Gas Chainsaw V.S. Electric - SHOCKING OUTCOME ! ! !
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Perfect for home defense, starts instantly, doesn't fill your house with fumes and there isn't any cord to trip on.
"Perfect for Home Defense".. that works for me..
Is the bar long enough to lop off a zombie's head?
depends on zombies type/kind
Lappmogel i
interesting home defense weapon and a little cumbersome. l mean if you can't get a gun a knife would do better than a chainsaw, because it's light and quick. it's not like you're going to hold a chainsaw behind your back. the second the badguy sees you he's going to kill you because he knows you're a threat. but if you just look like some scared asshole kneeling on the ground in his pajamas then the intruder would just want to tie you up and wouldn't see you as a threat. probably wouldn't even think you check you for weapons.
I live on a farm and heat my house with wood. I cut and split a great deal of wood. Several years ago I injured my shoulder and couldn't pull the cord on my gas chain saw. I was skeptical about usin an electric saw but I bought the best I could find based on reviews so I got the Makita 400, which is a 16" corded saw and uses 110 volts. Wow! Was I impressed. It exceeded my expectations. It was at least as good as my gas saw. It also had the advantage of being much quieter, I can run it inside my barn, there are no fumes and it does not get hot. The only disadvantage is the cord I have to contend with. I have been using the Makita for almost 12 years and I use it exclusively. It has been able to handle oak and ash with ease.
That's reassuring. Just received my first electric chainsaw, a Oregon CS1400.
Very reassuring. Just about to order Makita 14"/350mm corded.
Texas Chainsaw Massacre wouldn't have been as scary if a battery powered saw was used.
The sound is inferior, but still does the same damage.
@@melissajade7717 no it doesn't. I tried it.
@@mopar1465 Electric chainsaw is like a gun with a suppressor. Now just put a quiet muffler on the gas saw.
True but Leatherface would have had the element of surprise with no idle turnover
I bought the Makita saw after taking this video into consideration and it's thoroughly disappointing if even usable for anything over 6 or 7 inches. Occasional firewood is a no-go.
Power cuts out several times per cut and unit goes into protection mode which takes 5 or so seconds to recover.
I got 5 cuts from a 10-12" dead pine today using 4x 5AH batteries. It took 30 minutes and probably 50 cooldown/restarts.
The saw no literally couldn't keep itself going with only its own weight on the log 1/3rd through. WTF Makita?
Cuts out on 4-6" wood if you work it at all. Useless and as expensive as an MSA220.
I've used petrol saws for 40 years before I developed bursitis in my right shoulder; no more pull starting for the next year. Got a little battery powered saw and I got the shock of my life; it cuts like a demon! I'm guessing it's about the same power as the Stihl 200T (35cc). With a few batteries it easily fits my needs. The shoulder has "healed" (sort of ) and I am now able to use my petrol saws but consistently reach for the battery saw unless I'm cutting trees with a diameter of sixteen inches or more. Next to no noise, no mixing 2-stroke, instant power, virtually no maintenance; I love it!
FYI Makita has a spring assisted pull start if you go back to a gas saw... it reduces starting effort by about half.
@@Wingnut353 I wonder why companies haven't started installing small electric motor and batteries as electric starters. I remember 10 years ago when they started to be included on home owner lawn mowers
Lowering the volume as the saw starts, thank you for saving my ears, thumbs up.
The real advantage of a battery powered saw is when you are 60' high in a tree hanging on with one arm to sever that widow-maker from the tree. No pull start. Just reach out and pull the trigger and you're cutting.
trickdawg you can pull it downstairs;)
these look like a great tree saw, I remember the guy I worked with would always take the smallest saw possible up the tree
Another advantage is no wasted fuel or extra noise idling between cuts (eg for de-limbing, cutting firewood etc) = more "use time".
I seldom climb with my gas top handles anymore. The only problem I have with the smaller cordless saws is the chain speed being slow and leaving ugly cuts when trimming.
I just climbed with my Solo 637 top grip. Beautiful little saw but you’re right, pull starting while in the tree can be a trick, especially with the high compression.
My brother laughed when I bought an electric chainsaw but I also have extra batteries and a little generator. We'll see who can't start their chainsaw haha
Man i have a 18" electric saw and that thing is amazing.
Electric motors has more torque than an internal combustion engine. The only downside is the battery capacity and battery spares
That's why the gas chainsaws are still better for now. 😊👍
Yep. Gasoline supersedes batteries for now. Make batteries easily charged quickly on the go that last a while and you have yourself a deal.
Was going to write this. Another example: electric vehicles are superior to gasoline in all ways but endurance (fuel storage).
@@elijahmerrill1132 3 ways.... Initial cost, endurance and maintenance. Wait until the battery needs replaced..... bet I can rebuild 3 gas engines for that cost.
