I was taught by my Mom & her Mom ... My maternal Grandmother who was born in 1907 to *always pay my bills first* & that advice has served me well ... my Mom is just short of 82 years old & still drives & does all she is able to do
My mother married a wealthy older man when we were kids and he was a miser, She had to go out to work to buy clothes for us kids. Or to save up and buy things she wanted. He had plenty of money to spend on himself and we found out years later that he had been going to gay brothels and paying big money to young rent boys. He also drove nice cars while mum had an old dunga to drive us kids around. Mum died of cancer at age 57 and that old bugger aged 77 went on spending sprees the likes of which we had never seen before - $60,000 in cash to one rent boy alone, who used to abuse and beat the old bugger up.
Yep! We have 700 Billionaires, in our country who are not paying taxes! No wonder our infrasttucture of bridges, sewers and roads are unkept and over 100 years old! 🙄 And I have not mentioned the Millionaires; and middle class and people with lower paying jobs, who most do pay their taxes quarterly or in-full! At least we do pay! We may not like it but, someone has to! Peace.. ✌ ☮ 🕊
I dont see anything wrong with being frugal, but if you can't pay for your child to see a doctor, despite being able to easily afford it, then something is wrong.
Nor bathe, her stinky self or have heat in her house with running hot water! What kind of budgeting was she doing? Money is only valuable when it is spent! Not at once, but only used for good! 🧐
@@Chutney1luv During the time indoor plumbing wasn't really a thing. Unless you were wealthy. Regardless if you had the money you could take a hot bath. Your comment really jives with me cause I know my self that a hot bath or a shower is absolute little bit of heaven. I can not imagine not take one.
@@adamogilvie6951 I can't imagine not taking a bath or shower on a daily basis! I've gone camping and a day without a shower is itchy! The skin gets weird and wipes only help a little bit! Regardless, she had no excuse, in the free world because running hot water was in her home!
According to "The Richest Woman In America" by Janet Wallach, Ned Green was not a child when he lost his leg. I believe he was closer to his mid-40's. Ned had the bad luck of being involved in several accidents in his life, all of which damaged the same leg. Eventually, his doctor told him it was too messed up to save. But Ned had been lame for so long that losing his bum leg wasn't even traumatic. At least that is how Ms. Wallach portrayed it.
Your thorough research, calming and pleasantly proper English intonation, and your video images make you one of my favorite historical/ mystery RUclipsrs. Many thanks, Forgotten Lives! I look forward to even more great videos and historical information from you in 2022.
And this was when a million $ meant something! 😳 Just about a perfect surname "Green"! Problem is, only people who are already wealthy can hold onto anything of whatever value until the perfect moment to sell🤷🏻♀️
Sad fact: Hetty had a paranoia about been murdered.She suspected her aunt & her father were murdered.She believed the same were after her.She lived in constant fear.
Funny, the first thing that popped into my head when I heard father and aunt died within a short space of time, leaving her a fortune each, was that she did it. Too much murder p0rn on RUclips for me! 😆
There's no excuse for leaving others to suffer in agony. We should all try to do what we can for others in need. Still times ARE getting tougher. We all need to be smart about spending and saving money. The reason you see so many new cars parked at the dollar stores and thrift stores is because those people learned how to manage money properly.
I remember reading a bio on her and thinking how HAPPY I was for her son after all she had done to him and the family spending the money as they should and living their life. I still wonder if all of her stinginess was something she truly could look back on without regret.
Lawd here it go forgotten lives one of the best videos on you tube cause you go way back and a lil history on the side makes me happy I wasn't around in them days them old days were scary
There needs to be a mental health diagnosis for extreme stinginess. There are people like her (extreme stinginess without a need for it) who display the same issues (symptoms) Hetty had with the other aspects of her life, including dressing like a homeless person, lack of decent grooming, mistrust, manipulation, disrespect and contempt towards others in general, lack of empathy and the extreme length they’re willing to go to not pay anything. It truly is a disorder of some sort and it needs to be recognized as such. Living with someone like that is not only toxic but dangerous, it literally destroys lives of those who depend on them (it cost her son a leg, too).
I love this lady, she would only have the bottom of her dress cleaned. maybe you can do some videos of these amazing forgotten rich ladies- hugette Clark, Barbara Hutton, Doris duke, Florence Vanderbilt twombly, Gertrude Vanderbilt Whitney
While you are correct that not all people who are wealthy under a capitalist society earn their money, you could probably even say that most don't and people would be hard pressed to argue with you. It is the only system that someone who is born wealthy and does work hard can become wealthy. In socialism or a cast society, ALL who are wealthy are born that way and no matter what a less fortunate person does and no matter how hard they work, they can NEVER become wealthy. Even the very few in Russia or China who have worked hard and become wealthy from a meager beginning have had what they made taken from them by the state, before or after they were disappeared.
Tje people who built the fortune worked hard for it. It doesnt mens that when the kids inherit it, that anyone has the right to take it from them. The thing about this country and capitalism is that the little guy has the freedom to rise to the top rather th as n a class system. Social and economic mobility. Check out how many people amass wealth and then lose it all dying in poverty. There are alot of those stories
I read about her years ago. She was so cheap she'd stuff her clothes with newspaper rather than purchase warm woolen clothing. In that era, many people didn't bathe--in fact, some quacks believed frequent bathing might be unhealthy which we might also understand given the drafty dwellings where bathing in frigid weather with little to no heat could result in colds, or pneumonia. One could understand poor ignorant people doing some of the things she did but she was wealthy and certainly sophisticated enough to know better.
I was so impressed with this show I don't know it's just strange how someone who was a Quaker could not want to help other folks and had that much money to do it obviously she didn't care about her religion
i had an aunt who took back her daughters wedding shoes back and sat in the shop all day until the owner gave her the money back just to get rid of her lol ,being mean to the point of neglect is another thing
Giiiiiirrrrlllll No no no no.... i was with you until the uncleanliness/body odor. And lettin your own child go through preventable health issues. No ma'am. How sad.... to have such wealth and live with a spirit of lack like that....
I met people like her, not billionaires but extremely wealthy, and one of them lives in the village I live. She too has poor hygiene (or lack thereof) not to pay water bills - and good luck to those who get close to her - never uses heating in winter, and rummages through garbage for clothes or other things that might be "very useful" 🤢 Luckily, the NHS in my country is free for everybody so none of the misers I met let their children's limbs rot.
Related to Hetty, Howland family in New Bedford. The entire family were pretty miserable. My great grandmother was disowned by the family. Lots of mental health issues within the entire family.
Hetty Green always remembered the whaling ships which were the first foundation of her family fortune. In later years she had the last of the wooden whalers, the Charles W. Morgan brought to her estate at Round Hill. Here is a video of the ship as she was at that time. ruclips.net/video/MwK5aEq-p1k/видео.html The Morgan is now at Mystic Seaport Museum in Mystic Connecticut, and id still afloat and seaworthy. She is 180 years old.
@@albertramos7937 Your statement is self contradictory. "Her son was responsible for it all." Were it not for the fact that Hetty saved the Morgan, her son would not have been able to contribute it to the Marine Historical Society in Mystic Connecticut. I lived in Providence, RI most of my life, well more than half a century, and my family, and later myself, were members of first The Marine Historical Society, and later Mystic Seaport. I have a little better perspective on these things than you do, since I actually knew people involved when I was a young boy. My family also visited New Bedford and the Whaling Museum there on numerous occasion.
