TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 0:43 Specs 1:45 Gaming benchmark (no GPU) 2:27 Gaming benchmark (GPU) 3:07 Cinebench benchmark 3:52 Comparison to modern CPU 4:56 Overclocked benchmarking 5:58 Why I bought this 7:00 Outro
Still running mine, bought fresh in 2012. It's been OCed to 4,5 GHz during all this time. Paired now with an RTX 3060 12GB and 32 GB 1866 MHz DDR3. This thing is still able to run the latest AAA games in 1080p ultra @ 80 to 95~100 fps. A beast !
Get on MY level. Gaming in 2023 with 3770k OC @4.4GHZ AND the integrated graphics HD4000 OC @1500mhz (pulled 30W max, tripled from stock 10W, holy cow) Dirt 3, solid 60fps, 1600x900 Dirt Rally, 55fps, 720p EU Truck sim 2, 50fps, 1080p Portal 2, Half-life 2, max settings, 60fps.
Still using i7-3770K mate... and watching this video in 2024! I did upgrade the GPU once in 2017. It's been 12 years for me with this processor and it's a rock-solid performer. Only now I am looking to do a new build using the latest i5-14600K after all these years. For me, it was the CPU stability that made me kept going with it.
I'm finally retiring mine. Been running it since it's launch 12 years ago. It was a fantastic CPU, that I chose specifically because it seemed like the best option for longevity and capability at the time. Did it ever prove me correct. My system was an i7 3770k, 16gb ram, and a GTX 770 4gb. It was capable of running modern titles for the most part all the way up to 2019. From 2020-2023 I still used it to run RTS and strategy games. Sadly most new RTS titles are now beyond that builds capability. It has given me 12 good years as my daily driver. Been with me through 6 different homes and played games and surfed the internet for more hours then I could possibly count. She's served me well, so it's time to retire her from my service and move her on to someone else. So I built a new one and set out to clean the old one up and sell it. In the interest of keeping costs down, with my new build. I chose the Ryzen 5 7600 6 core CPU. It gave me a cheaper route into the new AM5 boards, while allowing me to upgrade to a better 8 or 12 core AM5 later down the line when 6 cores is no longer enough. I paired it with 32gb ddr5 ram, and a RX 6750xt. So far the CPU and gpu combo is doing fantastic in games. I'm getting 60fps ultra settings on my 60hz 1440p monitor without any issues. I see many people pairing more modern GPU's like a RX6600 or RTX 3050's with the old I7 3770k for far better performance then my old GTX 770 4gb was capable of. Hopefully I can find someone to sell it too who will appreciate the build, and maybe breath some new life into it by adding a better GPU. As it stands without that upgrade my old build won't be capable of modern gaming. I think the old i7 3770k has a couple good years left in it, for retro or budget gaming. But it's quickly coming up on the end of it's usefulness in modern games even if paired with a decent 1080p GPU. Good word of advice. Don't ever buy a case that has a rubberized coating on the plastic. My Cooler Master Storm Trooper case I used on my old build 12 years ago. Had all of it's rubberized coating degrade and turn into a giant sticky mess that would rub off on or stick to your hands. I spent 14hrs with rags and rubbing alcohol getting it all off and the system clean enough to sell. Cleaning it off was extremely hard and took way longer then I had anticipated. Never again will I buy a case with that coating.
im still rocking the i7-3770k, its a damn workhorse. can still play 2023 AAA at 1080p mostly staying at 60fps paired with a 1070 and 32gb of 2400MHz ram and some SSDs
I Just dusted off my 10 year old Build containing this CPU 32gb Ram ddr3, and slapped a 3090ti in there, and was shocked how well it worked. I mainly use it as a GPU Render Node.
I just picked up 3770k for 70 Aud (aprox 50 usd) for that price and considering that i already have the compatible motherboard and ram it will be a good office/study pc.
@@hardwiredreviewi really wonder if the new intel Arc 750 gfx cards would be a good bet for a 3770K build. Or would it bottleneck it? Imean im stock @ like 3.5 Ghz. What you think? Iv 16 GB ram btw.
This is a good video. I have a 3770k on a Z77 xtreme4 from asrock. Sitting at 4.6, 1600mhz ddr3 16gb. I used to have a 3570k @ 5ghz. Just a year ago I found a 3770k for $100 online, it was worth the upgrade. Sucks that I'm looking at an entire mobo ram and cpu upgrade to go with my newer 2070 GPU, but this combo is still kicking ass.
That's awesome, I had no idea so many people still used this CPU! After using it myself and hearing from others, its a beast for it's age. Thanks for watching!
@@hardwiredreview Glad I could shed some input on it. Yeah it's a powerhouse. Honestly even the 3570k, especially at 5ghz, was a weapon. I still have the chip. It's been delidded and lapped, about 6 degrees variance between cores. I may put this 3770k under the knife soon, thermals aren't great considering my Noctua D15 with 3 140mm fans on it.
Don't underestimate older hardware, I'm sure you've seen other channels focusing on older hardware, lots of us still run it. Heck I've still got a socket 775 system running a Pentium e2140 at a 100 % overclock. Yes I took the FSB from 200mhz to 400mhz with a 8x multi. It screams as a KILLER livingroom media PC that does some random gaming with the GTX 240 that's installed.
My 2070 I got bare used with some board damage, fixed it up and found an arctic cooler for it, did a shunt mod and overclocked the shit out of it, holds about 2200mhz on the core and a metric ton on the memory without erroring, and holds dream temperatures. I can't wait to put a PROPER CPU in to really put the card to the test, in real world gaming the CPU taps out LONG LONG LONG before the GPU.
FYI - My Cinebench R23 score with Multi Core is 4315 using i7 3700k @ 4.6GHz. Single core is 919. It was de-lidded with liquid metal between heat spreader and die, and has a 360mm AIO. I can't get it stable above 4.6 -- probably too old or not the right bin or motherboard just can't push it further -- but it's about as good as it gets for a build of this time period. Motherboard is a ASRock Z77 Extreme6, 32GB DDR3 @ (effective) 2400MHz 10-12-12-30-2T.
Mine tops out at 4.7. I got it at 4.5 for stability. Also delidded with Liquid Metal. Temps dropped 10c easy after delid, but I couldn’t get the frequency any higher than my max pre-delid.
I am curious about a few things: 1: that motherboard seems quite OEM/generic i am not aware of any of those who can overclock, let alone have a VRM to handle it. 2: What were the temps at full load/stability testing? 3: What voltage did you use to achieve 5 GHz? 4: Was the CPU delidded or just with stock thermal paste under the IHS? Because those 3770Ks seems to run hot once overclocked at 1.25-1.3V without delidding. 5: Why no testing with and without overclocking? I am asking this, not only to look for inspiration for my own overclocking tests and benchmarks, but also because i think the video lacks some detail and context that can be crucial to those, who might be interested in overclocking and benchmarking with their own systems.
I still run win7 with this processor and love it LOL, I've had to replace the HD but this PC still works great, I did upgrade the grafix card to a 1660 after 8 years.
ISTR that the popular opinion at the time was that i7-2600k owners didn’t have a lot of reasons to upgrade to the 3770k. That’s probably why there are more Sandy Bridges around, and why they’re proportionally much cheaper than the 3770k (in my experience, anyway) Could be interesting to compare the two? Anyway, good luck with the channel, keep up the good work 👍
Paired my i7 3770 with rx 580 8gb sapphire nitro, 16GB hyperX 1866mhz and it run really well , just built this setup like 3 months ago , i do play Fortnite , Naraka : Bladepoint , Genshin Impact , Valorant , GTA 5 , Watch Dogs 2 , Assassins Creed Unity , i dont have any frames problem with this setup and maybe i would upgrade my gpu soon to get more fps xD most of the games i played with high settings and some of them on medium settings. I spent like 282.25 Dollars on this setup and i guess theres no point to build another modern pc because this setup still can handle most of the games that i want to play :) .
I remeber when this chip first debuted. It was the chip everyone ran to to measure up against. If it was not at least on par with the 3770k it was considered childs play. Still a beastly chipset into this day. I had it with 2 670's in sli. Those were the days that even the biggest amd processor just couldn't beat this not to even mention the X series of intel.
i prefer to buy old hardware than dumping to e-waste,recently just bought a k39 sff case for this purpose..h81+i7 4770+16gb 1600mhz all for $150 and thats even cheaper than an i3 12100 alone in my country
I just got a 3770k for my z68 board. And got a Xeon 2680v4 like $20 with a $110 z99 board with ram probably costing about $80. Waiting for it to come in.
Great review. Thank you. I had one of those under my desk that I hardly used after an upgrade, so I gave that old machine to my kid, and he enjoyed playing games on it. Also, he quit using my new one. It worked out well. I stayed out of prison, and he stayed above ground.