@@montegb2951 You're saying internal combustion engines require less maintenance? Um, electric motors don't require oil changes, etc. Also, in the case of this saw: batteries can be rebuild with new cells. Did it for my drill. Glad I don't have a gas drill.
I wouldn't have thought the electric saw would perform that good. Thanks for another great video!
I have the same Husky saw and when it was new was pretty gutless, a few tanks of fuel later and it is a different beast altogether. And there is always the auto tune carb that needs setting up by running the saw flat out.
My son bought an electric kobalt chain saw at Lowe’s. I’ve been impressed with its cutting power and batter life. An added feature is its kickback safety. It immediately brakes the chain if it kicks.
They are great for pole saws. I cannot imagine how interesting it would be to try to rig up and operate a gas chainsaw on the end of a 12' pole.
So Lowe's beat HD to the punch with a chainsaw before one was introduced by the Ridgid Line. The HD Ridgid advantage is a lifetime warranty including the batteries. I saw something in Lowe's the other day that made me think Lowe's is going to match HD on the warranty issue but I don't recall the exact verbiage. Wait and see.
My neighbor replaced his gas saw with a Makita cordless. I am eternally grateful as I'm not woken up at sunrise every Saturday morning to the rattling roar of the old gas saw.
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Must not like being a man haha just kidding
Johnny5 stop sleeping till noon man
i like listening to gas chainsaws in the morning
There's nothing that starts the day like big timber hitting the ground at dawn.
Im that bored that im watching chainsaw comparisons for no reason
Same but went from watching someone remove a wasp nest with his vacuum to this!!! Hahaha
I am now a fountain of useless, random bits of knowledge from all arenas, thankyou youtube
I was just saying the same thing.... Got here from the Fuel Injected Stihl vid. LoL
Same
You are wrong. You are nihilistic and depressed which is why you don't see the reason you've watched it
I still have a Remington chain saw from the mid 90's. Did great.
what an effective video you have made! Create more. Thanks for this one
I've been curious about the Makita mainly because of other tools I have that use the same batteries. Ive used the Milwaukee version at work and it is very impressive.
I have had a 120-volt electric chainsaw for years. $39. Still runs.
Same here. I think mine was $45 20 years ago. 14” bar and it’s the Lumberjack brand. Works great for household jobs. Will cut 9-10 inches no problem.
Been using the Husky 120i electric saw and boy is it a piece of kit! Instant startup and torque and the ability to start and shutdown the saw almost instantly are great features. Downside is the barrier to entry is much higher and you'll want to pick up extra batteries or one of the battery backpacks if your wanting to cut longer than 30mins - both of which are very expensive.
Very interesting review on the two chain saws. My required use is local and domestic so the obvious one would be the Makita. Having said that,when out felling trees when the location can be far from an electric outlet for charging , one would put emphasis on the versatility of the petrol driven saw. The issue is the top quality of the Makita versus the flexibility of the Huskvarna. A super review. Thanks. Regards Dave Wiltshire. UK.
Only similar to having a petrol cannister and some 2 stroke on hand, instead you’d have spare batteries.
Your last couple cuts with the Husky, were 10 seconds each, equaling the Makita. I wonder if it just needed warming up.
Ooooooh that is interesting
Smaller bite size!
The saw dust was finer on the gas saw, usually means the chains not sharp or warn or both.
If you like that little chainsaw you have to try the greenworks 80v chainsaw, makes the dewalt look like a toy.
lol dont say that till you have tried a greenworks, I have 2 batteries and I can keep cutting, one last about 20 mins the next charged in 20 mins, I love it!
Been watching you for years... started out on RUclips one year ago... love your work.. the tree house series made me happy!! ... great work... keep sharpening those chisels!! :-)
It all depends on the use. For most home owners, an electric saw is the best route. For those of us that log for firewood, and other heavier duty job requirements, gas is the way to go. I personally like a corded chainsaw. As has been stated already, a cord can be cumbersome but the instant on/off is extremely nice. Tech has come along to the point now where battery life has been extremely extended from what it used to be. I myself will continue to use both. Good vid
I may have skipped some of video start and maybe this was addressed. But- sharpness of the chain is a HUGE factor in how fast it cuts.
He did say both were sharpened. so equal ground
I would be interested to know the quality of the chains provided with either of them.
But there also are different kinds of chains. Be it a standard safety chain or chisel
@@Am4t3r4su No, he said the Makita was sharpened and the Husqvarna was unused. There's a difference.
The point of the video is to show you that an electric saw is at least equal to gas in power and speed. There are advantages and disadvantages to each besides that.
Electric chainsaws are the way to go for most occasional use purposes. For real work, continuous use, there is no substitute for gasoline.
