もっと多くの日本人が黒人編集に本気で問題を抱えているかもしれないので…私たちが日本の漫画、アニメのキャラクター、そしてその世界を愛していることは理解しています。彼らは私たちにインスピレーションを与えてくれます。しかし、ほとんどの黒人編集は、キャラクターが黒人だったらどのように見えるかを見るための楽しみのために行われます。日本、日本人、原作の漫画家、または誰かを軽蔑するために行われることはほとんどありません。私が話しているアメリカ人と西洋人は、私たちが日本人や日本、または他の人々よりも優れているとは思っていません。私はダンダダンの最初の2話を見たばかりですが、今のところ気に入っています。In case more Japanese people genuinely had issues with black edits... I understand we love Japanese manga, anime characters, and their worlds; they inspire us. But most black edits are done for fun to see what the characters would look like if they were black. It's almost never done to disrespect Japan, Japanese people, the original mangaka, or anyone. The Americans and Westerners I speak of DO NOT believe we are better than Japanese people or Japan or any people. I just saw the first two episodes of Dandadan, and I like them so far.
@@whytmangatv brother, Japanese people are not upset with black edits, they are upset that western people on twitter take their art and "fix them", that they get harrassed if they drew dark skinned characters with lighter tones, or draw characters like Knuckles as white. They are fed up with the double standard that they get harrassed for fan art but those same people praise black edits and parade them around, this is just the straw that broke the kammals back because it came from the official VO dub
@@KrazyStargazer The issue is still the double standard, JP artist are fed up with the West for always "fixing" their fanarts when it involves black or dark skinned characters
I think the outrage is more about how psychopathic the left is about skin colour. Artists have been threatened because darker characters were still not white but colourblind lighter. So it's about hypocrisy.
The place where all rationality takes a jump off a 40 story building (and this was before the 9th circle of hell its become today with its new owner. Booty bots *and* Nazis everywhere now lol).
I said this in another video, but as an artist myself with dark skin, I'm ok with race swapping characters as long as its not for the sake of "FIXING" the OG or claiming that the new race/skin color is somehow better than the original just because of that. Its a really dumb mindset and I mostly see this on Twitter only when people feel they need to "correct a wrong" or "want representation". (Also edits feel very lazy to me, regardless of what the intent is. Fan art that takes actual skill is cool though) As long as its done for fun or for curiosity REGARDLESS of the race they're swapping the character to, I think its fair game. The Brazilian Miku thing was the perfect example of it being done for fun. So many artists came together and even made other versions of her of other races and it was awesome. There does seem to be a double standard when it comes to race swapping but I'm not even gonna speak on that. My points above still stand though.
It is worth noting that with this Dandadan edit, the artist made no claim of "fixing" the art at all. I've seen some ppl say their dogpiling of the artist is deserved because _other_ artists out there have done that "I fixed it for you" thing which is... interesting logic. I agree with Whyt's take and yours though with swaps -- light to dark, dark to light, both are fine as long as your intent is pure and there's no notably bad impact. That said, there's some complications that do come in when we (rightfully) account for the history of whitewashing (which blackwashing pales in comparison to) and how white/light ppl tend to see less obstacles in our society than brown/black ppl partially due to stuff like anti-blackness and colorism. I think that matters, because in our world where all of that is true and is partially why we see so few darker/black faces in some media, it's fair to want to push back against that. I just wish people would be more careful with how they do that. Immediately assuming worst intent from artists online and harassing them probably isn't the move, even though I know sometimes that's just ppl being frustrated with the state of things and wanting an outlet.
@nicelight7794 Yeah. I completely agree that the artist didn't deserve the hate at all. It didn't say fixed or anything and it looked pretty cool. The people not seeing the bigger picture and just being racist for no reason is inexcusable. And I am aware of the history of whitewashing (primarily) and blackwashing and how nuanced that topic is which is why I didn't go into it. I feel like it really depends on how the individual person feels on it. While I see your view-point on it, I personally just don't feel as strongly about it. That doesn't in anyway invalidate you or anyone else that does though. But like we agreed, as long as there isn't any malicious intent for race swapping, there should never be a problem but somehow there always is on both sides 😂. Ngl though, the "KKK" REALLY came out with this Dandadan fanart drama, like WOW.
Its actually an inferior trait to have to think that way especially when you expend so much energy into it. Truth is its usually coming from outside groups who think they own everything, yet can't fix their inferiority complexes.
@@pkjose1343 you know it. The edits are horrible, taking other people’s works, altering it and even charging others for it? That’s disgraceful and disrespectful. It’s been its own unique problem for a while actually, people claiming these edits as good representation just sucks. The separate but real issue isn’t the race swapping itself of course, but that double standard of “make non-black characters black but not vise versa”
@@nicelight7794 you don’t need to claim “fixing the art” to know when it’s done for the wrong intention. It’s stolen from the Dandadan anime anyways. Also, now you’ve lost me. Bringing up whitewashing history? What? You are just lying and pretending that you agree with Whyt now. What character or whatever was changed from black to white in history? There has been more blackwashing within 4 years than all of history.
Let's not forget a lot of those hate accounts are pretending to be Japanese to try and insult black people and artist... they did it with the Yasuke happened youtube trailer.. ppl are just miserable in real life
@geardestroy what confirmation was given because when you have multiple Japanese historians, museums, art, and stories that predate the games conception (He even in multiple other games) about him existing and his importance, you better come with some actual evidence for the contrary.. and their age factors as well because i bet i can go up to plenty of western American youth under a certain age ask them who the first African-American pilots were to fly in a combat squadron during World War II and they're gonna look sideways or seem like it's something made up.
I agree with this take. Art is art. Just let it be. The internet is enhancing this situation beyond what it really is. Create what you want to create no matter race, gender, religion etc.
The issue is hypocrisy on twitter japanese artists get harassed time and time again over slight color differences on character skin tones people cant be surprised there is finally backlash
"Finally"? lol Black artists and cosplayers have been getting harassed forever by YT weebs. They don't want us in these spaces at all and will use any excuse to drive us out of it which is funny considering we are always on the forefront of this shit every time. So quit making excuses for them, they hate you too. Sorry to tell you....
The problem is that when the opposite happens, people react in a much worse way. They took down a Korean artist's account because he used a photo of a black woman as a REFERENCE to draw a blonde woman. People went crazy and attacked another artist for supposedly drawing Samira from LoL "white." He just hadn't painted the drawing, but people had already assumed something and started attacking him. Something funny happened recently related to this. An artist had made a fanart of Mel from Arcane the way she really is, but people said he had drawn her looking white, and he even apologized (something totally unnecessary) and said he was improving his art. Now, why would an artist who only draws on top of a print of the anime to change Japanese characters to black, besides the hate that was not much, gain a lot of followers?
this is why artist are afraid to draw POC character. you colour them slightly lighter? RACIST you didn't draw their black feature right? RACIST you whitewash a (INSERT ALIEN CHARACTER THAT WAS CONSIDERED BLACK CODED) white? RACIST honestly, its tiring, i follow a lot of artist and when i see some of them draw a black character, most of it, almost always got negatives comment about how white they are colouring the characters when its just the artist's colour pallete leaning toward more light colour smh
The only thing we as black artist and writers can do is create our own. What the other races do not understand in regards to black art in America as a whole, is we only get funded when it’s supporting the major institutions agendas. Prior we were collectively as a people being held back via funding, exposure, and being able to tell stories we desire via gatekeeping within comics, publishing, movie industry, and even music despite jazz, hip hop and the other genres we worked within. Also, collectively we have been in survival mode even post the 60's in America. Growing up I can’t name 1 black artist/writer that was major influence in video games, comics, manga, anime, sci fi, fantasy, or movies. These ideas are there, but who would have funded that vision to the mainstream America or even Europe? In Japan, the Japanese deal with the Japanese only in regards to publishing, producing and creating works of anime, manga, light novels, video games and movies. In America these institutions that could have the potential to provide budgets, and marketing for works that could go global are all controlled by media corporations that are run by a specific group of people and putting original black stories pertaining to fantasy, sci fi, super heroes, books, movies and video games aren’t on their list of things they would approve. They only pushed the ghetto, thug, gang, drug dealing media in America towards blacks and shown it on tv in excess to promote a life style that would destroy and kill the black American population and fuel the prison system. In Japan there is no such agenda against their own population. So, in 2024-2025 and beyond we as black artist, writers, and creators, have much examples we can learn from white people and Asian creators and even their publishing and marketing and creator tools. We must be independent, publish our own works and also have great original stories for these characters to demonstrate their narrative value. Create your own worlds, do your own vision and its okay to be influenced from Japan and Europe and America they have had several decades of uncontested content to give to the world. It’s time for us to do the same but not without making sure its quality work that has been thoroughly been thought out and edited and polished. What we produce should reflect the best of our minds and imaginations, and spiritual essence. In the modern day, the gatekeeping is at a minimum and we must take advantage of all the lessons and previous foundations we can learn from all across the world as all artist and writers do and make our own work the best it can be. Race swapping characters is ultimately lazy for artist. Create your own vision, your own world, your own cast of characters, your own story and you can add elements from different cultures, races, religions, mythologies and philosophies to have something to say of its own merit to share with the world. It’s up to us to break the stereotypes and break up the lack of our own significant contributions to the pool of intellectual properties that influence the world. We have so much talent but it has to be refined into skill and put into practice. We cannot sit on the sidelines blindly consuming other people’s works and not find some inspiration to do something of our own with it. Our cultures major problem is we are too much into consuming products instead of producing them. Also, for our young people it’s time to leave the thug trope behind and embrace who you truly are and not what the mainstream media and the world influenced by that ugly vision think you are. We are better than that and it’s time to prove it. Embrace being a nerd, embrace being different, embrace intelligence and spiritual inner truths. Find a philosophy for yourself and find your vision and bring it alive to the world. No one is going to give you a platform, a budget, or green light your imagination without you showing how valuable your own ideas are and how passionate you are about them. Study the masters, learn from the greats, have a list of influences but extract the best from them and recreate it in an original way. Not race swapping. Not character artwork of other people intellectual property, but extract as all great artist do, they take bits and pieces as reference to how to implement their own works. We are so far behind but with effort can make leaps and bounds. No more side line watching. No more blind consuming. When you read, watch, listen or play something, STUDY it. Understand its appeal, understand the motifs, themes, and craftsmenship that goes into it.
This is why I’m happy to see projects like Knight of Abyss and Black Sands anime in We Funder. These guys are spear heading their own projects with the support of the black community.
Genuinely love everything about this!! As someone who's intimidated but also determined in the current landscape of media as a whole, your words are truly comforting. Many beloved works of the here and now EARNED their places in culture and media, be it by reiterating on classic fairytales/myths/stories or by being its own thing on a solid, masterful foundation. Nowadays, the window of opportunity to be seen has dramatically widened, and the means to find new, amazing stories (and WHERE to find those stories) has tremendously expanded; American industries are longer the main sources of storytelling anymore. Yes, the competition has equally increased - if, not moreso - but that just means there's more genuine gems to find, if you truly look for them. (At its heart competition is a good thing.) Said gems are not found in raceswap "fixes", it's not found in being "as inclusive as possible and trying to please everyone" (as if such a thing was true), and it certainly isn't found in social media addicts who think they know better. It's found in people who genuinely wish to be creative, hardworking, and hopeful in putting something interesting and imaginative out there. Thank you for your wonderful comment! It certainly put the wind back in my creative sails!💜
Johnny Somali have forever ruined the current atmosphere of things. I will forever stand by that. It's not left wing activists, right wing grifters, or any thing else. It's narcissists. I believe this is a universal thing everyone can blame Johnny Somali for. Just like how loving Luigi Mangione and hating his enemies is also both Left and right wing, all groups despise hypocrites and narcs that made their own Ethnicity look bad. Johnny Somali and Luigi Mangione have united the Left and Right, on how hated Somali is and love Luigi is
I think for me the biggest issue with this topic is how in a lot of the media you we see 90% of a character, world, music coded as black, except for the 10% that should be the skin. I often say to this topic, if you want to use our hair, music, and vibes, then why aren’t we welcomed to be seen as well.
its not that its not good enough, the very people that do the black edits did not draw their fanart which is weird, its sad that a awesome character like Ogun, Killik Rung and my personal fav, Avdol got less recognition and fanart.