1070ti is probably the best possible match for this CPU.. still give you lots of decent gaming for another couple of years I'd say.. but I'd only do that whilst I was saving up for a truly modern system
@amangamer465 with the 1070, I'm at around 50 fps at high settings for monster hunter world, in fights drops into the 40s, and the cpu is at around 60%usage. So I'd say it's safe to upgrade. You could even get a 3060, and get around that of the 1070ti, plus raytracing. What I'm shooting for tbh.
I’m thinking of doing the same setup. I have a GTX 680 right now lol, need to upgrade. What’s your CPU clock speed and did you consider the 3050, 3060 TI, or the 3080?
@@maverick7200 Right now im at 4,7 Ghz overclocked, I was going for a 2060 at first, but the seller told me about the 3060ti, great card but it's almost +$100 usd for only 15 fps difference against the 3060, also the model of the 3060ti in the shop was a PALIT, nothing against them but the 3060 I got was a EVGA 3060 XC, the 3080 is too expensive for this recycled setud I made, it runs fantastic with the 3060 but a 3080 would bottleneck like crazy with the 3770k and the ddr3 memories. the investment is higher for a 3080 (new psu, new memories) but If u have the money and think about updating mobo+cpu+rams in the future the 3080 is the best decision. stay away from the 3050, it's a horrible graphics card (it's decent but for the same money u could get the 3060 with the double of perfomance). I made the jump from a 960 gtx and oh man, the difference was day vs night, now almost any modern game runs at 90-165 fps and older games from 2020 or before runs at 165 solid fps with my g-sync display. is a really good investment for saving some old hardware, go for it, the 3060 is what your 3770k needs!
@@maverick7200 the overclock got me around +30 fps in almost any game, it's important to pair your 3770k with a good mobo, I got the ASUS Maximus IV GENE-Z mini atx in aliexpress for this project and it's working really well.
@@abrahamalviarez5870 awesome thank you so much for this insight! Yeah I don’t want to do a complete rebuild right now, I want to still keep using my original setup since 2012, don’t feel like I used it enough lol. Is your CPU liquid cooled?
@@maverick7200 yes! I got the Cougar Aqua 120 for it, it's around 70 usd. It's one of those all in one AIO, just install and forget, it comes with its own liquid and sealed. I did a little mod in the AIO attaching a second fan to it, it have one fan in front of the radiator and one behind, just like those Corsair AIOs, the temps are excellent, at full load it never goes beyond 70C°
I'm not a gamer, but I did a custom build with a 3770K (Gigabyte G1.Sniper M3 mobo, twin Intel 120GB SSDs RAID0) about 12 years ago, and it's still my all-day every-day workhorse! No GPU even, still using the onboard HD4000 graphics. I bought a GPU (R9 270) but I never got around to installing it. LOL! Since then, I have upgraded the SSDs to WD Blue 500GB (RAID0 so reads as a single 1TB drive), I added a 1TB HDD for "offline" storage of old files, and a 2TB HDD for backups. Just in the last 6 months, I've been getting some spontaneous reboots mid-task (1 or 2 a month, no BSODs), so I think my PSU might be nearing end of life. I am self-employed, so reliability is mission-critical, and this beast has NEVER let me down. Not once in 12 years. Peaks at Windows 10, so I'm thinking about upgrading, but honestly it's hard to justify since it's still meeting my needs with room to spare. And, before you go there, I did not over-buy; I future bought. I stand by my investment 100%.
Great video. I'm still using the 3770K as my main CPU today (yes, for ten years now)...I must admit...I'm not a gamer....I do a lot of virtualization though using Virtualbox..funny thing is..when I want to work in Ms Foxpro 2.6 for windows I have to put the vm machines cpu to 30% max otherwise Foxpro crashes because the cpu is too fast....it makes one wonder :-)
This is my CPU since 2014. I am using an Intel Z68 Asus Motherboard. And an MSI GTX 1070 GPU. I play Far Cry 6, Assassin's Creed Valhalla and other games at 1080p 60fps.
About the same time that i had mine. I don't play games much these days, but I program them - I'm not a pro - and my setup is still fine to run Unity, and program games using the URP pipeline. If I have any issues it's usually memory related, as I have a relatively paltry 8GB. Occasionally I do things like video conversion, and the 3770 is great, even now. I thought it was great when I bought it, but it's certainly passed the test of time. I had to upgrade every couple of years before I had the 3770.
I had an 11 year old build with the i7-3770k that continued to perform and do all the productivity and gaming I asked of it. Things like GPU and the HDD had to be upgraded due to age or dying, but that CPU is still going. Only reason I don’t have it still is because I moved and couldn’t bring it with me.
this is why my 10 year old rig with nothing but SSD and 1070ti improvements since build still works like a champ. its been the longest lived system ive had, always wondered what was responsible for that. it will still play games very well at 1080p for the most part, i dont really care about FPS until they drop low enough for my old eyes to see it. dont play games on the computer much these days now and i plan on keeping this machine in service for another 5 years at least as a plex server and other tasks that need more performance but can simply wait just a bit longer, like video conversion and editing etc. for anything other than gaming i really haven't noticed a performance drop since i put it together, new systems used to wow me big time back in the 90s and 2000's now days im just like well its just another computer... figured they kinda hit the upper end for the time being, i started this build out with 32gb ram and modern prefabs max out at like 16gb. guess i have this processor to thank lol
Was looking for one of these and managed to get one for around 45 dollars second hand. It works perfectly and saves me from having to buy 150 - 200 dollars worth of hardware for an upgrade (modern CPU, which I'll need a new motherboard for and new ram).
Still running this cpu, paired with 16g mem and an msi 3070, although nowadays she is in semi retirement only now being used as a plex server. She has served me well.
Great info! I was to get a pc with i3 10105f with 1660 but now i could only purchase a gpu for my this old beast. Thank you brother for saving my $1099
Yeah one of the best this one! Right now, 2023, my main PC has a 3770k, delided, 4.6ghz, ddr3-2400 cl11, and its holding my vega 64 very well! 😍 It will retire now and I'll send it to the office, it will work much less and with less overclock stress but it was a great journey together 💙
Recently undusted my 10 year old PC with a i7-4770. I was hoping to maybe turn it into a mini workstation. Glad to see that these CPUs still perform well.
I recently bought a 4770K just for fun and to go with a Gigabyte Z87 G1 Sniper that I got for a friendly price. The 4770K will do about 4.7GHz with good temps, and can still game just fine if not exceptionally well. I keep it around as a test bench and for video transcoding with QuickSync since the rest of my rigs are HEDTs that don't have an iGPU. But I might also make it my media server since it works great for tasks like that. Older tech is fun!
My dad uses his pc which had i5 2500k and 8gb 1333 ram and gtx750ti .. I had few extra money and bought the processor for only 80$ and it's giving way much better performance now..He is happy
I got a cheap 2013 Dell Optiplex on eBay in 2022 with this chipset, slapped in a 650w PS and a 1660ti and have been sim racing on it with no problems for over a year
I'm running a 3770k running 4.6 at 1.3 v core custom water loop 45c gaming and 70c full load with ASUS sabretooth z77 motherboard, 16g and 6700xt overclocked and i can run any modern game. The new next gen Witcher 3 update with full raytracing and all Ultra+ at 50-55 fps. I'm still not CPU bottlenecked. Great processor
Great video! This video is actually causing me to pull the trigger on a new GPU. I'm in the same boat, built my PC back in 2012 with the 3770k don't want to upgrade the entire system but now that gpus are back on the market I'm going to be getting the RTX 3060ti today! I'm upgrading from the GT 640... Do you think it will be much of an improvement?
@@hardwiredreview haha I was being somewhat facetious when I asked if it will be much of an improvement, I am indeed looking forward to this upgrade... been waiting essentially 2 years....thanks again for the video and to some of the commenters... I will be clicking the checkout button momentarily!
@@thekenmorgan let me know how it went for you! I put a 3090ti in my old build and that thing is now a monster destroying my Mac studio Ultra in GPU tasks.
I'm still on my ivy bridge, ran a I5 3570k from 2013 up until a couple years ago and bought a 3770k off ebay for less than $100 to get me a couple more years. I run it at 4.6 with 32 GB of 2400 DDR3 with a rx5700xt GPU. It will run anything great at 1080p ultra and most things at 1440p high or ultra very well.
