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That’s what I never got. Kap was actually sitting down for the national anthem before all this.
It was Boyer who had a talk with Kap about taking a knee as a compromise. Kap did that because he didn’t want to make it seem like he was disrespecting the military.
Now the right wing crazies have highjacked that kneeling and made it out to be disrespectful to the military and this country which is complete nonsense.
JEFFREY exactly
The issue was that Kaep didnt explain it very well. It was when all the players started doing it together and again they didn't give a very good definition is when people started getting offended.
The players have given a full and very specific explanation on numerous occasions.
Bobby Clark he explained himself very well and clearly everyone just started misquoting him cuz they couldn't say his actual words were wrong. Also taking a knee has always been considered a sign of respect.
Exactly!!! People keep ignoring these facts. A former Green Beret advised Kaepernick that it would be better to kneel to show a sign of reverence. Kaepernick wasn't disrespecting the military. He kneeled at the request of a Green Beret.
Take a trip the the Veterans Hospital and see who REALLY disrespects our Veterans
What about trump disrespecting McCain.... they do not say shit about that
or anywhere there is high rates of homeless people it's sad
Phatt Killa couldn’t have said it better myself. I’m a dentist and everyday I see VA patients who received substandard care from the government. The government would rather pull a tooth than save it.
This is my LITE don’t block the SUN yes if you want terrible treatment
@@whitebelt2905 I would be the last person to say that any care at the VA is very good (I am a vet who used the VA until I was eligible for Medicare) but I will say this - of course you would rather save it because look at the money you can make saving it
Everyone wants to talk about everything but why Colin took a knee.
he didnt initially take a knee. first time he protested he just sat on the bench. pretty classless.
@@JoefromNJ1 Why did he take a knee? Why did he sit?
@@slimschwede5113 he sat because he doesn't have class. his reason for sitting was to protest racial injustice in the US.
Well I dont agree that he doesn't have class but I agree that he was kneeling because of racial injustice (unnecessary murders of people in the US) thank you
@@slimschwede5113 no he kneeled because a marine told him to, did you just comment and not watch the video?
This video needs to be shared everywhere.
Robert Berguer Wow!!! yousa racist whiteboi, JUS STATIN FAX
@@roysears2919 kinda lily you 😹
Alright, so can we now end the “disrespecting the military” debate and focus on what he was actually protesting!!!!!!
Thank You
Connor W
No because most like to deflect...almost the American way
One guy or one group doesn’t speak for the whole military or how they feel. Shut the fuck up.
Rashaun. If u just ignore the struggles others go thru you are a selfish person, he risked everything to raise awareness to what the less fortunate are going thru
How TF can you bring the country back together when it was NEVER TOGETHER.
How sway ?
@not even excluded I agree. Was better with Bush jr as well. Best years were 2009-2012. Post Great Recession era😂
@not even excluded
2008-2016 the country was united against Obama's warmongering.
As a Veteran who has fought in Iraq, and Afghan I don't think it's a disrespect to kneel. And im with them bringing an awareness to what's going on in America. I lost some close battle buddies of mine in the war. Kneeling has never offended me.
James Bass but every military personnel I know of finds it disrespectful
I know way more than you, so let's get that straight. I know at least a 1,000 active and retired. It's not offensive to none of them. We fight for freedom and our country. They have a right to protest.
James Bass ok, now your just lying
James thank you for your service. I agree with you and thank you for being honest.
so you calling a vet a lie, and you never served in the service like him, i thinjk your a lier. You make exuces about it bing disrepectful to the flag when it's not. show some respect to vets, oh thats right he's not your color.
Why can't we all get over the fact that he took a knee, and focus on the actual problem he was protesting? If America made a conscious effort to stop police brutality I'm sure players would stop kneeling.
I know right because the real problem is all the injustice that goes on in the world with racism. Who cares about taking a knee, we need to deal with the most important issue.
Well now they’re doing for clout and Nike deals so I don’t think the effort will change anything
if u wanna have a honest conversation do it but don't disrespect our great military
@@ryandavis9391 DID YOU NOT HEAR WHAT THAT MAN JUST SAID ?
Kap's protest doesnt look so bad now does it??