Interesting side note... Her son is credited with bringing the first automobile into the great state of Texas. H.E Green shipped a St Louis Phaeton Runabout to the town of Terrell, Texas where he was living in 1899. The horseless carriage came with a factory mechanic to teach Col. Green how to drive. They set out on a trip to Dallas, thirty miles away, but only made it to Forney where they broke an axel. Undeterred, they had a blacksmith repair the broken bit and then, just 5 short hours later, they drove into downtown Dallas. One more thing, Col. Green (as he called himself) also never bothered to buy a house while he ran his railroad in Terrell. Instead, he rented a room in a private home where he kept a bed, a trunk of clothes, and an extra prosthetic leg.
With no grandchildren, she must have known that her money would eventually go to charity. I think calling her a witch is a bit harsh - loads of super-rich people waste money on themselves, living in luxury while the poor starve. Many spend their wealth buying politicians. To me, this feels worse! I do feel sorry for her son and his leg though.
It's not true about her son's leg. After seeing this woman maligned in this and other videos, I did a deep dive into her bio. I saw 2 lectures here on RUclips where both authors say that she loved her children very much and her son had a sledding accident where the leg was injured, then a while later, fell out of a tree and injured the same leg, it healed, but he always limped. Then he was hit by a car as a grown man, and that's when the leg was damaged beyond repair and had to be amputated. She tried everything to save her son's leg, including taking him to specialists all over the country. This poor woman is being dragged by jealous men and yellow journalism.
@@adelecurry7405 Your welcome! Hetty Green achieved a lot in her lifetime, decades before women even had the right to vote. During her lifetime, it was considered wrong for a woman to involve herself in "men's affairs." To do so was frowned upon, to succeed where men had failed was unforgivable! I'm not especially a feminist, but I believe she should be lauded, and remembered as a trail-blazer.
I grew up near her home in bellows falls vt, my midwife lived at her home, while pregnant for my daughter i had tea a couple of times with my midwife. Hetty house was very beautiful and very haunted. Specially the carriage house, ghosts were seen often.
I feel sorry for Hetty. Her father certainly warped her. To be told to never give anything to anyone, not even kindness, well that is how most very wealthy people see the world, and that is how they raise their kids. And what do they gain for it? With all of her money, did she ever feel love or happiness or joy? I kinda doubt it. She was too busy hoarding money and feeling that everyone was trying to be friends just to steal her money.
This version of Hetty's story seems remarkably biased. Any woman making her own way during that time would have been subjected to name-calling and ridicule. A man doing the same would have been called "shrewd" or "savvy." I am far from a feminist, but come on. I also find it hard to believe she pinched every penny. Someone paid for all those studio portraits. I suspect her story has been exaggerated and "enhanced" through the years. She may have actually been as bad as portrayed here, but I doubt it.
I think it's a exaggerated too, but she definitely did not want to pay doctors money which resulted in her child losing a leg, and I think that's a clear enough testament to her character. Unless her son was deathly afraid of doctors or something bizarre there's little room for that to be twisted since it's a fact.
When there are a few facts, you can argue that the resultant story could be biased and exaggerated. HOWEVER, when there are multiple accounts from various sources all saying and pointing to the same thing, there is little to no room for bias. Facts are facts. This person, (who just happens to be a woman) was a very MISERABLE and DISPICABLE person!!! Being filthy rich and going to a free clinic?? Not willing to pay anything that you end up treating your child yourself that results in his loosing a limb for life?? Receiving a late but much needed surgery for yourself and then not wanting to pay for it?? Not having good hygiene or decent wardrobe? Not paying taxes?? We are not talking about being a "shrewd" business person here. Her character as a person was terrible! I'm sorry, but I'm having a hard time seeing bias in this case. You are obviously reading something into this that I can't see.
An old high school friend of mine was a descendent of Hetty Green. He graduated from MIT with a degree in mathematics and inherited $500,000 of stock from her estate. He lives alone as a hermit having never had a real career or family. Hetty Green‘s estate is cursed!
My multi millionaire cousin have 3 'wives', and many children. But all were not registered marriage so no one have any claims to his fortune. His mom taught him that
Great stuff, Hetty reminds me in look's of my own great grand mar, 🇬🇧💯👍 A voice over that didn't great on my nerves, 👍. If MONEY is the root of EVIL 🗣️😵🤬 WHY DO THE CHURCHES ALWAYS BEG FOR IT?¿??🌟🌎🌍🙏🆘🇬🇧
It’s the LOVE of money. If you’re willing to go ANYTHING to have it is where the issue comes in. As for churches, some (TD Jakes, Joe Osteen…) are clearly con artists in it for cash. In this modern life we need money to live our daily lives. That should be obvious..
I know some people who are cheap and stingy but this lady was extremely over-the-top. Refusing to pay for her son's medical care after the free clinic wouldn't accept him and trying to fix his leg herself (causing it to become amputated) is extremely sociopathic and a strange form of OCD (too bad it wasn't the hands-cleaning kind). Staying in hotels and refusing to buy a house to avoid taxes is just crazy. Those medical bills and property taxes would be a drop in the bucket compared to her wealth. And it was always growing because she had a gift for investing.
Regarding the black dresses: it didn't turn green from "filth". Black dyes were typically made by making green so dark it seemed black. So, her black dress that she wore day in and day out was just faded. And in Victorian and Edwardian writing it was a code for someone rich being cheap, tacky, or down on their luck to be described as wearing greenish-black, so reports at the time were definitely being judgemental... just not the way modern folks would read it.
Well loving that lil info I live history and all you history buffs I probably learn more on you tube than I use to sit in history class in high school lm learning the Lil rid bits of the seedy side of history lol
That reminds me of my brother who won some money in the lotto and because I was the family member who was just happy for him and didn't ask for anything he decided to buy me a car that I desperately needed. He didn't end up giving any money to our other siblings.
@@louisegross3886 nice things are only treasured when they're rare, hard won and the result of sacrifice. If the Olympics was just about getting a gold medal, people would buy one online. It's all your hard work, sacrifice and dashed hopes that make the medal special, imho.
"Hetty did not earn her first fortune" Lmao this is literally always how it goes for rich people. It's like the "inspirational" articles today about how some young person paid off their $200,000 college debt. "I lived frugally...oh and also my grandma died and I inherited $500k!"
Ikr. But dude. It is almost more impressive to gain a large fortune...AND NOT BLOW IT ALL! Than it is impressive to make your own fortune lol. Just look up people with inheritances, or with lottery wins. Almost never ends well. Most family fortunes do not last more than 2 more generations
I really enjoyed this video about this despicable wealthy stingy woman, Hetty Green. I remember hearing about the horrific incident involving her son's broken leg that later had to be amputated because Hetty wouldn't pay for his medical bills. It's interesting in the final analysis, her money went to various charities. Great investigating and narration by the guest host.
Wow really? That is terrible. Many would be misery to others but are at least generous to their children. She is beyond misery but just greedy and evil.
What a miserable soul! I pity her family-- especially her poor son! And the way she treated her daughter was just spiteful. I can't imagine being within sniffing distance of Hetty, given her lack of hygiene in later years. Thank you for bringing her story to us-- and for the guest narrator who certainly did her history justice. Happy New Year!
Exactly... As someone who takes a shower every morning and the hottest bath I can stand each night, I cringed as our narrator described her terrible hygiene habits. Wouldn't even wash her hands?? Yikes..
