One of the greatest and well-detailed videos about Trifoliata I could find in RUclips. This is very very nice! Much thanks. I am also into trifoliatas and many other Cold Hardy Citruses. Have a great end of the year!
I have this tree. But I did not plant it purposefully. When I moved to where I now live (USDA hardiness zone 8b), I planted a Meyer lemon tree. After the first winter, I noticed that the tree’s appearance seemed to have changed, but I did not understand, until a couple of more years had past, that I was not looking at a Meyer lemon tree anymore. That part had died back. The rootstock had taken over, and it had grown vigorously. Now, some 10 to 12 years later, I have a 15 to 20 ft trifoliate orange tree that has finally set fruit. I see dozens of oranges mainly at the top of the tree. I am excited to try them once they ripen. And I am glad my husband did not get around to cutting the tree down when I asked him to a few years ago.
I planted a flying dragon tree two years ago because it's the only citrus that will grow in Kansas, USA. Now for the first time it's flowering. I'm excited to see if it gets actual fruits on it this year. It is still quite a small tree. My grandson loves it because at the very end of the first year quickly grew a huge three foot spike straight up that if you push over sideways looks just like a Chinese dragon. Until it did that at the end of the first season I never knew why it was nicknamed flying dragon tree!
I'm in zone 6 and I've been going back and forth about whether to plant one of these in my small backyard food forest. I think I'm going to give it a shot. I think it'd be good to use the juice to add to home canned goods to increase the acidity the way you would use lemon juice.
I've heard that alcohol gets off the wax and that the fruit yields more juice if you store it for two weeks after picking. I also think it's quite good, just sour 🤔 I wonder if it causes stomach upset if you eat them in any larger quantity. Otherwise I don't understand why the literature is so negative regarding the fruit.
@med icine well, i would recommend it to everyone who lives in a temperate climate and likes to make lemonade or to use lemon rind. I never planted it mysef because i know enough parks where i can pick it.
@@allthefruit the lemonade from this fruit makes high. It contains probably Synephrine, which is similar to ephedrine or adrenalin. You can use the juice and you can cook the peel out. Mixed with soda water it makes a good drink.
This video inspired me to grow this plant. I'm actually looking for a "Poncirus+" cultivar which is missing the bitter part people in the US dislikes about this fruit. This cultivar was discovered in Europe so I wonder if the poncirus you found here is the bitter-less type?
I have not heard of a "Poncirus+" cultivar. However I think that Poncirus is sometimes crossed with (normal, sweet) Orange and the resulting seedlings are called "Citrange" and it's used as a rootstock for Oranges in Australia. It also has a 3 part leaf, although the centre part of the leaf is noticeably larger. I think it maintains the evergreen habit of the Sweet Orange.
@@KiwiCatherineJemma I've heard of citranges and they are described as being bitter with off flavors inherited from crossing with Poncirus. I'm not sure if this link will work but it contains a forum post discussion about Poncirus+ citrusgrowersv2.proboards.com/thread/450/poncirus
@@raregrowsNJ Several folks have made reference to a greater amount of plant breeding and deliberate hybridisation which has happened, especially regarding edible plants, in the last 100 years. Something which I know has been done with regard to various Palm Trees and Cycad species, especially those that have male and female flowers, or cones, on separate plants, is that pollen can survive being frozen and used months or years later. Obviously this has only occurred since reliable deep freeze refrigeration (minus 18 Celsius) has been available... in the last 50 to 100 years for the average domestic family home. In some cases, closely related species of plants, growing near each other, NEVER hybridised naturally because they flowered at different times. Storing (male) pollen in the freezer of one variety, has meant that humans can therefore do cross pollination (with a different but related variety) that would not normally occur in nature (because one plant flowers in Spring and the other flowers in Autumn, for example). Although I have not heard of this happening specifically with Citrus and Poncirus varieties, given that we known they can cross pollinate and give hybrids with characteristics intermediate of both parents, suggest this may be worth a try, especially for home gardeners or other experimental growers with greenhouses in Europe etc. Come on folks, let's get into this and see what amazing and useful Citrus/Poncirus hybrids we can come up with in the next hundred years. And we haven't even mentioned known examples of Plant Chimaera ! The "Bizarro" Orange has been grown since occurring in Italy by accident about 400 years ago. Very very very occasionally, a grafted Citrus tree, will send up a bud from right on the boundary of the established graft union. The resultant growth can under those circumstances therefore include DNA material from 2 different plants combined and growing as one plant but with 2 different DNAs. The academic text book "Principles and Practices of Plant Propagation", By Hartmann, Kester and Davies, has a description and photos of several plant chimaera known to exist.