Currently using a 3770k overclocked to 4.5 with 32 gigs of 2400mhz ram and an RX 6700XT for graphics. Simply love it, with games like Halo infinite running at 60fps locked on Ultra :)
@fridaycaliforniaa236 maybe early on, but I noticed a huge change when I got the kit in place of the 1600mhz kit that I had running 1866 :) I even use it to edit the podcast I run with my friends which has just started doing video, lol
Awesome video! I have the exact same acer motherboard (X4620G B75 chipset MB, running a I3 3240), And i'm looking to buy a second handed I7 3770 from the market. But i've got a question on how you overclocked the I7 3770 in your video. I don't believe that a OEM board (ACER) would allow any overclocking or any BCLK options in the bios. Did you use another Z77 motherboard that allows overclocking? Or did you flashed a custom bios to bypass the OEM Acer motherboard Or does the OEM ACER motherboard already has a overclocking feature built-in? - I'm buying the I7 with the (K) that allows OC multiplier changes, I'm worried that i won't be able to overclock on my acer mb. If it's not overclockable i'll go with a regular I7 3770 (without the K) because i already have a 1155 motherboard. - But i would rather go buy a new motherboard with I5 10400 which will be better in every aspect of the I7 3770. Thank you for reading :)
@@hardwiredreview Thank you for confirming it! On your next video you should try to get your hands on a e3 1270. The xeon E3 1270 is like a I7 3770 alternative for half the price of the I7.
Don't forget that the i3 10100F, like any processor marked with the "F" at the end does not have an integrated GPU in the chipset and requires a dedicated graphics card. Why would this be important you ask? Without an option to opt for integrated graphics one could not run virtualization software, should you want to.
This exact i7 3770K i still have at present! Coupled with even older EVGA GTX 770 that served me many years! The graphics card just died. So now im using intels iGPU to power the HDMI ports for my Philips GSync 144hz. Im mostly gaming at TV at present so its PS4 Pro. The good thing bout the console is that its still working, while graphics cards for pc dies after few years. So next up ill spend my money on PS5 Pro instead. And just keep pc for music production, 3D softwares or other.
At 1:22 you said “you can get a full gigahertz over clock (3.5 base to 4.5) witches more than you can get from any modern chip” can’t the I9-10900k overclock from a base of 3,7 ghz to 5.2 ghz?
Yeah, what I meant to say is for the price, you can't get a CPU that can overclock this far. Also this CPU has the potential to boost to over 5Ghz as well.
Ivy Bridge isnt worth buying anymore since most latest titles need a minimum of AVX 2.0, which it lacks If you still want a cheaper option, the Haswell is the best option since it's got AVX 2.0
The i7 3770K will be excellent, but already having an air-cooled i5 2500K 3.3GHz @4.8GHz with Noctua on the Z68 chipset, I don't think it's worth switching to an i7. Given the well-known overclocking limit of Ivy-Bridge compared to the Sandy -Bridge, I find it practically useless to incur an expense to have a truly negligible increase in performance without managing to increase the longevity of a machine that still today, miraculously and worthily, does its dirty work. In my case I could switch to i7 3770K, double the RAM (from 16 to 32GB DDR3 1600MHz) and change my GTX 1080 Ti for a newer video card. But is it really worth it? I would spend a lot of money to be trapped in a system that is and still remains old. Maybe it would be better to keep squeezing this machine until the titles are unplayable.
If you can find an I7 3770k for under $50 it would probably be worth it. But finding one for a reasonable price isn't easy. I was just in the same boat you were. I was two GPU generations behind what you had, using a gtx 770 4gb. It paired with the i7 3770k was no longer capable of playing new releases. So after doing some research I opted instead of an upgrade, to just do a whole new build. Glad I did, I'm now having no issues getting 60+fps in games at ultra settings 1440p
I've got a bit of a niche usage case for this cpu. I've had a 3570k OC'd to 4.4ghz for the past 10 years, and I would like to upgrade but I am tight on cash since I am taking a trip to Peru and going to a large concert festival soon. I have this paired with a 5700XT GPU and 16GB of DDR3 ram at 2000mhz. Since the 3570k doesn't have hyperthreading, I cannot stream my favorite game Smite on twitch without dropping in game frames. Early next year, I am hoping to completely upgrade my pc from the ground up, but do you think the 3770k has the headroom for livestreaming? Just looking to get another 6 months-1 year out of my current platform since money is tight and I can snag this for 68USD or less. Thanks for the video, subbed!
In other words, try imagining your base ps4 still running games today at a good fps by simply dropping another 200~ dollars or less on it (1660 super). Or if you were an average gamer and happened to have built a 3770k system on a budget a few years ago, you're still getting a heck of a deal for the money you spent.
I have seen a comparison in framerates with a 4090. This processor gives you only around 25 to 33 percent lower framerates with a 4090 than the newest one. And you get it for 80€ on ebay. And if it burns you´ll get a new one for 70. They JUST WORK for modern games. I have one. Combined it with a RX 7600 today. The witcher 3 next gen update runs on RAYTRACING ULTRA ( which is the highest settings) with 35 fps. without raytracing on everything ULTRA+ i have around 60fps on average. ( Less in towns, more in free spaces ). RDR2 runs with 70!!! fps on everything ULTRA. Even without FSR2. And shadow of mordor with 126fps. On 1080p of course. But who the heck needs 4k on a pc monitor, which is normally maximum 28"? Everything looks far too sharp and artificial in 4k unless you use a 55" TV or bigger.
I bought the cpu in early 2013 and still using it with a rocking Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 OC xD only thing i upgraded in last 10 years was my hardrive to ssd and win7->win10 still loving my first ever build pc
Technically when the 3770K released, it was a high end CPU (whatever Extreme series was the enthusiast level chip) todays standards, it would be an entry level CPU, like a modern i3 or something :P
3:24 I got mine 4300 point in cinebenchR23 clocked to 4.5Ghz w/ boost clock at 1.31v, with HWinfo sensors. It caught up with my 5700XT quite well. GPU utilisation hit 95-99% for many games. Still a mid range pc at least for this year😂 I tried upping it to 4.6 & 4.7Ghz but it takes the voltage from 1.31v to 1.35-1.4v temp is 80C limited by IHS. Silicon is also unstable maybe bc i have high performance DDR3 ram. Overall it’s not a flatline clock speed or good temp. I know why your CR23 is only 3100. Your HWinfo chart will show that the voltage and clock speed it’s fluctuating. You need to clock down your cpu and lower voltage
My cousin has a 3770K, OC @4.7GHz, paired with an MSI Ventus GTX 1660 Super. Overclocking fixes the bottlenecks the cpu creates which impacts gpu performance.
I have been using a Dell XPS8700 with an i7-4790, a GTX-1050 video card with 4gb, 20gb RAM and Win 10 for 5-6 years. It's a wonderful setup. I have not touched it inside for almost two years. I does everything I could ever want. It is fast and bulletproof.
2024, still gaming with intel i7 3700k @ 5.0GHz, the OC mode on this CPU is really insane. MOBO is msi z77a-g45 gaming, it's an old ass MOBO if u ask me xD
I've spent a lot of time trying to get maximum of my 3770k. My experience: 1. Need a good motherboard with pci-e 3.0 z77 chipset and quality VRM with excellent heatsink. It will let you to overclock whole system not just cpu and get stability on overclocked rig. 2. You'll get huge improvement if you use ddr-3 2400Mhz instead baseline ddr-3 1600 or 1866. It's one of the major improvement point to max out. 3. Good cooler. I use Noctua D-14. It keeps temps at 60 and below. 4. If you brave enough & understand what you are doing.. you can flash modified bios (or modify it yourself) for nvme boot support. With all these steps you can make 3770k SING on your rig and skyrocket your perfomance.
can you kindly elaborate on your lines 2 and 4. How much improvement in terms of fps on average we're talking about getting higher clock rams? Also, Do you need some sort of adaptor to accommodate nvme , also from what I understand, it maxes out with SATA speed not an actual m.2 speed. to add to that, What do you think is the most practical gpu one can use to maximize this cpu's performance before it gets bottlenecked i.e. get diminishing returns without unnecessary spending more for less to no improvement ?cheers
@@Gogies777 1. If we count from stock (3.5-cpu, 1600-ram) we can get boost from 10-ish to 20-ish fps, sometimes even 23-25, depends on specific game. But max fps is not the point you should care. Comfort gameplay is not about max fps. Comfort gameplay is about minimum fps, sudden fps drops, freezers, stutters, crazy frame time [not frame rate], sudden input lags etc. Playing 45-52 fps with smooth flat frame time graph, without stutters and input lags is so much more comfortable than 60-75 fps with crazy frame drop and rising, hysteric frame time graph and lags. So you may spend some time in game settings, turning on and off some settings, testing, trying to find sweet spot for most comfortable gaming.
@@Gogies777 2. Yes, You'll need an adaptor nvme --> pci-e. 4 lanes will be enough for PCI-e 3.0. 3. If you use m.2 sata then it will be sata speeds, if you use nvme then it will be nvme speed (not top nvme speeds, you'll ned more lanes and PCI-e 4.0 to get it. but it will be much faster sata speeds. thats the whole point of nvme protocol - to get rid of sata controller)
@@Gogies777 3. I believe 2060 is the best option to pair with 3770K in slight overclocked version 4.2-4.3Ghz. Radeon is definitely not the best option to pair, 20-ish fps lower for same price, i think it's a driver issue.