@@twistoffate4791 I thought the same thing! We are re-born and refreshed taking a bath or shower every day or night! And you can't forget the lotion! Unbelievable!! 😩😱😩
When I heard "her father told her never give anyone anything, not even kindness" I knew this was going to be a very interesting story! I guess she did follow her fathers advice as she preferred to have her son lose his leg!! I know of someone similar to this woman, there was a woman who lived down the street from us, she was diabetic and didn't want to spend money on her medicine. One day she injured her right foot the big toe ro he exact, given her diabetes and her not taking care of her injury gangrene set in. She didn't want to go to the doctor because it would cost money, by the time she did go to hospital they had to amputate part of her lower leg. The strange fact is that she was wealthy and could definitely afford her medicine, go to the doctor and get treatment. But her stinginess weighed more than common sense! Thank you Mr. Knox for a great narration and story. Happy New Year to you and everyone here 🎉🎈🎊
I was raised the opposite. Why is Clinton on here. He needs a master class on dealing with little bill! I do not like anyone, who destroys the under age, even if they went for the money. All of us lose family members Bill!
That was my thought as well. Especially after hearing that her Dad told her not to give anyone anything, not even kindness. That is a very bleak way to live.🐦✌🏼🌍
I have to disagree on one point in the video. It's mentioned that Hetty's father said never to give anyone anything, even kindness. I read a 1930's biography of Hettie and it said that her father told her to never OWE anyone anything, not even a kindness. Though it was not with direct financial aid Hetty at times was very helpful to others.
That makes much more sense to me. Why on earth would a father tell his daughter not to be kind? Not to OWE, even a kindness, is good advice. In other words "Don't be indebted to anyone."
This makes FAR more sense. Those that I know who grew up with and own great wealth ALL subscribe to this. It includes not having credit cards, always paying in cash and living off the interest of investments and not the investments themselves. You can see how the saying "it takes money to make money" is how wealth builds upon itself.
Now, why didn't the narrator say that? That makes more sense! I would never agree to owing anything but utilities! Also, if you rent get it included in your rent! Maybe that is why she did not want to pay the hot water bill! I still have a problem with her not paying the medical bill! Back then it may have been $20.00 or less! 🤔 ( I saw an old E.R. bill, from 45 years ago cleaning out my parents papers and it was $30.00 for my active brother's broken leg!)
Actually, the rich are rich because: 1.They know how to make money....and KEEP it. 2.They know how to save 3. They know how to invest 4. They have great financial discipline 5.Many of them actually do work hard... 6.They don't spend money frivolously.. Get the book called "The Millionaire Next Door"....it has some interesting revelations about millionaires.....
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My parents were misers. They grew up during the Depression, which makes some sense. Taught me to live independently and within my means. Hetty had that "within your means" lesson driven a little too hard imo.
my parents were but my dad and that that I'd mentioned earlier were reasonable at times and didn't overspend until my entitled sisters went nuts, and then she went nuts with my little sister's kids but never for me she always said my things cost twice the as much as my skinny sister's things.
It's Sad That Despite The Vast Wealth She Obtained, It STILL Wasn't Enough To Make Her Happy. Because If She Was TRULY Happy, She Wouldn't Have Made Everyone Around Her Miserable.
True! Money doesn't buy happiness, it only affords you a greater chance to achieve it. As this woman's life shows, you can still squander that chance, even if you have greater opportunity than 99,9% of the population.
I love the irony in this, makes one wonder if she was right in the head - especially when hearing about her poor sons leg! And in the end all's well that ends well, I imagine she was turning in her grave! Thank you for another interesting story on a cold, rainy English evening.
She didn't deserve to be a mother. Her unwillingness to spend anything even for her own child when he was injured is more than abhorrent to me since it's clear that she cared more for money than her family. She reminds me of my late father's scheming youngest sister.
What? You never heard this: Are there no work houses? Is there no room in the prisons? Then, let them die and reduce the surplus population! Love those lines from "A Christmas Carol".....
Another commenter on this thread who has read her biography says there's a misstatement in this video : the dad said never OWE anyone anything, not even a kindess. This means of course, NEVER EVER BECOME INDEBTED.
"Stunk"? Imagine the baptizing whiff down your nostrils without a breeze for relief!! The educational lesson is clear, pay attention to your hygiene foremost and as you tread in life be kind to those less unfortunate than you, which once ignored will surely ruin and even endanger your life. Enjoyable story it is!
@@JohnSmith-jf3us - Both “stank” and “stunk” are correct past tense conjugations of the verb “to stink”. The distinction lies in their usage: “Stank” is the simple past form of “stink“ (“According to the people who knew her, Hetty Green stank.”) “Stunk” is the past participle form, and should only be used with an auxiliary verb (“Hetty Green *had* stunk for quite some time, due to her aversion to bathing.”) 🙂
That Hetty was from an affluent family in Massachusetts whose family fortune came from whaling ship industry made me immediately think of the Essex, the ship from which Moby Dick’s inspiration came. What an absolute horror the real story of that voyage is. Long story short, cannibalism… Great history and storytelling as usual. ❤️
you misread that !!! the parents were owned the whaling company !!! whats much worse is that Hetty went into the very exclusive china trade which was largely illegal opium shipping to china !!!!
They would kill whales & great whites ,remove the livers for lamp oil & dump the rest of the animal over board. The meat on one whale could have fed a whole town. It tastes like beef Whalers barreled up the livers and the oil squeezed from the was used as lamp oil. Terrible to almost kill the off & at least used the meat to feed poor people.
Yeah, I watched a video about the true story behind Moby Dick (which is worse than the novel) on AskAMortician's channel. Excellent video but an absolute horror. I would've rather been killed by the whale.
I've only read the first paragraph of Moby Dick. Thank you for letting me know how it ends. I found it boring but now I am interested in seeing the film!
Funny, I have (had) a friend who's exactly like this woman, she has three stepchildren from a late husband (which she was separated from for 2 years before he passed) divorce proceedings was suppose to start a week after he died in a car accident. She went forward and claimed every sent he had in insurance policies, took all the furniture, cars! Even sold the house-those kids could not touch her, he passed before he could change his will, and they were married COP. If I could say in all honesty she was a woman scorned, I would, but I witnessed 1st hand greed like I've never ever seen in my life on earth, bought herself cameras (she wasn't able to operate) 3 Smart TV'S (she couldn't even set up)for her new house, telling me (with so much satisfaction) one of his kids lived in a shelter for the homeless with her two kids! Her own child that HE put through university, joined in with the spending! I literally threw her out of my house...
Oh, my. A dear friend of mine lost her dad when he was in divorce proceedings. He was in a grocery store and dropped dead in the store. The stepmother took it all, and shared not a penny with his 3 kids, who were young adults. He had changed his will but had neglected to leave her a dollar, which would have cut her out. The court ruled in her favor, as she was still technically his wife.
Her father forgot to tell her that money only has value when one buys something with it. Misers prosper, yet lead futile lives. Her daughter put it to good use. Money is wasted on the rich, for they know nothing about its true worth. Don't spend it all at once, and don't cling to it.
The way she lived, she might as well have been poor. Not bathing or washing her hands as if she was a homeless woman on the streets, not treating her son's leg and causing him to lose it when she could more than afford the doctor's bill.....that money was lf no use to her and her family the way she lived...
Put that way, she wasn't prosperous in any arena except finances and that was like a riptide in her existence with the money dictating every aspect of life. Tragic for her.🐦✌🏼🌍
@@missys.3038 Sounds like acquiring the money was the whole satisfaction. It was a means to an end. Kind of like a collector, she collected money which was a fixation. Probably had some mental obsessive thing going on where she just gained satisfaction from making the money NOT spending it! Probably related to O.C.D.
So right, because it's guaranteed that one day, rich people will die, just like the rest of us, and they can never take their money with them. Howard Hughes was a miser, and died having 2.2 billion dollars to his name.
