Chevy vs Ford - Key Fob Technology
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- 2022 US sales - Full Size Pickups
GM Trucks (COMBINED)* 754,876
Ford F-Series - 653,957
Chevrolet Silverado - 513,354
GMC Sierra - 241,522
Dodge Ram - 545,195
Toyota Tundra - 94,429
Nissan Titan - 15,064
Nissan Titan Canada Sales Data
Canada Annual Sales
Year Sales Units
2012 3,499
2013 3,410
2014 3,022
2015 3,226
2016 2,715
2017 5,692
2018 5,445
2019 2,807
2020 1,218
2021 414
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Way more technology than needs to be in newer vehicles .
Hi Terry
The future is scary as we witnessed a time before digital anything was invented as we watched the Jetsons and thought it was just make-believe 🤣
These days if any junk built since 2020 starts you are ahead of the game.😂
HAHAHA , Hi Glen . This Silverado cost almost as much as my first house and the same truck bought today would be more so junk is getting more expensive every year 🤣😅
I see your keys now I can cut one lol
HAHAHA 👍
Good info about the key Fobs. I haven't had trouble yet but I'm sure my time is coming. Keeping extra batteries handy is smart Steve
Hi Lloyd
Imagine pouring rain and heading out to your truck in the middle of nowhere and can't unlock the doors :) yep a spare battery is a must have.
Hi Steve. Let me explain. The FORD key fob battery lasted 14 years because the truck was broken down in the driveway, sitting on flat tires and leaking oil into the asphalt. ha ha Just like my F-150! Sometimes, Dollar Store batteries (even brand name ones) are often seconds and don't last. I've seen Panasonic batteries at the Dollar store go dead in short order compared to Energizer/Duracell. Interesting that the new fobs won't let you lock it inside. That's a good thing! I've locked my self out many times! Good info about the future of Toyota in Canada. I like the Toyotas but my wallet does not!! Thanks for keeping it REAL, Steve!
HAHAHA , hi Craig . You have to look hard for a new Toyota Tundra out here , it's a shame as them trucks are awesome but prople just don't buy them , it's the big three big time. Love my Ford and chevy , maybe a dodge next time .
I got 7 years out of my dump fob. My son got 5 years from his smart fob. He couldn't start his car loke you said.
Kenny
Hi Kenny
Maybe when I try the Duracell it might be better. Now I know to keep a spare battery on hand always just in case.
You made a good point about the life of the batteries and why that is so. Yes, Toyota makes great trucks.
Hi Wyatt
No such thing as bad trucks anymore as their all high quality builds but some expensive. Seen a Denali 3500 on the lot $142,000 Canadian , Holly Cow who's got that kinda scratch eh🤣
Toyota is about to open it's 10th plant in N. Carolina this year to help meet the demand. They are still selling Tundra's for 10K over sticker around here.
Hi Terry
Toyota overall is doing great but the Tundra sales have never competed with the big three. Their great trucks like the Nissan Titan but people just don't buy them like the big 3 .
Another reason I don't want push button start. My 17 Tundra the fobs still have the factor batteries but my truck still uses a key. Love My Tundra. 60K no issues no squeaks rattles or leaks. Went over 7K on last oil change Was still full Never added oil
2013 GMC list of issues Got rid of it at 26K Burned oil Nearly a qt per 1 thousand miles. Lifter failure. Rattles. list of other issues
At 1:38 Ford Remotes old simple they have a Carburetor Chevy Remotes to new they are Fuel Injected
My 2010 f150 is fuel injected , you have to go back to the mid 1980's for a carburetor 😉
I just replaced the ones in the rogue after 8 years i only replaced the 2007 focus twice and the 2023 kia seems like it needs one now lol
Hi Jason
The more technology in vehicles the harder it is on batteries. I read years ago how future petrol vehicles will need 24 to 48 volts batteries to keep up to the electrical demand .
@@SteveRobReviews just 🤪
Unfortunately just about everything is over technical even in trucks!!
So true , it's like we're riding in a big laptop 🤣😅
Gotta say I disagree with your Toyota comment. The Nissan Titan was not a very good truck. The Tundra is an outstanding truck with Toyota reliability. The problem is the cost of the Tundra VS the cost of the 150 or 1500. I purchased a new F 150 at considerably less money than the Tundra. If money was no object hands down I would have bought the Tundra.
