This Charming Band: The Smiths Twisted History

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  • Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024

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  • @rocdocs
    @rocdocs  Год назад +5

    Watch now: David J Interview re: hanging out with Bowie on the set of The Hunger ruclips.net/video/Xus4kgkM01c/видео.html

  • @Amber_xo_133
    @Amber_xo_133 4 месяца назад +18

    RIP Andy Rourke🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

  • @amitcohen3034
    @amitcohen3034 10 месяцев назад +17

    What amazing in this story is the fact that people who do not consider themselves as friends can make such a good music together.

    • @rocdocs
      @rocdocs  10 месяцев назад +4

      They must have at one point just gelled completely, seems - but yeah they drifted apart so quickly and drastically! Ever see the “moz steals marrs bike” bit on Portlandia? So good

  • @ThatGuy-ky2yf
    @ThatGuy-ky2yf Год назад +21

    RIP Andy Rourke

    • @rocdocs
      @rocdocs  Год назад +4

      Totally. He was a great bass player and seemed like a nice guy too.

  • @ecfan-addict9477
    @ecfan-addict9477 Год назад +36

    Of the copious letters that Morrissey wrote to the music papers when he was young, one became unintentionally hilarious: in response to their cover of Bowie's "John I'm Only Dancing" he said that if the Polecats had any imagination, they would shoot themselves. Polecats guitarist Boz Boorer later became Morrissey's longest-running collaborator and musical director.

    • @rocdocs
      @rocdocs  Год назад +5

      Haha awesome story!! Thanks Ec!

  • @rocdocs
    @rocdocs  Год назад +12

    I love that I call Moz a "music singer.' WTF does that even mean. I had to leave it in!

    • @AtZero138
      @AtZero138 5 месяцев назад +1

      Hahaha.. could be worse...
      They get called "Goth" now... Music Singer.
      We can agree, less offense..

  • @TyrellBonneymusic
    @TyrellBonneymusic 11 месяцев назад +6

    Best video about the smiths and so in depth. You’ve done your homework Dennis great job!

    • @rocdocs
      @rocdocs  11 месяцев назад +1

      Tyrell thank you so much! Appreciate you stopping by and the kind comment!

  • @jacksampsonforever
    @jacksampsonforever Год назад +15

    Dennis, I don't want to resort to hyperbole, but these docs are masterpieces. I have to keep pausing and rewinding them to take in all the fact you present! And you break it up with humor and cool artwork. A real treat for a music history nut like myself.

    • @rocdocs
      @rocdocs  Год назад +4

      Jack - this means the world to me, seriously. Thank you!

    • @jacksampsonforever
      @jacksampsonforever Год назад +5

      @@rocdocs Thank YOU. And, since I always leave you with trivia: the song "A Rush and a Push and the Land is Ours" isn't about British colonialism, it's about the Irish retaking their land from the Engish.

    • @countrymousejewelry
      @countrymousejewelry 5 месяцев назад +2

      Same!!!!! Last night I was wstching the cramps doc n I was rewinding n rewatching all night long! I couldn't stay awake n I was driving my bf crazy dropping my phone etc❤😅❤what can I say I'm stubborn i guess

  • @angelofradness
    @angelofradness Месяц назад +1

    Great documentary with really nice graphics! Such an amazing band ❤

    • @rocdocs
      @rocdocs  Месяц назад

      Thanks Lucy! Check the Robert smith vid!

  • @MichaelLuke-w6p
    @MichaelLuke-w6p 4 месяца назад +8

    Morrissey and Marr were God's! Rourke and joyce were the greatest rhythm section in modern music💔i still haven't got over the break up, there will NEVER be another band like them 🥰

  • @samajax
    @samajax 6 месяцев назад +2

    Funky Si lucked out, his main front man turned out to be Mark E. Smith. His drums were perfect when blended with The Fall.

  • @wavelengthrecords-1
    @wavelengthrecords-1 8 месяцев назад +4

    Kirsty Maccoll did not sing on Big Mouth Strikes Again. She sang background vocals on Ask and Golden Lights.

    • @rocdocs
      @rocdocs  8 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you for the correction.