I don’t see electric having the same amount of raw power and cutting ability. Electric is pretty much anything smaller than 2-3 inch diameter
Very wrong. I have cut a 20"+ laburnum with my electric, no problem at all. The limiting factor, though, is indeed the power output of the motor. Anything larger than about 2kW (i.e. 3HP) requires a heavy electric motor, with equally, if not more so, large and heavy batteries. So until we develop the technology to store electric charge in smaller/lighter batteries, and then convert that into motion with smaller/lighter engines, petrol engines win in the bigger size chainsaws.
Sonny K electric engines are torque monsters, just look at the Tesla engines. Once engineers are able to solve battery life, they'll be no real reason for gas.
the problem with electric is you have to make sure you have enough batteries and you need to make sure they are fully charged or you'll be in trouble. and if you use your electric all day everyday you'll kill your batteries faster and you'll kill the motor faster because electric motors can only take so much stress before the coil slowly cooks itself. but a gas chainsaw can cut forever as long as you keep it lubed and up to spec.
knurlgnar24 exactly. when you run out of gas, refill and get going again. but when you run out of electricity you gotta charge up and wait awhile.
Thank you. I was contemplating purchasing the Makita. Sold! 👍
In Belgium I know several arborists who use the husqvarna electric (battery) chainsaw, and they are used also a lot by professional gardeners. The same with battery hedge trimmers (witch are used a lot in Europe because we have lots of hedges) .They are getting better, stronger and more reliable each year. Love to use them!
I have a lot of respect for Makita Chainsaws. Great video.
I’ve got the 40 volt Dewalt chainsaw. It’s perfect for just doing cutting/trimming around the house.
Best use it outside
Around the house.!?!?!
You use a chainsaw indoors?
Gotta trim those cabinets and chairs so they don't get out of hand!
He said that 540xp was brand new that saw needs 5 or 6 tanks ran through it to get the motor broken in...source: I may be an arborist
The 540xp also has the digital carb. Tunes itself after a while and that one definitely hadn't tuned itself lol. The Makita did really well tho.
Couple other things as well. The longer design of the Makita allowed Cody to add some muscle into it. Notice how he was lifting the log on the up cut. Also, the disks that he cut with the Makita were much thinner, and would break off rather than pinch the saw.
@@nunya3163 The log was way further out for the ICE one, which would actually allow him to "pull' up harder than on the electric one which is why it didn't move.
If you add the start up time and warm up time to the gas saw the Makita is the clear winner for sure.
gunlover1955
If it’s charged.
i have 4 gas and few electric chainsaws, (110 v corded) the electric models start every time. the gas units....not so much. also ive never had to maintain (other than lubing / sharpening) the electric saws. bottom line, for me the electric saws outlive the gas saws, and cost a fraction of a gas saw.
warm up is 1 min
Im swedish and use that husqvarna at work.. i was actually curious about thia makita so it was amazing to see the comparision. Thanks!
I picked up one of the ryobe 40v chainsaws, and their 40v weed whip. I was quite skeptical about the electric models, but the gas options in the same price range looked pretty cheap.
I am impressed. I love that I can use the same batteries.
The chainsaw cuts much better than I had expected. Really the only downside is having to charge the batteries.
For around the house stuff they are perfect. I had some limbs to clear that were about 1 foot diameter at the biggest and honestly the saw had the job finished so fast I was bummed that I didn't have more to cut.
If you're going to spend a day in the field you'll still want a gasser, short of that though.
Why not just buy a couple more batteries? Makes no sense. It's not like a gas saw can run all day long either
@@DyLemmaOG For two reasons.
First the batteries are the most expensive part of the deal. They sell you a tool/battery/charger for 120 bucks, but if you want to buy a battery alone it's 100 bucks.
Secondly I can say only now after owning them for a few years, the batteries are trash.
Mistakenly leave one in the garage overnight in the winter, and it's toast.
Let them sit without using them for a few weeks, wiped out.
I've had to replace every one of the original ryobe batteries in less than two years. Meanwhile my ingersol rand batteries that have seen periods of heavy use as well as long storage function like new after ten years.
I'm hoping the off-brand replacement batteries I've picked up (at a fraction of the ryobe's cost) will hold up better. They really can't be any worse.
Are they pulling the same chains ?
Right around 3:07 he says the bar lengths are the same and they’re both running the same chain. Try listening better.
06:19 That's what she said
Nice test but all wrong in order to make a fare comparaison you MUST compare the power in watts or horse power.
Electric saws have an amazing torque for their sizes"a tpo of the line electric saw can pout ou tup to 3.5 H.P.
The gas saw used in the video puts out 1.8 kw when the electric saw used piuts out 3 kw.
No brainer cannot compare the two saws.
It's like to compare a tesla with a mustang please do a fare comparaison test and be more professionnal
Normand Bertrand the point is they’re very similar in size dimensionally
I’m worried about it working in extreme conditions. I would love to use one of these.