I think nobody should be complaining about fan art. It’s dumb. Kinda reminds me of white people who tell black cosplayers how they would look better as an actual dark character when they dress up as Japanese characters all the time. They try to call the fan art “woke” but it’s just fan art
Dude, you aren't even lying.I've been seeing this picture all over the internet, and I was under the impression that the artist was a groomer, or something because everybody was complaining like they did something evil. Seeing people just be mad that they made the characters black is like being in an episode of the twilight zone.
@@MightGuy15 Nice try in trying to put me in the same bag as the people you try to villanize, too bad for you that my problem is with the r@ c! ST va, not the fanart; and if the only thing you have to say is accusing others of crying then you're du mb as hell.
The way they bullied Okaruns English dub voice actor AJ Beckles till he deactivated his twitter was really messed up, all because he put that fan art edit as his profile pic, bro was a beacon of positivity, this is honestly the most racist I have ever seen an anime fandom be
I remember they were doing similar things to Anairis Quiñones and Kimberly Brooks when they were announced as the VAs of Mirko and Nagatoro. Black anime VAs deserve better than this
No, this is justifyable push back, JP artiat had to deal with Western morons "fixing" their fan art if ghey drew white humanoid Knuckles, or certain black pomemon or splatoon characters were a lighter shade of brown. No, if those are the rules of engagement then guesa what, JP has every right to clap back and call these people on their cultural appropriation of their culture.
Aint it funny how the crowd spewing the "just make your own black characters" thing is also the same crowd who loses their minds every time a black character is revealed in a new piece of media?
@@nezumixp6744 Some people do. Some people on Twitter complained that In Fairly Odd Parents: A New Wish Cosmo and Wanda got a Black God kid. Some people said, "Why did they turn Timmy black." The show takes place in the future. People who know the show know their Fairly Odd Parents history know Cosmo and Wanda had multiple Godkids before Timmy so having a black Godkid makes sense.
The art is not a PROTEST, it's an act of LOVE. People are celebrating their favorite characters; we all project onto characters we love... From what I understand about all the "blackwashing" backlash (on the Japanese side, at least) is that they're misunderstanding that the black edits are more of a creative fantasy exercise, NOT a fixing. There are some trolls who "fix" art and throw a fit for stupid reasons, but 99% of them are not that; just purely fanart. People always use the excuse that if racial swapping is okay for lighter skin tones, then it should be okay for the other way around... so then "blackwashing" SHOULDN'T be okay. But I actually believe that if someone approached it from a noncombative approach is that it could be okay! But whenever someone lightens a darker characters complexion and features it's almost always a troll, or done from a hateful perspective. An example is a bud of mine wanted to cosplay a darker character (Big Band) but him being light toned made it a little awkward. He drew the character in many ways trying to get a feel of how he could make the cosplay work, he didn't post the work anywhere but I think he approached with care. There's a chance I could be thinking with biased though.
The problem isn’t making characters black or white or changing their race or anything. The problem is the double standards and hypocrisy certain groups of people have. Whyt, there are artists like Bkub most recently who drew characters like Marina from Splatoon where this group of people attacked the artist because they felt her skin color was “too white” and called Bkub racist for it. In Genshin Impact, when a new region called Natlan was releasing, this certain group of people wanted the characters of Natlan to be black because it was “supposed to represent Africa” and called Mihoyo racist for it. When a character is blackwashed, these people celebrate it but attack artists when certain characters aren’t drawn a shade darker than they like or feel a character looks too white. That’s the problem. The double standards of make or change people black but not make black/colored characters white. As an artist myself, I’m completely fine with race swap or being allowed to do anything with art as an artist. There’s another part to the story, these recent race swaps are malicious as in it’s not an original drawing but edited works of others art and calling it their own. They even charge money for it. This is not okay to be changing other people’s arts and altering it by changing a characters race to suit their selfish tastes and offering it as a service. Unfortunately, it’s gotten out of hand at this. People are race swapping black characters to look white now like the Clock Striker girl and your own character. There’s a tweet that really hits the nail on the head on the situation and from that tweets replies there seems to be be Japanese people who really puts the art of Clock Striker in high regards and praises , especially the main character. Whyt, it’s deeper but at the same time shallow of a problem. Not everyone has a problem with changing something, the problem are the morally righteous bad actors who go around attacking others pretending as if they’re “protecting people of color and culture” as if it’s needed. As well as stopping edits of other people’s works. It hypocrisy and double standards that’s the problem.
Thank you for saying this, the people who act as though their protecting us are always usually WP. The problem when they do act as though their protecting us is that the backlash always comeback on BP even if we have little to nothing to do with the situation. When they create these situations it makes it so that people who are r*a*c*i*s*t can come out of the wood works and say stuff like, "all BP are like this" or "they always the victim" all while claim to not be r*a*c*i*s*t. The sad truth is that BP aren't really in to anime as much as others, for example when I was growing up I'd say that every 1 out of 10 of BK watched anime but after the recent boom it probably jumped to 3 out of every BK watches anime which is still very low compared to other ethnic groups.
That's not the same couse that was the point that it was different countries this however is just black washing for the sake of it which comes off as disrespectful as a black dude I don't fuck with this shit it's racist either or but the motivation is important and if no one is in agreement that this is okay then there's a problem miku was the acception this isn't it's just rude
@@OMIBR But i saw millions of people join the trend in drawing her that way and miku is more popular than Dandadan. I think people just like to hop on a bandwagon to start harassing people
It’s the fact that we’ve been drawing DBZ/Naruto characters black since elementary school but when it’s *their* favorite character/anime, it’s an issue. I hate ppl.
Seeing yourself in a story is really shallow. As a black person myself I don't care about seeing black people in anime projects and most people would agree I mean it's made in Japan and just because u see a black person doesn't mean the character is interesting stop trying to force a series to relate to you the Japanese are right about us some of us can't depict fiction from reality cause if this was a white wash video of a popular black character everyone would be upset like seriously people come at Japanese artist over a certain shading of a dark tone character
so when Japanese artists draw japanese characters in japanese inspired stories, are they shallow? this is a weak arguement. if YOU don't care, fine. Some people want to be the change they want to see respectfully, and have their ideas expressed too. that is all. no one is forcing anyone to look or do anything. It's also don to combat negative stereotypes, when other less informed people tell your story for you inaccurately. it was fun curious fanart, the end.
According to a tweet made by Okarun's english voice actor, POC should be voiced by the culture they represent to complain about black characters being voiced by white people, but then he goes and voices a japanesse character despite not even being asian, isnt that hipocrite?
They don't mind Black voices but they do mind "seeing" black people. Theirs tons of charecters who are white but voiced by black people Darth Vader being among them. But could you imagine the outrage if someone drew a black Darth Vader or Anikin Skywalker? Holy smokes it would be horrifying...
At the end of the day, its just fanart and i love fanart cause creative freedom. By the one god, i hate weebs and internet folk nowadays. 🙄 We love the FACTS you give here, brutha. 😎
There are black characters in anime. I've seen them. I don't count nemekians or fishmen. I mean, actually, human black characters. Plus, Japanese people don't care about Western politics. They've gotten better with having black people in anime,but other thsn that, they don't really care.
It's a fundamentally different purpose. When artists make versions of existing characters black, its almost always a reimagining of the work because they really like it and want to be a part of it/see themselves in it. When people make black/other POC characters white, it is usually done out of retaliation, disrespect, trolling, whatever. These are not the same. The weird moral superiority of the "fixing" or "un-woke" is just cringe and embarrassing... One of the worst examples I've seen is the hate campaign against Thumin for *well over a year* because she drew herself in Kiki's Delivery Service. Not a redraw of the characters, just herself. If you reimagine a character as black, you're disrespectful. But if you write something original with black characters its woke/DEI 🤔🤔🤔 You can't win with these people anyway, so don't bother caring. You never see them complain about Spiderverse, ATLA, Arcane, Nimona, etc. Because diversity doesn't determine the quality. The writing does. They just use badly written or flawed media to blame 'diversity' because they want to stop seeing it. If representation doesn't matter, why is it so important that every character looks like you? 🤔 Let them be miserable.
The intentions behind the artwork matter, this even ties back to something that makes your art go from beginner to pro Emphasis Genderbend gets a pass cuz in most cases it ends up looking good but race swap will get heat simply because people are still sensitive on such matters. What I hate about this drama is the set of events it triggers, it spreads like a fire, artist 1 draws black deku, artist 2 gets offended and draws white onyakopokon. Then it just grows more and more. People need to learn to that you can block an account if you don't wanna see the stiff they post Not everything on social media is for you
First mistake was posting things on Twitter at all ngl. It's where common sense goes to die and people want to be angry about everything without thinking abiut anything. You are spitting facts though.
Just my opinion that I don't see mentioned often: An artist should respect the intentions of the creator behind the source material when making fanart with good intentions. If they don't want their characters to be race-swapped or gender-bent or anything else, it is how it is. How internet strangers react to it shouldn't be relevant as long as the source is respected and whatever is being represented ins't being done in a malicious way? I think? Feel free to discuss or point out flaws in my logic here, I'm trying to find a solution for these problems because it's a frequent phenomenon in today's media that causes so much uneccessary conflict. Would love to see people come together, celebrate differences and just enjoy creativity again without all this division.
As someone who is an artist myself, you do you. Those of us who understand that, in the end, it's all fiction, don't really care that much, you can imagine that character however you desire in your own world, because they aren't real anyways, so it doesn't really matter how you envision them...and it is in your own space that you are envisioning them, not in any official or copywritten capacity, so what others comment about how you experiment with ideas inside your own world, has no bearing on anything that actually matters. The truly "unwoke" thing to do is just stop giving a damn about what anyone thinks about your own unofficial thoughts or experiments. For example, I could decide that, in my world of artistry, I could create a "what if Oolong from DB was a super-powered being infinitely stronger than Superman" story...and sure, I'd catch flack for it and even catch hate for it, but who cares in the end, it's not their idea and I didn't change any of those characters in any official capacity, I basically just said "here's my idea that might be neat in my own head, let's test it visually and see how it looks to me" and then share the idea and as long as you are not stealing someone else's intellectual property and trying to officially change it into your idea, then no harm is being done, it is just you having fun. Devil Artemis does this kind of thing all the time and it's genuinely entertaining to see what kind of wild shit he comes up with. Again, my point is that it's your own idea contained within your own world, so you do you. By the way, great job with Apple Black, I've enjoyed reading the first volume after buying it. I like your careful planning and world-building.
