I'm sorry but I have to say, he had the luckiest spawns in the jungle made his early farm towards the morbid mask way easier and not a single centaur camp until min 11. this is one of the biggest things that made him get good farm in the jungle so i beg all of u not to consider this strat a viable one cuz its not...
Jack Azadian that's what they always say on every new strat. if you have played dota long enough, which i would guess you have you should know that anything is possible on dota. from jungling sven, to a terrorblade that buys a refresher
Andrew Timothy its true but you can't deny that these sort of strats and builds and tremendously situational or dependent of other things such as hoping that the other team doesn't pick a certain counter or great runes or ez laning stage or in this case, good jungle spawns
Jack Azadian and so is any other strat, armor shred, dagon team, global presence, necronomicon, travel boots team. whatever u can name, it's all situational. if there was one strat that always works regardless of anything else then everyone would be rushing to use it. so ur point doesn't actually mean anything :P
Kusalin Thanyakullsajja the point he is making that if one or more cetaurs had spawned between 00:30 and 4:00 instead of satyrs then lots of his items would have been delayed, therefore its not as reliable as going to the lane or picking a good jungler. Also, all those example you said can be counterd by picking the right item. Jungle spawns can not be counterd by buying the right item, spawn is either good or bad.
Doggey Honestly, what the fuck. If i was QOP I would practically be living in their jungle! I CANT believe this guy is number one mmr in the world. Dire didn't even have that many wards there early game... He does manage to get really good jungle farm given the timer, I'll give him that.
из этого видео ясно, только то, что профессиональный игрок в доту, не знает спавн боксы, и пол игры пробегал с лоу хп против бса, я думаю земеля в харде сказал ему спасибо
What I learned from this vid: Miracle, an 8k player, didn't buy a TP for the first ~30 mins of the match. Therefore, I will never buy a TP. Ty Miracle I shall never waste my money again!!!
***** I concede this point. However.... now.... I shall not buy a TP for the first 15 mins of gameplay. That extra min and thirty is there to out meta some people.
truth is most melee heroes can jungle if you really really need/want to and you know the little tricks with a little bit of creative use of the hatchet. just remember its a teamgame and help mid/short lane.
I get the 'lucky spawns' in the jungle being in his favor, but it's undeniable that he is a great player. Not many people reach 8k+ MMR. Also, if you watch other videos, he makes some amazing plays with other heroes. My respects to this fine Dota 2 player.
From this game I learnt one thing - sven is not a good jungler at all. If he haven't been so lucky (talking about spawns) he would farm much slower. And don't forget he also got kill on the easy lane and at 6:17
Imperius it's bloodseeker welcome, icefrog's successor! here's your alcohol, your weed and your balancing dice. remember: the more stupid and pro-game money-milkable, the better goddamnit now srsly, what the fuck icefrog
There were multiple opportunities where he could've stacked and expedited the process overall. I enjoyed it though, it was pretty standard jungling with any melee hero (i.e. bloodseeker)
Completely disregarding his jungle start, his general play in the post-laning phase was so sick. Really makes me appreciate why guys like this are 8k and I'm only 4.5.
What Sven did was really smart, but as was said before in the comments. His spawns were amazing to get such low damage creeps and that the people he was playing against were just the epitome of idiots, (most likely peruvians) Like the MoM Jugg, this should in no way be done in actual matches and is a situational strat. But just like MoM Juggs, it's going to be the strat and everybody is going to be pissed at their sven/jugg being useless until minute 40
I'm a dota 2 noob but I tried this sven jungling thing from minute 1 and it doesn't work. My sven loses way more health than this sven. How is he doing it? Is it an old update of dota 2 or something.
IMO rather have Quelling and Stout Shield, maybe Iron Talon is much better for jungling Sven. Not only with Iron Talon, you can kill faster using its chop rather hitting (Sven has very low aspeed at lv 1). As most you would say, it will help a lot if first creep spawn is Centaur, Ogre or Wolf. Stout shield not helping much when the creep is Centaur or Wolf Additional plus is +2 armor which boost Sven's already high starter armor at lvl 1
This could be optimised more (using mana instead of jungling with it full all the time) so pulling it off, even though his jungle camps were ideal, could be viable in special circumstances and I feel he could have used his abilities better in the early fights. Also maybe a support could stack the furthermost hard camp a few times to be farmed later to reduce the blink dagger timing. It is interesting though... well done on thinking out the box and being successful.