All women need to be like Hetty when it comes to business dealings and inheritance. Except for the hygiene part and the way she treated her son, I truly admire this woman.
I find it difficult to believe that money is ever really DONATED. Clever , greedy people find a way to divert it into their pockets. Foundations, charities are fronts for nefarious thies. Ie. The Clinton Foundation is example.
It sounds like she had a head injury. Perhaps her brain was scrambled and her common sense was stuck. Imagine not taking her injured child for treatment after an injury. Cost him his leg.
I’m not impressed with the creation of wealth as much as I am with what you do with it. This vile, pitiful woman shouldn’t be revered for Forsaking her son’s health & controlling her daughter’s marital decisions that ultimately prevented any chance of motherhood. As Hetty learned, There are no luggage racks on a hearse. What a wasted, miserable life.
And as you will soon learn, that your life has just as much or little meaning as her’s when your time is up. At least she will be remembered for generations to come. Thanks Captain Obvious
I've been fascinated by Hetty since I was a kid. Another thing about her son was he had a girlfriend his mother didn't approve of and he married the girlfriend after Hetty passed. Also, she used to keep her money in suitcases under her bed.
Really awesome to have Mr Nox on your channel! Great job narration! I hope you have a healthy and happy new year with yours FLives. Thank you for a great year of fantastic stories and amazing narration. I truly appreciate it! Blessings to you and yours🕊 Thank you both very much
Brilliant job, Mr. Nox! She was something, that’s for sure. I learned of her in Primary School and read all I could about her. She wasn’t the nicest person, true, but in that time period a woman doing what she did was untold of and she had to be cold, shrewd and nasty at times. She knew her way around taxes as well. What she did to her son is disgusting though.
It is clear money will not allways make you happy she looks misrable she must have been the richest corpse in the cematrey some one should have told her there are no pockets in a shroud
It’s sickening how cheap this women was. YOU WONT SEE A UHAUL BEHIND A HEARSE. It’s not going with you and you will only have one life. Enjoy it but have generational wealth and have financial education to your family. 🤦🏾♀️
I know a lot of peoples will find her cruel, but something had to have happened to her in order for to be this way. Many misers experience poverty at some point in their early lives, so I wonder if her family was always penny pinching when she was a young lass?!? While There's nothing wrong with being a miser, there's a lot wrong when it affects your loved ones and you break laws I'm surprised that she didn't go to jail for taxes evasions.
Migue, that it true! Remember that her father taught her how to be tight, with the money! And not to give anyone anything, not evan kindness! I was glad that her children inherited the money and spent some of it well! To think, that she was the cause of her son losing his leg, when all he needed was an antibiotic or dressing; is just sad! 😪
@@Chutney1luv Yes, you're right! I imagine her son probably hated her for that or they had a strained relationship. While it's wise to save money, some people don't realize that we can not take it with us when we die.
@@ForgottenLives Great choice of narrator. English isn’t my mother tongue and yet, for once, I understood every word + the tone (the acting, if you will) was 👌🏼
Makes you wonder what was going through her head ? She was the richest Woman in the world at one time. Though she was not a self made millionaire she was business Savvy .
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Yes, he created an awesome channel! Already subscribed and I love it! Thank you FLives
Will do & TY *Forgotten Lives* this one is interesting also 👍👍👍👍👍
I was taught by my Mom & her Mom ... My maternal Grandmother who was born in 1907 to *always pay my bills first* & that advice has served me well ... my Mom is just short of 82 years old & still drives & does all she is able to do
I already have and subbed he's good.
The new narration caught me off guard! I will be checking out his channel though. Well done!
As a native of New Bedford, I can tell you that Hetty remains a well-known figure and historical celebrity around here.
Did she have decendants there?
Why? She seemed like a horrible person.
@@Nadia-ox1kf They said "Well-known" not "Well-liked". XD
My mother married a wealthy older man when we were kids and he was a miser, She had to go out to work to buy clothes for us kids. Or to save up and buy things she wanted. He had plenty of money to spend on himself and we found out years later that he had been going to gay brothels and paying big money to young rent boys. He also drove nice cars while mum had an old dunga to drive us kids around. Mum died of cancer at age 57 and that old bugger aged 77 went on spending sprees the likes of which we had never seen before - $60,000 in cash to one rent boy alone, who used to abuse and beat the old bugger up.
My Goodness that's a story TY for sharing *Juantia Richards*
Wow sorry you had to live that.Some dark stuff.
Sounds made up 🤔
@@smurfylee Truth is stranger than fiction. My whole family follow me on YT and would soon speak up if it wasn't true.
Rent boys, shaking my head. They’re still around. Quite a few on RUclips these days.
An immensely wealthy person refusing to pay taxes?! I’ve never heard of that one before…
Edit: This is sarcasm
Yep! We have 700 Billionaires, in our country who are not paying taxes!
No wonder our infrasttucture of bridges, sewers and roads are unkept and over 100 years old! 🙄 And I have not mentioned the Millionaires; and middle class and people with lower paying jobs, who most do pay their taxes quarterly or in-full! At least we do pay! We may not like it but, someone has to! Peace.. ✌ ☮ 🕊
Uh Trump😂😂
Maybe the less fortunate should follow their lead…
Lol 😸😸 so right 👍
@@lajohniagreene5097 - he's a traitor to America. Not paying taxes is one of his lesser offenses.
I dont see anything wrong with being frugal, but if you can't pay for your child to see a doctor, despite being able to easily afford it, then something is wrong.
Nor bathe, her stinky self or have heat in her house with running hot water! What kind of budgeting was she doing? Money is only valuable when it is spent! Not at once, but only used for good! 🧐
@@Chutney1luv During the time indoor plumbing wasn't really a thing. Unless you were wealthy. Regardless if you had the money you could take a hot bath. Your comment really jives with me cause I know my self that a hot bath or a shower is absolute little bit of heaven. I can not imagine not take one.
@@adamogilvie6951 I agree but, she was wealthy and had hot running water! Why didn't she bathe?
@@adamogilvie6951 I can't imagine not taking a bath or shower on a daily basis! I've gone camping and a day without a shower is itchy! The skin gets weird and wipes only help a little bit! Regardless, she had no excuse, in the free world because running hot water was in her home!
@@Chutney1luv I hear that. I refuse to camp. I will not be kidnapped by a Sasquatch.
According to "The Richest Woman In America" by Janet Wallach, Ned Green was not a child when he lost his leg. I believe he was closer to his mid-40's. Ned had the bad luck of being involved in several accidents in his life, all of which damaged the same leg. Eventually, his doctor told him it was too messed up to save. But Ned had been lame for so long that losing his bum leg wasn't even traumatic. At least that is how Ms. Wallach portrayed it.
Book Steer : Thank you for the correct insight. Hetty is falsely vilified . I'm from New Bedford and it is our history.
"Everything taken to extremes becomes harmful to yourself and/or to others, particularly greed" Cpt. OBVIOUS. 😌
This is sooo extremely sad! There's so much joy in giving what you can to those in need.
What a despicable woman, the ppl she could've helped with her wealth, not to mention her poor son!
People were helped in the end with her money going to charities. That's the good part of the story.
Your thorough research, calming and pleasantly proper English intonation, and your video images make you one of my favorite historical/ mystery RUclipsrs. Many thanks, Forgotten Lives! I look forward to even more great videos and historical information from you in 2022.
I love the narrator's voice!. It's so pleasant and calming.
And this was when a million $ meant something! 😳 Just about a perfect surname "Green"! Problem is, only people who are already wealthy can hold onto anything of whatever value until the perfect moment to sell🤷🏻♀️
Sad fact:
Hetty had a paranoia about been murdered.She suspected her aunt & her father were murdered.She believed the same were after her.She lived in constant fear.
