“The Language Of Farage Appeals To Traditional Tory Voters” What’s Next For Defeated Tory Party?
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- Talk’s Jeremy Kyle is joined by acting editor of Conservative Home, Henry Hill, to discuss James Cleverly’s comments, saying the Tories need to “get our act together”.
His comments came as an MP accused the committee that sets the rules for the leadership contest of being “bent”, Suella Braverman called Reform an “existential threat” to the Tories and Kemi Badenoch reportedly used Rishi Sunak’s first shadow cabinet meeting to criticise his campaign and Ms Braverman.
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The small number of Conservatives who are right wing should join Reform and let the others fade away.
3 in 4 GE19 Tory voters despise the RON (Remoaner One Nationers). Sunak & Hunt & Kearns & Noakes & Kemi & Tugenhat are seen as bad MPs who will ALWAYS betray the 17.4M Brexiteers. The only one they trust is Brave Suella.
Sunak has purged out Boris & Truss & filled safe seats with pervy lib dems. As per Nadines X last night in thier sex orgies.
Agree with Suella
The Tories left millions of us politically homeless when Sunak was hoisted upon us.
This Conservative guy is clueless! More of the same.
He was a creature of the establishment and the metropolitan liberal elite. I never forgave him and the establishment for stabbing Boris in the back, because he listen to the people and was seen as a popularist, which the metropolitan liberal left hate.
These waffles just don't get it. Prime ministers sourced from one exclusive University. Check out the leaders of pre election UK, Scotland, Wales, London and now the two scrapping opportunists of Tory women.
We in these islands want our country back.
Viva Reform 🇬🇧
Conservatives are finished. Vote Reform always.
Rishi sacked Suella at the behest of the left.
She was blocked. She was on an interview on sunday just gone on GB News.@user-hj2cr7pc8h
@user-hj2cr7pc8hexactly she's made her bed as her twitter is gross. 1 banning dogs and not relizing it's the owners but worse was fining charities for giving out tents for the homeless 😮 awful bint
From all I'm hearing out of the Conservative Party, I really don't think they get it!? I think they really are finished.
They never leave Westminster and speak to real people.
No Kemi is not what Reform need
Nope
Nigel Farage should not join Suella in there party got to be the other way around she joins him in his party
The Conservative Party is established.Reform is new,let good sense prevail.Some Reform supporters may not want to join and some Conservatives may not want to join.This situation demands mature behaviour and skilful strategy.Think of the population and not any selfish demand.
Yes 💯
Totally agree on this.
Nigel Farage has made it blatantly clear he will not join the Conservative Party, he will build up Reform UK and at the same time he will be the leader of Reform UK.
He’s not going anywhere. I mean why on earth would you want to join the Conservative Party who are close to extinction
The Tories have destroyed England's cultural identity
You are absolutely right, but the people do not care!!!!! just look at how many likes this post has got!!
SHAMEFUL!!!!!!! What's the matter with the British?????
Look at the potential candidates. Looks more like Africa or Asia !! The Tories are finished. People need to vote for Nationalist parties.
@@77Xd2 absolutely!
Suella wanted to make the policy happen..then she was stopped by the civil service, and she ended up unable to enact the will of the people.
I would love her in reform.
She'll cause problems, leave her to sink with the consocialists
She was stopped by the PM and cabinet ministers. And the civil service.
Why would I vote for kemi? She's done nothing
She fought hard to stop the trans madness they wouldn’t allow her
What did suella do when she was 2 times Home Secretary 😂😮
@@junehope5152 sorry, but I don't think it's enough to inspire or lead a nation
@@junehope5152 she's a foreigner, not british. never again.
@@princealex3985 She had the correct ideas, but Sunak overruled her.
Vote reform
Vote Reform
Keep it going we got 5 years blot hell
The elections over!