    • @MichaelLuke-w6p
      @MichaelLuke-w6p 4 месяца назад +1

      it was Morrissey himself, Kirsty also Sang on Morrissey's single oujia board😮

    • @wavelengthrecords-1
      @wavelengthrecords-1 4 месяца назад +1

      @@MichaelLuke-w6p Yep, and I'll do you one better. It was Moz's voice fed thru an Eventide harmonizer which pitched his vocal up to sound like the female soul singers of his favorite 50s and 60s songs. Credited on the album as "backing vocals by Ann Coates" which is a cheeky reference to an area of the Smiths hometown of Manchester called Ancoats.

    • @davidells6760
      @davidells6760 Месяц назад

      ‘Ann Coats’

  • @imsorryforarguingbut4555
    @imsorryforarguingbut4555 6 месяцев назад +2

    lovely video, you went into an impressive amount of depth here. must have taken a lot of research :)

    • @rocdocs
      @rocdocs  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you!

  • @Mongo42089
    @Mongo42089 6 месяцев назад +3

    I kept switching over to relive all the songs listed that I had forgotten or just wanted to hear again. And if there's anything I relearned today, it's just how much I never truly appreciated Andy Rourke's badass basslines.

    • @rocdocs
      @rocdocs  6 месяцев назад +1

      They really are special. When you go back and listen- they were closely aligned with Marr and they were essential to each other

  • @dennishough3709
    @dennishough3709 Год назад +3

    Yes!!
    Among my favorite bands!!
    Thank you,

    • @rocdocs
      @rocdocs  Год назад +3

      Mine too! Thanks for being the first comment and one of the first views!

    • @rocdocs
      @rocdocs  Год назад +1

      Are you going to see Moz on tour?

  • @skeeterd5150
    @skeeterd5150 Год назад +4

    I read fletchers book. Quite the tome . With that book as a reference I’m surprised you only kept this to 33 minutes.

    • @rocdocs
      @rocdocs  Год назад +3

      It was a main source, also moz and Marr autobiographies. You are so right- there was a ton that I omitted! Tried to get the main events and interesting bits and include some details about each record. Thanks for watching and commenting !

  • @spillyjane
    @spillyjane Год назад +2

    Great doc, Dennis!!

    • @rocdocs
      @rocdocs  Год назад +3

      Thank you kindly, Miss Jane!

  • @patronsaintofhorses1747
    @patronsaintofhorses1747 5 месяцев назад +2

    My mum bought me T Rex's first album when I was 3 as I apparently sang Telegram Sam constantly and I begged her to call my younger brother Marc which she did. To know Johnny had the same taste as me makes me feel...fantastic. He's my ultimate guitar hero.

    • @rocdocs
      @rocdocs  5 месяцев назад +1

      Very cool story

  • @qibble455
    @qibble455 Год назад +2

    Great stuff. Rock on Dennis:)

    • @rocdocs
      @rocdocs  Год назад +2

      Thanks Qibble! Appreciated!

  • @mrgainz1344
    @mrgainz1344 4 месяца назад +3

    The most original band! The best lyrics the best unique sound!

    • @rocdocs
      @rocdocs  4 месяца назад

      Right on! Thanks gainz for watching

  • @Colin-ro6lh
    @Colin-ro6lh 2 месяца назад +2

    Good documentry the Smiths were a good indie band(indie scene inc bands like Soup Dragons/Happy Mondays etc) how kids nowadays have ever connected them to Goth or post punk i will never know most stupid funny idea

    • @rocdocs
      @rocdocs  Месяц назад

      Thank you!!🙏

  • @GoldAmple
    @GoldAmple 11 месяцев назад +4

    Will you do a video such as this for The Cure?

    • @rocdocs
      @rocdocs  11 месяцев назад +3

      Hi gold! I just did one on Robert smith and siouxsie- seems like there would be a lot of overlap there. Did you see that one?

  • @audiolego
    @audiolego Год назад +4

    And the. Joyce and Rourke was in the last of the international playboys video. Almost a reuniom

    • @rocdocs
      @rocdocs  Год назад +1

      Almost! That’s one of the last things mentioned in the video, coincidentally! Thanks for watching and commenting

    • @audiolego
      @audiolego Год назад +5

      @@rocdocsI'm getting into the Morrissey albums like Your Arsenal and Bona Drag albums these days. I'll be ordering those cds tomorrow and get the others as well later. I'm a Smiths fan but during Morrissey early years, I got into the Rave Techno genre(89-92) . I didn't appreciate Moz even though my friend Joey was so idolizing him. Now I'm liking and appreciating those records.