I was just having a conversation yesterday with a friend of mine on the idea of using an electric saw in a residential neighborhood, compared to a gas powered saw. He has a need to cut so rarely I advised him spending $400 on a large gas powered saw was not a terribly good investment. I remembered seeing this comparison video and after we priced them yesterday with the value of the electric saws being half or less of what he was going to spend minimum, I sent this video link to him.
do you mean the cost was half or the value was half, as in it's not as valuable
Electric saw mounted on your dirt bike constant charging off the motor through a small inverter. That would be a cool setup. Thanks for sharing such a heated topic, but the future is electric. I climb with the t536 li xp and would never go back to gas. No headache from gas exhaust no pull start. Good things when you are 200feet up a big doug fir.
That's a great idea about the inverter to charge while riding a dirt bike. Another way is having a regular 12V cigarette style input & a Milwaukee "car" charger. I bought the Milwaukee chainsaw. I'm planning to take it w/ me while riding a dirt bike to clear some trails. I already tested it on some firewood so I know even w/ just 1 battery it's good for a few hours of work on & off. I would take a couple extra batteries anyways & the saw alone weighs only 14.5lbs w/ the 12ah battery in it.
Bought a Stihl cordless for my truck saw. It is amazing!! Lasts for hours of use. Ended up adding a trimmer.
You never have to worry about the battery starting. Makita got a deal going on as of 4-15-21 where you buy their 16 inch brushless saw and you get a charger and four 5 ah batteries for $409.00
Nice tidy stack of firewood I see back there
What about weight, running times (hours/minutes) and Db ?
Stihl's professional electric lineup is honestly crazy good. Hate to say it but I do feel electric is coming though of course i'd like to keep going with Stihl's 2-Stroke range.
Stihl's electric top handle is also great as well.I mean the only bad thing currently with all is battery life time.
Of course a lot better than the Makita in terms of power
The Stihl saw is probably the best electric saw but Makita have them on the batteries at the moment they have been developing batteries a lot lot longer. I’m looking to buy a cordless saw I’m a died in the wool Stihl man but have Makita cordless tools so I’m going to be buying the Makita as I already have the batteries.
Cosmos that's true however I'd personally like to use the 2-Stroke option however electric does have a time and place and its only getting bigger.
My one complaint is the auto tune system with carbs nowadays while the program can find faults and tune your car the best it can it doesn't beat manual tuning.
Cosmos it's not an oil conspiracy, as soon as the technology is viable the market will respond as long as government doesn't step in. Battery tech still has a ways to go but it's promising, I give it 10 more years before the tech is there to run 20" bar and batteries that will last and are affordable.
Cosmos YOU STILL NEED OIL FOR THE BAR AND CHAIN!
Very interesting. were both chains equally sharp?
Either way, I am impressed. It would be interesting to see how much the akita could cut on a charge too
I was wondering the exact same thing
wonder how long it will take before they run out of power after cutting and cutting ~ also in national parks you said chainsaw are not allowed to be used, hence the hand saws.....would a battery powered chainsaws be allowed?
QALibrary Dewalt says theirs is good for 110 cuts in between charges
QALibrary: It is important to distinguish between National Parks, in America, and National Forests. Which was said and which was intended? National Parks have very different restrictions, for different reasons. National Forests, where I have worked, have safety restrictions, some times limits on what and when you cut. And diameter limits.
Many people confuse these two kinds of entity, and their purposes. It's important to be clear on these things. It can keep you out of trouble.
i have no clue what the difference is. aroud where i live we have a few national forests like the poplar forest but i dont remember every going to a national park
thank you - not sure how many people that watch the video here are not American (like myself) and thus have no understanding the difference or understanding of the two ~ thus can you explain the differences of the two, please?
there are even some americans like myself who dont know the difference either
Just used a Worx 18 inch. Did everything a home owner could want. I was in my backyard. I had an extension cord...
Easily cut what I needed. $85. Cutting up logs over 18". Never had to replace the chain.
Practically disposable at that price.
Stihl has been the best electric chainsaw I've ever used hands down. One full battery lasts me a week of use, cutting about 5 or so telephone poles everyday no problem. My stihl is a primary go to now.
Andrew Aldridge awesome. Which stihl electric saw do you have? I know there’s a handful of them
@@jacobfuchs962 it's the msa 160, believe it has somewhere around 120-200 minutes of runtime on a full charge, given that it can cut a pole in half in about 15 seconds it lasts forever. It's expensive but imo it's better than gas and other battery or electrics.
Sthil is just awesome😂 all i buy chainsaw and weedeater wise
8:30 Shiba sighting.