I voted Reform and there is no way I want the Reform party to become part of the Tory Party. If Tory MP's want to join Reform, ok, only if the Reform Party want them to become MP's for them. The Reform Party are saying and doing the right things, that's something the Tory have never done in the last 14 years. As a party the Tories are tarnished goods.
It’s not going to happen now or in the future. I mean why would you merge with a party which is close to extinction
Its not rocket science Farage was offering what the Tories should have been offering. Having said that Sunak wouldn't have had the backbone to deliver it just keep waffling.
why would Gandhi's Revenge do what the British people want?? WEF puppet.
Suella is brilliant
See a doctor.
Suella, it seems, is only in it for her ambition. She wants to be the next PM. (Which clearly won’t happen). Otherwise she would have already defected to Reform.
No-one needs to see a Doctor re: political views in the UK, that's correct is it not.@@zog97xy
Cleverly's comment (above) bodes well - for Reform! If the Tories decide to remain in the centre, it's game over. Literally.
Who is Cleverly?
Honestly the Tories are done because they've lost the trust of the people. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
The Reform Party is doing ok on there own thank you
Rishi doesn't care he's California Dreaming.
The unpalatable truth is the rank of Conservative MPs is totally void of inspirational leadership.
If more Tories were like Suella we'd still have a country. Tory HQ keeps real conservatives out.
they are ALL WEF, loyal to Davos.
The minute it was shown that Rishi didnt even know how to use a hammer he shoulda been sacked.
Remember THEY DESPISE YOU
Its either WEF or the voters, they cant please both so whats it to be?
The Reform Party is the now the authentic voice of traditional Tory Party values and principles. As an ex Tory supporter, I’m totally fed up with the wishy washy Libdem Tory Party. It has lost my support.
The Tories can squabble amongst themselves all they like. They have forgotten one thing. Trust is gone. No-one believes a word they say. They are finished!
No No to Kemi !!
Kemi?????? Are they having a laugh 😂😂😂
Suella Braverman isn't "gobby" ( gentlemanly!), but courageous and ...right.
She was the lone, true conservative voice alone in a Cabinet of liberals.
Suella would make a fantastic pm 🙏🏼 no nonsense, common sense, and not afraid to say it as it is regardless of who gets offended
@user-hj2cr7pc8h if people are offended by a persons comments then thats just life we dont have to agree with everything that a person says. Stop being a woke idiot
@user-hj2cr7pc8hif ur offended by what another person says thats ur own problem not everyone agrees on everything thats life. Grow up and stop being woke
Forget the Tories they are too busy fighting each other vote reform
No no no Boris
People voting Conservatives cost Reform from being a strong voice in Parliament. Conservatives are finished because they have become like Labour. Vote Conservatives, then you might just as well have voted Labour.
This chap thinks that once Tories are 'back together' that they could make a come back. Does he actually think that people are going to listen and believe their lies. What really gets me, is the MP's are more concerned between 'their differences' what will keep them their jobs or win the next GE, NOT what is best for the Country, Why can they not concentrate on what is best for the Country and do it! 14 years of total failure.
Personal I don't think the Conservative get it . Vote reform party because tories are to left wing now . Nigel farage shouldn't join Conservative should be Conservative defection to reform party.
Hopefully we get pr voting system change soon .
They are hellbent on trying to convince us that being centre left is the way forwards. Its not and we wont vote for it. All we are asking for is protecting our borders, ditch WEF and spend our taxes on the infrastructure, NHS and public services and not on the 3rd world, they already get foreign aid. If they cant deliver this then its REFORM only.
It is not that the Tory Party is failing, it HAS FAILED.
Some of us have not forgotten how they treated Roger Scruton.
The question now is: How now may it be replaced?
Sunak was foisted on us from outside influence.
