I live to see kill team content, especially with your guys' amazing editing, but i cant help but feel like everyone, both the players and viewers, are missing out on how great the game system is without secondary objectives. its what makes missions like this balanced
@@CasperTheRamKnight not right. As an ex marine, I'd definitely rather defend a position than attack one. The more you can control your battlefield, the better off you are. Obviously this isn't real life, but if they had equal forces, Orks would have steamrolled her.
@@stonehorn4641 i was agreeing w the commenter, like that it sounded about right what he said, that in fact was looking it was harder to defend than attacking
As much as I enjoyed the friendly banter, I can't say I enjoyed this mission as it was played at all. It was ridiculously one-sided without Tac Ops to make up points for the defender.
Nah he misplayed n she out played him he chose to defend if the mission was different she would of adapted. His game was good but not good enough to get a good screen for the objective. Solid fun thematic mission
Great Viewing as usual James you missed that the Comms boys does 2 mortal wounds per crit when he rolls a crit. He would have nailed the Genestealer in turn two.
Feeling two-sided. I love every Playon episode yet I also beg for this Playon Octarius season to end. The number of rules being ignored is considerable and really makes me as a player uncomfortable yet all players are so charming and entertaining. Guess I could only hope for things to be better in the next KT season. p.s. GW released some Killteam FAQ on November 4th yet did not mention it in any article in Warhammer Community. I would like to suggest u guys take a look and apply them in the next season
We understand. We shot all of these together and tried to go as simple as we could. Weve been taking tons of notes to apply to the next season, including the faqs and balance sheets that have come out since we shot it.
@@PlayOnTabletop This KT series has been hugely entertaining, and as a newbie to the hobby it's made me want to get into KT! I'm excited to see how this series improves as everybody gets better acquainted with the games!
@@PlayOnTabletop It's great to start a series where we can watch you grow from scratch instead of coming in when you've already been playing for years, it's a nice breath of fresh air
Love the Kill Team content and would love to see more! Also love having James on the channel! But man this battle seemed very one sided from the start. Let's have the Orks start short handed and put the Melee-focused Tyranids group within early striking distance!
Hey! Love the content, but I have one rules tip: at the end of the game, Rebecca made a free move action. But this means you can still not double move, which won her the game in this scenario
I'm pretty new to KT (3 games played), and just played this mission today. My Legionaries (attacker) got spanked by an Intercessor team (defender). Cool to see this pop up in my feed today!
Intercession Squad is pretty brutal. The sergeant can take a bolt rifle, a Vengeance-Class Scope and the Reclusium-Blessed bolts, and sling 4, 2+, P1, Lethal 5+, 4/5 damage shots twice per activation, plus Overwatch on 2+ with Methodical. Truly frightening.
@@th0rg0d I like to prioritize my gaming as such: 1. Have fun 2. Play the game properly 3. Play the game well 4. Win So long as I'm satisfying those directives in that order, I can't lose.
These are a great start into showing how great killteam is! But definitely will need work in the future seasons to come, if you guys ever need help form the killteam community PLEASE reach out!
I gotta say I was super excited to see kill team on the channel and I do love the players they're definitely entertaining themselves, but the rule inconsistencies has been a real big let down and been kind of uncomfortable to watch. I really can't wait for this season to end and hopefully see not only a more seasoned group take a crack at the game having made these mistakes and learned from them, but also have some of the crazy kill teams like warp Coven and Gellerpox and so on played
We understand. Thanks for your feedback. We filmed these all together, so some of the errors are of course systematic. We are trying to awknowdlge them and learn for the next season.
@@PlayOnTabletop I definitely look forward to the next season and hope ya'll don't get to discouraged by what I'm sure is plenty of feedback on the game. Still love the channel and will be watching!
Question: 8:25 shooting a concealed Gensteler thats in cover, when are you alloved to do that? Is it because they are both close to the cover? Noob question. Hidden Horror: While this operative has a Conceal order, it is always treated as having a Conceal order, regardless of any other rules (e.g. Vantage Point).
Ngl didn’t like the mission at all. Expecially with genestealers on attack there was no way he was winning that when she can scuicide bomb onto point. But enjoy kt content so keep it up!
that mission felt really much in the attackers ball? Like firstly the defenders started with less models which against really killy killteams would have been great but here just really was pure downsides so idk how to feel on that and then on top of that their wasn't any real counterplay the defender could do against the action past kill good which is hard enough in even matches but they were starting with less to begin with so was really difficult
I have a question tho, at 8:29 the Ork boy shoots at the stealer but the stealer is in cover right and is concealed right? So how does the ork get to shoot at the stealer? Also after that Rebecca only retained one defense dice as a save instead of 2, but I thought her Lurk ploy gives her additional dice to defend if concealed or in cover.