Idk if you seen them get mad at this new naughty dog game but they don't like bald women now all of a sudden 😂 they saying that don't look like women now smh
The Japanese is mad because of the double standard, for the most part(others is using an anime SS and traced it to sell or something else). They are seeing the pattern where a black edits is free to go or even praised most of the time and a fanart that have a darkskin 5% lighter get bashed and harassed to no end. For example, The Miles Morales art that had harsh blue light on his skin, that Octopus girl from Splatoon which was drawn by BKub, POP Team Epic Author and got harassed by "these" people for "Whitewashing" her, Ariel from Little Mermaid, where the Artist draw the Original Ariel and got bashed by the Disney "Ariel" Fan, and many more. Can't blame them for getting mad now. You can say it was "the minority of people" that do these harassment but the number say otherwise, these harasser got 50K, 100K or even 300K likes on their harassment tweets which make them widely agreed with and when people do a Fanart like Puss in Boots white, or Piccolo being white or even Knuckles as White, these people is fast af to harass them, its fanart, like you said, but the black edit got more acceptance than the other because it is a Double Standard, the main problem people had with this controversy in the first place.
Honestly if i get the chance when i make my charecters ill draw several versions. Black, white, Asian, whatever. If it takes a little bit more effort for people to feel included im willing to put in that effort tbh...
To the people that have the cheek to say "OMG where is this racism coming from?". First of all, is not racism, JP artist got fed up of being harassed by people when they made innocent fanart about characters and were told "ugh, why are you erasing black characters?" when most of them were either tanned, gyaru, or not even african american at all. This are the same people that celebrated when years ago an artist that made a Steven Universe character "too thin" was harassed to the point they wanted to "rage quit life". Finally Japan said enough and decided to clap back, and now? Now you cry "wow wow wow, where is this coming from? This is innocent fanart, why yall racist?". Simple answer, the japanese caved to your rethoric, and now they are gonna held YOU to YOUR standards. "It just innocent fanart who cares?" It always was, but never to you, they were characters created by japanese, but as soon as they were slightly tanned you claimed as black and as YOUR property, and attacked anyone that didn't do them justice. This has been a thing for years that YOU started, Japan is just giving you a taste of your own medicine.
As long as you approach story telling from a motivation to create entertaining and authentic stories, diversity and inclusion will follow. There is tons of rich history, religions, and mythologies that can be utilized for amazing story telling purposes. The world is not scarce of interesting and diverse cultures. Unfortunately nowadays the approach to diversity is simply to check off a box without any real thought as to why they are there, or authors are simply trapped in there own bubble and completely forgoe an opportunity to draw inspiration from things they don't know. As a community of artists, authors, writers, and story telling enthusiasts, its important as a whole we encourage the sharing our cultures with one another so we as humans can function as a whole and not a bunch of separate groups quarrelling over trivial matters. This philosophy can be applied to about any field of study, but story telling is the best way to share any sort of history in a fun and engaging manner.
I say that all the time, man, it's just fan art. It's so frustrating how everybody thinks that fan art has to be some statement against pop culture or some big grandiose b******* that's a threat to democracy. People used to do this all the time in the 90s and 80s, we even had black versions of heroes from films like bruce leroy. If he came out today, he'd probably be canceled.
Momo and her friend group are "Gyarus", getting a lot of their accent, fashion and overall style from Californian women. We're all borrowers of culture in this interconnected world. The sooner we learn to accept that about each other, the better off we will be in all creative fields!!
I giggled when you talked about the gender bending topic. Yeah I ain't even gonna leave my input on that subject because what I think doesn't really matter.
I have no problem with any fanart and race/sex swapping. The problem is when it’s used to virtue signal no matter the beliefs. Non-paid, or people without a professional or political connection should be able to express themselves how they want. Professional people come with an added level of responsibility tho. It’s not what you do, it’s why you do it.
My only problem with the edit is they're selling it. I have no problem with black fan art or free edit (one of my OC is literally just black Hermit Mio from Edens Zero)
I do think the funny part about their arguingment "If they made BP white" and Marvel did he's called White Wolf and he's the leader of the Wakandian secret police.
love how y'all say this exact like yet can never define what "lazy representation" is, and every example y'all give doesn't even match y'all's definition
That batman is an alt universe batman so there's no designated race for the character and he character was never based on race.. and WALLACE (wally) west and WALLY west are two separate characters.😂 they're actually cousins.@@WeebGuru6
I have mixed feelings about race swapping on one hand I prefer to stick to the script on the other hand it helps people of color get work in a world where companies insist on making reboots and remakes. It's nice to see people of color make money. Also, they can still give a good performance. Also its easier to not care. There are actual issues in the world.
I'm leaving my comment because it seems like many opinions here are influenced by political ideologies or some other bias. In my humble opinion, it's not appropriate to change a character's race, no matter what it is. If "whitewashing" bothers you, then "blackwashing" should also bother you; we shouldn't be hypocritical about such sensitive topics. Regarding the fan art, I’ve seen various opinions, but the most appropriate approach would be to respect the original creator’s vision. If you want to make fan art in your own style, go ahead, but try not to stray too far from the original concept. By the way, about Assassin’s Creed Shadows, it’s clear that Yasuke was not a samurai. The only book claiming otherwise, African Samurai by Thomas Lockley, is a work of historical fiction without reliable sources. The author himself has already stated that his book is not a historical account.
People forgetting blasians exist. A Japanese user told people to stop being so mean over this, and they STILL got talked over. A mean one had their tweet blow up, but not as much as the first one telling people to chill. To me this isn’t race swapping because blasians exist, but of course the world forgets. And like someone said, people didn’t cry over Brazilian Miku. Also, THERE WAS A BLACK MIKU AND PEOPLE STILL GOT MAD but didn’t say anything about Brazilian Miku. I HATE how people try to make blackwashing a thing. IT IS NOT. It will NEVER have the same history as whitewashing. WW is rooted in horrible history, BW is not. BW is racists’ excuse to have something to cry over. Also some people do have a point. When we do make our own stuff, most of the time it falls into a niche or obscurity or isn’t promoted. I’m trying to get my space dragon series adapted into either anime or manga, and I’m laying the groundwork for it. People tell me the concept is cool, but nobody is buying the stories I sell for the series (I’m not going the agent root cause they keep rejecting me). People who want more black characters, prop up and give more spotlight to more indie projects with black OCs. 4:44 I do the same thing too! I make sure I research specific items or things from other cultures before I add them in. Right now I’m doing more research into African indigenous mythologies because my work centers on space dragons, and I want to highlight these mythologies in my dragons’ culture. Usually anime/manga doesn’t pull from non-European cultures for their fantasy cultures, or when they do, Africa is excluded for being relevant inspiration. I have made Africa relevant to my dragons’ culture (unlike Mihoyo, I’m still mad about Natlan not having at least one relevant african dragon). I also research Japanese history, European history, and others for that added diversity, despite my main focus being the dragon culture. It’s fun! 9:50 I WAS WONDERING WHERE HER DANCE WAS TAKEN FROM! Some youtube short had the Rihanna video side by side but didn’t even say what it was 😭 14:07 ugh those kind of people. In my Natlan Day One stream, someone tried to argue against me wanting Natlan having more african inspiration, even though Natlan literally pulls from Aztec, Mayan, and Pacific Islander cultures as well, but when its Africa these people got a problem and yap about diversity (he literally did, and even stayed in stream making me uncomfortable). I didn’t use the word “diversity” because those kind of people get so triggered by it. I literally had to dance around the world, but my point to them was, if anything has dark skin its associated with “diversity and black people REEEEE” and these naysayers automatically hate it 🙄 any relevant discussion as to WHY people want diversity is shot down I rambled in this comment but this video has many good points. It’s really sad how badly this world (or, western culture I guess?) hates black people 😔 and when original black characters do exist from indie projects, these projects usually don’t get too popular. Look at Kenzera ZAU, or that in-progress african MMO. I didn’t see anyone propping up Kenzera :( and even Aerial Knight’s Never Yield seems to be fading into obscurity. 21:37 OMG CONGRATS ON THAT! I’d love for my dragon works to get that kind of recognition someday, especially in Japan since anime/manga is my main inspiration. That’s so cool and such a tremendous goal! 👏
You got a lot things wrong, your points completely missed their marks, and you clearly don’t understand the actual issue or haven’t even grasped the situation. Btw if whitewashing is wrong so is blackwashing. I can see how you’re part of the problem because you can’t see the problem.
Yes but there have been tan and dark skinned asians represented in anime. People just like to claim those characters as just black. People with albinism exist too. They are a small part of the population yet there is no albino art to represent people with albinism.
All of your comment lose sense when we remember that neither okarun nor Momo are even a little bit tan at all... And people are mad cause of the hypocrisy of blackwashers, like yours.
i am a black person who makes manga and my freinds change my black drawings like in the end of the volume i put the art and story by jayden sibanda and it was my black freinds and he took a picture and and made everyone white
1:30 They kinda get this response when the author doesn't do for fun but for Identity politics reasons. 6:42 is it? is it all for innocent fun? all of them? come on let's be honest here, you know this is not the only reason people raceswap characters. And i'm all for it,it's a drawing for god sake,it's fictional,you can make them be and do whatever you want,that's the beauty of it. however the politics behind, the "one side is ok, cool and brave" but the other way around isn't, would you ever call it black washing? no right?you probably would not,and that's the problem people see it,the double standard. i don't think just calling everyone that complaining about it racists but you "are't gonna say it" or is not all of them but majority of them is very productive, is like your mind is already made,you cannot see the other point of view so you villainize it. 14:04 same thing could be asked to all artists that change the race of a character to look like them "why do you want to make every character to look like you?" you see how it is a double standard? as you only criticize one side? if these artist want to represent they identity, swapping the identity of character that already exists is clearly not working,is just making people more dived.(what you are doing works way better,you are selling new storys, even Japanese readers are liking it) Manga and anime has nothing to do with being made in japan,it's a style and a way of telling a story that Osamo Tezuka pioneered ,so i would absolute call your works manga,and if it gets a animation i would 100% call it anime,because Osamo Tezuka works and the works inspired by it, inspired your style and way of story telling on your work. My English is kinda bad,but i hope you understood what i'm trying to say,and my point of view,hope your works find even more success in the future,and i will definitely read them.
I think the biggest issue that asian artist have with making characters black is the double standars online westerners tend to impose on them, just remember the drama it caused when a dark skined character is paint with a few lighter hues in pastel collors, it happened with characters like Marina from Splatoon, asian artist were attacked by american twitter for using other tones, not even race swapping, it also makes the people that bully others for that but support darkening the skin of lightskined characters looks like hipocrites and double standar, something most people hate
There is no double standard. People need to have an equal footing in order for there to be real double standards. White skin already is over over-representated in the media. Whether it’s in animation or real world media. Japanese people don’t like drawing darker skin, because Asian society is already colorist. The Japanese people go out of their way to make white/European characters in western settings. And we know why. White people don’t even have to ask for it. But it’s always a problem when Black society asks for more black representation. And not only that, most of anime & manga is already racially ambiguous to where the characters lean more European looking than Japanese. So that’s an even bigger plus for Europeans. The “race swapping” are just fan edits for ppl who already have lack of representation, which is really no different than cosplaying. Which Black cosplayers are also harassed for. 🙄 But the white cosplayers don’t get any backlash. Also when there are original Black characters, you still complain and call it “woke” or DEI. So I’m tired of this excuse. The reason why there’s a problem with this is because many people have hatred for Black people.
@ Stop with the strawman argument. Because this incident wasn’t about “fixing art”, it was a fan edit for God sakes. Please get over it because this doesn’t really bother you for the reasons that you ppl are saying.