I have several gas and one 40v craftsman, for around the house/farm use, small stuff, I grab the craftsman. For real cutting, it doesnt hold a candle though
Craftsman is no Makita
I've used a bit of both. I'd 100% recommend the electric if your only going to use the saw ~8hrs. or less per year. less maintenance with electric, but limited battery life is well limiting. If you do alot of chainsaw work ie more than an hour or 2 at a time gas is much better.
Perfect for keeping the Bon 🔥 going at 3am without waking others
Fire bug weirdo.
PUT THE FIRE OUT AND DOUSE IT
That was pretty cool. The big test would longevity. I own a 40 year old Homelite still runs great. I bet it would do close to the gas powered one in the test.
FYI- it gets used a lot. For an old chain saw. 5 to 6 times a year. 3 to 4 hours each uses.
Cody- it still has the original bar. It is not worn out. I've looked and had it checked.
Daniel Sweeney + I have a great old Homelite too. 16". Bought it used about 1978. When turned it off, about 2000, it was running and working fine. But went to a EGO electric saw because of the less
prep:
-buy, install spark plug.
-buy n store gas and 2-stroke oil.
-clean air filter.
-buy, install new spark plug.
-buy, install new, non-ripped air cleaner.
-buy, install spark plug.
And the electric is quieter.
But when the battery needs replacing, I'll see how less it was costing to
-buy, install spark plug...
The cost to replace electric parts is like nothing and also less lightly to break because there's not a lot going on inside of electric equipment. The most expensive part of electric stuff is the battery, it's most of the cost actually, over half
Cute demonstration, good for the person who cuts the odd log , but I hear my house with wood in northern Alberta , I’ll stick with my husqvarna 562xpg
I love my Makita 16" electric. It needs a cord but it has great torque and it spins slow enough I only had to sharpen the blade once even after cutting down 10 trees. It can plunge and cut like regular gas saw. For cutting logs preparing to split, I use the electric saw.
Corded electric are the absolute best if you have a fixed connection and don't need to move around too much.
As a city dweller, the battery powered chainsaw is just about perfect. I use a Ryobi pole saw that cuts up to 6 inches in diameter. I can switch the heads out to use it as a string trimmer and a hedge trimmer. Three tools in one. The right tool for the job, that what it is all about.
Not shocking...electric has 100% torque availability from 1rpm to max....that’s the huge advantage..esp for cutting wood
no mixing fuel, no jerking it off, no vibration, little noise. just drop the batts on and go.
True. but for long time use and for jobs that aren't brief or around the house tasks, gas will be the way to go until they can solve the need for carrying a lot of extra batteries and the recharge time.
@@Am4t3r4su the recharge time is solved. here is the thing about recharging, the higher the voltage the pack, the faster you can safely charge it. lets say you have a 20 volt 40 amp battery. thats 800 watt hours. but the cells have a max current charge rate of 4 amp, that means its gonna take 10 hours to charge a 40 amp pack. now we re arrange the cells. now its a 80 volt 10 amp pack still 800 whr. BUT its charge time is now 2.5 hours. this is what greenworks did with their 80 volt line, their 2 amp batteries take 30 minutes to charge but run in the mower for 25-30 minutes. a 1=1 charge to run time ratio, so with 2 batts you have continuous mower capability.
i have the powerworks 60v chain saw with a 2.5 ah battery, its the same setup as my 60volt snapper the batts are interchangeable, for as much as i'll use the saw i'll never run out of battery between my 2.5 and 4.0
@@Am4t3r4su I would use a cord from my vehicle battery for longer jobs!
@Semper Fi yeah you ramp up the gas saw
"The most requested video of all time" ;)
amazing!!! never thought battery chain saws were capable of this. How long does the battery last? what was the weight comparisons as well?
You gotta remember all the new electric vehiles WILL come out with a port where you can connect these toys directly to the output for charging/ using as an extn.
Electric will always have more torque, the only thing that really holds back portable electric tools is energy density. Battery technology still has a decent amount of progress to make before they are on par with internal combustion engines.
Yeah the other concern I'd have here is power dissipation... I don't think the electric can keep up there either without a fan of some type which it appears to lack. It's likely it just dissipates a bunch of heat into the motor and just warns yuou not to run continuously without cooldown period or something in the manual.
I own the Makita Chainsaw(the exact same one)...love it...it is perfect! I have cut down many decent size trees with that puppy!!!
MrPioneerlight2011 enjoy paying a fortune when you need two new batteries soon.
Actually....I work at Makita.....so.....discounts help!!! LOL....
Yes they aren't cheap. I just had an old 18v battery go bad on me. Luckily I got a solid 12 years out of it. I'm considering that exact saw actually. I'm pretty much 100% makita on my tools (yea I guess I'm a fanboy) so I already have a decent set of batteries. The big benefit for me is that when I need a chainsaw I need one, but then sometimes I can go a long time in between using one. Small gas engines aren't the most fun to have to maintain if you aren't using them regularily.