If I remember correctly, ork boy being within 1 white circle of cover can actually shoot the genestealer. It would need to be more than 1 white circle(could be wrong here) away from cover to be obscured + conceal would make it invalid target without vantage point. I might be wrong though
So I'm pretty new to Kill Team myself, but couldn't she have cancelled out the crit with one of her own crits at 10:23? That's how it works in the rules, right? 0_o
So the attacker chooses whether or not they will attack the person or parry one of their dice. If the die hasn't already been parried then it will hit. Does that make sense?
@@thejomah It does, but that's my point exactly: She could have used a crit to parry one of his crits and the model would not have died! They do this multiple times actually, but it's not how I understand the rules as written
Really one sided mission for a one sided match up. The genestealers really had a ton of advantages as a melee and charging focused unit against a smaller starting team.
probably in the minority but seeing one half of these games always been genestealers, which are by far the most boring kt team. It's getting kinda stale at this point. It would be great to see another matchup. (yes, i understand it's for a competition for the paints, yes, it's still boring)
A lot of that gets fixed if you play for secondary points, since it means there are other ways to score than running the two teams straight at each other.
As a Kill team player, the Tac Ops should be played. Missions and game balance really need these across the board. In tournaments and local games, I can't imagine playing without them as the game is much more hollow without the need to strive for and score the tac ops. These really don't represent the meta and state of Kill Team and aren't that enjoyable without them.
We filmed these all together, but as we found out later after we had filmed it. That strat is utterly useless for genestealers. As if there in cover and concealed they can't be shot anyways. However in this case because of how close proximity James's orks was to the stealers they didn't get cover so from our understanding they should be obscured
@@PlayOnTabletop An operative that is the target of a shooting attack is considered to be Obscured if any cover line passes through terrain that confers obscurement (ex. terrain with Heavy trait), and is 2" or greater from the terrain granting obscurement. Potions of terrain granting obscurement can be negated if the attacking operative is within 1".
For this mission, basically the defender starts with 12 points, and for each specific number of explosives planted, the attacker steals some. Since they werent using tac ops, it was done the moment too many were planted
@@R3C0NSPARTAN Ahhh, ok. I was thinking that points were still being scored for killing off enemy units keeping the orcs ahead. Seems pretty OP just running in your leader unit at the end to sweep in one turn!
8:10 I'm not sure why the Dakka Boy couldn't shoot the genestealer that moved forward on turn one. Being on a vantage point vs a lower target allows you to treat conceal orders as engage orders. I'm enjoying the content, but please do work on the rule comprehension for your next productions!
Genestealers has an ability: Hidden Horror: While this operative has a Conceal order, it is always treated as having a Conceal order, regardless of any other rules (e.g. Vantage Point).
Had to stop watching after the very first attack. If her genestealer has conceal and is in cover, you can’t shoot it unless you’re within 2”. If you were within 2” (you were not) then she couldn’t retain dice for cover. This mistake set the scene for the rest of the vid, I couldn’t do it. Sorry.
Understandable. Sorry that we got that wrong. We were not understanding the cover rules correctly. Interpreting that because she was so far away from the cover she should not benefit from it. We’ve learned a lot from these episodes and hope that future episodes will be better examples of the game.
I live to see kill team content, especially with your guys' amazing editing, but i cant help but feel like everyone, both the players and viewers, are missing out on how great the game system is without secondary objectives. its what makes missions like this balanced
This KT content is so good, hope there will be lots more in the future
That was a weird mission. Seemed like defeding was way harder than attacking.
Yea it did
sounds about right
@@CasperTheRamKnight not right. As an ex marine, I'd definitely rather defend a position than attack one. The more you can control your battlefield, the better off you are.
Obviously this isn't real life, but if they had equal forces, Orks would have steamrolled her.
@@stonehorn4641 well yes, i get what you mean but like, orkz tho
@@stonehorn4641 i was agreeing w the commenter, like that it sounded about right what he said, that in fact was looking it was harder to defend than attacking
As much as I enjoyed the friendly banter, I can't say I enjoyed this mission as it was played at all. It was ridiculously one-sided without Tac Ops to make up points for the defender.
It's honestly such a shame, James ran an incredibly tight game, it really feels like he was robbed of the victory.