Still does
samuel moore ...you using “N” word is the reason why BLM! Your ignorance speak volumes! You wonder why people will NOT listen to you anymore!
samuel moore if you think kap kneeled because he got benched that’s cool but everyone else who is kneeling is for racial injustices
We just gonna ignore the fact Steph Curry put a uniform on and picked a front row seat?
vGViking 😭😭😭😭
Lmao I know right??
That’s hilarious 😂
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Lmao
if you were in a black person's shoes and experienced things i have you'd know why this needed to be protested just want equality man that's it.
EJ Johnson GTFO I am black myself and never knee during the flag
Lol don't you know that Kaepernick has never dealt with anything having to do with racism? He's adopted by white parents and never had to go through anything that you are claiming.
Naw not jus black people. It happenes to asians, hispanics, etc. It's not always one sided dude, everyone has to come together.
Rashaun. He’s kneeling for blacks that doesn’t have a voice dumbass, why the fuck is that so hard for you dipshits to understand, so what if he haven’t gone through it, some people have to deal with social injustice throughout there whole entire lives.
EJ Johnson stop being a little bitch . Man up . Not everyone is nice in this damn world
If kneeling is disrespectful, then so is cheering before the singer finishes the national anthem.
Not really, sometime we just get excited.
I find SAS hairline disrespectful as well.
Jeffrey House W
Jeffrey House nigga needs to just shave that shit.
kanimo24 Lol
lmao...lmao...lmao
Jeffrey House lol 😂😂
« They disrespect the military » 80% of em don’t even care yall making too much drama
G Kakaka Baw there’s barely any rasicim for black people nowadays u could make a argument on Muslims and Indians resiving more rasicm
Two kinds of kneeling.....
One to prolong the life of a black man.
The other, to take the life from blackman
The USA flag is for everyone, Americans. And if some aren't treated equally as other Americans, why should we stand? And why are the military being used like pawns anyway? What did other countries do to us? Did they attack us? But we want to be bullies.
cuprofessa you might be a racist if
2 yrs later we have protested world wide. 6/08/2020
I Been Sitting For Years...and will Continue to...Do any of these guys think that the original version of the national anthem was disrespectful or what THAT Flag meant to Black people when it was made?
Kyle Manning I toldly understand fu*k that anthem. But we have came so far understand that flag, to me, just my opinion. We have came so far together, and now brother's and sisters black and white fight to defend our country and that flag is symbolic of that and how far we have came. There was wrong doings under every flag. But no one has came as far as us as American's. We are the new America. But just my opinion, have a great day brother.
Truths
For me personally, that flag and anthem doesn’t mean anything to me as long as these injustices are going on.
The national anthem was i believe originally played bc the US was officially at war. Get rid of the song at sporting events. The song should be for special occasions.
Well, this protest wasn't about him or the military, and the last time I checked, that flag and anthem belonged to ALL Americans, not just the ones in the military. If there are Americans out there who feel that those symbols aren't representing them, then they are well within their right to protest peacefully.
im so glad this REAL AMERICAN came on this show, he just explained tht kaep has the right to protest(the same right he served for fought for to protect)this is what a real american looks like/sounds like, im so glad he said what he said bout racism(some like to act like it doesnt still exist)so this was very very good......wont change anything, but was nice to here tht not all vets or white males are the same(ignorant/shallow/spineless and stupid)i hope and pray tht this reaches the ones who want or will allow themselves to be reached by it............but i do have a question for the ppl who falsely accuse kaep of being anti american, why not call out the nfl for not stopping the sale of food/beer/towels,foam fingers /etc during the anthem or the ppl who buy these things during tht time..........where is the outrage there ????????????........is tht not disrespectful as well?????????........just wondering
kareem pusey Nate Boyer is a fucking disgrace to the uniform.
mason orosco Nah, you are a fucking disgrace to the country
@@masonorosco1090 >Orosco
Pretty ironic statement to say by an illegal immigrant.
@@NuryPPanaligan wow what an idiotic statement. Assuming I'm an illegal cause I have a Mexican last name. Actually I was born in Stockton Ca to a White mother and a Mexican dad. Now here's my statement. There's a civil war and a lot of anti American sentiment in this country and this whole kneeling for the anthem bullshit plays right into that and is just the beginning. I'd like to know how you feel about that Nazi fascist group ANTIFA operating under the guise of social protest and turn to rioting burning our flag and assault people. It's time to pick a side.