    • @ThatGuy-ky2yf
      @ThatGuy-ky2yf Год назад +3

      @@audiolego Viva Hate, Your Arsenal, Vauxhall & I and You are the Quarry are all fantastic. Morrissey can be a confusing man but he largely resonated on those works imo.

    • @audiolego
      @audiolego Год назад +2

      @@ThatGuy-ky2yf there's a video of him doing a studio session and nailing it every time .

    • @rocdocs
      @rocdocs  Год назад +2

      @@audiolego I also stepped away after the Viva Hate - Interesting Drug period (which I love)! Returning to hear more of his work that I missed really is a joy. I dont love every thing he says but I do still enjoy his music! And of course, the Smiths are a moment of musical magic.

  • @countrymousejewelry
    @countrymousejewelry 5 месяцев назад +3

    Now I can find out why the 19 yr old bf of my daughter thinks they are the best band ever..as a musician myself i wonder why people like what they like. I just duscovered yhese docus last night and theyre $0ooooooofrickin good!!!! A Morrissey gronted version of the Clash lmao

    • @rocdocs
      @rocdocs  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you Rebecca!!! I really appreciate that!!!

  • @starrsparkle-wz7qd
    @starrsparkle-wz7qd 6 месяцев назад +2

    I LOVED THIS VIDEO SO MUCH AHHHSHSBSNS

    • @rocdocs
      @rocdocs  5 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you!

  • @countrymousejewelry
    @countrymousejewelry 5 месяцев назад +2

    Hi, have you done anything on Nina Haagen? Id love to see that. Omg i can think of so many id love to see you cover❤also wendy 0 and the Plasmatics..

    • @rocdocs
      @rocdocs  5 месяцев назад

      “CBGB’s video ( part 2) touches on the plasmTics!

  • @Colin-ro6lh
    @Colin-ro6lh 2 месяца назад +4

    You can see why the Smiths had a young gay male following

    • @rocdocs
      @rocdocs  Месяц назад +1

      Yeah it’s not surprising! Lol

  • @cobra5088
    @cobra5088 7 месяцев назад +1

    Enjoyed the documentary! I always thought the smoking woman on the louder than bombs cover was a homeless woman..lol. For whatever reason I always associated her with the song shoplifters of the world unite. I thought being homeless she's probably stealing food for survival..lol

    • @rocdocs
      @rocdocs  7 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks 🙏 appreciate the kind words. It’s funny the impression album covers give isn’t it?

  • @greatshakinfever2009
    @greatshakinfever2009 3 месяца назад +1

    No reference to the obvious influence of Rockabilly, The Cramps and even goth music. But very good documentary.

    • @rocdocs
      @rocdocs  3 месяца назад

      Thanks. I tried!

  • @areamusicale
    @areamusicale Год назад +3

    HIHIHI! ... I am a vegetarian too, but I hardly even told my friends! Infact I did all the opposite: with my rock band we used to take the p1ss on vegans ... my point of view was: if you like meat eat it, don't pretend you don't want to! I never liked meat and so I stopped eating it. Simple as that!

  • @TractorBeam
    @TractorBeam 27 дней назад

    geoff Travis

  • @MalMotorDedo
    @MalMotorDedo Месяц назад

    Damn, i knew Morrissey was weirdly but firmly gay, on the other hand, i didn't know Johnny was kinda gay too (i know, he had a gf, but some of the words he uses in the book just sound like they were in love).

  • @sexobscura
    @sexobscura 6 месяцев назад +1

    *I HATE*
    *THE SMITHS*

    • @rocdocs
      @rocdocs  6 месяцев назад +2

      It’s ok! :)

    • @MichaelLuke-w6p
      @MichaelLuke-w6p 4 месяца назад +2

      A bit of the top😮 hate is a bit strong❤😊

    • @sexobscura
      @sexobscura 4 месяца назад

      @@MichaelLuke-w6p
      though not strong enough