systems and mechanics build implemented yet, right ? 👀

  • @SharkyGamess
    @SharkyGamess 9 месяцев назад +7

    It’s amazing what sound effects and music can do! Brings the game to life 😍 keep it up!

  • @GetaVe
    @GetaVe 9 месяцев назад +1

    Elegant solution and it sounds like it works well. My main suggestion is less harsh sounds like metal and hard rock. And more soft crunchy sounds.

  • @sirynka
    @sirynka 9 месяцев назад +27

    It'd be cool to change the pitch of the sound during the digging or water pouring process so the player would have an intuition on how long the action would take without even looking in the screen.

    • @ThinMatrix
      @ThinMatrix  9 месяцев назад +15

      Nice idea!

    • @madmanmax120
      @madmanmax120 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@ThinMatrix To add onto this, it'd be an awesome bit of polish to have, for instance when harvesting a section of crops, to have the "harvest" sound rise in pitch over subsequent harvests. So basically crop 1/5 will be the lowest pitch, 3/5 being in the middle, then 5/5 being the highest, scaling in pitch depending on the size of that particular group of crops.
      It builds a sense of rising accomplishment when you have an audio source do that, very similar in to how Minecraft does their sfx for breaking blocks. Or y'know, just implement it on a smaller scale and just do it for each individual plant. I think it'd fit right in with your farming game here!

    • @AgentM124
      @AgentM124 9 месяцев назад +3

      And not everything has to follow this system, you could also increase the frequency at which sounds are played to give a sense of speedup.
      That way not every action sounds like a fire alarm.

  • @turnrp
    @turnrp 9 месяцев назад +10

    I love these devlogs

  • @FacemanArt
    @FacemanArt 9 месяцев назад

    Super cool devlog! Loved how you approached the procedural sfx. Keep up the great work!

  • @justred2337
    @justred2337 9 месяцев назад +8

    I love it how you carefully explain everything while also making a game using Java, most people just use Unity and C# to make basic stuff but you made your own engine! Would love to playtest someday, keep up the awesome work!

  • @robvp71
    @robvp71 9 месяцев назад

    Super inspiring and the way you structure your work.. impressive!

  • @Aquillyne
    @Aquillyne 9 месяцев назад +2

    Those procedural sounds are incredible! Bravo.

  • @RubSomeDirtOnIt
    @RubSomeDirtOnIt 9 месяцев назад +4

    Even though the city builder ended up being a bit more than you could chew at the current time, I think the value of that experience is really shining in Home Grown. You consistently use things from Equilinox and the city builder, or take lessons from things that you did for those games (either for what to do or what NOT to do). I definitely think the experience was invaluable.
    Really looking forward to Home Grown!

  • @JoelFunk
    @JoelFunk 9 месяцев назад

    Brilliant work as always. The sounds add so much weight to the game interactions. Good job!❤

  • @ccoodduu
    @ccoodduu 9 месяцев назад

    This devlog was so interesting and useful! It's amazing how much sound does to a game.

  • @wiechciu0
    @wiechciu0 9 месяцев назад +1

    That's impressive how well all of these parts work together. The procedural audio sounds really good, neat idea!

  • @cameronstroebel3333
    @cameronstroebel3333 9 месяцев назад +1

    Very interesting episode, I enjoyed the deep dive :)

  • @kylemason01
    @kylemason01 9 месяцев назад

    Epic stuff bro! Keep up the amazing hard work!

  • @Kwanzol
    @Kwanzol 9 месяцев назад

    really liked this video :) the end result sounds great!

  • @rigolus
    @rigolus 9 месяцев назад

    I very much enjoy those more technical devlogs, do not be afraid to make more like that! :)

  • @CurtisDoesADig
    @CurtisDoesADig 9 месяцев назад

    Dude, the procedural sound system is amazing! That was so awesome to see in action!

  • @AlexScotton-Illizian
    @AlexScotton-Illizian 9 месяцев назад +1

    Congratulations, this really adds a great layer and makes it so much more immersive. The way you've created the procedural sounds is genius and applicable for much more than an audio system.

  • @msajidsarker
    @msajidsarker 9 месяцев назад +1

    You have a brilliant mind, and you are creating the most beautiful little garden simulator to cultivate peace.