That would upset a person.
Samee for the one who birthed me
Funny, the first thing that popped into my head when I heard father and aunt died within a short space of time, leaving her a fortune each, was that she did it.
Too much murder p0rn on RUclips for me! 😆
So this might be a reason why she kept changing houses.
yep. Might explain her craziness around money.
I love your paced voice when unfolding a story.
Excellent narration, Mr. Nox
There's no excuse for leaving others to suffer in agony. We should all try to do what we can for others in need. Still times ARE getting tougher. We all need to be smart about spending and saving money. The reason you see so many new cars parked at the dollar stores and thrift stores is because those people learned how to manage money properly.
Or all the extra money they make is used on the new car payment!
Or be misers like Hetty, lol.
My head whipped around so fast when you started talking about her body odor. I couldn't believe it!
I remember reading a bio on her and thinking how HAPPY I was for her son after all she had done to him and the family spending the money as they should and living their life. I still wonder if all of her stinginess was something she truly could look back on without regret.
Lawd here it go forgotten lives one of the best videos on you tube cause you go way back and a lil history on the side makes me happy I wasn't around in them days them old days were scary
There needs to be a mental health diagnosis for extreme stinginess. There are people like her (extreme stinginess without a need for it) who display the same issues (symptoms) Hetty had with the other aspects of her life, including dressing like a homeless person, lack of decent grooming, mistrust, manipulation, disrespect and contempt towards others in general, lack of empathy and the extreme length they’re willing to go to not pay anything. It truly is a disorder of some sort and it needs to be recognized as such. Living with someone like that is not only toxic but dangerous, it literally destroys lives of those who depend on them (it cost her son a leg, too).
I love this lady, she would only have the bottom of her dress cleaned. maybe you can do some videos of these amazing forgotten rich ladies- hugette Clark, Barbara Hutton, Doris duke, Florence Vanderbilt twombly, Gertrude Vanderbilt Whitney
One of the enduring myths of capitalism is that people like her worked hard to get their wealth. DON'T YOU BELIEVE IT!!!!
While you are correct that not all people who are wealthy under a capitalist society earn their money, you could probably even say that most don't and people would be hard pressed to argue with you. It is the only system that someone who is born wealthy and does work hard can become wealthy. In socialism or a cast society, ALL who are wealthy are born that way and no matter what a less fortunate person does and no matter how hard they work, they can NEVER become wealthy. Even the very few in Russia or China who have worked hard and become wealthy from a meager beginning have had what they made taken from them by the state, before or after they were disappeared.
Tje people who built the fortune worked hard for it. It doesnt mens that when the kids inherit it, that anyone has the right to take it from them. The thing about this country and capitalism is that the little guy has the freedom to rise to the top rather th as n a class system. Social and economic mobility. Check out how many people amass wealth and then lose it all dying in poverty. There are alot of those stories
I read about her years ago. She was so cheap she'd stuff her clothes with newspaper rather than purchase warm woolen clothing. In that era, many people didn't bathe--in fact, some quacks believed frequent bathing might be unhealthy which we might also understand given the drafty dwellings where bathing in frigid weather with little to no heat could result in colds, or pneumonia. One could understand poor ignorant people doing some of the things she did but she was wealthy and certainly sophisticated enough to know better.
I was so impressed with this show I don't know it's just strange how someone who was a Quaker could not want to help other folks and had that much money to do it obviously she didn't care about her religion
i had an aunt who took back her daughters wedding shoes back and sat in the shop all day until the owner gave her the money back just to get rid of her lol ,being mean to the point of neglect is another thing
Giiiiiirrrrlllll
No no no no.... i was with you until the uncleanliness/body odor. And lettin your own child go through preventable health issues.
No ma'am.
How sad.... to have such wealth and live with a spirit of lack like that....
I think a series or movie would be a fascinating watch!
I grew up in Little Compton Rhode Island. I stumbled upon the Green mansion once. I was chased away!
I met people like her, not billionaires but extremely wealthy, and one of them lives in the village I live. She too has poor hygiene (or lack thereof) not to pay water bills - and good luck to those who get close to her - never uses heating in winter, and rummages through garbage for clothes or other things that might be "very useful" 🤢 Luckily, the NHS in my country is free for everybody so none of the misers I met let their children's limbs rot.
Related to Hetty, Howland family in New Bedford. The entire family were pretty miserable. My great grandmother was disowned by the family. Lots of mental health issues within the entire family.
Henrietta Robinson Green was my hero growing up. Self made. I wish somebody would write a real book about her.
Loved this story!!!!!!Great narrative,your voice was made for telling stories!!!!!☺️🇬🇧
Hetty Green always remembered the whaling ships which were the first foundation of her family fortune. In later years she had the last of the wooden whalers, the Charles W. Morgan brought to her estate at Round Hill. Here is a video of the ship as she was at that time. ruclips.net/video/MwK5aEq-p1k/видео.html The Morgan is now at Mystic Seaport Museum in Mystic Connecticut, and id still afloat and seaworthy. She is 180 years old.
She had nothing to do with the Charles W Morgan or the Round Hill Mansion. Her son was responsible for it all.
@@albertramos7937 Your statement is self contradictory. "Her son was responsible for it all." Were it not for the fact that Hetty saved the Morgan, her son would not have been able to contribute it to the Marine Historical Society in Mystic Connecticut. I lived in Providence, RI most of my life, well more than half a century, and my family, and later myself, were members of first The Marine Historical Society, and later Mystic Seaport. I have a little better perspective on these things than you do, since I actually knew people involved when I was a young boy. My family also visited New Bedford and the Whaling Museum there on numerous occasion.
Interesting side note... Her son is credited with bringing the first automobile into the great state of Texas. H.E Green shipped a St Louis Phaeton Runabout to the town of Terrell, Texas where he was living in 1899. The horseless carriage came with a factory mechanic to teach Col. Green how to drive. They set out on a trip to Dallas, thirty miles away, but only made it to Forney where they broke an axel. Undeterred, they had a blacksmith repair the broken bit and then, just 5 short hours later, they drove into downtown Dallas.
One more thing, Col. Green (as he called himself) also never bothered to buy a house while he ran his railroad in Terrell. Instead, he rented a room in a private home where he kept a bed, a trunk of clothes, and an extra prosthetic leg.
That was very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Nothing could ever make this woman happy. What a pitiful way to live.
With no grandchildren, she must have known that her money would eventually go to charity.
I think calling her a witch is a bit harsh - loads of super-rich people waste money on themselves, living in luxury while the poor starve. Many spend their wealth buying politicians. To me, this feels worse!
I do feel sorry for her son and his leg though.
It's not true about her son's leg. After seeing this woman maligned in this and other videos, I did a deep dive into her bio. I saw 2 lectures here on RUclips where both authors say that she loved her children very much and her son had a sledding accident where the leg was injured, then a while later, fell out of a tree and injured the same leg, it healed, but he always limped. Then he was hit by a car as a grown man, and that's when the leg was damaged beyond repair and had to be amputated. She tried everything to save her son's leg, including taking him to specialists all over the country. This poor woman is being dragged by jealous men and yellow journalism.
@@maryloumawson6006 Thank you for looking into that - I'm so glad you found out what happened.
@@adelecurry7405 Your welcome! Hetty Green achieved a lot in her lifetime, decades before women even had the right to vote. During her lifetime, it was considered wrong for a woman to involve herself in "men's affairs." To do so was frowned upon, to succeed where men had failed was unforgivable! I'm not especially a feminist, but I believe she should be lauded, and remembered as a trail-blazer.