@@VesperJester Strawman is literally what you're pulling by saying there's no double standards. There is, not by the 16 year old that made the edit but by other people like the va that randomly associated with this.
@ No, you’re pulling an argument out your behind just to argue with the point that you made up. Nobody was fixing art. This was a fan edit. This is no different than when people cosplay. So get over yourself. You don’t really care about this. People like you like to project your whiteness into anime/manga and when a Black person encroaches on that, you snowflakes throw a hissy fit.
We all know though, that if black characters were drawn white same people would blow the fuck up. Me personally, I dont see any problem with swapping anyone for fun, its fan art after all. But the double standards just infuriating
I think alot of wht folks ligite thing Anime charecters are about them though. I can't tel you how many wht folks think Goku is wht... Or Naruto is wht... So it's like wht people just kinda get to see the series as presented and just say "ohh well it's already about me" But blk people can't do that bec obviously our skin is darker so we definitely know the characters don't represent us...
@@KrazyStargazer Then go to Nigeria, they have banned white people from everything in the media, even commercials. There you won't have to worry about small amount ofblack characters representing you in TV.
For years Japanese people were fine with race swapping art, but after getting attacked many times for not even race swapping, but just slightly lighter skin tone, they are just done with the double standards.
@@DillonMaynard yeah but it's still not race swapping, It's an unhealthy obsession with race and skin color, I myself have had many different skin tones in my life, doesn't mean I race swapped myself.
I think it’s because the art was traced and being sold for money. Same with that fan made berserk anime. Making money off of something that has copyright.
@@DillonMaynard -then them blaming it on lighting- when they know how to use filters. Like they will take a mocha brown colored character and lighten them to chocolate milk! Like they have no sense of color theory or color picking! (But everything else is colored right!) Colorism , among other things, is rampant in asia mn counties like Japan. Their skin get super dark too but it's often seen as a bad thing.
The main issue is just the hypocrisy. Most people don't care if you make Goku black, but god forbid you make a dark skin characters skin 1% lighter. Both sides have a sensitivity issue that they need to learn to deal with. Diversity is good, stop limiting art.
I always appreciate people taking a shot at depicting blk charecters. But if you've never drawn a person of a different race it can be tricky. Like take Popo. Do I think Toriyama is racist? No. Is the depiction...unfortunate? Yes. But I have hope. I think eventually people will learn and adapt. Toriyama himself even got better at depicting blk charecters.
@KrazyStargazer pretty sure popo is based off genies and demons so I don't think the black comparison is legitimate. Toriyama does have other issues with black character designs though.
@@Harvestinberrysyeah. if im correct popo is closer to South Asian diety/folklore (i cant remember which religion specifically ). but as you said, its the unfortunate pre 2000s depiction (by many mangakas) of blk characters where we are drawn with big red lips and charcoal skin.
@Harvestinberrys ohh sure Popos a "genie" uhhh huuhh. But other black charecters like...and I'm not messing with you General Black ant exactly PC either... But the 80s or whenever OG DB came out was a different time so it's water under the bridge. But I'm still gonna call a spade a spade and say that ain't cashmoney~
To me it's a Japanese clap back for their artist being attacked for making a paler Marina (splatoon) their loud Twitter community is at arms for their culture being attacked by western culture warriors.
The Marina clap back started by another Japanese artist which is the crazy part. On Whyt's case they deadass white washed his characters for no reason at all. It's not about making your own characters they don't care
@@guesta9822that's the thing. It shouldn't have been a big deal but western twitter users tend to be very vocal about POC characters. I won't blame the japanese for returning the same energy
Just MY OPINION, I not a fan of race swapping u can do it if u want i just dont follow it, no hate to the artist who did dandadan, as a aspiring artist myself I just think the time and engery u put into that u could come up with something new and fresh, I follow so many old and new artist who create cool new original black characters, I have alot of new characters inspired by my caribbean culture that I want to do, drawing naruto if he was from trinidad is just not exciting or cool to me and I don't "see myself in it" again just my opinion. They can draw that it they want.
I’m not an artist but I am an amateur writer trying to finish a fantasy universe inspired by Africa. If someone wanted to draw my characters white or Asian (some already exist in the story) I honestly wouldn’t care. The canon I created doesn’t change because of that. it’s their imagination and art they can do what they like. The problem I’d have is if they said “fixed” I’d be like wtf you mean fixed? 😂 I’ve seen Black Panther shown as white and blonde I didn’t bat an eye it. So why some people are offended is beyond me tbh.
You never had set a foot in Japan or is that you are a black supremacist that belives other cultures stole everything from black people and nothing is original of other cultures?
@@geardestroyI could be wrong but I don't think they are referring to the yokai and myths though. I don't know enough about fashion to verify or rebuttal their claim but I believe they are just referring to fashion related to their non school clothes.
There was a 2099 genderbent picture that was on twitter and people were pissed someones gonna have a problem with it regardless this sucks but i dont get white washing or black wahsing orginal characters its best to make ur own jam or insert ur characters in that world couse it just comes off to me as black dude a bit mean like u cant relate to a character that isnt black come on
Im pretty sure doing "what if" art is fine doing "fixed your art" isn't No one had a problem when bowser got gender swap or brazilian hatsune miku which I find this whole thing kinda crazy I'm guessing this happened bc of the harrassment some Japanese artist received from western Twitter I remember few Japanese artist deleted their accounts bc they lightened the skin a little or not being dark enough of course there are some bad apples
Inferior minds always get triggered, especially those who are also outsiders of the culture but yet they are co-owners because of their representation never being an issue. Same stuff different day. Again like you said in the title "A few" who are insignificant in the grand scheme of things. I wouldn't focus on them or waste valuable time, energy, or thought into responding or acknowledging them. Although whether they know it or not the more they comment and give you attention they are contributing to your dream. While they go through life wishing they were in your position.
You really need to get informed about Yasuke. It's embarrassing. He was made up by a white guy in japan. Who referenced his own articles to solidify his stance.
The problem is double standards on which ones have been doing such horrible things then defending it and then getting upset they get backlash cause no one else can do that. Also just because in America you find it fine does not mean it's okay to do that in other places. In Japan it's deemed disrespectful to do that to mangakas works of art. Saying their work as it is was not good enough for you and our media is not good enough for you. Doing race swapping and then being rude just reinforces that and makes things worse because you are reinforcing that you deem Japanese people and media as lesser than you. If you want to be represented in media, make your own and help bring other people up. That is what I'm doing right now with the story I'm doing that has been a long haul cause I'm reading books on many places mythologies and stories by people who actually live there. Bring up smaller media and help them to get a spotlight, but also call out the racist and malicious people. Also the yasuke situation and assassin's Creed shadows is very different. Also actually anime is not just any animation. Children will call spongebob anime. It has to be in the style and avatar is not one. But there are others that actually would. But avatar is also in the style of american cartoons. Also i do like the story you are working on along with others. Do keep it up! Wish i could get Clock stricker signed. Also clock striker is considered manga cause its in the style of manga and respectful to us.
Yes you should draw your own characters. Yuji should never be 6lack. There's quite literally no reason, if you want one to exist in that world........ then use your brain and THINK of one. Not washing your favorite character because it aligns with your delusions. Notice they never made 6lack panther whyte? They created the character "The Whyte Wolf"......... Is that too hard for many of you?
we have saying in our country regarding this SJW stuff, "everything will be black in time.." and who suffer the most? the black people. who gave a pat on their own shoulder? the SJW.
It's a reverse racism...redrawing white character as black....same racist as redrwaing black character white. SO WhytManga and SaturdayAM supports reverse racism to make a profit
もっと多くの日本人が黒人編集に本気で問題を抱えているかもしれないので…私たちが日本の漫画、アニメのキャラクター、そしてその世界を愛していることは理解しています。彼らは私たちにインスピレーションを与えてくれます。しかし、ほとんどの黒人編集は、キャラクターが黒人だったらどのように見えるかを見るための楽しみのために行われます。日本、日本人、原作の漫画家、または誰かを軽蔑するために行われることはほとんどありません。私が話しているアメリカ人と西洋人は、私たちが日本人や日本、または他の人々よりも優れているとは思っていません。私はダンダダンの最初の2話を見たばかりですが、今のところ気に入っています。In case more Japanese people genuinely had issues with black edits... I understand we love Japanese manga, anime characters, and their worlds; they inspire us. But most black edits are done for fun to see what the characters would look like if they were black. It's almost never done to disrespect Japan, Japanese people, the original mangaka, or anyone. The Americans and Westerners I speak of DO NOT believe we are better than Japanese people or Japan or any people. I just saw the first two episodes of Dandadan, and I like them so far.
how is apple black
@@whytmangatv brother, Japanese people are not upset with black edits, they are upset that western people on twitter take their art and "fix them", that they get harrassed if they drew dark skinned characters with lighter tones, or draw characters like Knuckles as white. They are fed up with the double standard that they get harrassed for fan art but those same people praise black edits and parade them around, this is just the straw that broke the kammals back because it came from the official VO dub
@TimeBomb014X I don't think that specific edit was "fixing" or claiming supremacy though.
I'm pretty sure they literally said it was fan art...
@@KrazyStargazer The issue is still the double standard, JP artist are fed up with the West for always "fixing" their fanarts when it involves black or dark skinned characters
Yeah it's fine as long as it's not in the context of fixing or jumping someone.
Fanart are okay (white, black, asian, genderbend etc) it's fanart
However unwanted "Fixed" art, is were i draw the line.
This statement is full of common sense! Seems strange to find it online on such a video.
I think the outrage is more about how psychopathic the left is about skin colour. Artists have been threatened because darker characters were still not white but colourblind lighter. So it's about hypocrisy.
There are a lot of things that people miss. It's way more complex than "characters are "drawn" as black as a """fan art""" "
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Please continue 🫴🏽
Cheers, Lad, for having a common sense that is not common anymore
twitter i swear to god
The place where all rationality takes a jump off a 40 story building (and this was before the 9th circle of hell its become today with its new owner. Booty bots *and* Nazis everywhere now lol).
@@MegaHAZE21 facts
Worst app currently in existence tbh
@BreakingVel how about reddit???
I said this in another video, but as an artist myself with dark skin, I'm ok with race swapping characters as long as its not for the sake of "FIXING" the OG or claiming that the new race/skin color is somehow better than the original just because of that. Its a really dumb mindset and I mostly see this on Twitter only when people feel they need to "correct a wrong" or "want representation". (Also edits feel very lazy to me, regardless of what the intent is. Fan art that takes actual skill is cool though)
As long as its done for fun or for curiosity REGARDLESS of the race they're swapping the character to, I think its fair game.
The Brazilian Miku thing was the perfect example of it being done for fun. So many artists came together and even made other versions of her of other races and it was awesome.
There does seem to be a double standard when it comes to race swapping but I'm not even gonna speak on that. My points above still stand though.
It is worth noting that with this Dandadan edit, the artist made no claim of "fixing" the art at all. I've seen some ppl say their dogpiling of the artist is deserved because _other_ artists out there have done that "I fixed it for you" thing which is... interesting logic.
I agree with Whyt's take and yours though with swaps -- light to dark, dark to light, both are fine as long as your intent is pure and there's no notably bad impact.
That said, there's some complications that do come in when we (rightfully) account for the history of whitewashing (which blackwashing pales in comparison to) and how white/light ppl tend to see less obstacles in our society than brown/black ppl partially due to stuff like anti-blackness and colorism. I think that matters, because in our world where all of that is true and is partially why we see so few darker/black faces in some media, it's fair to want to push back against that. I just wish people would be more careful with how they do that. Immediately assuming worst intent from artists online and harassing them probably isn't the move, even though I know sometimes that's just ppl being frustrated with the state of things and wanting an outlet.