Dude stop talking. The point of this video is that he thrashed the enemy team hard even when they had gayseeker. Any other bigoted comments should be reserved to your butt. Miracle tried this unique strat and won with it, yes he got easy camps(lucky) but the way he skilled his skills and stats for jungling shows that he has alot of idea what he is doing.
Okay so hes one point jungling. I've practiced this with lifestealer and even bloodseeker like a year ago when jungling was almost impossible to do efficiently on him. I suppose while sven cant sustain in jungle as well as other heros, he does clear it more efficiently then a hero like lifestealer due to cleave. That being said he had a pretty serious issue, he was completely out of regen, and at that point without getting the KB on wyvern his efficiency goes out the window because he has to buy more regen just to get the mask like one to two minutes later, and even with the mask you see it just gives him enough sustain. The problem is hes sitting at half life bootless for 5+min, yes I saw the wyvern rotation, but wyvern cant do anything unless he hits a splinter, if thats almost any other hero with decent dps or if wyvern/jakiro were both there sven had a good chance of going down. Im not saying this isnt good, im just saying that theres alot of situations where jungling sven could not work out well for miracle, but because its a pub and because the pubs in question give him a KB and the wyvern who solo roams on him when hes far enough away from the creep doesnt get splinter blast off, hes able to have a good lane phase. after that its just sven, I offlane sven and as long as you get blink before 15-16min you can really make alot happen with leveld storm hammer/warcry. Which is another thing I dislike about this strat, getting two points cleave hurts his aggressiveness early, its the same logic as legion jungle, sure legion can make stuff happen, sure she can farm decently, but your leveling up your passive, and the reason legion jungle is worse than laning her, is cause when you lane her you can level her Q and W so when you start ganking your much more scary. I know this post might seem... idn long winded and perhaps like im criticizing miracle, who's obviously a great player so it really doesnt matter what he does, he can make it work. I'm just saying that alot of people might see this and think to do it in their pubs and find out that bounty hunter really ends your game for you. I've played like 40-50 private games on almost every jungler/potential jungle hero trying to maximize their farm and potential rotation power etc. And I think junglers that sit at 40% life for like 5+min are the ones you should avoid because rotations can easily turn miracles dagger from a 14min to a 17-20min. Keep in mind he had the best case scenario you could hope for, an early killing blow for an early morbid mask right when he was out of regen, and the only rotation he got was a wyvern that died within moments of failing to even really deal and dps to him/slow his jungle down. With literally the best case scenario he still only has a 14min blink, compare that to any other jungler, enigma, axe, chen, ench. You substitute those heros for sven in this scenario, and you can have a 7-8min blink on axe, a 9-10min mek on enigma/chen, etc. This is mostly because you pretty much need treads and the morbid mask. other junglers dont, and so this is cool and very possible in a pub, its about as viable as jungling legion.
Orna'Fulsamee Or maxing his stun instead of attributes for clearing the camp, so you got a ult up for a fight. I think you don't need this 4 points in your stats when you "jungle" like this. Btw: you need to stack more camps. Stack the hardcamp as most as you can. When its like quad-stacked you can use your ulti if you can't clear it solo with Storm Hammer. Stacking in the jungle is the best thing you can do for your farming progress, in addition to your cleave its the best thing you can do.
Mr miracle. I follow most of your videos and like watching you play different classes. That being said I would like to state that your games are either fake or you are playing against very bad players. As you may have noticed a lot of the comments here say "try playing 2k mmr games" I dont know how this game is rating you at 8k mmr or how it ranks the other team as high mmr but fact of the matter is you play most of your time against low skilled people who never seem to attack you in team fights, never gank you and do all possible mistakes to let you slip away unharmed.
Не миракл это, он когда фармил лёгкий стак, там были ведьмы, любой человек кто хоть не много понимает в доте убивал бы крипа который медлит атаку, а на про сцене тем более!!!
+Axmunir Kawazuka (Mune) Would literally die in 2s to Qop ult (which goes off just after), before he could even attempt to get it down. 1v1 not a good trade.