@@maryloumawson6006 Well, I would rather be like Hetty than be like her jealous critics x
I grew up near her home in bellows falls vt, my midwife lived at her home, while pregnant for my daughter i had tea a couple of times with my midwife. Hetty house was very beautiful and very haunted. Specially the carriage house, ghosts were seen often.
I feel sorry for Hetty. Her father certainly warped her. To be told to never give anything to anyone, not even kindness, well that is how most very wealthy people see the world, and that is how they raise their kids. And what do they gain for it? With all of her money, did she ever feel love or happiness or joy? I kinda doubt it. She was too busy hoarding money and feeling that everyone was trying to be friends just to steal her money.
I’m from New Bedford and heard of Heddy Green from a young age.
Sad.. no family legacy even with that vast wealth. That’s greed which in the end will give you misery.
This was very interesting! I'm still waiting for a secret uncle to surprisingly die and leave me everything 😂
The POLITICANS and Judges got the money, who are you kidding.
Great story, thanks.
This version of Hetty's story seems remarkably biased. Any woman making her own way during that time would have been subjected to name-calling and ridicule. A man doing the same would have been called "shrewd" or "savvy." I am far from a feminist, but come on. I also find it hard to believe she pinched every penny. Someone paid for all those studio portraits. I suspect her story has been exaggerated and "enhanced" through the years. She may have actually been as bad as portrayed here, but I doubt it.
I think it's a exaggerated too, but she definitely did not want to pay doctors money which resulted in her child losing a leg, and I think that's a clear enough testament to her character. Unless her son was deathly afraid of doctors or something bizarre there's little room for that to be twisted since it's a fact.
When there are a few facts, you can argue that the resultant story could be biased and exaggerated. HOWEVER, when there are multiple accounts from various sources all saying and pointing to the same thing, there is little to no room for bias. Facts are facts. This person, (who just happens to be a woman) was a very MISERABLE and DISPICABLE person!!! Being filthy rich and going to a free clinic?? Not willing to pay anything that you end up treating your child yourself that results in his loosing a limb for life?? Receiving a late but much needed surgery for yourself and then not wanting to pay for it?? Not having good hygiene or decent wardrobe? Not paying taxes?? We are not talking about being a "shrewd" business person here. Her character as a person was terrible! I'm sorry, but I'm having a hard time seeing bias in this case. You are obviously reading something into this that I can't see.
You’re far from a feminist? Extreme/toxic feminism isn’t true feminism. Feminists just want equality.
Mr. Nox - that was a lovely narration.
An old high school friend of mine was a descendent of Hetty Green. He graduated from MIT with a degree in mathematics and inherited $500,000 of stock from her estate. He lives alone as a hermit having never had a real career or family. Hetty Green‘s estate is cursed!
Thank you both 💕. Very good
My multi millionaire cousin have 3 'wives', and many children. But all were not registered marriage so no one have any claims to his fortune. His mom taught him that
Great stuff, Hetty reminds me in look's of my own great grand mar, 🇬🇧💯👍
A voice over that didn't great on my nerves, 👍.
If MONEY is the root of EVIL 🗣️😵🤬 WHY DO THE CHURCHES ALWAYS BEG FOR IT?¿??🌟🌎🌍🙏🆘🇬🇧
It’s the LOVE of money. If you’re willing to go ANYTHING to have it is where the issue comes in. As for churches, some (TD Jakes, Joe Osteen…) are clearly con artists in it for cash. In this modern life we need money to live our daily lives. That should be obvious..
I know some people who are cheap and stingy but this lady was extremely over-the-top. Refusing to pay for her son's medical care after the free clinic wouldn't accept him and trying to fix his leg herself (causing it to become amputated) is extremely sociopathic and a strange form of OCD (too bad it wasn't the hands-cleaning kind). Staying in hotels and refusing to buy a house to avoid taxes is just crazy. Those medical bills and property taxes would be a drop in the bucket compared to her wealth. And it was always growing because she had a gift for investing.
So sad, like dude, you can't take it with you when you go! Her kids must have been miserable!
Can't believe she bailed him out of jail
What good was it to be rich and not enjoy the advantages of it ?
I can easily see a fictional take on Hetty's live as A Christmas Carol spinoff
It's a true saying... money goes to money.. and always will.
They made a movie on this , a black and white movie
Just loving this
Very cool thank you
The Love of Money has destroyed many lives
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Regarding the black dresses: it didn't turn green from "filth". Black dyes were typically made by making green so dark it seemed black. So, her black dress that she wore day in and day out was just faded. And in Victorian and Edwardian writing it was a code for someone rich being cheap, tacky, or down on their luck to be described as wearing greenish-black, so reports at the time were definitely being judgemental... just not the way modern folks would read it.
Great comment.
People neglect to remember things were VERY DIFFERENT then.
Historically Skewed Perpective.
Makes perfect sense. Thank you.
I was thinking that too about the dyes etc but she did smell so that why I understood why he said “filith”
Well loving that lil info I live history and all you history buffs I probably learn more on you tube than I use to sit in history class in high school lm learning the Lil rid bits of the seedy side of history lol
Well there go my lil bit of learning a lil about way way back in the days cause we never look at what certain clothes they wore and what they meant
When we got our small inheritance the most joy I got was randomly sending money to my hard working children that never ask for a dime! Seriously
Brava !
That reminds me of my brother who won some money in the lotto and because I was the family member who was just happy for him and didn't ask for anything he decided to buy me a car that I desperately needed. He didn't end up giving any money to our other siblings.
Good grief
You have a good heart Chile when have kids that's how you do it
@@louisegross3886 nice things are only treasured when they're rare, hard won and the result of sacrifice.
If the Olympics was just about getting a gold medal, people would buy one online. It's all your hard work, sacrifice and dashed hopes that make the medal special, imho.
"Hetty did not earn her first fortune" Lmao this is literally always how it goes for rich people. It's like the "inspirational" articles today about how some young person paid off their $200,000 college debt. "I lived frugally...oh and also my grandma died and I inherited $500k!"
Ikr. But dude. It is almost more impressive to gain a large fortune...AND NOT BLOW IT ALL! Than it is impressive to make your own fortune lol. Just look up people with inheritances, or with lottery wins. Almost never ends well. Most family fortunes do not last more than 2 more generations
Lmao I know right😂?!
Yep 😆
@@claudeyaz not when you have crony capitalism like we do today. It's a damn shame the lies and fraud we have today.
This is true, actually!
I really enjoyed this video about this despicable wealthy stingy woman, Hetty Green. I remember hearing about the horrific incident involving her son's broken leg that later had to be amputated because Hetty wouldn't pay for his medical bills. It's interesting in the final analysis, her money went to various charities. Great investigating and narration by the guest host.
Wow really? That is terrible. Many would be misery to others but are at least generous to their children. She is beyond misery but just greedy and evil.
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj I heard that story in school. Long before I knew anything about Wall Street.
All that $ and I doubt any of them had much happiness
@@celenacasciani8500 That’s the secret, you have to pay it forward. Money is not a blessing until you help others with it.
@Mary Goodday 👏 good for you!!!
What a horrible miserable life. Money can't buy happiness or manners or love.
What a miserable soul! I pity her family-- especially her poor son! And the way she treated her daughter was just spiteful. I can't imagine being within sniffing distance of Hetty, given her lack of hygiene in later years. Thank you for bringing her story to us-- and for the guest narrator who certainly did her history justice. Happy New Year!
Exactly... As someone who takes a shower every morning and the hottest bath I can stand each night, I cringed as our narrator described her terrible hygiene habits. Wouldn't even wash her hands?? Yikes..