Nah he misplayed n she out played him he chose to defend if the mission was different she would of adapted. His game was good but not good enough to get a good screen for the objective. Solid fun thematic mission
I love these kill team games.
Please please please. PRETTY PLEASE, do more kill team games.
Great Viewing as usual James you missed that the Comms boys does 2 mortal wounds per crit when he rolls a crit. He would have nailed the Genestealer in turn two.
Awww Rebecca reminding James that he gets a crit Was great sportsmanship!!! Also James love to see it every time.
This match was full of great sportsmanship, Rebecca is a great opponent.
Everyone loves a good hoard vs hoard game. Who will win? The viewers.
Exactly 🎉
a hoard is someone who never throws away stuff. a horde is a large group
Rebecca is definitely getting better, and even more dangerous. Smart set up and start with lurk.
Thank you for bringing back Space Marine Steve and Kill Team back to the channel.
Feeling two-sided. I love every Playon episode yet I also beg for this Playon Octarius season to end. The number of rules being ignored is considerable and really makes me as a player uncomfortable yet all players are so charming and entertaining. Guess I could only hope for things to be better in the next KT season.
p.s. GW released some Killteam FAQ on November 4th yet did not mention it in any article in Warhammer Community. I would like to suggest u guys take a look and apply them in the next season
We understand. We shot all of these together and tried to go as simple as we could. Weve been taking tons of notes to apply to the next season, including the faqs and balance sheets that have come out since we shot it.
@@PlayOnTabletop This KT series has been hugely entertaining, and as a newbie to the hobby it's made me want to get into KT! I'm excited to see how this series improves as everybody gets better acquainted with the games!
@@PlayOnTabletop It's great to start a series where we can watch you grow from scratch instead of coming in when you've already been playing for years, it's a nice breath of fresh air
Love the Kill Team content and would love to see more! Also love having James on the channel! But man this battle seemed very one sided from the start. Let's have the Orks start short handed and put the Melee-focused Tyranids group within early striking distance!
Hey! Love the content, but I have one rules tip: at the end of the game, Rebecca made a free move action. But this means you can still not double move, which won her the game in this scenario
Loving Octarius, hope y'all do more KT seasons for the other warzones.
i love Rebecca named all her models with just regular people names
I just looked very carefully and the way you guys move the distance measure gives you 1-2 additional black triangles per movement XD
I do love the scheme of the genestealers. Reminds me of namekians from DBZ
Great game! James, being the best warboss, is also a gentle ork. He knows orks iz never beaten
For the greater sportsmanship
I'm pretty new to KT (3 games played), and just played this mission today. My Legionaries (attacker) got spanked by an Intercessor team (defender). Cool to see this pop up in my feed today!
Intercession Squad is pretty brutal. The sergeant can take a bolt rifle, a Vengeance-Class Scope and the Reclusium-Blessed bolts, and sling 4, 2+, P1, Lethal 5+, 4/5 damage shots twice per activation, plus Overwatch on 2+ with Methodical. Truly frightening.
@@Glocktagon I've lost to them twice, and 'quins once. I'm confident that I'm not playing well, nor playing with good team composition.
@@th0rg0d I like to prioritize my gaming as such:
1. Have fun
2. Play the game properly
3. Play the game well
4. Win
So long as I'm satisfying those directives in that order, I can't lose.
These are a great start into showing how great killteam is! But definitely will need work in the future seasons to come, if you guys ever need help form the killteam community PLEASE reach out!
I gotta say I was super excited to see kill team on the channel and I do love the players they're definitely entertaining themselves, but the rule inconsistencies has been a real big let down and been kind of uncomfortable to watch. I really can't wait for this season to end and hopefully see not only a more seasoned group take a crack at the game having made these mistakes and learned from them, but also have some of the crazy kill teams like warp Coven and Gellerpox and so on played
We understand. Thanks for your feedback. We filmed these all together, so some of the errors are of course systematic. We are trying to awknowdlge them and learn for the next season.
@@PlayOnTabletop I definitely look forward to the next season and hope ya'll don't get to discouraged by what I'm sure is plenty of feedback on the game. Still love the channel and will be watching!
Question: 8:25 shooting a concealed Gensteler thats in cover, when are you alloved to do that? Is it because they are both close to the cover? Noob question.
Hidden Horror: While this operative has a Conceal order, it is always treated as having a Conceal order, regardless of any other rules (e.g. Vantage Point).