Not sure what comment on Toyota Tundra your disagreeing with ? - I said Toyota builds a great truck as does every other manufacturer in my view .
@@SteveRobReviews just the general comment that Toyota won’t be around. I’d say they are here to stay. But I guess we’ll find out in the future. Cheers
Mike my comment of won't be around was in Canada , just like the Nissan Titan the sales kept dropping to the point where it was not logical to keep shipping to a country with little sales. Look at the sales for 2022 in the description box. Toyota will keep producing in Texas but it has never competed with the sales of the big 3. Their making money selling about 100-125K tundras a year but in Canada or in so many other countries its just not a big seller. Cheers 👍
@@SteveRobReviews maybe they’ll bring the cost down more in line with their competitors? 🤷♂️
@maintenancewithmike A $60,000.00 tundra in America is $81,000.00 in Canada so the exchange rate is a challenge for sales. The American dollar is still #1 in the world but outside of America the rest of the world can't match the USD . Canadian dollar is about 73 cents to the USD and headed towards the Mexican paso 🤣🤣.
Thats all good information Steve. The way I see it, buy buy Nisan and Toyota and with that all them electric véhicules.....CHEERS
I can't see me buying an all electric truck ever but the wife would like to buy a electric car for around town soon and trade in the F150
I know when my remote battery is low because it faults and unlocks the trunk - how is that for genius engineering lol😂 I think some of this new tech is dumb. Found out lately that the four wheel steering on Teslas Cyber trucks is entirely controlled by wire - no potential for issues there right? 😂 Thanks, cheers
Hi Ed
Were headed into forced technology that is not fully understood but as consumers were given a warranty that makes us feel secure till it runs out LOL
How's she goin'? My new 23 Bronco has this keyless start feature. I don't like it even a little. But they say in the manual there is a warning light on the dash that will light up if the battery in the remote is getting low. Also you can place the key on a spot in the console and it allows you to start the car with a dead fob battery. There is a pretty involved procedure to do this though. You have to press on the brake and hold your nose just right and be looking to the east I think!! LOL I was surprised that you think Toyota will not be selling trucks in a few years. Toyota trucks are very popular around here. Everyone sort of likes the Tundra. Thanks for sharing this info Steve. It's interesting and eye opening. Take care!!
Hi Mike, the keyless fobs don't appeal to me either. I like to have a REAL key with me in the vehicle (for opening my mail).Haha
The fob I have for the Bronco is pretty heavy and a perfect size for throwing at squirrels!!@@EverydayProjects
I drove the truck a week before and no message displayed on the silverado. Toyota just can't sell their tundra in big numbers like the big 3. Great trucks but it's rare I see one out here compared to Ford chevy dodge.
@@GrampiesWorkshop Thieves have been targeting the RF transmitters. They will approach a house and scan using an antenna and a box they carry to pick up the RF signal broadcast from the key fobs (usually hung on a holder near the front door). Within minutes, they can then use this information to enter and start the vehicle--and drive away! Older, key and fob systems are not foolproof (I have one, that proves it) but they involve overcoming the key lock mechanism as well as the RF. Who knows what the best system is??? Eventually, when we've all been forced to go electric, the key fobs laying all over may well find other uses, like deterring squirrels.
My 2020 is over 3 1/2 years old and still haven't changed batteries, but I will now before I run into problems.
Hi Gary
I actually never thought about the keyfobs untill they went dead.
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See you in a couple of years!
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Wow I can't believe that y'all don't want them Tay Yoters. They run for ever. I would have bought one but they didn't make a 1 ton. Yeah in 2011 I bought a ram because it was way cheaper than a Chevy or Ford. I got the cheap truck with no key fob but it does have a chip in the key. We have 2 Nissan cars , 1 Toyota and the newest is a Mazda. Only had to replace the batteries once in the 2014 Nissan and once in the 2011 Toyota. Of course those are the keys that we uses everyday and the others are still kickin.