@@Gogies777 Now some theory. There is a chain that determines quality of your gameplay. HDD(game files,scrips,textures)RAMCPU Imagine you have a game (or an app) which uses 1 thread. Game depends on 1 core speed and other 7 do nothing. In this scenario the only thing you care is Ghz on this core, cause 1333Mhz or 1600Mgz RAM is more than enough to provide data fore 1 thread. So you just overclock core frequency multiplier. Memory controller is more than enough and don’t forget that whole L3 cache is provided just for 1 core and 1 thread. Thats what users did… in 2011-2012. But 10 years passed and modern games use many cores and many threads of your CPU. For this scenario memory is crucial point. And even 1600 Mhz RAM is not enough. Why? The CPU works on sound, physics, animation, let’s say it handles the game engine. It forwards the primitives, set of polygons to GPU, so called draw calls. The more bits per second it can operate, the more polygon sets it can provide to GPU, the more frames will be prepared for GPU to draw (now we are not discussing whether the GPU will be able to cope with this data, thats responsibility of GPU not CPU). But we must understand that CPU needs DATA for preparing frames, which the app (game) tries to load beforehand from HDD to RAM. Then smart CPU tries to save most frequently used data in its L2 and L3 cache to increase the speed of processing. Now the games use all treads and L3 cache is unable to handle increased load. As a result -> cores go to RAM more frequently for DATA, while -> if RAM don’t have needed DATA it goes to HDD more frequently. HDD is the slowest point in this chain. We can partially fix this using SSD instead of HDD. But it doesn’t solve our problem completely, cause even fast SSD is not fast enough and its speed much worse than even low end DDR3 RAM. Thats why gamers see freezers and stutters. When whole chain (memory subsystem bandwidth) is not able to provide enough DATA to all threads .. you get so called “corn overclocking” when CPU have nothing to process due to absence of DATA.
I also use to cpu. It plays decently with most games on 1080 even on stock settings or using auto tune. But when I use it for Music/Video production it definitely feels its age. Few vst and tracks on ableton will make it stumble and had to deactivate tracks or limit vsts. However I'd like to keep this rig and just upgrade my current gpu to rtx 2060 or 3060. Also, I wonder how much performance will I get from this if I ever de lid it and OC is to like 4.5 ghz along with an AIO.
I run a i7 NOT overclocked, with an RX 580 8gb DDR6, and 32gb of Ram. Budget as hell but man it halls ass anyway. Very little bottleneck with the RX580
@@kigasdj2 I can get to 4.8 with a manual 1.3 solid vcore and compensate for vdroop, but it seems like if I let it downclock or change voltages it will be unstable. I don't want to force a 24/7 high voltage overclock, and it seems like I'm stuck at 4.5-4.6 with it still being able to step down speed and voltage.
@@dropinbiking92 it does not really matters much 4.5, 4.6 or 4.7. Its old cpu and gains a minimal at this point. I pushed to 4.7hhz because it is max frequency my MB can handle, so I just running my system to its limits.
Is the CAD software particularly old? By 9th Gen i7 you mean i7-9700(k)? It's massively faster in IPC and multithread so you should see good performance improvements in all cases, however everyday use you may not see much change.
cpus stopped getting faster 10 years ago. The only way they can entice people to upgrade and soak the costs of New MB + CPU + RAM + TIME + Installation etc. Vs a simply new GPU swap. They choice was clear keep the quad add only GPU. Some games are using more than 4 cores but not that many and even those are still playable on the old quads. Im still running old xeon hex cores in 2023 and they still work fine with GTX 1080, 3060ti and 4070 gpus. Even cyberpunk 64 -110 fps ultra settings. Now I have 3 gaming systems for buddies to use in LAN play.
Not entirely true. Today one can buy one at 5ghz out of the box. The big difference is the added speed hasn't increased performance overall all that much.
unique? oh boy ... that single line made my day ... xD and because OC? well it better be... it would need every single squeeze of OC to be competitive for games or anything else ;) well i will not complain, i got four i7 3770 and one i5 3570 for free (oc is not an issue ) will be using them in office SFF like the Elite 8300 and Pro 6300 on a Q77 Express to make rigs for my friends kid for homework and light gaming (GPU also recycled from a bunch of free Quadro T600 4gb )... could be worse as first rig ahah still liked that vid ;)
@@hardwiredreview technical city is a cool website with accurate benchmark ps go to userbenchmark then put ryzen vs i5 2gen or 3rd Gen and read the verdict lol they'll say intel is better or they'll say it's not worth it
You didnt over clock in bios I overclocked the snot out of my i7 3770 non k chip to 4.2 ghz with a cinebench score of 4.062 it works realy good still to this date so i havnt needed to upgrade yet i run it with a radeon rx 6600 and its realy good there isnt not too much of a bottleneck couse the overclocking
Got the same clock speed. Hardly had to touch the voltage either. Served me well since 2014, now I'm upgrading to the 7800x3D as it's not sufficient for modern GPUs anymore :(
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0:00 Intro
0:43 Specs
1:45 Gaming benchmark (no GPU)
2:27 Gaming benchmark (GPU)
3:07 Cinebench benchmark
3:52 Comparison to modern CPU
4:56 Overclocked benchmarking
5:58 Why I bought this
7:00 Outro
With MSI Z77A GD55 Clocked at 6.3ghz
Still running mine, bought fresh in 2012. It's been OCed to 4,5 GHz during all this time. Paired now with an RTX 3060 12GB and 32 GB 1866 MHz DDR3. This thing is still able to run the latest AAA games in 1080p ultra @ 80 to 95~100 fps. A beast !
What temps you run? I feel like mine runs too hot… I literally just picked up some paste and gonna swap out the stock cooler.
@@APinTheAK You may need to delid it and replace the factory applied thermal paste. It will have dried out.
With MSI Z77A GD55 Clocked at 6.3ghz
With MSI Z77A GD55 Clocked at 6.3ghz
With MSI Z77A GD55 Clocked at 6.3ghz
I’m still gaming in 2022 with a 3770k. It’s a beast.
Can give best gameplay
Get on MY level. Gaming in 2023 with 3770k OC @4.4GHZ AND the integrated graphics HD4000 OC @1500mhz (pulled 30W max, tripled from stock 10W, holy cow)
Dirt 3, solid 60fps, 1600x900
Dirt Rally, 55fps, 720p
EU Truck sim 2, 50fps, 1080p
Portal 2, Half-life 2, max settings, 60fps.
Same i can play gta v sp no lag
I'm still on a 3470, good enough for fortntie between 80-200 fps 1080p low.
@@mrdzin1209 why the hell would you use the iGPU? Get any GPU from the last 5 years and it would be much better.
Still using i7-3770K mate... and watching this video in 2024! I did upgrade the GPU once in 2017. It's been 12 years for me with this processor and it's a rock-solid performer. Only now I am looking to do a new build using the latest i5-14600K after all these years. For me, it was the CPU stability that made me kept going with it.
I'm finally retiring mine. Been running it since it's launch 12 years ago. It was a fantastic CPU, that I chose specifically because it seemed like the best option for longevity and capability at the time. Did it ever prove me correct. My system was an i7 3770k, 16gb ram, and a GTX 770 4gb. It was capable of running modern titles for the most part all the way up to 2019. From 2020-2023 I still used it to run RTS and strategy games. Sadly most new RTS titles are now beyond that builds capability. It has given me 12 good years as my daily driver. Been with me through 6 different homes and played games and surfed the internet for more hours then I could possibly count. She's served me well, so it's time to retire her from my service and move her on to someone else.
So I built a new one and set out to clean the old one up and sell it. In the interest of keeping costs down, with my new build. I chose the Ryzen 5 7600 6 core CPU. It gave me a cheaper route into the new AM5 boards, while allowing me to upgrade to a better 8 or 12 core AM5 later down the line when 6 cores is no longer enough. I paired it with 32gb ddr5 ram, and a RX 6750xt. So far the CPU and gpu combo is doing fantastic in games. I'm getting 60fps ultra settings on my 60hz 1440p monitor without any issues.
I see many people pairing more modern GPU's like a RX6600 or RTX 3050's with the old I7 3770k for far better performance then my old GTX 770 4gb was capable of. Hopefully I can find someone to sell it too who will appreciate the build, and maybe breath some new life into it by adding a better GPU. As it stands without that upgrade my old build won't be capable of modern gaming. I think the old i7 3770k has a couple good years left in it, for retro or budget gaming. But it's quickly coming up on the end of it's usefulness in modern games even if paired with a decent 1080p GPU.