I'm sorry but I have to say, he had the luckiest spawns in the jungle made his early farm towards the morbid mask way easier and not a single centaur camp until min 11. this is one of the biggest things that made him get good farm in the jungle so i beg all of u not to consider this strat a viable one cuz its not...
Jack Azadian that's what they always say on every new strat. if you have played dota long enough, which i would guess you have you should know that anything is possible on dota.
from jungling sven, to a terrorblade that buys a refresher
Andrew Timothy its true but you can't deny that these sort of strats and builds and tremendously situational or dependent of other things such as hoping that the other team doesn't pick a certain counter or great runes or ez laning stage or in this case, good jungle spawns
Jack Azadian and so is any other strat, armor shred, dagon team, global presence, necronomicon, travel boots team. whatever u can name, it's all situational. if there was one strat that always works regardless of anything else then everyone would be rushing to use it. so ur point doesn't actually mean anything :P
Jack Azadian also, if ur gonna argue anything, why not argue that he got a kill top lane? cus that's an even more unstable factor
Kusalin Thanyakullsajja the point he is making that if one or more cetaurs had spawned between 00:30 and 4:00 instead of satyrs then lots of his items would have been delayed, therefore its not as reliable as going to the lane or picking a good jungler. Also, all those example you said can be counterd by picking the right item. Jungle spawns can not be counterd by buying the right item, spawn is either good or bad.
ROFL , PHOENIX WINTER AND THEIR SON JAKIRO IN ONE TEAM
hOlyThuN I guess anything passes for a dragon these days...
hOlyThuN I didn't know phoenix was a dragon, I thought it was a... phoenix.
JamesAnderyourstruly BIG FLYING THING, HAS FIRE SOMETIMES MAYBE
winter wyvern is not a dragon, is a wyvern
sonnyray lol
Somehow RUclips's algorithm recommend me this vid again after 6 years. Really RUclips? After all this time?
I love how he gets to kill satyrs and satyrs only in the jungle. Watch this video, try this in pubs, get punched by Hellbear Smashers and Centaurs.
+İhsan Çağatay Boz the worst is stacking camps as sf and those golems getting stacked :D
wrg
+İhsan Çağatay Boz It's really not about that. His jungling wasn't even that efficient. It's his movement and teamfighting. Guy is a genius.
+Rodjen Los said 2k mmr
change the title to uninterrupted jungle sven
ZeHomieKnight WW ganked once
Doggey Honestly, what the fuck. If i was QOP I would practically be living in their jungle! I CANT believe this guy is number one mmr in the world. Dire didn't even have that many wards there early game... He does manage to get really good jungle farm given the timer, I'll give him that.
Doggey it is interrupted, but QOP doesn't want to help so WW throw his life away for nothing
+ROFLMAOPRODUCTIONS9 then your a shit qop
из этого видео ясно, только то, что профессиональный игрок в доту, не знает спавн боксы, и пол игры пробегал с лоу хп против бса, я думаю земеля в харде сказал ему спасибо
"starts singing "sven, sven, sevn of the jungle, strong as he can be! AhHAhahAHaHahh Watch out of that beast!!"
whoever trained this guy i salute him
What I learned from this vid:
Miracle, an 8k player, didn't buy a TP for the first ~30 mins of the match.
Therefore, I will never buy a TP. Ty Miracle I shall never waste my money again!!!
+deeman010gdj he bought one 16:30
+MilchshakeLet'sPlay * 18:00
***** I concede this point.
However.... now.... I shall not buy a TP for the first 15 mins of gameplay. That extra min and thirty is there to out meta some people.
In every Pro Dota Player is a memer waiting to burst out.
truth is most melee heroes can jungle if you really really need/want to and you know the little tricks with a little bit of creative use of the hatchet. just remember its a teamgame and help mid/short lane.
Is the backround music at 10min onward a dota 2 music pack or added later? Also what is the name of the track?
I get the 'lucky spawns' in the jungle being in his favor, but it's undeniable that he is a great player. Not many people reach 8k+ MMR.
Also, if you watch other videos, he makes some amazing plays with other heroes.
My respects to this fine Dota 2 player.