@@KiwiCatherineJemma Very fascinating! Funny that you mention a chimaera, there exists a poncirus and satsuma chimera sold in europe known as a Citsuma Prague! Its poncirus cells allow it to be very cold hardy but its mandarin cells put out fruit that is mandarin quality without any trace of poncirus bitterness or sour in it
I have a bitterless type of poncirus with giant size fruits. Itt is called "bácskai óriás" from hungarian part of Serbia. Instead of golf ball size fruits,it has almost tennis ball size fruits. Mine is not fruiting yet, but this variety exist.
@@rafaelramos441 nice! I didn’t know that but it make sense they would have a dwarf variety. Once I get some land, I want to get some to grow as a perimeter boundary/ living fence for security.
Is the fruit like bergamot? I observed many weird citrus species in SEA, many not desireable to eat but very good smelling, usable for your hair to remove dandruff or make tea
@@allthefruit Fruit is preceded by flowers, flowers are proceeded by flower buds formed in the previous early summer. Refraining from pruning the tree is helpful
Nice video :) I do believe it is a Citrus or should be in the Citrus genus, because Citrus fruits are unique within the plant kingdom. These fruits look exactly like any other Citrus fruit in it's composition, in it's fragrance and taste.. it has segments, and the seeds are undeniably Citrus like. If you look at plants in Rosaceae for example, you have many plants in Rosaceae.. from Strawberry to Plum.. but they have hugely different fruits. If you ask the average person to identify the fruit here if you cut in half, people would say orange or lemon, so in my mind it should be Citrus trifoliata, rather than Poncirus trifoliata. It's ok to have deciduous Citrus, just as it's ok to have deciduous Oak (Quercus robur) just as it's normal to have evergreen oak (Quercus ilex), but different because of climate only. But it's nice to see this fruit has its uses.. I always grew up thinking this was a weedy, useless plant, but I'm starting to change my mind.
I am happy you are changing your mind. Their practical value outweighs a lot of other plants, especially if you want to grow other citrus in most of the global north.
No! 😄 The Rosaceae are a group with a family status, the Rosa are the genus and subgenus name of the Roses - so, there is no Strawberry or Plum in this genus, where the real Roses are located botanically. What you do compare in a wrong way, is simply a variability in the plants of the family of the Rosaceae with that one in a genus like Citrus. Rutaceae is the family of genus Citrus and, if existing, Poncirus -, and in the Rutaceae, there is as much further variability, at least enough to be comparable to that in the Rosaceae! E.g., compare Bergera koenigii with Dictamnus albus and Ruta graveolens.
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Speaking as a person that has about 40 of these trees and has made videos about them, this is the best video I have seen about Poncirus Trifoliata.
Thank you
You need a larger audience. Great vid! Subscribing
Thank you
One of the greatest and well-detailed videos about Trifoliata I could find in RUclips. This is very very nice! Much thanks. I am also into trifoliatas and many other Cold Hardy Citruses. Have a great end of the year!
Thank you. Which cold hardy citruses do you grow?
I have this tree. But I did not plant it purposefully. When I moved to where I now live (USDA hardiness zone 8b), I planted a Meyer lemon tree. After the first winter, I noticed that the tree’s appearance seemed to have changed, but I did not understand, until a couple of more years had past, that I was not looking at a Meyer lemon tree anymore. That part had died back. The rootstock had taken over, and it had grown vigorously. Now, some 10 to 12 years later, I have a 15 to 20 ft trifoliate orange tree that has finally set fruit. I see dozens of oranges mainly at the top of the tree. I am excited to try them once they ripen. And I am glad my husband did not get around to cutting the tree down when I asked him to a few years ago.
Wow. 20 ft. We do not have such big ones in Germany. Beware the rind is waxy like a candle. Do not use your favorite bowls, cups, etc with it
@@allthefruit
Thanks for reminding me. I will certainly be careful about what utensils I use when I cut the fruit.
Excellent video packed with great information!
One of the loveliest videos I have seen in years.
Thank you
I attend Oklahoma State University. I collected a bunch of these recently. They grow the flying dragon cultivar which is the more hedge-like variety.
Nice
Great video. Still waiting to get fruit from mine in England but this makes me even keener to try it when I do. Keep up the good work
Thank you. Good luck with your fruit
I planted a flying dragon tree two years ago because it's the only citrus that will grow in Kansas, USA. Now for the first time it's flowering. I'm excited to see if it gets actual fruits on it this year. It is still quite a small tree. My grandson loves it because at the very end of the first year quickly grew a huge three foot spike straight up that if you push over sideways looks just like a Chinese dragon. Until it did that at the end of the first season I never knew why it was nicknamed flying dragon tree!