Good word of advice. Don't ever buy a case that has a rubberized coating on the plastic. My Cooler Master Storm Trooper case I used on my old build 12 years ago. Had all of it's rubberized coating degrade and turn into a giant sticky mess that would rub off on or stick to your hands. I spent 14hrs with rags and rubbing alcohol getting it all off and the system clean enough to sell. Cleaning it off was extremely hard and took way longer then I had anticipated. Never again will I buy a case with that coating.
I would have bought the 3770K off your hands if I was living in your vicinity.
Using this cpu with a 1660 Super and man the performance is just crazy.
Why not with a better gpu a 3060ti
@@ztvztv1 its going bottleneck for sure the balance is better
@@tuanatvu6626 will it bottleneck the Gtx 1660 TI?
@@nikboll4241 i think gtx1050 to 1600 series are okay very powerful and budget-saving, you can actually max perform the 3770k
@@tuanatvu6626 K thanks for the info
im still rocking the i7-3770k, its a damn workhorse. can still play 2023 AAA at 1080p mostly staying at 60fps paired with a 1070 and 32gb of 2400MHz ram and some SSDs
I Just dusted off my 10 year old Build containing this CPU 32gb Ram ddr3, and slapped a 3090ti in there, and was shocked how well it worked. I mainly use it as a GPU Render Node.
I just picked up 3770k for 70 Aud (aprox 50 usd) for that price and considering that i already have the compatible motherboard and ram it will be a good office/study pc.
Yeah it's a great CPU for its age!
Just got one for about the same in USA on an EBay auction.
@@hardwiredreviewi really wonder if the new intel Arc 750 gfx cards would be a good bet for a 3770K build. Or would it bottleneck it? Imean im stock @ like 3.5 Ghz. What you think? Iv 16 GB ram btw.
This is a good video. I have a 3770k on a Z77 xtreme4 from asrock. Sitting at 4.6, 1600mhz ddr3 16gb. I used to have a 3570k @ 5ghz. Just a year ago I found a 3770k for $100 online, it was worth the upgrade. Sucks that I'm looking at an entire mobo ram and cpu upgrade to go with my newer 2070 GPU, but this combo is still kicking ass.
That's awesome, I had no idea so many people still used this CPU! After using it myself and hearing from others, its a beast for it's age. Thanks for watching!
@@hardwiredreview Glad I could shed some input on it. Yeah it's a powerhouse. Honestly even the 3570k, especially at 5ghz, was a weapon. I still have the chip. It's been delidded and lapped, about 6 degrees variance between cores. I may put this 3770k under the knife soon, thermals aren't great considering my Noctua D15 with 3 140mm fans on it.
Don't underestimate older hardware, I'm sure you've seen other channels focusing on older hardware, lots of us still run it. Heck I've still got a socket 775 system running a Pentium e2140 at a 100 % overclock. Yes I took the FSB from 200mhz to 400mhz with a 8x multi. It screams as a KILLER livingroom media PC that does some random gaming with the GTX 240 that's installed.
My 2070 I got bare used with some board damage, fixed it up and found an arctic cooler for it, did a shunt mod and overclocked the shit out of it, holds about 2200mhz on the core and a metric ton on the memory without erroring, and holds dream temperatures. I can't wait to put a PROPER CPU in to really put the card to the test, in real world gaming the CPU taps out LONG LONG LONG before the GPU.
@@dropinbiking92 why not set the dram at 2133 or 2400. if you set it LIKE THAT . overall performance will INCREASE SIGNIFICANTLY
FYI - My Cinebench R23 score with Multi Core is 4315 using i7 3700k @ 4.6GHz. Single core is 919. It was de-lidded with liquid metal between heat spreader and die, and has a 360mm AIO. I can't get it stable above 4.6 -- probably too old or not the right bin or motherboard just can't push it further -- but it's about as good as it gets for a build of this time period. Motherboard is a ASRock Z77 Extreme6, 32GB DDR3 @ (effective) 2400MHz 10-12-12-30-2T.
Mine tops out at 4.7. I got it at 4.5 for stability. Also delidded with Liquid Metal. Temps dropped 10c easy after delid, but I couldn’t get the frequency any higher than my max pre-delid.
I am curious about a few things:
1: that motherboard seems quite OEM/generic i am not aware of any of those who can overclock, let alone have a VRM to handle it.
2: What were the temps at full load/stability testing?
3: What voltage did you use to achieve 5 GHz?
4: Was the CPU delidded or just with stock thermal paste under the IHS? Because those 3770Ks seems to run hot once overclocked at 1.25-1.3V without delidding.
5: Why no testing with and without overclocking?
I am asking this, not only to look for inspiration for my own overclocking tests and benchmarks, but also because i think the video lacks some detail and context that can be crucial to those, who might be interested in overclocking and benchmarking with their own systems.
I still run win7 with this processor and love it LOL, I've had to replace the HD but this PC still works great, I did upgrade the grafix card to a 1660 after 8 years.
ISTR that the popular opinion at the time was that i7-2600k owners didn’t have a lot of reasons to upgrade to the 3770k. That’s probably why there are more Sandy Bridges around, and why they’re proportionally much cheaper than the 3770k (in my experience, anyway)
Could be interesting to compare the two?
Anyway, good luck with the channel, keep up the good work 👍
I did not upgrade my 3770k until 2019!
I got one for around $50 on eBay in an auction.
Paired my i7 3770 with rx 580 8gb sapphire nitro, 16GB hyperX 1866mhz and it run really well , just built this setup like 3 months ago , i do play Fortnite , Naraka : Bladepoint , Genshin Impact , Valorant , GTA 5 , Watch Dogs 2 , Assassins Creed Unity , i dont have any frames problem with this setup and maybe i would upgrade my gpu soon to get more fps xD most of the games i played with high settings and some of them on medium settings. I spent like 282.25 Dollars on this setup and i guess theres no point to build another modern pc because this setup still can handle most of the games that i want to play :) .
Dude I have the same exact build except 32gb (slower) ram. It’s a beauty right?
I remeber when this chip first debuted. It was the chip everyone ran to to measure up against. If it was not at least on par with the 3770k it was considered childs play. Still a beastly chipset into this day. I had it with 2 670's in sli. Those were the days that even the biggest amd processor just couldn't beat this not to even mention the X series of intel.
@Faya_Bits to do what?
i prefer to buy old hardware than dumping to e-waste,recently just bought a k39 sff case for this purpose..h81+i7 4770+16gb 1600mhz all for $150 and thats even cheaper than an i3 12100 alone in my country
as for the gpu,im hodl-ing for a decent 1650 or even wait for 3050 since my portable monitor is capped at 1080p60
I just got a 3770k for my z68 board. And got a Xeon 2680v4 like $20 with a $110 z99 board with ram probably costing about $80. Waiting for it to come in.
Great review. Thank you. I had one of those under my desk that I hardly used after an upgrade, so I gave that old machine to my kid, and he enjoyed playing games on it. Also, he quit using my new one. It worked out well. I stayed out of prison, and he stayed above ground.
just planning on doing this, all i need is a new GPU for E:D
Running this beast at 4.7Ghz 24/7 since 2012 paired with 1070ti for 1080p gaming 💪
1070ti is probably the best possible match for this CPU.. still give you lots of decent gaming for another couple of years I'd say.. but I'd only do that whilst I was saving up for a truly modern system
@@michaeljohn2826 what about bottleneck
@amangamer465 with the 1070, I'm at around 50 fps at high settings for monster hunter world, in fights drops into the 40s, and the cpu is at around 60%usage. So I'd say it's safe to upgrade. You could even get a 3060, and get around that of the 1070ti, plus raytracing. What I'm shooting for tbh.
@@amangamer465this is all stock btw, have never messed with any of those settings. 😊
What cooler are you using?
Great vid!!!! The 3770K is a legend, still using mine with a 3060 and it shreds anything!
I’m thinking of doing the same setup. I have a GTX 680 right now lol, need to upgrade. What’s your CPU clock speed and did you consider the 3050, 3060 TI, or the 3080?
@@maverick7200 Right now im at 4,7 Ghz overclocked, I was going for a 2060 at first, but the seller told me about the 3060ti, great card but it's almost +$100 usd for only 15 fps difference against the 3060, also the model of the 3060ti in the shop was a PALIT, nothing against them but the 3060 I got was a EVGA 3060 XC, the 3080 is too expensive for this recycled setud I made, it runs fantastic with the 3060 but a 3080 would bottleneck like crazy with the 3770k and the ddr3 memories. the investment is higher for a 3080 (new psu, new memories) but If u have the money and think about updating mobo+cpu+rams in the future the 3080 is the best decision. stay away from the 3050, it's a horrible graphics card (it's decent but for the same money u could get the 3060 with the double of perfomance). I made the jump from a 960 gtx and oh man, the difference was day vs night, now almost any modern game runs at 90-165 fps and older games from 2020 or before runs at 165 solid fps with my g-sync display. is a really good investment for saving some old hardware, go for it, the 3060 is what your 3770k needs!