@Richard van Dijk But when she do the saves for that attack she said "Ive got cover so I get to obain one dice as a save...". Hmmm anyone?
orange dices were hot this game:)) great series, please more killteam
@22:31, James could have rerolled all the dice with the unload slugs ability within 6 inches!
Are you guys using the mini dice or regular dice for most of these games?
Rebecca absolutely smashing everyone and it's great to see 🙊😏
Ngl didn’t like the mission at all. Expecially with genestealers on attack there was no way he was winning that when she can scuicide bomb onto point. But enjoy kt content so keep it up!
that mission felt really much in the attackers ball? Like firstly the defenders started with less models which against really killy killteams would have been great but here just really was pure downsides so idk how to feel on that and then on top of that their wasn't any real counterplay the defender could do against the action past kill good which is hard enough in even matches but they were starting with less to begin with so was really difficult
I have a question tho, at 8:29 the Ork boy shoots at the stealer but the stealer is in cover right and is concealed right? So how does the ork get to shoot at the stealer? Also after that Rebecca only retained one defense dice as a save instead of 2, but I thought her Lurk ploy gives her additional dice to defend if concealed or in cover.
If I remember correctly, ork boy being within 1 white circle of cover can actually shoot the genestealer. It would need to be more than 1 white circle(could be wrong here) away from cover to be obscured + conceal would make it invalid target without vantage point. I might be wrong though
Oh damn that flamer did a LOT more than I expected
You guys should use tape measures for next time, I feel like some of those movements weren’t correct lmao
Youve got to remember the re rolls for dakka boy!
I love KT and the fact PoT is doing videos on it it is just GREAT. Look forward to more and varied match ups!
I like these games, very story like emergent play.
Love the kill team content, keep it coming!
Your KT videos are the kettle corn of bat rep style content; sweet, salty and highly addicting!
So I'm pretty new to Kill Team myself, but couldn't she have cancelled out the crit with one of her own crits at 10:23? That's how it works in the rules, right? 0_o
So the attacker chooses whether or not they will attack the person or parry one of their dice. If the die hasn't already been parried then it will hit. Does that make sense?
@@thejomah It does, but that's my point exactly: She could have used a crit to parry one of his crits and the model would not have died! They do this multiple times actually, but it's not how I understand the rules as written
What size is the battlefield?
Regular kill team sized. We just used a bigger board for the display. We only played on the regular size inside it.
Awesome! 22 by 30?
I feel like I’ve finally gotten a good grasp on 40k and now this is like completely different. Reminds me of the “I Win” game from Big Daddy.
How come you dont play on a standard killzone size mat?
We do. The rest is just decoration
Production value was amazing. But something seemed off about the mission. The chart goes up to 7, but if you score 4+, you just win?
You know James is a Total Morg and Thorg profeth by now just by looking at his NOFX rocking t-shirt🤟🤟🤟
Yes, thx
James has played so well in both his games and then he just can't pull it through in the end
I don't get the save roll mech? the last battle she had 2 crits? couldn't she have stopped one
Love it! You guys are crushing it. Not just a T-shirt company after all lol
LOVING the KT reports. Can't wait to see more!
Great battle! I love the format and how digestable they are.
Great game, future KT's I'd love to see Votann, Drukhari, Chaos, Tau, Harlequins :P
Holy smokes! Nice win streak Rebecca!!
james is def my favorite GO ORKZ!!
Thx
@@JimJones-ur3el yw!
They are some really cool miniatures! Super nice painting
Another win for the Four-Armed Empress!
Rebecca is starting to develop an evil laugh there at the start. Should we be concerned, or just entertained?
Really one sided mission for a one sided match up. The genestealers really had a ton of advantages as a melee and charging focused unit against a smaller starting team.
Always a clear distinction between Teams that have their own solid ruleset and those that come out of the compendium. Good effort from both players
probably in the minority but seeing one half of these games always been genestealers, which are by far the most boring kt team. It's getting kinda stale at this point. It would be great to see another matchup.
(yes, i understand it's for a competition for the paints, yes, it's still boring)
A lot of that gets fixed if you play for secondary points, since it means there are other ways to score than running the two teams straight at each other.
Best kill team content…? 👍👍👍
James is always so entertaining. Also orks.
Thx
Deploy at 2x○? Normally is □ , what kind of mission? 😢
As a Kill team player, the Tac Ops should be played. Missions and game balance really need these across the board. In tournaments and local games, I can't imagine playing without them as the game is much more hollow without the need to strive for and score the tac ops. These really don't represent the meta and state of Kill Team and aren't that enjoyable without them.