Miracle seems like a master that can check the condition of a teamfight easily just by observing cd, items and stats. Like the MC in Log Horizon
He did nothing and won because of his teammates.. classic
From this game I learnt one thing - sven is not a good jungler at all. If he haven't been so lucky (talking about spawns) he would farm much slower. And don't forget he also got kill on the easy lane and at 6:17
fun game because it wasn't as easy as usual for Miracle; he died a few times early and BS was ahead in net worth pretty much the whole time
Что за музыка играет на втором плане ?это в игре или в ролике ?
24:15 gotta love 0 damage Sven build,that was embarassing
***** and that bs was also fed
Imperius it's bloodseeker
welcome, icefrog's successor! here's your alcohol, your weed and your balancing dice.
remember: the more stupid and pro-game money-milkable, the better
goddamnit
now srsly, what the fuck icefrog
Imperius If he didn't move to follow blood seeker he'd have stayed alive.
***** isnt valve keeping dota 2 with the exact same changes etc that are applied on dota by icefrog?
The Guru well if thats true thats a mistake dota 1 and dota 2 have different mechanics
There were multiple opportunities where he could've stacked and expedited the process overall. I enjoyed it though, it was pretty standard jungling with any melee hero (i.e. bloodseeker)
i love that first music... what is that song??
can someone tell me..
Completely disregarding his jungle start, his general play in the post-laning phase was so sick. Really makes me appreciate why guys like this are 8k and I'm only 4.5.
What music pack is this? Is this the normal one? Thank you in advance for answering.
heroes with in music pack
You can buy it in the game.
мусор 1к?
Bad sven so lucky you have phantom lancer.. what you make that item?
He bought MoM from the enemy's fountain. I did not know you could do that.
What Sven did was really smart, but as was said before in the comments. His spawns were amazing to get such low damage creeps and that the people he was playing against were just the epitome of idiots, (most likely peruvians)
Like the MoM Jugg, this should in no way be done in actual matches and is a situational strat. But just like MoM Juggs, it's going to be the strat and everybody is going to be pissed at their sven/jugg being useless until minute 40
AsterDXZ MoM jugg is the most flexible build. what else could a Jugg do with 1k8 gold early game?
Ngo Hiep buy a maelstrom
I'm a dota 2 noob but I tried this sven jungling thing from minute 1 and it doesn't work. My sven loses way more health than this sven. How is he doing it? Is it an old update of dota 2 or something.
first item ,dominator and stack ench. 22 min,you have dagger,echo sabre,bkb. push and finish.
IMO rather have Quelling and Stout Shield, maybe Iron Talon is much better for jungling Sven.
Not only with Iron Talon, you can kill faster using its chop rather hitting (Sven has very low aspeed at lv 1). As most you would say, it will help a lot if first creep spawn is Centaur, Ogre or Wolf. Stout shield not helping much when the creep is Centaur or Wolf
Additional plus is +2 armor which boost Sven's already high starter armor at lvl 1
he got lucky he got only Satyrs
This could be optimised more (using mana instead of jungling with it full all the time) so pulling it off, even though his jungle camps were ideal, could be viable in special circumstances and I feel he could have used his abilities better in the early fights. Also maybe a support could stack the furthermost hard camp a few times to be farmed later to reduce the blink dagger timing. It is interesting though... well done on thinking out the box and being successful.
this honestly so bad, jungling with a bs in the enemy team? bs has so much speed and dmg he destroyed es at bot
Thats why he's only farming the easy and medium camps duh
he still got low to like half and dat still gives bs speed and dmg
Because I'm Batman lol he was just lucky on satyr and golem camps
Dude stop talking. The point of this video is that he thrashed the enemy team hard even when they had gayseeker. Any other bigoted comments should be reserved to your butt. Miracle tried this unique strat and won with it, yes he got easy camps(lucky) but the way he skilled his skills and stats for jungling shows that he has alot of idea what he is doing.
ryan tham dont worry he will buy lothar ... lol
if i was that sven, i'd have 3x centaur spawns
is the music used ingame or added?
In game..u can purchase it "The Heroes Within" epic right
Yes! its pretty cool. Thanks
i like this music pack..where i can download ?