Excellent for indoor use in a garage with no carbon dioxide to worry about and super quiet
But it makes the chainsaw less scary and less menacing
Not carbon dioxid (co2) but carbon monoxide (co)
lol why cut logs inside a garage? Its gonna get filled with dust and wood chips
from my understanding one downside of the electrics is since the don't utilize a clutch, they are able to cut through chaps.
Yes there should be some sort of slippage device.for that purpose. Granted ansi/osha have not required cheap for climbing or bucket work yet.
I was half expecting him to bind the chains together and burn the saws out.
I think the electric is even faster if you factor in the starting time of the gas saw like the logging competition do grab saw start it then make the cuts
What's run time between the two? One tank full vs one charge?
Now that's a good gauge as well!
@Studd Muffin 30 mins on what ah batteries?
I use the Stihl 36v MSA 200C for cutting up one metre of 100 to 150 mm diameter logs into four pieces for the fireplace and I usually cut up around twenty of the metre lengths at a time. A 6.0 Ah battery will do all of that work without running out. I also do clearing fallen trees off the local hill trails. I put the batteries in back pack which then makes the saw very light for carrying in the hand. The last tree I removed I barely used a quarter of the battery charge so taking two batteries plus spare chain oil with me was being too pessimistic. I have cleared trees of up to 250mm diameter and cut them up into manageable pieces. Generally I can do a lot of work on one AP300, 6.0 Ah battery and one battery charge uses almost one fill of chain oil, much like a gas powered saw where one tank of gas used requires the chain oil to be refilled.
It would be good to know how many cuts each saw can do, per charge or gas fill.
Also if you can maintain the same speed near the end of the battery charge.
@@dlwatib i have alot of makita battery tools and they all hold the same power level till the battery just stops working. so i would assume that would be the same case with the chain saw. since it using the same batterys/tech as their other 18v battery line tools
"a down , up, a down , up" hahahahahah
That's what she said.
Someone has a dirty mind. 😂
I have always thought electrical tools will eventually outperform gas powered. I think we're at that stage of humanity.
It's true right now.
Problem is doing that will drain your battery and you'll be fucked.
issue is more that soon there won't be enough petrol to run these things. That is if we manage not to melt the icecaps and the permafrost before oil runs out.
@@fetusofetuso2122 you can always make more oil, you can use wood
@@vincentas1 yeah, why not. Let's make fuel out of trees. It's not like they produce the oxygen we breathe
I use an Electric chainsaw mains 220v powered with cord. Machine Mart UK own brand Clark. Tough well made, ideal home use for logs up to 6" and general lopping around the garden. Being retired now over 65, I like the no hassle, Plug it in, pull the trigger and cut, less noise, no fuel needed, no exhaust, no pull start exhaustion on a troublesome engine. Gets my vote every time I use it.
The "shocking outcome" in the title is such a dad joke haha
Thats husky was bogging down like crazy.. try a stihl ms200 😉
My old (restored) stihl 024AV never bogs down
He probably had a junk safety chain on it
And that husky is low end budget one. Try with a professional husqvarna, or a Stihl with a brand new chain.
Not really. That Husky is a 600+ dollar saw. However, it is a dedicated top handle climber's saw, built to be as light and agile as possible. A normal saw, (rear handle) priced similarly to the Makita would cut MUCH faster than either of those two.
I have a ms 180. And it rips faster than both of those.
I wish you would have done a stress test on that double battery set up
what does this mean?
It chews through batteries, but that’s why it works so well. You need multiple double chargers to keep up with it for continuous use.
I would like to know which one lasts longer: a tank of gas or a full charge. Carrying 2 extra batteries seems to be the better and safer way to go compared to gas.
I own the Makita, A tank of gas will last significantly longer than 2 batteries. I dont know about that husky but compared to a Stihl MS 291 I would guess roughly you would need around 6 batteries to do the same as 1 tank of gas. Rough guess, no promises on accuracy if you find more accurate info :)
Brett Steele I can't speak to all gas powered but the one I had lasted about an hour. The electric is about the same, when the electric one isn't running it's not using power. No idle with electric.
Jihadis would be proud
Buuuuut....., with a power inverter in your truck, you can cut indefinitely, as long as you can start your engine and sharpen a chain every few hours. Zero Drama. Starts every time. Take a set of brushes. You could potentially stay off road for years with a solar panel. I had the gas Makita/Dolmar and it was incredible when everyone else wanted to use it...Never started for me though. Pretty sure I'll never buy a gas chainsaw again.
That particular Makita saw is brushless.
When I was at my friends orchard. They used pneumatic chains saws. They were very quick at cutting. when using with a 4 wheel drive lift They could just go from tree to tree. They are expensive though.
In the Soviet Union, they had corded-electric tractors and other farm implements as early as the 1930s. With today's technology as it could be applied to cord dispersal/retrieval, cleaning, inspection, etc., it seems even more feasible.