And here we are 3 years later, and lot of people are looking at kneeling differently.
Yeah I mean kneeling is a sign of respect.
Sculpin yes it is
People were upset about Colin Kaepernick kneeling saying he was disrespectful. But the confederate flag and statues of people who fought against the union are the real disrespect of the American flag, anthem and military that people are okay with. Hypocrisy for days.
People really get angry about someone standing sitting or taking a crap, while a flag is around? Lol, This country is such a joke
Go somewhere else
Disrespectful to the flag? Has anyone actually read the fucking US Flag Code? Namely, the section about actions that are considered 'disrespectful' to the flag. Kneeling isn't mentioned, but there's a bevy of other shit we let people get away with that is disrespectful to the flag.
Point is, America has always been a hypothetical country and it won't change anytime soon. Remember "all men are created equal" but clearly that wasn't the case in 1776.
@@usa5439 come on you're leaving out some important facts. Like, where does a black man get a name like Anthony Johnson in the year 1600?
I always saw the kneeling as having another significance. In the military when you have something to tell your soldiers (I can speak for the army) you tell them to take a knee. Its short for "gather round I have something important to tell you". If you agree with what Colin is protesting or not its important that people at least listen because we certainly could do a lot more of that, myself included. Its unfortunate that this was used as a political tool to generate support through anger and division by a certain person that will remain nameless.
What about that 3rd verse
Low key facts lol
I think that only black cops should police black neighborhoods. thoughts?
@Christian Hernandez No it wouldn't. Black cops hate lower class blacks even more than white cops.
I love Nate and Colin! I’m so glad they found a compromise and a way to respect each other. We can all learn from them!
The commercialisation of the military by the nfl, just like is happening in this vid, is disrespectful. Kappernik and his protest has nothing to do with the military.
Everyone against Colin Kaepernick acting like they woudn't be bitching still if he found another way to publicy protest and it made headlines
I semi-don't understand... so while he was sitting, only Nate Boyer was offended? Then, after the compromising between sitting and standing, the "politicians" hi-jacked his protest and made it into him disrespecting the military and the flag.
America cares about the mere flag more than it does about the actual people who give their lives .
I'm all for patriotism but why can't you do what you want during the anthem as long as it's not disruptive.
How is kneeling disruptive. A lot of ppl go to the concession stand during the national anthem how is that ok. They have American flags as bikinis, boxers, and thongs that is honorable to the flag?
I like turtles
Marco Sanchez don't we all?
Lmao a lot of people wont get this comment but that was well played!
The REAL stories are alway buried.
Just this past Thursdays i was in a restaurant watching the game .. Not one of the people in the restaurant stood, the same ones claiming players are over paid crybabies thugs n ect... We see homeless people don't help but that person may have once served his/her country
This has 200K views lol. Its the single piece of evidence that proves Colin is respectfully protesting and doesn’t mean harm. Yet not nearly enough people have seen it.
Nate Boyer says it perfectly.
Trump.....hello? Waiting for ur comments about a VETERAN telling colin to kneel............
you will wait a long time for that comment. The veteran was not a minority.
Czarina Vella he was all the other veterans in the back round were not with him they never cheered once 4 the bullshit coming out his mouth
I am sorry I am not sure what you are saying? Are you saying Trump commented on this and no one liked what he had to say? Or are you saying that the vets didn't like what Nate had to say?
@@czarinavella no. I am saying that everyone is ignoring (including the president) that an actual veteran told colin to kneel. And it is mind boggling that the president would call him a son of a bitch and have a crowd cheering behind him when all colin was doing was peacefully showing that he and his people feel disrespected in this country. But the president can say all and do ridiculous things and still get praised.
@@phatflo Go read colins actual quote.
He said he has no pride in America or our flag because our country suppresses black people. Hes a piece of shit.
What I got from this was Colin met him halfway but Nate is still hazy on what exactly Colin was protesting about. I'm glad that they were able to reach a compromise though even if Colin got the rough side of it.