@nicelight7794 Yeah. I completely agree that the artist didn't deserve the hate at all. It didn't say fixed or anything and it looked pretty cool. The people not seeing the bigger picture and just being racist for no reason is inexcusable. And I am aware of the history of whitewashing (primarily) and blackwashing and how nuanced that topic is which is why I didn't go into it. I feel like it really depends on how the individual person feels on it. While I see your view-point on it, I personally just don't feel as strongly about it. That doesn't in anyway invalidate you or anyone else that does though.
But like we agreed, as long as there isn't any malicious intent for race swapping, there should never be a problem but somehow there always is on both sides 😂. Ngl though, the "KKK" REALLY came out with this Dandadan fanart drama, like WOW.
Its actually an inferior trait to have to think that way especially when you expend so much energy into it. Truth is its usually coming from outside groups who think they own everything, yet can't fix their inferiority complexes.
@@pkjose1343 you know it. The edits are horrible, taking other people’s works, altering it and even charging others for it? That’s disgraceful and disrespectful. It’s been its own unique problem for a while actually, people claiming these edits as good representation just sucks. The separate but real issue isn’t the race swapping itself of course, but that double standard of “make non-black characters black but not vise versa”
@@nicelight7794 you don’t need to claim “fixing the art” to know when it’s done for the wrong intention. It’s stolen from the Dandadan anime anyways.
Also, now you’ve lost me. Bringing up whitewashing history? What? You are just lying and pretending that you agree with Whyt now. What character or whatever was changed from black to white in history? There has been more blackwashing within 4 years than all of history.
Let's not forget a lot of those hate accounts are pretending to be Japanese to try and insult black people and artist... they did it with the Yasuke happened youtube trailer.. ppl are just miserable in real life
Actually theres some that are really japanesse and the Yasuke thing it was confirmed Ubisoft hire a guy who faked things in his book about Yasuke
@geardestroy what confirmation was given because when you have multiple Japanese historians, museums, art, and stories that predate the games conception (He even in multiple other games) about him existing and his importance, you better come with some actual evidence for the contrary.. and their age factors as well because i bet i can go up to plenty of western American youth under a certain age ask them who the first African-American pilots were to fly in a combat squadron during World War II and they're gonna look sideways or seem like it's something made up.
I agree with this take. Art is art. Just let it be. The internet is enhancing this situation beyond what it really is. Create what you want to create no matter race, gender, religion etc.
the beauty in art is that is limited only by our imagination.
I agree, however unfortunately, this means the actual issue is deflected.
The issue is hypocrisy on twitter japanese artists get harassed time and time again over slight color differences on character skin tones people cant be surprised there is finally backlash
"Finally"? lol
Black artists and cosplayers have been getting harassed forever by YT weebs. They don't want us in these spaces at all and will use any excuse to drive us out of it which is funny considering we are always on the forefront of this shit every time. So quit making excuses for them, they hate you too. Sorry to tell you....
'slight color difference' and its blatant whitewashing lol
the difference is that we want to see ourselves, but they dont want to see us. period lol
The problem is that when the opposite happens, people react in a much worse way. They took down a Korean artist's account because he used a photo of a black woman as a REFERENCE to draw a blonde woman. People went crazy and attacked another artist for supposedly drawing Samira from LoL "white." He just hadn't painted the drawing, but people had already assumed something and started attacking him. Something funny happened recently related to this. An artist had made a fanart of Mel from Arcane the way she really is, but people said he had drawn her looking white, and he even apologized (something totally unnecessary) and said he was improving his art. Now, why would an artist who only draws on top of a print of the anime to change Japanese characters to black, besides the hate that was not much, gain a lot of followers?
that is how victim card works, ignore reality and imagine a different one
this is why artist are afraid to draw POC character.
you colour them slightly lighter? RACIST
you didn't draw their black feature right? RACIST
you whitewash a (INSERT ALIEN CHARACTER THAT WAS CONSIDERED BLACK CODED) white? RACIST
honestly, its tiring, i follow a lot of artist and when i see some of them draw a black character, most of it, almost always got negatives comment about how white they are colouring the characters when its just the artist's colour pallete leaning toward more light colour smh
The only thing we as black artist and writers can do is create our own. What the other races do not understand in regards to black art in America as a whole, is we only get funded when it’s supporting the major institutions agendas. Prior we were collectively as a people being held back via funding, exposure, and being able to tell stories we desire via gatekeeping within comics, publishing, movie industry, and even music despite jazz, hip hop and the other genres we worked within. Also, collectively we have been in survival mode even post the 60's in America. Growing up I can’t name 1 black artist/writer that was major influence in video games, comics, manga, anime, sci fi, fantasy, or movies. These ideas are there, but who would have funded that vision to the mainstream America or even Europe?
In Japan, the Japanese deal with the Japanese only in regards to publishing, producing and creating works of anime, manga, light novels, video games and movies. In America these institutions that could have the potential to provide budgets, and marketing for works that could go global are all controlled by media corporations that are run by a specific group of people and putting original black stories pertaining to fantasy, sci fi, super heroes, books, movies and video games aren’t on their list of things they would approve. They only pushed the ghetto, thug, gang, drug dealing media in America towards blacks and shown it on tv in excess to promote a life style that would destroy and kill the black American population and fuel the prison system. In Japan there is no such agenda against their own population.
So, in 2024-2025 and beyond we as black artist, writers, and creators, have much examples we can learn from white people and Asian creators and even their publishing and marketing and creator tools. We must be independent, publish our own works and also have great original stories for these characters to demonstrate their narrative value. Create your own worlds, do your own vision and its okay to be influenced from Japan and Europe and America they have had several decades of uncontested content to give to the world. It’s time for us to do the same but not without making sure its quality work that has been thoroughly been thought out and edited and polished.
What we produce should reflect the best of our minds and imaginations, and spiritual essence. In the modern day, the gatekeeping is at a minimum and we must take advantage of all the lessons and previous foundations we can learn from all across the world as all artist and writers do and make our own work the best it can be. Race swapping characters is ultimately lazy for artist. Create your own vision, your own world, your own cast of characters, your own story and you can add elements from different cultures, races, religions, mythologies and philosophies to have something to say of its own merit to share with the world. It’s up to us to break the stereotypes and break up the lack of our own significant contributions to the pool of intellectual properties that influence the world. We have so much talent but it has to be refined into skill and put into practice.
We cannot sit on the sidelines blindly consuming other people’s works and not find some inspiration to do something of our own with it. Our cultures major problem is we are too much into consuming products instead of producing them. Also, for our young people it’s time to leave the thug trope behind and embrace who you truly are and not what the mainstream media and the world influenced by that ugly vision think you are. We are better than that and it’s time to prove it. Embrace being a nerd, embrace being different, embrace intelligence and spiritual inner truths. Find a philosophy for yourself and find your vision and bring it alive to the world. No one is going to give you a platform, a budget, or green light your imagination without you showing how valuable your own ideas are and how passionate you are about them. Study the masters, learn from the greats, have a list of influences but extract the best from them and recreate it in an original way. Not race swapping. Not character artwork of other people intellectual property, but extract as all great artist do, they take bits and pieces as reference to how to implement their own works. We are so far behind but with effort can make leaps and bounds. No more side line watching. No more blind consuming. When you read, watch, listen or play something, STUDY it. Understand its appeal, understand the motifs, themes, and craftsmenship that goes into it.
This is why I’m happy to see projects like Knight of Abyss and Black Sands anime in We Funder. These guys are spear heading their own projects with the support of the black community.
Genuinely love everything about this!! As someone who's intimidated but also determined in the current landscape of media as a whole, your words are truly comforting. Many beloved works of the here and now EARNED their places in culture and media, be it by reiterating on classic fairytales/myths/stories or by being its own thing on a solid, masterful foundation.
Nowadays, the window of opportunity to be seen has dramatically widened, and the means to find new, amazing stories (and WHERE to find those stories) has tremendously expanded; American industries are longer the main sources of storytelling anymore. Yes, the competition has equally increased - if, not moreso - but that just means there's more genuine gems to find, if you truly look for them. (At its heart competition is a good thing.) Said gems are not found in raceswap "fixes", it's not found in being "as inclusive as possible and trying to please everyone" (as if such a thing was true), and it certainly isn't found in social media addicts who think they know better. It's found in people who genuinely wish to be creative, hardworking, and hopeful in putting something interesting and imaginative out there.
Thank you for your wonderful comment! It certainly put the wind back in my creative sails!💜
@@petalpencil1397 YES!
Honestly, I feel like even if the artist were making original black characters, most of those folks would still find something to complain about.
They already do that. They call it either “woke” or DEI. 🙄
@@VesperJester on God🤣🤣🤣
@@VesperJester and it's always the same b/tch ahh 🧑🏾 with moe anime pfps it's almost tiring
They're more than likely mad that the black character in question isn't a racist caricature.
kinda,but they would be call out more, by it.
i just watched arcane and did not see people complaining about the character ekko.
My brother I love your work, your style, Saturday AM, Apple Black and especially Clock Strikers. I need more Clock Strikers in my life NOW
Johnny Somali have forever ruined the current atmosphere of things. I will forever stand by that.
It's not left wing activists, right wing grifters, or any thing else. It's narcissists. I believe this is a universal thing everyone can blame Johnny Somali for.
Just like how loving Luigi Mangione and hating his enemies is also both Left and right wing, all groups despise hypocrites and narcs that made their own Ethnicity look bad.
Johnny Somali and Luigi Mangione have united the Left and Right, on how hated Somali is and love Luigi is
I think for me the biggest issue with this topic is how in a lot of the media you we see 90% of a character, world, music coded as black, except for the 10% that should be the skin.
I often say to this topic, if you want to use our hair, music, and vibes, then why aren’t we welcomed to be seen as well.
Yo, imagine thinking you own a genre of music or style of hair.
@@jtdarelli2362 They created it 💀💀💀
Wished I could've LIKED this video 1Million times!
Keep up the excellent work WM!!
They took Jesus n turn him white, we don’t say none 😂
Most cultures that use that imaginary - have a version of Jesus as their own race, ‘They’ are not the only ones. ‘God is within’ and all that bs 😅
my point exactly, so it shouldn’t be an issue if someone wants to express a character as a different race if everybody doing it
and yet when a new black character is created, the character is never good enough. it's just white or fetishism with asian girls for these jokers.
That ain't true, stop creating false scenarios to villanize people Lmao.
its not that its not good enough, the very people that do the black edits did not draw their fanart which is weird, its sad that a awesome character like Ogun, Killik Rung and my personal fav, Avdol got less recognition and fanart.
I think nobody should be complaining about fan art. It’s dumb. Kinda reminds me of white people who tell black cosplayers how they would look better as an actual dark character when they dress up as Japanese characters all the time. They try to call the fan art “woke” but it’s just fan art
Dude, you aren't even lying.I've been seeing this picture all over the internet, and I was under the impression that the artist was a groomer, or something because everybody was complaining like they did something evil. Seeing people just be mad that they made the characters black is like being in an episode of the twilight zone.
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Another one missing the fact that the va is a huge racist hypocrite...
It's woke, cry about it.