Hi Billy
Last year Nissan sold under 500 titans up here in 2021. Toyota numbers are better but not by much . It's Ford chevy dodge up here . Dodge outsells Ford and Chevy in some parts but overall the big three are the big hitters. I've never seen a township truck or a construction truck badged Toyota, like you say no diesel, no 3/4 or 1 tons .
I went through this with my Kia. The cheep batteries only lasted a few months. I ended up bying lithium and be done with it! As for the truck thing we first have to wait until the revolt against EV's has begun and passed to see what going to happen.
Take care Steve✌
Hi Marc
The Duracell lithium batteries will be put to the test soon I assume. I don't see this electric taking off for a long time especially up here with no charging stations or people willing to pay more for electric vs gasoline. Cheers 👍
You shouldn't need an operating battery in the fob to start your truck. In all the keyless vehicles I've seen, there is a process documented in the owner's manual. It requires placing or holding the fob in the specified location. The vehicle has a transmitter coil in that location that can detect the RFID in the fob even when the fob battery is dead. Typical locations include by the start button, on a tray on or inside the console, a storage cubby in the dash, a spot in the glove box, etc.
Being stored in the pouch might make the battery die faster. Some active RFID things send a ping then listen/sense their environment. They get unhappy if they don't receive any response so they "ping harder" (higher transmit power). (They don't need any specific response, but just enough to that they were heard.) Cell phones do the same thing - if they cannot reach a tower when they ping, they ping harder. Doesn't have to be their provider tower. Any response will do. Pretty much like a child calling for his mother, not because something is needed, only to make sure they are not alone.
Keeping the battery out of the spare fob is a good way to store it to preserve the battery.
Great points Sylvan , thanks 👍
Interesting that the batteries died at the same time despite the difference in usage. My F150 doesn't even have power locks! lol
Bruce this new technology should send me a text message to change the batteries. 🤣
@@SteveRobReviewsmy refrigerator connects to WiFi and orders new water filters when it needs them! Hahahahaha
Steve, I just replace my batteries in my 2020 Chevy Truck and my 2020 Chevy Equinox yesterday. None of key fobs went dead but I did get a notice on my information screen that they needed replaced.
Interesting it was displayed on the dash . My truck sits most of the time . Just turned 21K Klm.
@@SteveRobReviews So does mine. I'm at 6,000 miles and counting.
Oh Boy I have a new tundra 1794 edition had to put better tires on it for off road but other than that ,it’s great. Hopefully I didn’t make that big of a mistake. Also have a new BMW how are they doing up in Canada. This is my 3 Toyota and 4 BMW’s all been great Nice to know about the key battery’s 👍 hope you’re doing good Steve.
Hi Joe
Toyota is an awesome company that will be building the tundra in Texas for a long time into the future but up in Canada or other countries not so much. Your 1794 is about 100K in Canadian dollars so low tundra sales up here is price related for sure as we're not as rich as most Americans are :)
A Tundra 1794 is in the 70’s maybe a little less than ford with equal options which may be in the 80’s and higher. But all trucks in the US are not selling and the dealerships have a lot of them. They’re up side down, people are not buying. The US dollar is doing good but it’s not that good. We’ll see but don’t think prices are coming down that fast . Probably the same problem 🤨little different . Have a good one Steve.
Thanks Steve, I just replaced the battery in my 2019 Keyfob last week (5 years). It WAS very cold, I was at a gas station finished up and nothing! It said "No Keyfob Detected". I had to find the little pocket for starting it. I haven't checked the fob in my faraday bag....need to do that. I know that everyone has their favorites, and I won't own a Ford and in my opinion, Nissan is the "Ford of Japan" so not being able to buy one is a blessing for the folks in Canada. I was very relieved that I didn't need to sync the fob after I replaced the battery. Cheers my YT friend.
Hi Larry
There is a huge youtuber always bashing the big three on youtuber and telling everyone to buy toyota , not sure how much you get paid to do that :) . I don't see a bad truck made today in North America so it's buy what you like . My Ford is on par with my chevy so maybe a dodge ram next time.
2024 is the last year for Titan production world wide. I really want a titan xd but parts availabilty really has me concerned. Honda actually gives you a warning on the info center when the fob battery gets low. Not sure about other manufactuerers.
Hi Pat
From the people I know that have the titan it's awesome but parts will be a huge problem.