Ah, another one surprised,that NATO and EU in the nineties and early noughties promised Russia they would not expand towards Russia's outer borders, and then spent a decade doing exactly that until Putin,(yes hes not the greatest of people)an ex KGB agent ,with a history of dubious behaviour, realising he'd been heavily bullsh*tted by said organisations decided to react with war and violence ,and shock, horror,the total dismay that he reacted just like a dictator with a highly nationalist attitude would,and then even more dismay and anger that Nigel Farage would point out the FACTS and the glaring stupidity of our western leaders,who would have thought it......
Tell us about Putin's dubious behaviour.
No boris was pushed out, not that he would have made a difference anyway.
Sunak was a w⚓. He just showed me he hated the British and had no time for us whatsoever.
Simple they didn’t listen to what we wanted Conservative all my life past 40 years have not voted Conservative
It's dead, it just doesn't know it.
The Windsor framework. He Sunak also sold out Northern Ireland, a part of the UK.
He should be charged with treason and thrown in jail for life.
Tories are finished. A lot of us would never vote for them again.
The people voted for Boris, nobody should be able to change the elected other than the people
The Membership rejected Sunak at every leadership hustings. He was for very good reasons odious to the membership. He was however viewed as the golden boy by the party MPs.. result was to refuse support to the leaders the members wanted.. Johnson and Truss… creating a crisis they then used to over-rule the peoples choice(s) and impose Sunak.. result.. catastrophic election result.
What if he was litterally brught in as a conservative destroyer and is now going to run away?
Suella is smart and intelligent and gutsy to be a leader
Reason why Tories are annoying me, as a traditional Tory who voted reform. They, like the rest of the MSM, accuse the reform vote of being "racist". These people are not, and if you actually believed they were, why would you want their vote back and vote for you? Were the Tories full of racists previously? It's insulting and until people realize this they may start building again.
I quit the tory party because i didn't get the chance for the members vote, id never have voted sunak for leader
Reform will have 350 seats or more next time..450
Much as I would like Reform to be successful it is going to take some kind of deal with the Tories for Reform to do better.
@@aclark903. Historically a new party has to start somewhere. Watch this space.
@@aclark903- We don’t deal with Remainers thank you
Didn't they asked the same stupid question after Blair was chucked out for being a traitor ?
Henry makes a lot of sense than his party in its current form.
🌟 Conservatives adopt (word for word) the Reform UK Contract as your manifesto. Rename the Party the “Reformed Conservatives” and invite Farage to be the leader with Suella as the deputy leader. The only way the next election will be won is if the political right votes as one. “Together you stand, divided you fall”.✌️🇬🇧
Non of them indigenous, what a joke.
Indigenous? Think you want the NF, the BNP or the EDL, mate.
@@dirtycitydisco Yes please.
@@williamwallace4924 They don't exist anymore, like your views. Outdated and unwelcomed. Try standing at the till in Asda and see how well you're received.
@@dirtycitydisco Is it all immigrants work at Asda, i am more of a Marks and Spencer shopper, I’ve got good taste.
@@williamwallace4924 Bet you're great at parties.
Suella is just about the only Tory that I have any faith in. She should join Reform, because the Tories are dead in the water.
This is the first sense I've heard on a program since the election was announced we'll done
Aith reform we have 5 MPs with virtually no political experience although Farage was an MEP.
Reform did very well in the polls but I wonder what the outcome would have been if the sitting members of the Tory party had then decided to run for reform wouldxhave got them in parliament.
The thing is how many people simply didnt vote trform because 9f the lack of experience.
Suellla Braverman would be a huge asset to reform as she is on the same page and has the experience that reform could do with.
If the Tories had have looked at Australia, they could have learnt something. Both the Labor Party first, then the Liberal Party only 6 years later, dumped their first term Prime Minister in the back, and then suffered a lost election. In both cases they put in an ambitious back stabber who hadn't won an election or even proven that they could campaign and connect with people. For Labor they had to form and coalition government and then lost the next election badly. Basically the same thing happened to the Liberal Party. In both cases they had to drop those back stabbers in the next term.
No candidate was able to get through to the second round because the Tories Jerrymandered the rules so that no one could.