@@giornogiostar3214 aren't y'all the ones crying instead of just ignoring the things that piss you off,
@@MightGuy15
Nice try in trying to put me in the same bag as the people you try to villanize, too bad for you that my problem is with the r@ c! ST va, not the fanart; and if the only thing you have to say is accusing others of crying then you're du mb as hell.
when I see videos like this I’m glad i deleted Twitter. That shits been wack af since 2016
It's basically The Little Mermaid Controversy all over again Sensei! 🤦🏿
The way they bullied Okaruns English dub voice actor AJ Beckles till he deactivated his twitter was really messed up, all because he put that fan art edit as his profile pic, bro was a beacon of positivity, this is honestly the most racist I have ever seen an anime fandom be
I remember they were doing similar things to Anairis Quiñones and Kimberly Brooks when they were announced as the VAs of Mirko and Nagatoro. Black anime VAs deserve better than this
They not fans they just racist elon cucked trolls that are jumping on to sow discord and cause rifts
No, this is justifyable push back, JP artiat had to deal with Western morons "fixing" their fan art if ghey drew white humanoid Knuckles, or certain black pomemon or splatoon characters were a lighter shade of brown. No, if those are the rules of engagement then guesa what, JP has every right to clap back and call these people on their cultural appropriation of their culture.
if only you know the true story
By putting a black OKARUN on his profile picture he indirectly encouraged reverse racism...it's a good thing he deleted his twitter account.
Aint it funny how the crowd spewing the "just make your own black characters" thing is also the same crowd who loses their minds every time a black character is revealed in a new piece of media?
What do mean🤨
Lmao no one does that
@@nezumixp6744oh yes they do, an example is Miles Morales
@@Deeviiouss You must be thinking of a very small crowd because almost everyone i know loves miles morales and the spiderverse movies
@@nezumixp6744 Some people do. Some people on Twitter complained that In Fairly Odd Parents: A New Wish Cosmo and Wanda got a Black God kid. Some people said, "Why did they turn Timmy black." The show takes place in the future. People who know the show know their Fairly Odd Parents history know Cosmo and Wanda had multiple Godkids before Timmy so having a black Godkid makes sense.
Its art, draw what you want. Its just bullying and trying to pick on people for creating what they want
The art is not a PROTEST, it's an act of LOVE. People are celebrating their favorite characters; we all project onto characters we love...
From what I understand about all the "blackwashing" backlash (on the Japanese side, at least) is that they're misunderstanding that the black edits are more of a creative fantasy exercise, NOT a fixing. There are some trolls who "fix" art and throw a fit for stupid reasons, but 99% of them are not that; just purely fanart.
People always use the excuse that if racial swapping is okay for lighter skin tones, then it should be okay for the other way around... so then "blackwashing" SHOULDN'T be okay. But I actually believe that if someone approached it from a noncombative approach is that it could be okay! But whenever someone lightens a darker characters complexion and features it's almost always a troll, or done from a hateful perspective.
An example is a bud of mine wanted to cosplay a darker character (Big Band) but him being light toned made it a little awkward. He drew the character in many ways trying to get a feel of how he could make the cosplay work, he didn't post the work anywhere but I think he approached with care. There's a chance I could be thinking with biased though.
The problem isn’t making characters black or white or changing their race or anything. The problem is the double standards and hypocrisy certain groups of people have. Whyt, there are artists like Bkub most recently who drew characters like Marina from Splatoon where this group of people attacked the artist because they felt her skin color was “too white” and called Bkub racist for it. In Genshin Impact, when a new region called Natlan was releasing, this certain group of people wanted the characters of Natlan to be black because it was “supposed to represent Africa” and called Mihoyo racist for it. When a character is blackwashed, these people celebrate it but attack artists when certain characters aren’t drawn a shade darker than they like or feel a character looks too white. That’s the problem. The double standards of make or change people black but not make black/colored characters white. As an artist myself, I’m completely fine with race swap or being allowed to do anything with art as an artist.
There’s another part to the story, these recent race swaps are malicious as in it’s not an original drawing but edited works of others art and calling it their own. They even charge money for it. This is not okay to be changing other people’s arts and altering it by changing a characters race to suit their selfish tastes and offering it as a service.
Unfortunately, it’s gotten out of hand at this. People are race swapping black characters to look white now like the Clock Striker girl and your own character. There’s a tweet that really hits the nail on the head on the situation and from that tweets replies there seems to be be Japanese people who really puts the art of Clock Striker in high regards and praises , especially the main character. Whyt, it’s deeper but at the same time shallow of a problem. Not everyone has a problem with changing something, the problem are the morally righteous bad actors who go around attacking others pretending as if they’re “protecting people of color and culture” as if it’s needed. As well as stopping edits of other people’s works. It hypocrisy and double standards that’s the problem.
Thank you for saying this, the people who act as though their protecting us are always usually WP. The problem when they do act as though their protecting us is that the backlash always comeback on BP even if we have little to nothing to do with the situation. When they create these situations it makes it so that people who are r*a*c*i*s*t can come out of the wood works and say stuff like, "all BP are like this" or "they always the victim" all while claim to not be r*a*c*i*s*t. The sad truth is that BP aren't really in to anime as much as others, for example when I was growing up I'd say that every 1 out of 10 of BK watched anime but after the recent boom it probably jumped to 3 out of every BK watches anime which is still very low compared to other ethnic groups.
No one complained about Brazilian Miku but now that Dandadan is black its going to far. 🙄
That's not the same couse that was the point that it was different countries this however is just black washing for the sake of it which comes off as disrespectful as a black dude I don't fuck with this shit it's racist either or but the motivation is important and if no one is in agreement that this is okay then there's a problem miku was the acception this isn't it's just rude
Well miku is not that much of a character, she is more of a mascot, so I can see why it didn't get as much attention
@@OMIBRIt was an entire trend
@@OMIBR But i saw millions of people join the trend in drawing her that way and miku is more popular than Dandadan. I think people just like to hop on a bandwagon to start harassing people
@@OMIBR "didn't get as much attention" LMAOOOOOO
Making Opal white is top 3 dirtiest shit I ever seen in my life
1:30 "the genderbent ones, they never get anything"
Don't tell him about the steven universe drama that happened with that
That one time an artist came up with a male-oriented equivalent to the gems ?
I think someone claimed gender bent art is transphobic.
It’s the fact that we’ve been drawing DBZ/Naruto characters black since elementary school but when it’s *their* favorite character/anime, it’s an issue.
I hate ppl.
Seeing yourself in a story is really shallow. As a black person myself I don't care about seeing black people in anime projects and most people would agree I mean it's made in Japan and just because u see a black person doesn't mean the character is interesting stop trying to force a series to relate to you the Japanese are right about us some of us can't depict fiction from reality cause if this was a white wash video of a popular black character everyone would be upset like seriously people come at Japanese artist over a certain shading of a dark tone character
so when Japanese artists draw japanese characters in japanese inspired stories, are they shallow? this is a weak arguement. if YOU don't care, fine. Some people want to be the change they want to see respectfully, and have their ideas expressed too. that is all. no one is forcing anyone to look or do anything. It's also don to combat negative stereotypes, when other less informed people tell your story for you inaccurately. it was fun curious fanart, the end.
@@whytmangatv i mean the japanese do it in their own country in their own industry but other than that i agree with you on most of your points
I was waiting. I WAS WAITING FOR YOUU
big news is CoryKenshin is back with Anime
According to a tweet made by Okarun's english voice actor, POC should be voiced by the culture they represent to complain about black characters being voiced by white people, but then he goes and voices a japanesse character despite not even being asian, isnt that hipocrite?
They don't mind Black voices but they do mind "seeing" black people.
Theirs tons of charecters who are white but voiced by black people Darth Vader being among them.
But could you imagine the outrage if someone drew a black Darth Vader or Anikin Skywalker?
Holy smokes it would be horrifying...
And that's exactly why he's getting "harassed", he just playing the victim card now.
That is for the purposes of translation. Those characters already have Japanese actors.
At the end of the day, its just fanart and i love fanart cause creative freedom. By the one god, i hate weebs and internet folk nowadays. 🙄 We love the FACTS you give here, brutha. 😎
I agree with everything said in this video. Shout out to the Forgot about Dre homage in the intro!
Twt racists harassing teenagers again, what a surprise
And these people will say black edits are disrespecting Japanese culture but will turn the other cheek when they use our music and style
There are black characters in anime. I've seen them. I don't count nemekians or fishmen. I mean, actually, human black characters. Plus, Japanese people don't care about Western politics. They've gotten better with having black people in anime,but other thsn that, they don't really care.
Anime was once called “JAPANimation” in the west. I thought that term was less confusing.
yeah but Jap is a slur so no wonder they didnt go by it
@@moimoiyoop we should just call it Japanese animation and comics then.
It's a fundamentally different purpose. When artists make versions of existing characters black, its almost always a reimagining of the work because they really like it and want to be a part of it/see themselves in it.
When people make black/other POC characters white, it is usually done out of retaliation, disrespect, trolling, whatever.
These are not the same. The weird moral superiority of the "fixing" or "un-woke" is just cringe and embarrassing...
One of the worst examples I've seen is the hate campaign against Thumin for *well over a year* because she drew herself in Kiki's Delivery Service. Not a redraw of the characters, just herself.
If you reimagine a character as black, you're disrespectful. But if you write something original with black characters its woke/DEI 🤔🤔🤔 You can't win with these people anyway, so don't bother caring. You never see them complain about Spiderverse, ATLA, Arcane, Nimona, etc. Because diversity doesn't determine the quality. The writing does. They just use badly written or flawed media to blame 'diversity' because they want to stop seeing it. If representation doesn't matter, why is it so important that every character looks like you? 🤔 Let them be miserable.
The intentions behind the artwork matter, this even ties back to something that makes your art go from beginner to pro
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Genderbend gets a pass cuz in most cases it ends up looking good but race swap will get heat simply because people are still sensitive on such matters.
What I hate about this drama is the set of events it triggers, it spreads like a fire, artist 1 draws black deku, artist 2 gets offended and draws white onyakopokon. Then it just grows more and more.
People need to learn to that you can block an account if you don't wanna see the stiff they post
Not everything on social media is for you
First mistake was posting things on Twitter at all ngl. It's where common sense goes to die and people want to be angry about everything without thinking abiut anything.
You are spitting facts though.
Just my opinion that I don't see mentioned often: An artist should respect the intentions of the creator behind the source material when making fanart with good intentions. If they don't want their characters to be race-swapped or gender-bent or anything else, it is how it is.
How internet strangers react to it shouldn't be relevant as long as the source is respected and whatever is being represented ins't being done in a malicious way? I think?
Feel free to discuss or point out flaws in my logic here, I'm trying to find a solution for these problems because it's a frequent phenomenon in today's media that causes so much uneccessary conflict. Would love to see people come together, celebrate differences and just enjoy creativity again without all this division.
As someone who is an artist myself, you do you.
Those of us who understand that, in the end, it's all fiction, don't really care that much, you can imagine that character however you desire in your own world, because they aren't real anyways, so it doesn't really matter how you envision them...and it is in your own space that you are envisioning them, not in any official or copywritten capacity, so what others comment about how you experiment with ideas inside your own world, has no bearing on anything that actually matters.
The truly "unwoke" thing to do is just stop giving a damn about what anyone thinks about your own unofficial thoughts or experiments.
For example, I could decide that, in my world of artistry, I could create a "what if Oolong from DB was a super-powered being infinitely stronger than Superman" story...and sure, I'd catch flack for it and even catch hate for it, but who cares in the end, it's not their idea and I didn't change any of those characters in any official capacity, I basically just said "here's my idea that might be neat in my own head, let's test it visually and see how it looks to me" and then share the idea and as long as you are not stealing someone else's intellectual property and trying to officially change it into your idea, then no harm is being done, it is just you having fun.