  • @AustinCameron
    @AustinCameron 9 месяцев назад +1

    Watching this while writing my own AudioController for an audio book app.

  • @KuroOnehalf
    @KuroOnehalf 9 месяцев назад +1

    Surprisingly interesting dev log. Good stuff!

  • @MrOmega-cz9yo
    @MrOmega-cz9yo 9 месяцев назад

    I like the information presented and the game is looking good!

  • @Skeffles
    @Skeffles 8 месяцев назад

    Brilliant to see how you are tackling sound. My last game had a bunch of issues with sound and I've struggled to find good videos explaining whats going on. This helped

  • @marcruijs1039
    @marcruijs1039 9 месяцев назад +4

    I'm currently working on making my own GUI library. Definitely taking some inspiration from this video 😬 Excited to see what you'll do with the UI!

  • @clonkex
    @clonkex 9 месяцев назад +1

    I love the secateurs sound! So clean and calm.

  • @SylvesterNumski
    @SylvesterNumski 8 месяцев назад

    I just found your RUclips channel. It is great! I love the technical videos too. hope the game development stays smoothly. Keep up the good work!

  • @majicman24
    @majicman24 9 месяцев назад

    The procedural sound system was such a cool solution, loving the videos!

  • @pixboi
    @pixboi 9 месяцев назад

    Dude your home is so peaceful and clean, always admiring that in these videos :D

  • @ramoncf7
    @ramoncf7 9 месяцев назад +2

    Your OpenAL tutorials helped me to add sounds to my game, just for the effort and work it took you to create all those tutorials (and the OpenGL ones) I'm wishing you the best, you're an inspiration for all indie gamedevs! Thank you.

  • @TheHanutaXD
    @TheHanutaXD 9 месяцев назад +1

    I love the idea of the CompoundSound. Very neat :)

  • @ianbryant
    @ianbryant 9 месяцев назад +3

    The procedural sounds are beast my dude.

  • @KingofUshankas
    @KingofUshankas 9 месяцев назад

    love the content thinmatrix!!!

  • @possumkeys
    @possumkeys 9 месяцев назад

    Such an absolute chad! You are a really good programmer sir! Loved the sound thing. Loved it.

  • @hippylp2306
    @hippylp2306 9 месяцев назад

    Hey, really like your videos and the games you produce :) I also really enjoy the details you add to your videos like playing the music in the background the way your are describing it in the code :)

  • @Pruemedia
    @Pruemedia 9 месяцев назад

    Super impressive work! Keep going! :)

  • @coffeefingies
    @coffeefingies 9 месяцев назад

    The way you implemented the compound sound effects is really clever, well done. Might have to borrow that idea in the future!

  • @tobias-edwards
    @tobias-edwards 9 месяцев назад

    Really enjoyed the insight!

  • @gernivisser593
    @gernivisser593 9 месяцев назад

    I love these more technical videos !!

  • @SaadTheGlad
    @SaadTheGlad 9 месяцев назад

    Dude this is literally perfect, I wanted a good way to implement audio into my game and while it's not gonna be as complex as yours I wanna get some inspiration for future titles. Keep it up!

  • @lightludology9081
    @lightludology9081 9 месяцев назад

    This is so inspirational! As a new viewer, I'm absolutely amazed!

  • @SvenGarson
    @SvenGarson 9 месяцев назад

    Oh yes - Great idea layering the sounds - Very satisfying to listen to

  • @marco6ocram
    @marco6ocram 9 месяцев назад

    The procedural sound effects really give a lot of life to the game. Really really good implementation :D

  • @EdwardVarner
    @EdwardVarner 8 месяцев назад

    Your solution to problems is always elegant and inspiring. I didn't expect to enjoy this style of video and I was sad when it ended. Well done!

  • @feathorix8778
    @feathorix8778 9 месяцев назад

    I am quite new to your channel and I just realized that you do not "only" develop a cozy farming game, but that you use a self-made engine, too! That's so cool, much respect! 🙂 Seems like a big benefit in the current situation, hehe.
    I really like the idea of the compound sounds, they give a nice polish to the general sound design and make the tasks feel less repetitive.
    As another comment already mentioned, it could be nice to be able to hear the progress of a task, e.g. by raising the pitch after each tile.
    Very nice devlog! :)

  • @Draconicrose
    @Draconicrose 9 месяцев назад +1

    This is a really cool solution to the sound repetition and definitely adds juice to the game. I am thinking that as the player progresses so will the soundscape of the gameplay loop, which is neat.