@@twistoffate4791 Well, yuckeroo!
@@scotnick59 Exactly!! Yikes...
@@twistoffate4791 I thought the same thing! We are re-born and refreshed taking a bath or shower every day or night! And you can't forget the lotion! Unbelievable!! 😩😱😩
@@Chutney1luv Definitely have to do my after shower lotion routine..😏
When I heard "her father told her never give anyone anything, not even kindness" I knew this was going to be a very interesting story!
I guess she did follow her fathers advice as she preferred to have her son lose his leg!!
I know of someone similar to this woman, there was a woman who lived down the street from us, she was diabetic and didn't want to spend money on her medicine. One day she injured her right foot the big toe ro he exact, given her diabetes and her not taking care of her injury gangrene set in. She didn't want to go to the doctor because it would cost money, by the time she did go to hospital they had to amputate part of her lower leg. The strange fact is that she was wealthy and could definitely afford her medicine, go to the doctor and get treatment. But her stinginess weighed more than common sense!
Thank you Mr. Knox for a great narration and story. Happy New Year to you and everyone here 🎉🎈🎊
That's so sad
Perhaps she was mentally ill.
I was raised the opposite. Why is Clinton on here. He needs a master class on dealing with little bill! I do not like anyone, who destroys the under age, even if they went for the money. All of us lose family members Bill!
:))) Happy New Year to you too !
@@TREVASLARK thank you! 😊
Her story is about control. Her family must’ve hammered in her mind the fear of poverty despite their money. Poor soul.
People like her need to loose EVERYTHING and be out homeless and see what it's like seeing rich cheap people looking down at at her .
That was my thought as well. Especially after hearing that her Dad told her not to give anyone anything, not even kindness. That is a very bleak way to live.🐦✌🏼🌍
That has a lot to do with the Quaker lifestyle as well.
I have to disagree on one point in the video. It's mentioned that Hetty's father said never to give anyone anything, even kindness. I read a 1930's biography of Hettie and it said that her father told her to never OWE anyone anything, not even a kindness. Though it was not with direct financial aid Hetty at times was very helpful to others.
That makes much more sense to me. Why on earth would a father tell his daughter not to be kind? Not to OWE, even a kindness, is good advice. In other words "Don't be indebted to anyone."
ruclips.net/video/FHeOOVxGft8/видео.html&ab_channel=TheHistoryGuy%3AHistoryDeservestoBeRemembered
This makes FAR more sense. Those that I know who grew up with and own great wealth ALL subscribe to this. It includes not having credit cards, always paying in cash and living off the interest of investments and not the investments themselves. You can see how the saying "it takes money to make money" is how wealth builds upon itself.
That makes much more sense.
Now, why didn't the narrator say that? That makes more sense! I would never agree to owing anything but utilities! Also, if you rent get it included in your rent!
Maybe that is why she did not want to pay the hot water bill! I still have a problem with her not paying the medical bill! Back then it may have been $20.00 or less! 🤔
( I saw an old E.R. bill, from 45 years ago cleaning out my parents papers and it was $30.00 for my active brother's broken leg!)
hetty green is the example why the rich stay rich
Lmao true😂
Actually, the rich are rich because:
1.They know how to make money....and KEEP it.
2.They know how to save
3. They know how to invest
4. They have great financial discipline
5.Many of them actually do work hard...
6.They don't spend money frivolously..
Get the book called "The Millionaire Next Door"....it has some interesting revelations about millionaires.....
Extreme, but a good example, yes. Like John Paul Getty.
Often the poor spend overspend , and the rich underspend.
😆 so true don't spend your money stay rich lol
but still die poor
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My parents were misers. They grew up during the Depression, which makes some sense. Taught me to live independently and within my means. Hetty had that "within your means" lesson driven a little too hard imo.
my parents were but my dad and that that I'd mentioned earlier were reasonable at times and didn't overspend until my entitled sisters went nuts, and then she went nuts with my little sister's kids but never for me she always said my things cost twice the as much as my skinny sister's things.
My folks too. They survived the Depression, WW II and the Dustbowl (Oklahoma). They had a hard time throwing things away. It rubs off on a kid!
@@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647 That's so not fair to you. I'm sorry she said that to you.
Especially the hygiene part! No reason for that
and than you made sure your kids wouldn't have any jobs that pay a living wage
It's Sad That Despite The Vast Wealth She Obtained, It STILL Wasn't Enough To Make Her Happy. Because If She Was TRULY Happy, She Wouldn't Have Made Everyone Around Her Miserable.
True! Money doesn't buy happiness, it only affords you a greater chance to achieve it. As this woman's life shows, you can still squander that chance, even if you have greater opportunity than 99,9% of the population.
Now, that statement; you just made is TRUE!! SAD AND TRUE!
I love the irony in this, makes one wonder if she was right in the head - especially when hearing about her poor sons leg! And in the end all's well that ends well, I imagine she was turning in her grave! Thank you for another interesting story on a cold, rainy English evening.
There’s being frugal but this is beyond that. I know we shouldn’t diagnose people without meeting them, but I wonder if she had some kind of OCD
She didn't deserve to be a mother.
Her unwillingness to spend anything even for her own child when he was injured is more than abhorrent to me since it's clear that she cared more for money than her family.
She reminds me of my late father's scheming youngest sister.
That may be but her kid turned out to be okay.
@@scottthorning3963 She was selfish, too.
@@catholiccrusader5328 No thanks to her
Reminds me of many rich people only care about you if you are more wealthy than they are .
@@georgevavoulis4758 Ikr? They'll only spare you a glance if they see that you're on their level, or higher
Never give anyone anything!? Even kindness ! Unbelievable. Very sad when rich people are so selfish and they could help so many people
Hope she's burning in hell especially after treating her son like that .
What? You never heard this: Are there no work houses? Is there no room in the prisons? Then, let them die and reduce the surplus population! Love those lines from "A Christmas Carol".....
Another commenter on this thread who has read her biography says there's a misstatement in this video : the dad said never OWE anyone anything, not even a kindess. This means of course, NEVER EVER BECOME INDEBTED.
@@TREVASLARK I agree.....I try to never become INDEBTED.....I always try to have it where people owe me....
Inspirational quote for me oil poor ass he’ll. Gotta be hella stingy.
"Stunk"? Imagine the baptizing whiff down your nostrils without a breeze for relief!! The educational lesson is clear, pay attention to your hygiene foremost and as you tread in life be kind to those less unfortunate than you, which once ignored will surely ruin and even endanger your life. Enjoyable story it is!
Past tense of stink, is stank.
@@JohnSmith-jf3us - Both “stank” and “stunk” are correct past tense conjugations of the verb “to stink”. The distinction lies in their usage: “Stank” is the simple past form of “stink“ (“According to the people who knew her, Hetty Green stank.”) “Stunk” is the past participle form, and should only be used with an auxiliary verb (“Hetty Green *had* stunk for quite some time, due to her aversion to bathing.”) 🙂
What is the criticism here. You have an American education because they really use past participle.
She sounds like my wicked grandmother - not in wealth but in sadism towards her children.
Lovely lady. 😑
My parents always told us you earn your money you make sure you pay your bills and keep a roof over your head and what's left you learn to live off.
I absolutely love this channel ❤️
Thanks so much!!
That Hetty was from an affluent family in Massachusetts whose family fortune came from whaling ship industry made me immediately think of the Essex, the ship from which Moby Dick’s inspiration came. What an absolute horror the real story of that voyage is. Long story short, cannibalism… Great history and storytelling as usual. ❤️
you misread that !!! the parents were owned the whaling company !!! whats much worse is that Hetty went into the very exclusive china trade which was largely illegal opium shipping to china !!!!