Devil Artemis does this kind of thing all the time and it's genuinely entertaining to see what kind of wild shit he comes up with.
Again, my point is that it's your own idea contained within your own world, so you do you.
By the way, great job with Apple Black, I've enjoyed reading the first volume after buying it.
I like your careful planning and world-building.
Idk if you seen them get mad at this new naughty dog game but they don't like bald women now all of a sudden 😂 they saying that don't look like women now smh
The Japanese is mad because of the double standard, for the most part(others is using an anime SS and traced it to sell or something else). They are seeing the pattern where a black edits is free to go or even praised most of the time and a fanart that have a darkskin 5% lighter get bashed and harassed to no end. For example, The Miles Morales art that had harsh blue light on his skin, that Octopus girl from Splatoon which was drawn by BKub, POP Team Epic Author and got harassed by "these" people for "Whitewashing" her, Ariel from Little Mermaid, where the Artist draw the Original Ariel and got bashed by the Disney "Ariel" Fan, and many more. Can't blame them for getting mad now.
You can say it was "the minority of people" that do these harassment but the number say otherwise, these harasser got 50K, 100K or even 300K likes on their harassment tweets which make them widely agreed with and when people do a Fanart like Puss in Boots white, or Piccolo being white or even Knuckles as White, these people is fast af to harass them, its fanart, like you said, but the black edit got more acceptance than the other because it is a Double Standard, the main problem people had with this controversy in the first place.
Honestly if i get the chance when i make my charecters ill draw several versions.
Black, white, Asian, whatever.
If it takes a little bit more effort for people to feel included im willing to put in that effort tbh...
So long as they're not saying "I fixed it" and it's more of an artistic endeavour I believe it's ok to explore some what if scenarios
12:01 you mean in fiction or manga specifically?
To the people that have the cheek to say "OMG where is this racism coming from?". First of all, is not racism, JP artist got fed up of being harassed by people when they made innocent fanart about characters and were told "ugh, why are you erasing black characters?" when most of them were either tanned, gyaru, or not even african american at all. This are the same people that celebrated when years ago an artist that made a Steven Universe character "too thin" was harassed to the point they wanted to "rage quit life". Finally Japan said enough and decided to clap back, and now? Now you cry "wow wow wow, where is this coming from? This is innocent fanart, why yall racist?". Simple answer, the japanese caved to your rethoric, and now they are gonna held YOU to YOUR standards. "It just innocent fanart who cares?" It always was, but never to you, they were characters created by japanese, but as soon as they were slightly tanned you claimed as black and as YOUR property, and attacked anyone that didn't do them justice. This has been a thing for years that YOU started, Japan is just giving you a taste of your own medicine.
As long as you approach story telling from a motivation to create entertaining and authentic stories, diversity and inclusion will follow. There is tons of rich history, religions, and mythologies that can be utilized for amazing story telling purposes. The world is not scarce of interesting and diverse cultures. Unfortunately nowadays the approach to diversity is simply to check off a box without any real thought as to why they are there, or authors are simply trapped in there own bubble and completely forgoe an opportunity to draw inspiration from things they don't know. As a community of artists, authors, writers, and story telling enthusiasts, its important as a whole we encourage the sharing our cultures with one another so we as humans can function as a whole and not a bunch of separate groups quarrelling over trivial matters. This philosophy can be applied to about any field of study, but story telling is the best way to share any sort of history in a fun and engaging manner.
I have had Japanese friend legit send me a manga and call it a "comic" to me in English. LOL!
I say that all the time, man, it's just fan art. It's so frustrating how everybody thinks that fan art has to be some statement against pop culture or some big grandiose b******* that's a threat to democracy. People used to do this all the time in the 90s and 80s, we even had black versions of heroes from films like bruce leroy. If he came out today, he'd probably be canceled.
Momo and her friend group are "Gyarus", getting a lot of their accent, fashion and overall style from Californian women. We're all borrowers of culture in this interconnected world. The sooner we learn to accept that about each other, the better off we will be in all creative fields!!
None of this is relevant. Who cares about fan art
Don't fix art... It's an insult to the artist.
The artist didn't claim to fix it what are you talking about.
I giggled when you talked about the gender bending topic. Yeah I ain't even gonna leave my input on that subject because what I think doesn't really matter.
I have no problem with any fanart and race/sex swapping. The problem is when it’s used to virtue signal no matter the beliefs. Non-paid, or people without a professional or political connection should be able to express themselves how they want. Professional people come with an added level of responsibility tho. It’s not what you do, it’s why you do it.
My only problem with the edit is they're selling it. I have no problem with black fan art or free edit (one of my OC is literally just black Hermit Mio from Edens Zero)
Bch, people sell fan art all the time.
@Amuro1X fan arts are allowed because you draw it yourself. Skin edits are technically tracing so you should not sell them
1:37 they don’t cuz that community would rather to everyone gay then black .
I do think the funny part about their arguingment "If they made BP white" and Marvel did he's called White Wolf and he's the leader of the Wakandian secret police.
There’s also literally a volume of black panther where agent Ross is the BP along with Steve rogers in the ultimate universe
I have a problem with it in official media when they say we need diversity but the pick the lazy route which gets on my nerves
love how y'all say this exact like yet can never define what "lazy representation" is, and every example y'all give doesn't even match y'all's definition
@ I hate that they race swapped Barbra Gordon in the capped crusaders I hate that they race swap Wally west
Thank you finally someone said it@@WeebGuru6
That batman is an alt universe batman so there's no designated race for the character and he character was never based on race.. and WALLACE (wally) west and WALLY west are two separate characters.😂 they're actually cousins.@@WeebGuru6
I have mixed feelings about race swapping on one hand I prefer to stick to the script on the other hand it helps people of color get work in a world where companies insist on making reboots and remakes. It's nice to see people of color make money. Also, they can still give a good performance. Also its easier to not care. There are actual issues in the world.
I'm leaving my comment because it seems like many opinions here are influenced by political ideologies or some other bias. In my humble opinion, it's not appropriate to change a character's race, no matter what it is. If "whitewashing" bothers you, then "blackwashing" should also bother you; we shouldn't be hypocritical about such sensitive topics.
Regarding the fan art, I’ve seen various opinions, but the most appropriate approach would be to respect the original creator’s vision. If you want to make fan art in your own style, go ahead, but try not to stray too far from the original concept.
By the way, about Assassin’s Creed Shadows, it’s clear that Yasuke was not a samurai. The only book claiming otherwise, African Samurai by Thomas Lockley, is a work of historical fiction without reliable sources. The author himself has already stated that his book is not a historical account.
People forgetting blasians exist. A Japanese user told people to stop being so mean over this, and they STILL got talked over. A mean one had their tweet blow up, but not as much as the first one telling people to chill.
To me this isn’t race swapping because blasians exist, but of course the world forgets. And like someone said, people didn’t cry over Brazilian Miku. Also, THERE WAS A BLACK MIKU AND PEOPLE STILL GOT MAD but didn’t say anything about Brazilian Miku.
I HATE how people try to make blackwashing a thing. IT IS NOT. It will NEVER have the same history as whitewashing. WW is rooted in horrible history, BW is not. BW is racists’ excuse to have something to cry over.
Also some people do have a point. When we do make our own stuff, most of the time it falls into a niche or obscurity or isn’t promoted. I’m trying to get my space dragon series adapted into either anime or manga, and I’m laying the groundwork for it. People tell me the concept is cool, but nobody is buying the stories I sell for the series (I’m not going the agent root cause they keep rejecting me). People who want more black characters, prop up and give more spotlight to more indie projects with black OCs.
4:44 I do the same thing too! I make sure I research specific items or things from other cultures before I add them in. Right now I’m doing more research into African indigenous mythologies because my work centers on space dragons, and I want to highlight these mythologies in my dragons’ culture. Usually anime/manga doesn’t pull from non-European cultures for their fantasy cultures, or when they do, Africa is excluded for being relevant inspiration. I have made Africa relevant to my dragons’ culture (unlike Mihoyo, I’m still mad about Natlan not having at least one relevant african dragon). I also research Japanese history, European history, and others for that added diversity, despite my main focus being the dragon culture. It’s fun!
9:50 I WAS WONDERING WHERE HER DANCE WAS TAKEN FROM! Some youtube short had the Rihanna video side by side but didn’t even say what it was 😭
14:07 ugh those kind of people. In my Natlan Day One stream, someone tried to argue against me wanting Natlan having more african inspiration, even though Natlan literally pulls from Aztec, Mayan, and Pacific Islander cultures as well, but when its Africa these people got a problem and yap about diversity (he literally did, and even stayed in stream making me uncomfortable). I didn’t use the word “diversity” because those kind of people get so triggered by it. I literally had to dance around the world, but my point to them was, if anything has dark skin its associated with “diversity and black people REEEEE” and these naysayers automatically hate it 🙄 any relevant discussion as to WHY people want diversity is shot down
I rambled in this comment but this video has many good points. It’s really sad how badly this world (or, western culture I guess?) hates black people 😔 and when original black characters do exist from indie projects, these projects usually don’t get too popular. Look at Kenzera ZAU, or that in-progress african MMO. I didn’t see anyone propping up Kenzera :( and even Aerial Knight’s Never Yield seems to be fading into obscurity.
21:37 OMG CONGRATS ON THAT! I’d love for my dragon works to get that kind of recognition someday, especially in Japan since anime/manga is my main inspiration. That’s so cool and such a tremendous goal! 👏
You got a lot things wrong, your points completely missed their marks, and you clearly don’t understand the actual issue or haven’t even grasped the situation. Btw if whitewashing is wrong so is blackwashing. I can see how you’re part of the problem because you can’t see the problem.
Yes but there have been tan and dark skinned asians represented in anime. People just like to claim those characters as just black.
People with albinism exist too. They are a small part of the population yet there is no albino art to represent people with albinism.
All of your comment lose sense when we remember that neither okarun nor Momo are even a little bit tan at all...
And people are mad cause of the hypocrisy of blackwashers, like yours.
Bro are u gonna breakdown dandadan art style
Maybe lol
i am a black person who makes manga and my freinds change my black drawings like in the end of the volume i put the art and story by jayden sibanda and it was my black freinds and he took a picture and and made everyone white
1:30 They kinda get this response when the author doesn't do for fun but for Identity politics reasons.
6:42 is it? is it all for innocent fun? all of them? come on let's be honest here, you know this is not the only reason people raceswap characters.
And i'm all for it,it's a drawing for god sake,it's fictional,you can make them be and do whatever you want,that's the beauty of it.
however the politics behind, the "one side is ok, cool and brave" but the other way around isn't, would you ever call it black washing? no right?you probably would not,and that's the problem people see it,the double standard.
i don't think just calling everyone that complaining about it racists but you "are't gonna say it" or is not all of them but majority of them is very productive, is like your mind is already made,you cannot see the other point of view so you villainize it.
14:04 same thing could be asked to all artists that change the race of a character to look like them "why do you want to make every character to look like you?" you see how it is a double standard? as you only criticize one side?
if these artist want to represent they identity, swapping the identity of character that already exists is clearly not working,is just making people more dived.(what you are doing works way better,you are selling new storys, even Japanese readers are liking it)
Manga and anime has nothing to do with being made in japan,it's a style and a way of telling a story that Osamo Tezuka pioneered ,so i would absolute call your works manga,and if it gets a animation i would 100% call it anime,because Osamo Tezuka works and the works inspired by it, inspired your style and way of story telling on your work.