До Лд-1 ему далеко слабо фармит лес + к тому что у него 2 кила
I guess if u r not getting ez spawns u can go for armor and spawn it. It costs like 25 mana:3
Can u plz tell about that starting music...?
yea folks dont try this in solo q if you dont want to get mega raged upon. especailly at anything lower than 5k.
that description thou!
Вместо бс и квопы надо было взять дк и вайпера,и тогда была тима драконов.
+Емельянов даниил Вайпера еще как то можно назвать драконом, но вот феню......
+денис миронов Дакое с перьями ХД
вместо феникса пака
Okay so hes one point jungling. I've practiced this with lifestealer and even bloodseeker like a year ago when jungling was almost impossible to do efficiently on him. I suppose while sven cant sustain in jungle as well as other heros, he does clear it more efficiently then a hero like lifestealer due to cleave. That being said he had a pretty serious issue, he was completely out of regen, and at that point without getting the KB on wyvern his efficiency goes out the window because he has to buy more regen just to get the mask like one to two minutes later, and even with the mask you see it just gives him enough sustain. The problem is hes sitting at half life bootless for 5+min, yes I saw the wyvern rotation, but wyvern cant do anything unless he hits a splinter, if thats almost any other hero with decent dps or if wyvern/jakiro were both there sven had a good chance of going down. Im not saying this isnt good, im just saying that theres alot of situations where jungling sven could not work out well for miracle, but because its a pub and because the pubs in question give him a KB and the wyvern who solo roams on him when hes far enough away from the creep doesnt get splinter blast off, hes able to have a good lane phase. after that its just sven, I offlane sven and as long as you get blink before 15-16min you can really make alot happen with leveld storm hammer/warcry. Which is another thing I dislike about this strat, getting two points cleave hurts his aggressiveness early, its the same logic as legion jungle, sure legion can make stuff happen, sure she can farm decently, but your leveling up your passive, and the reason legion jungle is worse than laning her, is cause when you lane her you can level her Q and W so when you start ganking your much more scary. I know this post might seem... idn long winded and perhaps like im criticizing miracle, who's obviously a great player so it really doesnt matter what he does, he can make it work. I'm just saying that alot of people might see this and think to do it in their pubs and find out that bounty hunter really ends your game for you. I've played like 40-50 private games on almost every jungler/potential jungle hero trying to maximize their farm and potential rotation power etc. And I think junglers that sit at 40% life for like 5+min are the ones you should avoid because rotations can easily turn miracles dagger from a 14min to a 17-20min. Keep in mind he had the best case scenario you could hope for, an early killing blow for an early morbid mask right when he was out of regen, and the only rotation he got was a wyvern that died within moments of failing to even really deal and dps to him/slow his jungle down. With literally the best case scenario he still only has a 14min blink, compare that to any other jungler, enigma, axe, chen, ench. You substitute those heros for sven in this scenario, and you can have a 7-8min blink on axe, a 9-10min mek on enigma/chen, etc. This is mostly because you pretty much need treads and the morbid mask. other junglers dont, and so this is cool and very possible in a pub, its about as viable as jungling legion.
U just made new copy pasta
SG5Leroy This is worse than jungling Legion easily... Perfect spawns, a kill and little contest and he's just about able to jungle lol
Stanbobbler Nothing is worse than jungle Legion.
He was very lucky with the camps imo usually its not so easy cause you're getting cents and catmans!
Enemy team=Midas in 5th minute
My team= Midas in 15th minute
Final Jungle farm is at 13:17. After that he's in Team fights.
wich commentator he has?
Was he that bad 1 year back?
music pack name of this video pls?
Why don't he stack high camp then clear it with his ultimate later on ?
Orna'Fulsamee Or maxing his stun instead of attributes for clearing the camp, so you got a ult up for a fight. I think you don't need this 4 points in your stats when you "jungle" like this.
Btw: you need to stack more camps. Stack the hardcamp as most as you can. When its like quad-stacked you can use your ulti if you can't clear it solo with Storm Hammer. Stacking in the jungle is the best thing you can do for your farming progress, in addition to your cleave its the best thing you can do.
Bloodcyka ''ILLUMINATE confirmed''! 12:12 look his MS ''666'' !
miracle just takes pub games too seriously, unlike rtz and singsing
That Phoenix build though... how can you be that bad?