We’re excited to use them. For us starting we needed to keep it simple. But future series for sure.
The Four-Armed Empress continues her rampage!!
How do you kill a bug? WITH FIRE! Haha
Those Ork Kommandos look slick. James's Orks are always a welcome sight.
maybe genestealers are broken, maybe the extra rules that y'all are putting off are what balances it out idk, maybe the player is just really good
The Orks look absolutely amazing. They were only painted using Army Painter stuff? And what stuff did you use exactly?
get the quick paints from armypainter they are crazy easy to use
@@sebastiantiefenbrunner6967 those are really just the quick-paints? Wicked...
I love the quality of this battle report,but guys so many mistakes !! anyway good video and i'm waiting for any eldar player :D
holy shit i love you guys
Thanks!
Wow! Thank you so much! Certainly helps us keep things going
What a surprising ending!
Really enjoyed this one, I love those orcs very cool team
Damn tyrannids undefeated?!
@16:30 on X1.5 speed
I tried the other speeds like x2 and the others and you’re correct that it’s the optimal dakka sound
Didn't Rebecca first start playing Kill Team as this series started? And she's managed to win every match we've seen.
Because the missions are not fair sadly i mean she had to do in each game was just run the other Team straight down. But atleast its fun to watch
kinda sus ngl
Don’t genestealers get an invulnerable save??
REBECCA!!!!! Hell ya!
Those nidz are no joke. That last CP won the game!
love the KT content, hope you guys will make more.
It annoys me so much that Rebecca keeps paying for a Strat Ploy and then keeps not using it.
We filmed these all together, but as we found out later after we had filmed it. That strat is utterly useless for genestealers. As if there in cover and concealed they can't be shot anyways. However in this case because of how close proximity James's orks was to the stealers they didn't get cover so from our understanding they should be obscured
@@PlayOnTabletop An operative that is the target of a shooting attack is considered to be Obscured if any cover line passes through terrain that confers obscurement (ex. terrain with Heavy trait), and is 2" or greater from the terrain granting obscurement. Potions of terrain granting obscurement can be negated if the attacking operative is within 1".
Burn em Bugz WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
Could someone explain why the genestealers won right at the end? I thought they were about to get tabled! Enjoyed as always!
For this mission, basically the defender starts with 12 points, and for each specific number of explosives planted, the attacker steals some. Since they werent using tac ops, it was done the moment too many were planted
@@R3C0NSPARTAN Ahhh, ok. I was thinking that points were still being scored for killing off enemy units keeping the orcs ahead. Seems pretty OP just running in your leader unit at the end to sweep in one turn!
Magical premier.🤩
The genestealers kill team feels so boring against the rest of the other teams, but maybe that's just me
but they kick ass:D
Moar Kill Team!
8:10 I'm not sure why the Dakka Boy couldn't shoot the genestealer that moved forward on turn one. Being on a vantage point vs a lower target allows you to treat conceal orders as engage orders. I'm enjoying the content, but please do work on the rule comprehension for your next productions!
Genestealers has an ability: Hidden Horror: While this operative has a Conceal order, it is always treated as having a Conceal order, regardless of any other rules (e.g. Vantage Point).
@@TheGhoulfriend Thank you very much, it was going to bug me trying to work that out!
Kill team content! Wooo!
Rebecca is doing amazing considering shes using one of the worst rated teams in the game and shes still dominating with them, thats talent
Great game, great story :-D.
JOHNNY NOOOOOO!
orks!!!!
can you upload more games
Orks is da best!! Orks is neva beaten
I like her team but I wish she was playing Wyrmblade instead. Where is her team from?
She uses the genestealers from space hulk.
Waaaaaaggghhhh
Whaaaaaagh
Could one of them gone with Custodes? Maybe like 3 or models lol
Neat.
I’m here for the Ork!
Had to stop watching after the very first attack.
If her genestealer has conceal and is in cover, you can’t shoot it unless you’re within 2”. If you were within 2” (you were not) then she couldn’t retain dice for cover. This mistake set the scene for the rest of the vid, I couldn’t do it. Sorry.
Understandable. Sorry that we got that wrong. We were not understanding the cover rules correctly. Interpreting that because she was so far away from the cover she should not benefit from it. We’ve learned a lot from these episodes and hope that future episodes will be better examples of the game.
The ork boy reroll :( lol
With FIRE!!!! Hahaha
WaaaAAAGGGH