Its so great to have at least one citrus for cold areas. Maybe he csn make a lemonade stand with the fruits juice 😁
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I'm in zone 6 and I've been going back and forth about whether to plant one of these in my small backyard food forest. I think I'm going to give it a shot. I think it'd be good to use the juice to add to home canned goods to increase the acidity the way you would use lemon juice.
Good luck. It could work in a sheltered spot
I have a few of them in Cincinnati zone 6b
Great information! Thanks from Atlanta , Georgia!
You are welcome
Brilliant lots of information, thanks so much for the vid
You are welcome
Thank you--comprehensive, excellent video!
You are welcome
I've heard that alcohol gets off the wax and that the fruit yields more juice if you store it for two weeks after picking. I also think it's quite good, just sour 🤔
I wonder if it causes stomach upset if you eat them in any larger quantity. Otherwise I don't understand why the literature is so negative regarding the fruit.
I never tried but sounds intriguing.
@med icine well, i would recommend it to everyone who lives in a temperate climate and likes to make lemonade or to use lemon rind. I never planted it mysef because i know enough parks where i can pick it.
@@allthefruit the lemonade from this fruit makes high. It contains probably Synephrine, which is similar to ephedrine or adrenalin. You can use the juice and you can cook the peel out. Mixed with soda water it makes a good drink.
@@sabrinawolf3595 stoners taking notes😆
Growing one first year its fruiting zone 7a south jersey
Nice. Good luck
This video inspired me to grow this plant. I'm actually looking for a "Poncirus+" cultivar which is missing the bitter part people in the US dislikes about this fruit. This cultivar was discovered in Europe so I wonder if the poncirus you found here is the bitter-less type?
I have not heard of a "Poncirus+" cultivar. However I think that Poncirus is sometimes crossed with (normal, sweet) Orange and the resulting seedlings are called "Citrange" and it's used as a rootstock for Oranges in Australia. It also has a 3 part leaf, although the centre part of the leaf is noticeably larger. I think it maintains the evergreen habit of the Sweet Orange.
@@KiwiCatherineJemma I've heard of citranges and they are described as being bitter with off flavors inherited from crossing with Poncirus. I'm not sure if this link will work but it contains a forum post discussion about Poncirus+ citrusgrowersv2.proboards.com/thread/450/poncirus
@@raregrowsNJ Several folks have made reference to a greater amount of plant breeding and deliberate hybridisation which has happened, especially regarding edible plants, in the last 100 years.
Something which I know has been done with regard to various Palm Trees and Cycad species, especially those that have male and female flowers, or cones, on separate plants, is that pollen can survive being frozen and used months or years later. Obviously this has only occurred since reliable deep freeze refrigeration (minus 18 Celsius) has been available... in the last 50 to 100 years for the average domestic family home.
In some cases, closely related species of plants, growing near each other, NEVER hybridised naturally because they flowered at different times. Storing (male) pollen in the freezer of one variety, has meant that humans can therefore do cross pollination (with a different but related variety) that would not normally occur in nature (because one plant flowers in Spring and the other flowers in Autumn, for example).
Although I have not heard of this happening specifically with Citrus and Poncirus varieties, given that we known they can cross pollinate and give hybrids with characteristics intermediate of both parents, suggest this may be worth a try, especially for home gardeners or other experimental growers with greenhouses in Europe etc.
Come on folks, let's get into this and see what amazing and useful Citrus/Poncirus hybrids we can come up with in the next hundred years.
And we haven't even mentioned known examples of Plant Chimaera ! The "Bizarro" Orange has been grown since occurring in Italy by accident about 400 years ago. Very very very occasionally, a grafted Citrus tree, will send up a bud from right on the boundary of the established graft union. The resultant growth can under those circumstances therefore include DNA material from 2 different plants combined and growing as one plant but with 2 different DNAs.
The academic text book "Principles and Practices of Plant Propagation", By Hartmann, Kester and Davies, has a description and photos of several plant chimaera known to exist.
@@KiwiCatherineJemma Very fascinating! Funny that you mention a chimaera, there exists a poncirus and satsuma chimera sold in europe known as a Citsuma Prague! Its poncirus cells allow it to be very cold hardy but its mandarin cells put out fruit that is mandarin quality without any trace of poncirus bitterness or sour in it
I have a bitterless type of poncirus with giant size fruits. Itt is called "bácskai óriás" from hungarian part of Serbia. Instead of golf ball size fruits,it has almost tennis ball size fruits. Mine is not fruiting yet, but this variety exist.