@@maverick7200 the overclock got me around +30 fps in almost any game, it's important to pair your 3770k with a good mobo, I got the ASUS Maximus IV GENE-Z mini atx in aliexpress for this project and it's working really well.
@@abrahamalviarez5870 awesome thank you so much for this insight! Yeah I don’t want to do a complete rebuild right now, I want to still keep using my original setup since 2012, don’t feel like I used it enough lol. Is your CPU liquid cooled?
@@maverick7200 yes! I got the Cougar Aqua 120 for it, it's around 70 usd. It's one of those all in one AIO, just install and forget, it comes with its own liquid and sealed. I did a little mod in the AIO attaching a second fan to it, it have one fan in front of the radiator and one behind, just like those Corsair AIOs, the temps are excellent, at full load it never goes beyond 70C°
I'm not a gamer, but I did a custom build with a 3770K (Gigabyte G1.Sniper M3 mobo, twin Intel 120GB SSDs RAID0) about 12 years ago, and it's still my all-day every-day workhorse! No GPU even, still using the onboard HD4000 graphics. I bought a GPU (R9 270) but I never got around to installing it. LOL! Since then, I have upgraded the SSDs to WD Blue 500GB (RAID0 so reads as a single 1TB drive), I added a 1TB HDD for "offline" storage of old files, and a 2TB HDD for backups. Just in the last 6 months, I've been getting some spontaneous reboots mid-task (1 or 2 a month, no BSODs), so I think my PSU might be nearing end of life. I am self-employed, so reliability is mission-critical, and this beast has NEVER let me down. Not once in 12 years. Peaks at Windows 10, so I'm thinking about upgrading, but honestly it's hard to justify since it's still meeting my needs with room to spare. And, before you go there, I did not over-buy; I future bought. I stand by my investment 100%.
Great video. I'm still using the 3770K as my main CPU today (yes, for ten years now)...I must admit...I'm not a gamer....I do a lot of virtualization though using Virtualbox..funny thing is..when I want to work in Ms Foxpro 2.6 for windows I have to put the vm machines cpu to 30% max otherwise Foxpro crashes because the cpu is too fast....it makes one wonder :-)
This is my CPU since 2014. I am using an Intel Z68 Asus Motherboard. And an MSI GTX 1070 GPU. I play Far Cry 6, Assassin's Creed Valhalla and other games at 1080p 60fps.
About the same time that i had mine.
I don't play games much these days, but I program them - I'm not a pro - and my setup is still fine to run Unity, and program games using the URP pipeline.
If I have any issues it's usually memory related, as I have a relatively paltry 8GB.
Occasionally I do things like video conversion, and the 3770 is great, even now.
I thought it was great when I bought it, but it's certainly passed the test of time.
I had to upgrade every couple of years before I had the 3770.
Just got one for my z68 board. $50
I had an 11 year old build with the i7-3770k that continued to perform and do all the productivity and gaming I asked of it. Things like GPU and the HDD had to be upgraded due to age or dying, but that CPU is still going. Only reason I don’t have it still is because I moved and couldn’t bring it with me.
this is why my 10 year old rig with nothing but SSD and 1070ti improvements since build still works like a champ. its been the longest lived system ive had, always wondered what was responsible for that. it will still play games very well at 1080p for the most part, i dont really care about FPS until they drop low enough for my old eyes to see it. dont play games on the computer much these days now and i plan on keeping this machine in service for another 5 years at least as a plex server and other tasks that need more performance but can simply wait just a bit longer, like video conversion and editing etc. for anything other than gaming i really haven't noticed a performance drop since i put it together, new systems used to wow me big time back in the 90s and 2000's now days im just like well its just another computer... figured they kinda hit the upper end for the time being, i started this build out with 32gb ram and modern prefabs max out at like 16gb. guess i have this processor to thank lol
Was looking for one of these and managed to get one for around 45 dollars second hand. It works perfectly and saves me from having to buy 150 - 200 dollars worth of hardware for an upgrade (modern CPU, which I'll need a new motherboard for and new ram).
Still running this cpu, paired with 16g mem and an msi 3070, although nowadays she is in semi retirement only now being used as a plex server. She has served me well.
Great info! I was to get a pc with i3 10105f with 1660 but now i could only purchase a gpu for my this old beast. Thank you brother for saving my $1099
Yeah one of the best this one! Right now, 2023, my main PC has a 3770k, delided, 4.6ghz, ddr3-2400 cl11, and its holding my vega 64 very well! 😍 It will retire now and I'll send it to the office, it will work much less and with less overclock stress but it was a great journey together 💙
still rocking a i7 3770k at 4.7GHz everyday, paired with a GTX 1660ti :)
Same! Minus the 4.7ghz. Mine seems to run super hot… so I’m afraid to oc it at all. Which would be nice since it’s bottlenecking the 1660…
I love my 3770k. Had it since 2011.
Just started OCing it 2 days ago.
Running on a Biostar z77xe4 ver 5.0
Taiwanese hardware only.
Recently undusted my 10 year old PC with a i7-4770. I was hoping to maybe turn it into a mini workstation. Glad to see that these CPUs still perform well.
I recently bought a 4770K just for fun and to go with a Gigabyte Z87 G1 Sniper that I got for a friendly price. The 4770K will do about 4.7GHz with good temps, and can still game just fine if not exceptionally well. I keep it around as a test bench and for video transcoding with QuickSync since the rest of my rigs are HEDTs that don't have an iGPU. But I might also make it my media server since it works great for tasks like that. Older tech is fun!
My dad uses his pc which had i5 2500k and 8gb 1333 ram and gtx750ti .. I had few extra money and bought the processor for only 80$ and it's giving way much better performance now..He is happy
Love these pc vids man, definitely interesting!
Thanks for checking it out Evan, merry Christmas!
I got a cheap 2013 Dell Optiplex on eBay in 2022 with this chipset, slapped in a 650w PS and a 1660ti and have been sim racing on it with no problems for over a year
I'm running a 3770k running 4.6 at 1.3 v core custom water loop 45c gaming and 70c full load with ASUS sabretooth z77 motherboard, 16g and 6700xt overclocked and i can run any modern game. The new next gen Witcher 3 update with full raytracing and all Ultra+ at 50-55 fps. I'm still not CPU bottlenecked. Great processor
You should try Intel Xeon e3 1240 V2 Ivy Bridge! Cheaper used chips, identical performance vs 3770
Having intel-3770k with 2060 Super. It work like a charm.
Great video man
Thanks Luke, I appreciate it!
I'm using that processor right now and yeah, it's still a beast😩💯
Great video! This video is actually causing me to pull the trigger on a new GPU. I'm in the same boat, built my PC back in 2012 with the 3770k don't want to upgrade the entire system but now that gpus are back on the market I'm going to be getting the RTX 3060ti today! I'm upgrading from the GT 640... Do you think it will be much of an improvement?
Oh man the 3060ti is an insane upgrade! It will blow your old 640 out of the water, it's the GPU I have as well!
@@hardwiredreview haha I was being somewhat facetious when I asked if it will be much of an improvement, I am indeed looking forward to this upgrade... been waiting essentially 2 years....thanks again for the video and to some of the commenters... I will be clicking the checkout button momentarily!
@@thekenmorgan let me know how it went for you! I put a 3090ti in my old build and that thing is now a monster destroying my Mac studio Ultra in GPU tasks.
How bad was your bottleneck? Lol
I've just paired this with the RX580ste 16gb. Absolute fire.
I7-3770k 4.5oc with a RTX 2070 super it’s amazing
I'm still on my ivy bridge, ran a I5 3570k from 2013 up until a couple years ago and bought a 3770k off ebay for less than $100 to get me a couple more years.
I run it at 4.6 with 32 GB of 2400 DDR3 with a rx5700xt GPU.
It will run anything great at 1080p ultra and most things at 1440p high or ultra very well.
Currently using a 3770k overclocked to 4.5 with 32 gigs of 2400mhz ram and an RX 6700XT for graphics. Simply love it, with games like Halo infinite running at 60fps locked on Ultra :)
2 400 MHz DDR 3 ? Omg I didn't know it even existed ! I read many times that past 1 866 MHz, they bacame unstable or gave no significative gains...
@fridaycaliforniaa236 maybe early on, but I noticed a huge change when I got the kit in place of the 1600mhz kit that I had running 1866 :)
I even use it to edit the podcast I run with my friends which has just started doing video, lol
Playing Assassin's Creed Mirage at 1080p 60fps with an MSI RTX 4060 TI 16 GB Gaming X. 32 GB DDR3 RAM. Works great.