  • @HobokerDev
    @HobokerDev 9 месяцев назад

    Gotta say, even those placeholder samples don't sound half bad! Looking forward to the next devlog as usual!

  • @doma3058
    @doma3058 9 месяцев назад +1

    Hey man, I really appreciate you and your videos. I used to dream of being a game developer when I was younger, and your videos were my obsession. That was probably around 2015-16 when i was 11-13 years old! Now I am in college for Cybersecurity and am so happy to start watching your content again! Thanks for sticking around man and I am real proud to see how far you have gotten. :)

  • @kacper2246
    @kacper2246 9 месяцев назад

    i always find it incredibly impressive and admirable when someone creates their own game engine for a game
    love how the game looks, keep it up!

  • @natgazer
    @natgazer 9 месяцев назад

    You inspire me so much! Despite I'm more towards meat and stuff, I'm loving your game development!

  • @bonecircuit9123
    @bonecircuit9123 9 месяцев назад +1

    you can break the song in stems, intro, chorus, bridge and outro and then randomly play the chorus and bridge a few times in variations and cap them off with intro and outro. additional chorus and bridge chunks add to the dynamics

  • @ocleidyreve6361
    @ocleidyreve6361 9 месяцев назад +2

    Uff Amazing video...technical videos also rocks and people like them. Thanks for taking some of our advices!!

  • @lucavogels
    @lucavogels 8 месяцев назад

    Wow! The sound generator idea for the tools was really smart! 😱

  • @isaacgreen9495
    @isaacgreen9495 9 месяцев назад

    That shovel sounds great!

  • @SpikeStudio
    @SpikeStudio 9 месяцев назад +1

    Audio is one of the most underrated parts of a game, so its cool to see a Devlog about it. Great audio will not be noticed, but bad audio is heard by everyone, it seems you got a great start!

  • @j3ns
    @j3ns 9 месяцев назад

    I love these technical devlogs 😀 but I also enjoy the other ones 😊

  • @KrAvE4KaRnAgE
    @KrAvE4KaRnAgE 9 месяцев назад +2

    As a bit of fun, you could try recording real-world sounds of you performing these tasks! Also, adding a start sound may also be value for certain actions. Such as the sound of a spade hitting the dirt. Loving this series so much, thank you for sharing!

  • @LasseRafnDk
    @LasseRafnDk 9 месяцев назад

    Procedural sound (including the click sound) is such a nice QOL thing, makes the game feel so polished.

  • @tenminutetokyo2643
    @tenminutetokyo2643 9 месяцев назад

    That is nuts!

  • @rcookie5128
    @rcookie5128 8 месяцев назад

    1:25 This transition was unreal!

  • @OnlyTheVerse
    @OnlyTheVerse 9 месяцев назад

    I'll watch your every single video at least until you finish a city building game, you have my word!

  • @epiphanyatnight8732
    @epiphanyatnight8732 9 месяцев назад

    Would love to see a video on how you manage this project. Loved your Trello board, so simple and functional.

  • @rajakaz4075
    @rajakaz4075 9 месяцев назад

    Cool! Keep it going! I'm big fan! ☺

  • @seb-astian-design
    @seb-astian-design 9 месяцев назад +4

    Love the procedurally generated sounds! Cool way to create it! Have u thought about raising the pitch when u dig a hole? Idk it just felt would make the pop more satisfying.

  • @studyASMRcoffee
    @studyASMRcoffee 9 месяцев назад

    Wow, please talk more about the engine. Would love to hear more about it.

  • @YossDev
    @YossDev 9 месяцев назад

    very cool!

  • @_stephenhubbard
    @_stephenhubbard 9 месяцев назад +1

    1:25 dat transition though

  • @PultsMoizer
    @PultsMoizer 9 месяцев назад +2

    Bro had the audacity to use Audacity.
    Great Video my man, really enjoying to see such a progress in more than a month!