These are flying dragon orange/flying dragon lemon trees. They call them that because of the thorns that look to be around 3” or so in length.
Yes
Flying Dragon is the dwarf contorted cultivar of this species.
@@rafaelramos441 nice! I didn’t know that but it make sense they would have a dwarf variety. Once I get some land, I want to get some to grow as a perimeter boundary/ living fence for security.
Is the fruit like bergamot?
I observed many weird citrus species in SEA, many not desireable to eat but very good smelling, usable for your hair to remove dandruff or make tea
The smell is more pungent. Strange, i find the same Citrus types everywhere here. The biggest diversity are the limau purut hybrids
Wow, good job! Can I order seeds from you?
My mothers friend from Germany gave her a plant...I still have one without oranges so far.. unique.
Hope you will use them once it grows some
I have a hardy 7 feet Chinese Orange in my "Zone 5" yard in Pennsylvania!!
Wow, thats amazing
@@allthefruit the tree is very healthy...but no fruit yet...any suggestions/tips
@@allthefruit Fruit is preceded by flowers, flowers are proceeded by flower buds formed in the previous early summer. Refraining from pruning the tree is helpful
@@rafaelramos441 they mostly do not prune them here
wait for it to flower then figure out which one is mail and female then hand pollinate! hey man put up a video!
"100% student proof" 😂🤣
The oppinion of a respected university
can you use it's thorns as toothpicks?
I guess
Yes, I did, with some care.
Also good for picking dirt out of cellphone charge ports!
Nice video :) I do believe it is a Citrus or should be in the Citrus genus, because Citrus fruits are unique within the plant kingdom. These fruits look exactly like any other Citrus fruit in it's composition, in it's fragrance and taste.. it has segments, and the seeds are undeniably Citrus like. If you look at plants in Rosaceae for example, you have many plants in Rosaceae.. from Strawberry to Plum.. but they have hugely different fruits. If you ask the average person to identify the fruit here if you cut in half, people would say orange or lemon, so in my mind it should be Citrus trifoliata, rather than Poncirus trifoliata.
It's ok to have deciduous Citrus, just as it's ok to have deciduous Oak (Quercus robur) just as it's normal to have evergreen oak (Quercus ilex), but different because of climate only.
But it's nice to see this fruit has its uses.. I always grew up thinking this was a weedy, useless plant, but I'm starting to change my mind.
Yes, many consider it a citrus, other make it into its own genus. I think it does not matter much as long as we know what plant we are talking about
Citrus trifoliata is accepted alternative Latin binormal nomenclature for this plant.
I am happy you are changing your mind. Their practical value outweighs a lot of other plants, especially if you want to grow other citrus in most of the global north.
No! 😄 The Rosaceae are a group with a family status, the Rosa are the genus and subgenus name of the Roses - so, there is no Strawberry or Plum in this genus, where the real Roses are located botanically. What you do compare in a wrong way, is simply a variability in the plants of the family of the Rosaceae with that one in a genus like Citrus. Rutaceae is the family of genus Citrus and, if existing, Poncirus -, and in the Rutaceae, there is as much further variability, at least enough to be comparable to that in the Rosaceae! E.g., compare Bergera koenigii with Dictamnus albus and Ruta graveolens.
Very nice! 😃💗
Thank you
Good lord, look at those nails!!!!!!! I wouldn't want to get stuck in that tree LOL
One of the best natural barbed wires
Can you send me one or two fruits of Poncirus trifoliata, i will pay for transport, thank you in advance?
Where do you live?
@@allthefruit Poland, my e mail is miagy420 at gmail dot com, or you can give me your email
@@allthefruit can you give me your e-mail so we can talk?
Right now i have no access to this fruit. Ill write if i get some.
@@allthefruit thank you verry much, i just started to look into citruses and i find this species verry interesting.
they should be used in reforestation projects.
Too spiny😂
His accent 😍😂
You like it? 😉
wunderbar
Ja
There's a better tasting selection available in Europe named Poncirus+. It apparently originated in Ukraine.
Great, i will ask some Ukrainian farmers.
In Germany they see it just as an ornamental.
@@allthefruit, Tropical Fruit Growers Forum may be able to assist you.
You don't sound like you're german though. More like Eastern European :))
Corrrrrrrect
i cant stand stinglish 😂
Which way do you stand then?