Awesome video! I have the exact same acer motherboard (X4620G B75 chipset MB, running a I3 3240), And i'm looking to buy a second handed I7 3770 from the market. But i've got a question on how you overclocked the I7 3770 in your video. I don't believe that a OEM board (ACER) would allow any overclocking or any BCLK options in the bios. Did you use another Z77 motherboard that allows overclocking? Or did you flashed a custom bios to bypass the OEM Acer motherboard
Or does the OEM ACER motherboard already has a overclocking feature built-in?
- I'm buying the I7 with the (K) that allows OC multiplier changes, I'm worried that i won't be able to overclock on my acer mb.
If it's not overclockable i'll go with a regular I7 3770 (without the K) because i already have a 1155 motherboard.
- But i would rather go buy a new motherboard with I5 10400 which will be better in every aspect of the I7 3770.
Thank you for reading :)
Unfortunately the motherboard in this video does not support overclocking, but thanks for watching!
@@hardwiredreview Thank you for confirming it! On your next video you should try to get your hands on a e3 1270. The xeon E3 1270 is like a I7 3770 alternative for half the price of the I7.
@@cranegamingtv8769can the E3 be overclocked?
@cranegamingtv8769 It's the same chip with the iGPU disabled.
Don't forget that the i3 10100F, like any processor marked with the "F" at the end does not have an integrated GPU in the chipset and requires a dedicated graphics card. Why would this be important you ask? Without an option to opt for integrated graphics one could not run virtualization software, should you want to.
Just upgraded my i5 3470 to i7 3770 for 30 bucks. It seems worth it.
This exact i7 3770K i still have at present! Coupled with even older EVGA GTX 770 that served me many years! The graphics card just died. So now im using intels iGPU to power the HDMI ports for my Philips GSync 144hz. Im mostly gaming at TV at present so its PS4 Pro. The good thing bout the console is that its still working, while graphics cards for pc dies after few years. So next up ill spend my money on PS5 Pro instead. And just keep pc for music production, 3D softwares or other.
Pair this CPU with a GTX 1080 and you´ll be astounded not only by what games you can play but also under what settings they´ll run. Bargain!
At 1:22 you said “you can get a full gigahertz over clock (3.5 base to 4.5) witches more than you can get from any modern chip”
can’t the I9-10900k overclock from a base of 3,7 ghz to 5.2 ghz?
Yeah, what I meant to say is for the price, you can't get a CPU that can overclock this far. Also this CPU has the potential to boost to over 5Ghz as well.
Ivy Bridge isnt worth buying anymore since most latest titles need a minimum of AVX 2.0, which it lacks
If you still want a cheaper option, the Haswell is the best option since it's got AVX 2.0
The i7 3770K will be excellent, but already having an air-cooled i5 2500K 3.3GHz @4.8GHz with Noctua on the Z68 chipset, I don't think it's worth switching to an i7. Given the well-known overclocking limit of Ivy-Bridge compared to the Sandy -Bridge, I find it practically useless to incur an expense to have a truly negligible increase in performance without managing to increase the longevity of a machine that still today, miraculously and worthily, does its dirty work.
In my case I could switch to i7 3770K, double the RAM (from 16 to 32GB DDR3 1600MHz) and change my GTX 1080 Ti for a newer video card. But is it really worth it? I would spend a lot of money to be trapped in a system that is and still remains old. Maybe it would be better to keep squeezing this machine until the titles are unplayable.
If you can find an I7 3770k for under $50 it would probably be worth it. But finding one for a reasonable price isn't easy. I was just in the same boat you were. I was two GPU generations behind what you had, using a gtx 770 4gb. It paired with the i7 3770k was no longer capable of playing new releases. So after doing some research I opted instead of an upgrade, to just do a whole new build. Glad I did, I'm now having no issues getting 60+fps in games at ultra settings 1440p
Do a budget Streaming setup please
Ooh, that could be interesting...
@@hardwiredreview yea
I've got a bit of a niche usage case for this cpu. I've had a 3570k OC'd to 4.4ghz for the past 10 years, and I would like to upgrade but I am tight on cash since I am taking a trip to Peru and going to a large concert festival soon. I have this paired with a 5700XT GPU and 16GB of DDR3 ram at 2000mhz. Since the 3570k doesn't have hyperthreading, I cannot stream my favorite game Smite on twitch without dropping in game frames. Early next year, I am hoping to completely upgrade my pc from the ground up, but do you think the 3770k has the headroom for livestreaming? Just looking to get another 6 months-1 year out of my current platform since money is tight and I can snag this for 68USD or less. Thanks for the video, subbed!
Depending on how graphically demanding the game is, I would say the 3770K would do a decent job paired with that GPU. Thanks for watching!
In other words, try imagining your base ps4 still running games today at a good fps by simply dropping another 200~ dollars or less on it (1660 super). Or if you were an average gamer and happened to have built a 3770k system on a budget a few years ago, you're still getting a heck of a deal for the money you spent.
Very thorough and entertaining content 👍🏼
I have seen a comparison in framerates with a 4090. This processor gives you only around 25 to 33 percent lower framerates with a 4090 than the newest one. And you get it for 80€ on ebay. And if it burns you´ll get a new one for 70. They JUST WORK for modern games. I have one. Combined it with a RX 7600 today. The witcher 3 next gen update runs on RAYTRACING ULTRA ( which is the highest settings) with 35 fps. without raytracing on everything ULTRA+ i have around 60fps on average. ( Less in towns, more in free spaces ). RDR2 runs with 70!!! fps on everything ULTRA. Even without FSR2. And shadow of mordor with 126fps. On 1080p of course. But who the heck needs 4k on a pc monitor, which is normally maximum 28"? Everything looks far too sharp and artificial in 4k unless you use a 55" TV or bigger.
hope my i7 6700k will last for at least 5 more years!
That is a good cpu.. quite capable even in modern settings
I’m sure it will.
I would not recommend quoting userbenchmark. It is an unreliable source. Use UL CPUMark/3DMark instead.
I bought the cpu in early 2013 and still using it with a rocking Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 OC xD only thing i upgraded in last 10 years was my hardrive to ssd and win7->win10 still loving my first ever build pc
Technically when the 3770K released, it was a high end CPU (whatever Extreme series was the enthusiast level chip)
todays standards, it would be an entry level CPU, like a modern i3 or something :P
Buying one to upgrade my PC for now since my i5 3570 is struggling pretty hard
3:24 I got mine 4300 point in cinebenchR23 clocked to 4.5Ghz w/ boost clock at 1.31v, with HWinfo sensors. It caught up with my 5700XT quite well. GPU utilisation hit 95-99% for many games. Still a mid range pc at least for this year😂
I tried upping it to 4.6 & 4.7Ghz but it takes the voltage from 1.31v to 1.35-1.4v temp is 80C limited by IHS. Silicon is also unstable maybe bc i have high performance DDR3 ram. Overall it’s not a flatline clock speed or good temp. I know why your CR23 is only 3100. Your HWinfo chart will show that the voltage and clock speed it’s fluctuating. You need to clock down your cpu and lower voltage
My cousin has a 3770K, OC @4.7GHz, paired with an MSI Ventus GTX 1660 Super. Overclocking fixes the bottlenecks the cpu creates which impacts gpu performance.
I have been using a Dell XPS8700 with an i7-4790, a GTX-1050 video card with 4gb, 20gb RAM and Win 10 for 5-6 years. It's a wonderful setup. I have not touched it inside for almost two years. I does everything I could ever want. It is fast and bulletproof.
2024, still gaming with intel i7 3700k @ 5.0GHz, the OC mode on this CPU is really insane. MOBO is msi z77a-g45 gaming, it's an old ass MOBO if u ask me xD
Still use my old 3770k from 2012, 16GB pared with a RTX2060
I’m about to upgrade my 2600k to this, only so I can utilize PCIE 3.0 on the 6600 XT
I've spent a lot of time trying to get maximum of my 3770k. My experience:
1. Need a good motherboard with pci-e 3.0 z77 chipset and quality VRM with excellent heatsink. It will let you to overclock whole system not just cpu and get stability on overclocked rig.
2. You'll get huge improvement if you use ddr-3 2400Mhz instead baseline ddr-3 1600 or 1866. It's one of the major improvement point to max out.
3. Good cooler. I use Noctua D-14. It keeps temps at 60 and below.
4. If you brave enough & understand what you are doing.. you can flash modified bios (or modify it yourself) for nvme boot support.