So this is what Dota 2 looks like without fucking lag.
he also got pretty lucky thier offlane was gankable and he managed the last hit for early morbid
Как называется музыка в начале?
it's starting music is like from the movie Requiem For A Dream
song at the beginning pls...
can anyone tell me the name of the music need to download it
nice sven!!!! ty for BILD!!! :)
He could stack the hard camp and clean it with his ult at lvl 6. Anyway good match.
Pasquale Belvedere you should become his teacher
^ ^ yup, he wasn't very efficient..
Does this guy ever lose, and if so, does he rage?
with those clicking , he isnt miracle
what is the background song name?? :D
+Sam Marru Dota 2 : Heroes Within Music Pack by Daniel Sadowski
he could stack one camp would be huge boost! plus if he goes midas
Ty! Now I can farm well.. And I will try go to 6000 MMR with this farm
Miracle- not playing slark ? is this real life ?
Mr miracle. I follow most of your videos and like watching you play different classes. That being said I would like to state that your games are either fake or you are playing against very bad players. As you may have noticed a lot of the comments here say "try playing 2k mmr games"
I dont know how this game is rating you at 8k mmr or how it ranks the other team as high mmr but fact of the matter is you play most of your time against low skilled people who never seem to attack you in team fights, never gank you and do all possible mistakes to let you slip away unharmed.
Soundtrack name ?!
if this is Miracle, then I am Dendi... :-)
mom phoenix best tilt eva xD
Winter and phoenix's son is jakiro
this sven didn't like to use his first skill
Sauce of Music at 2:00 somebody? Reminds me of Crash Bandicoot/Ratchet and Clank sciencey based levels.
MontyBLARG heroes within music pack
Не миракл это, он когда фармил лёгкий стак, там были ведьмы, любой человек кто хоть не много понимает в доте убивал бы крипа который медлит атаку, а на про сцене тем более!!!
WTF is he doing? NO GUTS! I BET MIRACLE'S MMR 2K :D
wow so lucky spawning there is even no centaur or hellbears.... i wish when i do dis it will also be like this
It really bothers me that he doesn't spend his money before dying.
Please tell music
Battle of the wings. :)
no tp till min 30 against bs makes me cry lmao
Sven bought a tp to top lane at 18.00 during 16 min according to the game
Почему, когда я фармлю лес, ко мне постоянно приходят всякие утырки?
putting uphill ward, skymage uses 1st on qop from lower ground, giving up the early ward to enemy. not interested to watch the rest
Lol this is my build ...damm it. Meracle credits?
eck PR this isnt meracle , is miracle- he is a jordanian 7k mmr , not a pro
when miracle die at 13:49 the speed of bloodseeker was 666 lol
fucking passive ss at first...
when bloodseeker was good
Madaling Gayahin Ung Pangalan
Pero Ung Galaw Hindi STFU Sir :)
Что за музыка
i think in 23min in the game he forgot to stun BS, he could get solo kill easy
At min 31... He can kill pheonix when pheonix ulti...but he run for what?
+Axmunir Kawazuka (Mune)
Would literally die in 2s to Qop ult (which goes off just after), before he could even attempt to get it down. 1v1 not a good trade.
Terraria music? :D
***** Heroes Within Music Pack
How is he not being ganked 6:57? Bloodseeker would have clearly seen him jungling even before that. A smoke would have got him.
shogrran His HP is never low enough for thirst to activate on him.
shogrran sven don't have a Thirst debuff (25%)
+ArRhean it is a debuff.
+shogrran bs 3rd skill level 1
radiant noobs they did not gank him. Just luck
Как он увидел какие скилы прокачены у врагов? 10.38
Рамис Рахимов риплей же.
Спасибо, а так сразу что то я и не сообразил)
thats not miracle guys he is some imposer i think
So lucky, those weak creeps
fucking lucky on dat neutral camps... One bear or bird and all his jungle ends
микита ваганов Neither bear, nor Bird camps spawn at medium camp, worst thing he could've gotten was centaur camp, which still isn't all that horrible
i think its not miracle guys..
!!!! 31:10 EPIC !!!!
Свеном играть не умеет, ничего интересного 3к ммр.
дизлайк
Pro player carries no tp. So nice... My mind cannot brain this.