Years ago I saw a video of a guy using a pneumatic chainsaw in a lake cutting trees that were covered when the made the lake long ago. I was very interesting. I think they were mahogany trees in South America. They had to be careful because the tree would surface violently and they had air hoses that could get tangled in the branches.
Cody, did you feel like the additional leverage provided by the rear handle and length of the Makita produced an unfair advantage?
bubbaallred that's what I was wondering, less leverage with the husky
Leverage (i dont think) was the problem. He bogged it down a few times so it just wasn't quite as strong. Strong for a small saw though for sure.
Electric simply has more torque. That's the advantage.
Husky was slowing down even without the added leverage.
More leverage would have just caused it to stall out even earlier.
Be interested to know if their weight is somewhat equivalent though.
If the Husky is a lot lighter then maybe a comparison with a larger engine petrol saw would be more apt.
Width and pitch on a chain can make a big difference on the cut also
When you do the DeWalt can you also do your biggest gas chainsaw just for fun
Lucas Murphy
Dewalt electric chainsaw is BAD
The bar tensioner is never tight enough
The bar WILL WOBBLE
Tested the dewalt before
Return it back to Lowe’s
Sofjan Mustopoh Ok, well that's why he is going to test it
Brian Miller it depends on the type of sponsorship. Sometimes the company is confident in their product and just sends it out other times yes, the company approves the video first.
Gasoline chainsaws can be such a faff, if it is not used for a while any remaining gas can go off, they are generally dirty, smelly things with all the hazards of gas power fire/explosion risks.
At my place, I have neighbours, so electric makes less noise, I use corded electric and with a high-quality chain which makes a massive difference.
My cutting takes place when it is sunny to make full use of Solar generated electricity.
Can you do the same test with a Stihl and McCuloch cainsaw
mcculoch is a husqy owned brand so he has technically already done that
I've retired my cantankerous 2 stroke for electric.
Not disappointed.
Milwaukee has one out also
I’ve seen reviews between Milwaukee, DeWalt, Makita and an Echo gas chainsaw, the Milwaukee one outdid them all by far
Stay away the Milwaukee is garbage dewalt, makita and Ego are much better
Lou Cifer I own wilkwuakee and they are anything but junk. It is the best brand I've used. I'd take it any day over dewalt,mikita, rigid, ect
milwaukee puts dewalt to shame, i own both the m18 fuel and the dewalt 20v max vr 1/2 impact and the m18 poops on the dewalt. i also own the m18 fuel weed wacker, way easier to use since all the weight isnt on the head like the dewalt
turbonut20v I own the 20v Dewalt weed wacker it's more balanced than Milwaukee's, being there's weight in the front and back giving it better balance ,the Milwaukee is back heavy and it's quite a bit heavier than the Dewalt I have both well the Milwaukee is at my job, don't get me wrong the Milwaukee is good but it seems to tire me out more and has more vibration almost like a gas model, but with the Milwaukee you have to use the 9amp battery for it to work at its best the 4amp battery just doesn't cut seems to get tangled up with weeds more
i know builders who rip out wooden floors with electric saws no fumes no cables very quick too.
I mean, I'd hope they're wearing chainsaw gear. Hit a nail or some other bullshit you can't see/remove, and you'll be singing soprano.
I bought an electric corded chain saw for trimming on my property. I have 2 100' high current extension cords so I can get to everything I need to. It has served me well. A bit of a hassle to get the cords unreeled, but I like the fact that it doesn't require gas and the storage issues of infrequent use.
Not to mention you don't have to store gasoline or inhale fumes.
The husky Is a top handle for use by a qualified arborist, up in the tree. Id say this is a terrible comparison due to the intended roles of these saws being totally different.
Correct.
I have both the top handled husky in video and their top handled battery saw 536 li xp. Similar results. A little more up front, but after 3 years, has more than paid for itself in cost savings alone. And dont get me started on their polesaws... even better.
i hate electric anything, they have way too much torque, ill stick with my lesser 2 stroke gas fire saws thankyou. I hope a 230v saw dont ever come out, keep deadly electric away as some will wind up hurt with high torque of electric!