British British people first!!
All CORRECT
A competition between Kemi Baenoch and Suella Braverman is as inspiring as Biden v Trump. Scraping the bottom of the barrel
The conservative leader has to involve reform if they don’t it’s over for the tories
Rishi was only pm to hit diversity targets and that worked didn’t it
Do you think Henry Hill's Dad's favorite film was GOODFELLAS?
😂😂😂
Who the hell would ever vote for Traitor Tories ever again?
Sunak ! Even the gods pissed on him.
It doesn’t matter who is guilty or who is wrong or innocent, isn’t there any one who has a lovely suit and tie and capable of being the next prime minister of Great Britain, who would matches nicely and that will do nicely too.
Sunak was picked by higher ups. Truss wasn’t. Simple as that
But now we have liebour, yikes.
At least cruela speaks with conviction,kemi is just a greasy pole climber.
Suella joining Reform would be great because their policies in my opinion fit more with what Suella believes in but I wouldn’t be taking the others if I were Reform, they would end up with the infighting again because they IMO are all about themselves and not the country.
Who is this man. Henry?
Can we have a political party to represents the ethnic majority of the country.
The Conserbatives are outwoking Labour.
I was listening till he played the racist card
"It's not someone else's fault", as she blames everyone else. How she kept her seat is baffling
Kemi should join reform she is wasted with the wet woke cons
No chance. When she was Secretary of State she refused to remove EU laws from this countries statutory books
Any chance of an indigenous pm
God can you not see them or the Farage lot if they been half good they be in power
I do not like kemi. She does not have the knowledge of politics.
She does not have the intelligence or personality
Jessa, so you are to blame for Blair.
Politics over the last 15 years accross the spectrum has lurched to the left. For many issues this has been a positive. However, on tax, crime, law and order, social cohesion, this has caused angst. The tories however now shouldnt lurch to the right, but find there roots again and find the centre right or the very least centre centre right. Lower taxes, tougher on crime, law and order, reduce migration, but more importantly VET migration so we control the standard of people coming here.
Sunak's personal political instincts are of bossy interference in people's life, making people do what he thinks is good for them. I don't even think his opposition to the Covid policies was actually about his beliefs, I think that was just the Treasury line on the costs being expressed. Personally I think he was a decent man who wanted to serve his country, but he was just rubbish at politics. He was actually pretty bad in the leadership election, Truss was poor but she at least had a plan, a bad plan it turned out, but he offered nothing but a steady hand on the tiller. He showed in that contest why he wouldn't win an election, and MPs were fools to put him before the members, we can be pretty sure they engineered things to make sure it was Truss in there with him as the easiest opponant for him to beat.
more Tory rubbish
Slightly controversial but look at that thumbnail, can you take that lineup seriously when it comes to immigration? Maybe it’s better because they can tackle these situations without race being a main talking point but realistically the optics of it don’t add up.
What 😂 you couldn't make it up 😂
Miriam Cates was the only tory i felt sorry for
I laughed when she went! 🤣👍
@@dirtycitydisco glad it made you happy! 😃
Why? She could have defected. Sure she said some good stuff. She still stood with the badge of a traitor.
Slippery character.
Reform UK appeals to the traditional BNP voter.
And liebour appeals to the monster raving looney party voter.
oooh that's frightening IF true! you forgot to say deplorables and thick. Just Brits using their God given right to vote. We are not in China yet.
If Kemi becomes the new leader, then I’m all in favor of a merger with Reform
Deluded
Only with Nigel for leader with guarantee he cannot be removed or replaced
Kemi won't last five minutes with the Tories.
@@SAS-vx1jk That's anti-democratic. Oh, wait, sounds these people all over...
@@SAS-vx1jk 🤣🤣🤣🤣 deluded
Reform youth. slick back 40’s haircuts with Arm bands.
You can take the Farage outta Russia but you cant take the Russia outta Farage…!!
Vote reform