  • @DevelopAnEngine
    @DevelopAnEngine 9 месяцев назад

    it's going well 🌱

  • @mikejox
    @mikejox 9 месяцев назад

    great video keep it up

  • @JohnDoe-bo5yk
    @JohnDoe-bo5yk 9 месяцев назад +1

    Ohh.. making your own engine.. thought this was just a game devlog.. now I might have to go back to your first

  • @mrcingo
    @mrcingo 9 месяцев назад

    the fact that the sun is literally kissing you while you're coding is incredible

  • @360McCarthy
    @360McCarthy 9 месяцев назад +4

    Can I just say how much I love these more technical videos! I was curious also @ThinMatrix what Java version and lwjgl version are you building the game using?

  • @Genesis8934
    @Genesis8934 9 месяцев назад +1

    Random clicks sound cool; equally cool might be a step the pitch (up to a limit) in ascending or descending order. ;)

  • @GamesBySaul
    @GamesBySaul 9 месяцев назад

    Great work as always! Sounds 100% make a game feel more alive, its why i like to do audio passes every now and then to get them sorted.
    The proc gen audio you have is so cool! Definitely something I want to try out at some point my self!
    Also curious, for the click sounds, you have 5 different variations, would randomising pitch not do the same? I can see it still sounding maybe too similar so maybe variations makes more sense

  • @adrianozuna875
    @adrianozuna875 9 месяцев назад

    Man i just want to say, I'm still addicted to equilinox, it's such a good game. I have so many high hopes for this latest project

  • @kyaniteschmidt7658
    @kyaniteschmidt7658 9 месяцев назад

    1:27 very smooth!

  • @LordFers
    @LordFers 9 месяцев назад

    Nice!!!

  • @kiki-drawer2669
    @kiki-drawer2669 9 месяцев назад

    Awesome ^^

  • @Hessrs
    @Hessrs 9 месяцев назад +1

    One suggestion (that you may have already done but it's hard to tell) is if you click to perform an action such as digging/planting, if you don't let go of the click but move the tile to another valid tile, that the action still performs so the user doesn't have to click each individual tile. I think this would be something that people probably won't notice if it exists but definitely would notice if it was missing. Love the technical video though!

    • @ThinMatrix
      @ThinMatrix  9 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks! And that's already how the tools work :)

  • @ezrakornfeld8436
    @ezrakornfeld8436 9 месяцев назад

    I was at a LUG meeting so I missed the upload 😢. I can watch it now though!

  • @therhodesy
    @therhodesy 9 месяцев назад

    Those compound sounds are fantastic... love your approach.
    I'd love to see you mention something about your testing in this project, I assume you're unit testing alot of this? ....

  • @Jadushnew
    @Jadushnew 9 месяцев назад +2

    For me the hardest part is to decide what needs to be in a new class and separating different ideas to different files.

  • @eidnoxon
    @eidnoxon 9 месяцев назад +2

    Hey dude! Love your content

    • @ThinMatrix
      @ThinMatrix  9 месяцев назад +4

      Thanks! And yeah, I'll do that during the upcoming UI updates :)

  • @MunzirSuliman
    @MunzirSuliman 9 месяцев назад

    would great if you share how you're using Trello to manage the planning and development. Thanks again for the great content and beautiful game , all of the best.

  • @thehen101
    @thehen101 9 месяцев назад +2

    you should add a retry to creating the openal context(s), sometimes it seemed to fail for me for no reason when the CPU was under high load, but worked when retried

  • @artembordiuh2802
    @artembordiuh2802 9 месяцев назад

    The sound system and sounds are great, most of them in my opinion are production-ready (unless of course a different feel is intended for the game). The only suggestion is the UI click sound, it's a bit loud and intrusive, and some of the sounds are spatially shifted when using earphones

  • @geertdepuydt2683
    @geertdepuydt2683 9 месяцев назад

    noice!

  • @heandog6481
    @heandog6481 9 месяцев назад +1

    Don’t know the exact style you’re going for, but I feel like the game could be more relaxing with a less realistic style of sfx. I’m thinking more in the realm of mini motorways where it’s calming little blips and bloops that make the game somewhat relaxing and satisfying. Anyways, the more technical devlog was awesome and I really enjoyed this episode and the way you showcased and explained parts of your thought process and code!

  • @Rexmon
    @Rexmon 9 месяцев назад

    oh yeah we back B^)

  • @ezrakornfeld8436
    @ezrakornfeld8436 9 месяцев назад

    Les get it