They would kill whales & great whites ,remove the livers for lamp oil & dump the rest of the animal over board. The meat on one whale could have fed a whole town. It tastes like beef
Whalers barreled up the livers and the oil squeezed from the was used as lamp oil. Terrible to almost kill the off & at least used the meat to feed poor people.
Yeah, I watched a video about the true story behind Moby Dick (which is worse than the novel) on AskAMortician's channel. Excellent video but an absolute horror. I would've rather been killed by the whale.
@@whocares_bear Yeah, at least with the whale, it would be alot quicker.
I've only read the first paragraph of Moby Dick. Thank you for letting me know how it ends. I found it boring but now I am interested in seeing the film!
Funny, I have (had) a friend who's exactly like this woman, she has three stepchildren
from a late husband (which she was separated from for 2 years before he passed)
divorce proceedings was suppose to start a week after he died in a car accident. She went forward and claimed every sent he had in insurance policies, took all the furniture, cars! Even sold the house-those kids could not touch her, he passed before he could change his will, and they were married COP.
If I could say in all honesty she was a woman scorned, I would, but I witnessed 1st hand greed like I've never ever seen in my life on earth, bought herself cameras (she wasn't able to operate) 3 Smart TV'S (she couldn't even set up)for her new house, telling me (with so much satisfaction) one of his kids lived in a shelter for the homeless with her two kids! Her own child that HE put through university, joined in with the spending!
I literally threw her out of my house...
Oh, my. A dear friend of mine lost her dad when he was in divorce proceedings. He was in a grocery store and dropped dead in the store. The stepmother took it all, and shared not a penny with his 3 kids, who were young adults. He had changed his will but had neglected to leave her a dollar, which would have cut her out. The court ruled in her favor, as she was still technically his wife.
cent...Karma never loses an address..
She is crazy. No other explanation. Her psyche is not properly built.
Her father forgot to tell her that money only has value when one buys something with it. Misers prosper, yet lead futile lives. Her daughter put it to good use.
Money is wasted on the rich, for they know nothing about its true worth. Don't spend it all at once, and don't cling to it.
Well said Christopher, well said! 👏
The way she lived, she might as well have been poor. Not bathing or washing her hands as if she was a homeless woman on the streets, not treating her son's leg and causing him to lose it when she could more than afford the doctor's bill.....that money was lf no use to her and her family the way she lived...
Put that way, she wasn't prosperous in any arena except finances and that was like a riptide in her existence with the money dictating every aspect of life. Tragic for her.🐦✌🏼🌍
@@missys.3038 Sounds like acquiring the money was the whole satisfaction. It was a means to an end. Kind of like a collector, she collected money which was a fixation. Probably had some mental obsessive thing going on where she just gained satisfaction from making the money NOT spending it! Probably related to O.C.D.
So right, because it's guaranteed that one day, rich people will die, just like the rest of us, and they can never take their money with them. Howard Hughes was a miser, and died having 2.2 billion dollars to his name.
All women need to be like Hetty when it comes to business dealings and inheritance. Except for the hygiene part and the way she treated her son, I truly admire this woman.
I wonder if she had physical beauty and proper grooming, how things would have been different for her. 🧐
I find it difficult to believe that money is ever really DONATED. Clever , greedy people
find a way to divert it into their pockets. Foundations, charities are fronts for nefarious
thies. Ie. The Clinton Foundation is example.
True!! Because they always get that money back, so how is it donated? 🙄smh
It sounds like she had a head injury. Perhaps her brain was scrambled and her common sense was stuck. Imagine not taking her injured child for treatment after an injury. Cost him his leg.
Hi there Ayape!
@@bettyjames4155 Hi Betty.
She definitely had psychological issues for sure and that went beyond being stingy.
I’m not impressed with the creation of wealth as much as I am with what you do with it. This vile, pitiful woman shouldn’t be revered for Forsaking her son’s health & controlling her daughter’s marital decisions that ultimately prevented any chance of motherhood. As Hetty learned, There are no luggage racks on a hearse. What a wasted, miserable life.
And as you will soon learn, that your life has just as much or little meaning as her’s when your time is up. At least she will be remembered for generations to come. Thanks Captain Obvious
Spot on
@@micahcoleman2760 Hitler will always be remembered as well. Your point is mute.
Thank you- Fascinating. What a horrible old woman!!
They're saying she's funky like an old batch of collard greens.
Great. Now I don't want anymore collard greens!😢😱
I've been fascinated by Hetty since I was a kid. Another thing about her son was he had a girlfriend his mother didn't approve of and he married the girlfriend after Hetty passed. Also, she used to keep her money in suitcases under her bed.
Really awesome to have Mr Nox on your channel! Great job narration! I hope you have a healthy and happy new year with yours FLives. Thank you for a great year of fantastic stories and amazing narration. I truly appreciate it! Blessings to you and yours🕊 Thank you both very much
Brilliant job, Mr. Nox! She was something, that’s for sure. I learned of her in Primary School and read all I could about her. She wasn’t the nicest person, true, but in that time period a woman doing what she did was untold of and she had to be cold, shrewd and nasty at times. She knew her way around taxes as well. What she did to her son is disgusting though.
It is clear money will not allways make you happy she looks misrable she must have been the richest corpse in the cematrey some one should have told her there are no pockets in a shroud
@@bredaokeeffe4702 Scrooge, definitely!
lol
@@bredaokeeffe4702 :))))) Nor inside a casket.
I agree ! (by the way, you want to say "unheard of" instead of "untold of !" ) ;)))
She may have had lots of money but she was very poor in many other ways .
It’s sickening how cheap this women was. YOU WONT SEE A UHAUL BEHIND A HEARSE.
It’s not going with you and you will only have one life. Enjoy it but have generational wealth and have financial education to your family. 🤦🏾♀️
You are so correct!
"By the time she was 13 she was working as a bookkeeper for the family business."
13 year old kids today. - getting their family in debt.
You should point out that the Gilded Age meant not a Golden Age, but a shabby imitation.
I know a lot of peoples will find her cruel, but something had to have happened to her in order for to be this way. Many misers experience poverty at some point in their early lives, so I wonder if her family was always penny pinching when she was a young lass?!? While There's nothing wrong with being a miser, there's a lot wrong when it affects your loved ones and you break laws I'm surprised that she didn't go to jail for taxes evasions.
Migue, that it true! Remember that her father taught her how to be tight, with the money! And not to give anyone anything, not evan kindness! I was glad that her children inherited the money and spent some of it well! To think, that she was the cause of her son losing his leg, when all he needed was an antibiotic or dressing; is just sad! 😪
@@Chutney1luv Yes, you're right! I imagine her son probably hated her for that or they had a strained relationship. While it's wise to save money, some people don't realize that we can not take it with us when we die.
D8d you watch the video? Born rich
Money only has real value when it's spent. Not that you have to go broke, but being a miser with her kind of wealth is pretty twisted.
She was born into to money! She was never poor! Just stingy and controlling!!!
The new narrator was a shock to be shure, is the channel expanding? Love all the work you do!
Just a one off!
@@ForgottenLives You both have nice voices ...it comes through off camera... clear speaking voices should not be taken for granted ...keep it going
@@ForgottenLives
Great choice of narrator. English isn’t my mother tongue and yet, for once, I understood every word + the tone (the acting, if you will) was 👌🏼
Makes you wonder what was going through her head ? She was the richest Woman in the world at one time. Though she was not a self made millionaire she was business Savvy .