My English is kinda bad,but i hope you understood what i'm trying to say,and my point of view,hope your works find even more success in the future,and i will definitely read them.
Yes this was said perfectly
@1:34 Umar reference? 😂
I think the biggest issue that asian artist have with making characters black is the double standars online westerners tend to impose on them, just remember the drama it caused when a dark skined character is paint with a few lighter hues in pastel collors, it happened with characters like Marina from Splatoon, asian artist were attacked by american twitter for using other tones, not even race swapping, it also makes the people that bully others for that but support darkening the skin of lightskined characters looks like hipocrites and double standar, something most people hate
There is no double standard. People need to have an equal footing in order for there to be real double standards. White skin already is over over-representated in the media. Whether it’s in animation or real world media. Japanese people don’t like drawing darker skin, because Asian society is already colorist. The Japanese people go out of their way to make white/European characters in western settings. And we know why. White people don’t even have to ask for it. But it’s always a problem when Black society asks for more black representation. And not only that, most of anime & manga is already racially ambiguous to where the characters lean more European looking than Japanese. So that’s an even bigger plus for Europeans. The “race swapping” are just fan edits for ppl who already have lack of representation, which is really no different than cosplaying. Which Black cosplayers are also harassed for. 🙄 But the white cosplayers don’t get any backlash. Also when there are original Black characters, you still complain and call it “woke” or DEI. So I’m tired of this excuse. The reason why there’s a problem with this is because many people have hatred for Black people.
@@VesperJester
There's a double standard, always has been for these "fixed your art" people.
@ Stop with the strawman argument. Because this incident wasn’t about “fixing art”, it was a fan edit for God sakes. Please get over it because this doesn’t really bother you for the reasons that you ppl are saying.
@@VesperJester
Strawman is literally what you're pulling by saying there's no double standards.
There is, not by the 16 year old that made the edit but by other people like the va that randomly associated with this.
@ No, you’re pulling an argument out your behind just to argue with the point that you made up. Nobody was fixing art. This was a fan edit. This is no different than when people cosplay. So get over yourself. You don’t really care about this. People like you like to project your whiteness into anime/manga and when a Black person encroaches on that, you snowflakes throw a hissy fit.
Racistas são nojentos.
Nada a ver com o vídeo, mas é muito louco ver vídeos do sensei em português.
Honestly who tf cares this much about drawing characters in diff races you gotta be extremely acoustic to really care that much ong
We all know though, that if black characters were drawn white same people would blow the fuck up. Me personally, I dont see any problem with swapping anyone for fun, its fan art after all. But the double standards just infuriating
I think alot of wht folks ligite thing Anime charecters are about them though.
I can't tel you how many wht folks think Goku is wht...
Or Naruto is wht...
So it's like wht people just kinda get to see the series as presented and just say "ohh well it's already about me"
But blk people can't do that bec obviously our skin is darker so we definitely know the characters don't represent us...
@@KrazyStargazer Then go to Nigeria, they have banned white people from everything in the media, even commercials. There you won't have to worry about small amount ofblack characters representing you in TV.
For years Japanese people were fine with race swapping art, but after getting attacked many times for not even race swapping, but just slightly lighter skin tone, they are just done with the double standards.
"Slightly lighter skin tone" and it's them giving black characters tans, and the tans are multiple shades lighter than their actual complexion.
Yeah, i remember seeing a fanart of a splatoon character being slightly lighter and people responde with death threats
@@DillonMaynard yeah but it's still not race swapping, It's an unhealthy obsession with race and skin color, I myself have had many different skin tones in my life, doesn't mean I race swapped myself.
I think it’s because the art was traced and being sold for money.
Same with that fan made berserk anime. Making money off of something that has copyright.
@@DillonMaynard -then them blaming it on lighting- when they know how to use filters. Like they will take a mocha brown colored character and lighten them to chocolate milk! Like they have no sense of color theory or color picking! (But everything else is colored right!)
Colorism , among other things, is rampant in asia mn counties like Japan. Their skin get super dark too but it's often seen as a bad thing.
The main issue is just the hypocrisy. Most people don't care if you make Goku black, but god forbid you make a dark skin characters skin 1% lighter. Both sides have a sensitivity issue that they need to learn to deal with. Diversity is good, stop limiting art.
I always appreciate people taking a shot at depicting blk charecters.
But if you've never drawn a person of a different race it can be tricky.
Like take Popo. Do I think Toriyama is racist? No.
Is the depiction...unfortunate? Yes.
But I have hope. I think eventually people will learn and adapt. Toriyama himself even got better at depicting blk charecters.
@KrazyStargazer pretty sure popo is based off genies and demons so I don't think the black comparison is legitimate. Toriyama does have other issues with black character designs though.
@@Harvestinberrysyeah. if im correct popo is closer to South Asian diety/folklore (i cant remember which religion specifically ). but as you said, its the unfortunate pre 2000s depiction (by many mangakas) of blk characters where we are drawn with big red lips and charcoal skin.
@cherie..cherry Pans school teacher in the the Super Hero movie showed he definitely improved in that regard.
@Harvestinberrys ohh sure Popos a "genie" uhhh huuhh. But other black charecters like...and I'm not messing with you General Black ant exactly PC either...
But the 80s or whenever OG DB came out was a different time so it's water under the bridge. But I'm still gonna call a spade a spade and say that ain't cashmoney~
Can you draw Sano in Yu-Gi-Oh style?
To me it's a Japanese clap back for their artist being attacked for making a paler Marina (splatoon) their loud Twitter community is at arms for their culture being attacked by western culture warriors.
She didn’t even look pale just light brown. It wasn’t a big deal.
The Marina clap back started by another Japanese artist which is the crazy part. On Whyt's case they deadass white washed his characters for no reason at all. It's not about making your own characters they don't care
@@guesta9822that's the thing. It shouldn't have been a big deal but western twitter users tend to be very vocal about POC characters. I won't blame the japanese for returning the same energy
It was incredible to see the same people who call raceswaps racist also claim that most anime characters are based on white people.
It's true, most JP are white, they're based on white people.
@giornogiostar3214 "It came to me in a dream"
@@DillonMaynard
You don't have to describe your original statement.
@@giornogiostar3214 That doesn't make any sense. You replied with the same claim I'm talking about.💀
@@DillonMaynard
That's the joke.
Just MY OPINION, I not a fan of race swapping u can do it if u want i just dont follow it, no hate to the artist who did dandadan, as a aspiring artist myself I just think the time and engery u put into that u could come up with something new and fresh, I follow so many old and new artist who create cool new original black characters, I have alot of new characters inspired by my caribbean culture that I want to do, drawing naruto if he was from trinidad is just not exciting or cool to me and I don't "see myself in it" again just my opinion. They can draw that it they want.
I’m not an artist but I am an amateur writer trying to finish a fantasy universe inspired by Africa. If someone wanted to draw my characters white or Asian (some already exist in the story) I honestly wouldn’t care. The canon I created doesn’t change because of that. it’s their imagination and art they can do what they like. The problem I’d have is if they said “fixed” I’d be like wtf you mean fixed? 😂
I’ve seen Black Panther shown as white and blonde I didn’t bat an eye it. So why some people are offended is beyond me tbh.
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Not to mention all the style and fashion in dandadan is inspired by black folk/urban trends.
You never had set a foot in Japan or is that you are a black supremacist that belives other cultures stole everything from black people and nothing is original of other cultures?
Is a story that heavelly relies on yokais and japansse urban myths, how the f is that black culture?
@@geardestroyI could be wrong but I don't think they are referring to the yokai and myths though. I don't know enough about fashion to verify or rebuttal their claim but I believe they are just referring to fashion related to their non school clothes.
@@geardestroy
Everything is black culture for these new age imperialists.
@@foohyfooh
Don't try to excuse it, DanDaDan character fashion and clothes is the most general clothes there could be.
I don't care, do whatever... About black people wanting more black characters, do your own manga/anime bro/sis.
We already doing this I don’t get what the problem is.
There was a 2099 genderbent picture that was on twitter and people were pissed someones gonna have a problem with it regardless this sucks but i dont get white washing or black wahsing orginal characters its best to make ur own jam or insert ur characters in that world couse it just comes off to me as black dude a bit mean like u cant relate to a character that isnt black come on
Im pretty sure doing "what if" art is fine doing "fixed your art" isn't No one had a problem when bowser got gender swap or brazilian hatsune miku which I find this whole thing kinda crazy I'm guessing this happened bc of the harrassment some Japanese artist received from western Twitter I remember few Japanese artist deleted their accounts bc they lightened the skin a little or not being dark enough of course there are some bad apples
Inferior minds always get triggered, especially those who are also outsiders of the culture but yet they are co-owners because of their representation never being an issue. Same stuff different day. Again like you said in the title "A few" who are insignificant in the grand scheme of things. I wouldn't focus on them or waste valuable time, energy, or thought into responding or acknowledging them. Although whether they know it or not the more they comment and give you attention they are contributing to your dream. While they go through life wishing they were in your position.
You really need to get informed about Yasuke. It's embarrassing. He was made up by a white guy in japan. Who referenced his own articles to solidify his stance.
White panter tchalla is dope, but the Twitter will lost their mind
white Sam Wilson as a FALCON....
Its not about black or white washing
That artwork straight up looks bad and ugly even in afro standarts
Okay racist.
We all know it’s not about the quality of the fanart let’s not be obtuse 😂
If you have a wojak pfp, your take on art is automatically null and void.
Its not ugly though lol
That makes zero sense the art looked just fine and you spelled standards wrong what even is afro standards o.O
The problem is double standards on which ones have been doing such horrible things then defending it and then getting upset they get backlash cause no one else can do that. Also just because in America you find it fine does not mean it's okay to do that in other places. In Japan it's deemed disrespectful to do that to mangakas works of art. Saying their work as it is was not good enough for you and our media is not good enough for you. Doing race swapping and then being rude just reinforces that and makes things worse because you are reinforcing that you deem Japanese people and media as lesser than you. If you want to be represented in media, make your own and help bring other people up. That is what I'm doing right now with the story I'm doing that has been a long haul cause I'm reading books on many places mythologies and stories by people who actually live there. Bring up smaller media and help them to get a spotlight, but also call out the racist and malicious people. Also the yasuke situation and assassin's Creed shadows is very different. Also actually anime is not just any animation. Children will call spongebob anime. It has to be in the style and avatar is not one. But there are others that actually would. But avatar is also in the style of american cartoons. Also i do like the story you are working on along with others. Do keep it up! Wish i could get Clock stricker signed. Also clock striker is considered manga cause its in the style of manga and respectful to us.
Yes you should draw your own characters. Yuji should never be 6lack. There's quite literally no reason, if you want one to exist in that world........ then use your brain and THINK of one. Not washing your favorite character because it aligns with your delusions. Notice they never made 6lack panther whyte? They created the character "The Whyte Wolf"......... Is that too hard for many of you?
But every time we make our own characters. People still freak tf out
we have saying in our country regarding this SJW stuff, "everything will be black in time.."
and who suffer the most? the black people.
who gave a pat on their own shoulder? the SJW.
It's a reverse racism...redrawing white character as black....same racist as redrwaing black character white. SO WhytManga and SaturdayAM supports reverse racism to make a profit
thats a reach at best.
They are Japanese characters. They ain't white.