With all these steps you can make 3770k SING on your rig and skyrocket your perfomance.
can you kindly elaborate on your lines 2 and 4. How much improvement in terms of fps on average we're talking about getting higher clock rams? Also, Do you need some sort of adaptor to accommodate nvme , also from what I understand, it maxes out with SATA speed not an actual m.2 speed.
to add to that, What do you think is the most practical gpu one can use to maximize this cpu's performance before it gets bottlenecked i.e. get diminishing returns without unnecessary spending more for less to no improvement ?cheers
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1. If we count from stock (3.5-cpu, 1600-ram) we can get boost from 10-ish to 20-ish fps, sometimes even 23-25, depends on specific game. But max fps is not the point you should care. Comfort gameplay is not about max fps. Comfort gameplay is about minimum fps, sudden fps drops, freezers, stutters, crazy frame time [not frame rate], sudden input lags etc. Playing 45-52 fps with smooth flat frame time graph, without stutters and input lags is so much more comfortable than 60-75 fps with crazy frame drop and rising, hysteric frame time graph and lags. So you may spend some time in game settings, turning on and off some settings, testing, trying to find sweet spot for most comfortable gaming.
@@Gogies777
2. Yes, You'll need an adaptor nvme --> pci-e. 4 lanes will be enough for PCI-e 3.0.
3. If you use m.2 sata then it will be sata speeds, if you use nvme then it will be nvme speed (not top nvme speeds, you'll ned more lanes and PCI-e 4.0 to get it. but it will be much faster sata speeds. thats the whole point of nvme protocol - to get rid of sata controller)
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3. I believe 2060 is the best option to pair with 3770K in slight overclocked version 4.2-4.3Ghz. Radeon is definitely not the best option to pair, 20-ish fps lower for same price, i think it's a driver issue.
@@Gogies777
Now some theory.
There is a chain that determines quality of your gameplay.
HDD(game files,scrips,textures)RAMCPU
Imagine you have a game (or an app) which uses 1 thread.
Game depends on 1 core speed and other 7 do nothing.
In this scenario the only thing you care is Ghz on this core, cause 1333Mhz or 1600Mgz RAM is more than enough to provide data fore 1 thread. So you just overclock core frequency multiplier. Memory controller is more than enough and don’t forget that whole L3 cache is provided just for 1 core and 1 thread.
Thats what users did… in 2011-2012.
But 10 years passed and modern games use many cores and many threads of your CPU. For this scenario memory is crucial point. And even 1600 Mhz RAM is not enough. Why?
The CPU works on sound, physics, animation, let’s say it handles the game engine. It forwards the primitives, set of polygons to GPU, so called draw calls. The more bits per second it can operate, the more polygon sets it can provide to GPU, the more frames will be prepared for GPU to draw (now we are not discussing whether the GPU will be able to cope with this data, thats responsibility of GPU not CPU).
But we must understand that CPU needs DATA for preparing frames, which the app (game) tries to load beforehand from HDD to RAM. Then smart CPU tries to save most frequently used data in its L2 and L3 cache to increase the speed of processing.
Now the games use all treads and L3 cache is unable to handle increased load. As a result -> cores go to RAM more frequently for DATA, while -> if RAM don’t have needed DATA it goes to HDD more frequently. HDD is the slowest point in this chain. We can partially fix this using SSD instead of HDD. But it doesn’t solve our problem completely, cause even fast SSD is not fast enough and its speed much worse than even low end DDR3 RAM. Thats why gamers see freezers and stutters.
When whole chain (memory subsystem bandwidth) is not able to provide enough DATA to all threads .. you get so called “corn overclocking” when CPU have nothing to process due to absence of DATA.
your vids get me up in the morning
You get me up in the morning
His intro is my alarm clock
I also use to cpu. It plays decently with most games on 1080 even on stock settings or using auto tune. But when I use it for Music/Video production it definitely feels its age. Few vst and tracks on ableton will make it stumble and had to deactivate tracks or limit vsts. However I'd like to keep this rig and just upgrade my current gpu to rtx 2060 or 3060. Also, I wonder how much performance will I get from this if I ever de lid it and OC is to like 4.5 ghz along with an AIO.
Owner since 2012, great cpu for video editing. I’m forced to upgrade because it cant run 4k 60fps timeline smoothly. Upgrading to i9 12900k.
I run a i7 NOT overclocked, with an RX 580 8gb DDR6, and 32gb of Ram. Budget as hell but man it halls ass anyway. Very little bottleneck with the RX580
Still running it overclocked to 4.7ghz, and probably could easely run on 5ghz, if my motherboard could sustain it :)
What voltage? I'm still trying to push my chip on an asrock z77
@@dropinbiking92 voltage is very low, probably the minimum needed to run on 4.7ghz. So it is on 1.288v, going below that would be unstable
@@kigasdj2 I can get to 4.8 with a manual 1.3 solid vcore and compensate for vdroop, but it seems like if I let it downclock or change voltages it will be unstable. I don't want to force a 24/7 high voltage overclock, and it seems like I'm stuck at 4.5-4.6 with it still being able to step down speed and voltage.
@@dropinbiking92 it does not really matters much 4.5, 4.6 or 4.7. Its old cpu and gains a minimal at this point. I pushed to 4.7hhz because it is max frequency my MB can handle, so I just running my system to its limits.
How well does this pair with a gtx 1050 TI GPU? Good for gaming? Valorant..tekken 8 etc
Still having a System running one of these, recently upgraded to Windows 10.
It is a backup, but it runs fine.
I have this on my desktop from 2013. Every CAD program I use runs at least 3x as fast as my "modern" 9th Gen i7.
Is the CAD software particularly old? By 9th Gen i7 you mean i7-9700(k)? It's massively faster in IPC and multithread so you should see good performance improvements in all cases, however everyday use you may not see much change.
Do you think is it worth upgrade from i5 2500 to this cpu in terms of playing mid range gaming. My gpu is gtx 970 oc?
Yeah, I would say so .You will be getting a decent jump in performance for not a lot of money and I think this would pair great with the 970.
1:15 What's heavily behind though is your voice track compared with your video track on your edition software timeline when you produced this video xD
Not sure what you mean, the audio is in sync for me
@@hardwiredreview it's off by one of two frames. Face is late compared to the sound track. Best regards
I have an AMD 4100 FX black edition unlocked multipliers
Original clock speed 3.6 GHZ
it's now stable at 4.6 GHZ
cpus stopped getting faster 10 years ago. The only way they can entice people to upgrade and soak the costs of New MB + CPU + RAM + TIME + Installation etc. Vs a simply new GPU swap. They choice was clear keep the quad add only GPU. Some games are using more than 4 cores but not that many and even those are still playable on the old quads. Im still running old xeon hex cores in 2023 and they still work fine with GTX 1080, 3060ti and 4070 gpus. Even cyberpunk 64 -110 fps ultra settings. Now I have 3 gaming systems for buddies to use in LAN play.
Not entirely true. Today one can buy one at 5ghz out of the box. The big difference is the added speed hasn't increased performance overall all that much.
this is now available for 4000 rupees instead of 84000 rupees on amazon
It's my server/router CPU and it's more than enough.
Hows a 2012 CPU so good? Was it ahead of its time or is the CPU market a fraud that barely evolves within the years
Despues de todo parece mas rentable comprar el i3-10100F por sus mejoras
I still rocks this thing , it's will run damnnnewr anything at 1440 paired with an amd 6600xt
Ya this CPU paired with a rtx is a monster. Its no thread ripper but it has plenty of muscle.
I really love your 200 dollar xbox video
Thank you!
unique? oh boy ... that single line made my day ... xD and because OC? well it better be... it would need every single squeeze of OC to be competitive for games or anything else ;)
well i will not complain, i got four i7 3770 and one i5 3570 for free (oc is not an issue ) will be using them in office SFF like the Elite 8300 and Pro 6300 on a Q77 Express to make rigs for my friends kid for homework and light gaming (GPU also recycled from a bunch of free Quadro T600 4gb )... could be worse as first rig ahah
still liked that vid ;)
my 3770 non k stock does 3693 in cinebench r23 close to 750 in single core .i think you should get a better mobo mine is a gigabyte GA B75M-S
Still what I Got
I know that the question is dumb but
Will rx 580 2048sp ddr5 work on a ddr3 mobo?
$500 2012 overclockable beast
please dont use user benchmark its not accurate and its being played for the benefits of intel
What should I use?
@@hardwiredreview technical city is a cool website with accurate benchmark ps go to userbenchmark then put ryzen vs i5 2gen or 3rd Gen and read the verdict lol they'll say intel is better or they'll say it's not worth it
That was NOT just under 1080p. Why would you have a 4:3 monitor????
because they were popular when this cpu was released
You didnt over clock in bios
I overclocked the snot out of my i7 3770 non k chip to 4.2 ghz with a cinebench score of 4.062 it works realy good still to this date so i havnt needed to upgrade yet i run it with a radeon rx 6600 and its realy good there isnt not too much of a bottleneck couse the overclocking
Got the same clock speed. Hardly had to touch the voltage either.
Served me well since 2014, now I'm upgrading to the 7800x3D as it's not sufficient for modern GPUs anymore :(
What is your GPU?
Got a bad chip, 4.8ghz at 1.5v(!)
Some chips can run this speed with just 1.25v
It's delid so it runs cool