Final some who knows what there going on about and more to the point this guy obviously doesn’t know that he’s got an electric ground saw and petrol top Handel wich isn’t built to cut really quickly
actually both of those are trim saws, my company doesnt only use top handles in trees and you would never use such a small saw as a ground saw as they dont hold up well
You did 2 or 3 cuts that were just barely the whole life diameter with the electric. But yes, it was faster.
you need to NOT use a top handle petrol saw in such a comparison. there is a huge leverage difference between the top handle and the conventional saws i can see that in the amount of force your using and how your body is straining to apply leverage when using the top handle petrol saw. if you were using a conventional handled petrol saw against a conventional handles electric saw then i bet the petrol saw MAY have done the cuts faster . but the way your comparison was done you were comparing oranges and tangerines ( close but 2 completely different methods of use) and no i did not mean to say apples and oranges
completely agree with that. I think the Makita would have still won due to torque
HolyGrayel not really. bottom line the battery powered saw is just as quick as the gas one and that is surprising. the difference based on technique is negligible
yang mills while I agree the electric saw cuts better due to the increased torque and more constant torque. I’d have to disagree with the statement that the differences handle position is negligible as I use chainsaws daily and the handle position makes a huge difference in leverage between different saws. assuming the saw is sufficiently powered to compensate the additional forces. The same as using a cheater bar when you can’t get enough torque to loosed a bolt.
But factoring in the saw was starting to bog down I still feel the electric would have won this test even if the forces applied were equal.
Is wouldnt make a difference. The hasky started choking so increasing the pressure would only make the chain stall. The electric win this hands down and if you knew how electric motors work then you would know why. And to think that this is only a standard brushless motor. Imagine the power if it were a squirrel cage 3 phase motor! Would be an extra 25-50% more torque maybe even more at the low end.
The amount of leverage does not matter in this case as you can hear the husky choking under pressure already with the top handle leverage.
How are those comparable in any way?
clue is in the name Chain Saw
Rupert Rankin but they’re entirely different chain saws
@@jacobfuchs962 now youre on the trail of the concept of comparison. When you compare identical chainsaws, the video is very boring. When you compare similar chainsaws, the video is useful but tbh a little bit tedious. When you compare completely different chainsaws, you get to see earnest spectacled people called Jacob make themselves interesting for a millisecond. RUclips i love you
Another excellent video. Thank you, Wranglestar.
Aren’t you meant to let the petrol chainsaw warm up before you use it so it has maximum power? Correct me if I’m wrong
generally anything two stroke is ready to go as soon as it runs smoothly.
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I was going to say the same thing, once the engine clears up from the sputters its as ready as its going to be.
Shoulda watched this before I bought my gas saw. Damn.
Gas is better if you want to use it for a long period of time or if you don’t have extra batteries
That little Makita is GORGEOUS. I've wanted one for a while. This video amplified my tool lust.
Also, it's nice to see that I'm not the only one who hates noisy tools. I wear hearing protection almost constantly.
Excellent comparison. Notably easier on the battery (Makita). Thank you for the comparison. Been waiting for this!
When your dad is less of a boomer than you are and brings over the Tesla tools.
my dad bought over his new DeWalt cordless drills for a few projects since I got granddad's Milwaukee magnum cord drill and it's impressive how good electric tools are when compared to the clunky older style. The Milwaukee has much more torque and probably will last longer than me but damn I liked those drills
I have 3 exams tomorrow and watching this makes me stressful in a calming way
I own a makita electric corded saw and an old sthil 026 gas saw. The makita is most definitely a quality built tool and performance is just about on par with my sthil. No regrets at all. Great for early morning firewood bucking without disturbing your neighbors. I must point out that I am suprised the gas husqvarna was slower than the makita your testing. I did notice quite a bit of wood dust coming off the husqvarna. Maybe the chain was not very sharp. I do love your videos . You have a lot of (Know - How) to share with others. And the info is accurate. Thank you.
Thanks for video. How much difference is there if we make a sound sound comparison? Can we say half the battery with battery is less loud?
Reason makita faster is because the shape and trigger/handle position. Makita is further apart so more natural and his arm can put more force/leverage onto it. Provided if they are same power. Makita will be faster. I bet his arms sore after using the gas one. On top of that he cut with makita first so his arms are already little tired :-)
You can see/hear the gas motor struggling to keep the torque when he pulls too hard. It's not up to that he pulls too weak.
Damn that Makita rips.
TheBCSledder should try the Milwaukee chainsaw that also rips
I just this morning used an $90 Ryobi corded electric chainsaw to clean up a 30 foot tree limb that fell in my front yard. It was about 10 inches in diameter at the thickest point. Blasted right through it, no problem. No gas. No smell. No mess. I actually already own a gas chainsaw but didn't have any gas and oil on hand and someone mentioned how electric saws were better for short jobs. I didn't believe him but did some research and ordered this Ryobi. I'm sold. I agree if you have to get far from electrical power or have to do a lot of cutting, gas is the way to go. As far as power and speed I think they're about equal. It's more a matter of your situation. I can reach everywhere on my property with a 100 foot cord. and I only need it to take down small trees or remove downed limbs.
If you look at gas or electric tools and compare them to their cordless counterparts what cordless tool has the best chance of replacing the gas version? I think it is the chainsaw. I have never used the Makita but I do have 2 of the Milwaukee cordless saws and I freaking LOVE them!!
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