People who hate on kap, seem to praise Mohammed Ali for his protest. Hypocrites 🙄
Yeah, let’s keep focusing on the act rather than the REASON!
That way you don’t have to deal with the issue of police abuse of the black community.
The soldiers are heroes because they make the choice and the sacrifice to go out and fight for our country, and unfortunately sometimes die for our country, but, with all do respect, they CHOOSE to die for our country. I don't think innocent unarmed black civilians choose to get gunned down for our country. Just saying.
Unarmed black civilians lol. What about the blacks who kill each other at an extremely higher rate? Crickets. Zero protests. Almost zero media coverage. But when it's a black vs white thing then EVERYONE talks about it. Why is that? Do you care about blacks dying or do you care about trying to make it a race issue like people always do. Let's be real
c h our job isn’t to protect and serve but I get what you mean
@@usa5439 You're right, let's be real. There are females who disrespect, hurt and/or kill each other. By your logic, we shouldn't make it a gender thing and we shouldn't talk about males disrespecting, hurting, and/or killing females because there are females who do it to each other.
@@WestsideWillie Really?!!!! By c h's logic, when males disrespect, hurt, and/or kill females we shouldn't talk about that or make it a gender issue because females disrespect, hurt, and/or kill each other.
@@terryknight5869
It shouldn't be a gender thing because not all males hurt females, etc. Domestic violence prevention isnt just about males hurting females. Actually females hurt males. Females hurt other females etc. If you only said hey let's stop males vs female violence and didnt ever mention the others then that would be the same as how the media only shows white vs black shootings. It's all media bullshit.
1. it (The song playing at sporting events) was not done to HONOR the military... it was done because of the conditions of the war and the fact we had soooo many troops died (a lot were black with still not equal treatment) and the moral of the country was low. Also, to combat the idea of communism and promote allegiance to USA. 2. Why is no one bringing up the fact that Tebow protested during the anthem for abortion???? It was so beloved that they called it "Tebow-ing" and became a thing even to the point it was in promos and comemrcials
Kaepernick NEVER said, “I’m kneeling because the military doesn’t deserve my respect and it’s a joke. I hate the USA.” He NEVER said that in why he knelt. What he said was, “There’s black people being killed by cops for no reason and unjustly. That’s not right and cops are getting paid leave for killing people. That needs to change.” He knelt to raise awareness on injustice and police brutality on black people. That’s why he did it. 🙁✊🏿✊🏾✊🏽
After seeing this wow people really twisted the kneeing to being bad..... Good thing I seen this video.
Of course Kaepernick took a knee in protest against injustices against people of color and there is discussion about whether or not he did the
right thing, and of course there are people who have a problem with what he did. If Kaepernick were to take a knee for women and females' rights
and protest against inequality and injustices to women and females NOBODY would be complaining then, nobody would have any issue with it
whatsoever. EVERYBODY would praise Kaepernick, definitely these females, period point blank. Nobody would say he was "disrespecting the flag"
then. There would be no arguing or rationalizing or any discussion at all because there would be no reason for it because everybody would be on board. Just saying.
So he protested your way to help your feelings??? He met you half way on HOW he protested but you fumble and mumble through on WHAT Kap protested. foh bruh
I wonder how many stand at home for the National anthem
National anthem is for the military it’s not meant to be on a sporting event so if someone wants to protest or let’s say someone getting the beer during the national anthem do you tell him to have respect and turn around and put his hand on his heart or does he still get his beer and hotdogs people at home watching the event and they start playing the national anthem do you stand up and put their hand on your heart or do you go to the bathroom take a shit before the game
The people who protest the protest don't want to hear it. I disagree that we should recognize the inevitability of racism, and I honor Colin Kapernick for using his visibility as a celebrity to shine a light, to call it out and to say we must do better.
The media outlets made sure to never speak about this on the news. Didn't even hear about this when they went after Kap and basically lynched his character in the media.
colin kapernick isnt protesting the military or the flag...thats what most of yall are ignoring....or thats what youre using to deflect from the main issue he is actually protesting
Kneeling has nothing to do with showing disrespect for the flag, or anything else. The Supreme Court says no one has to stand, so, that's the end of it. What truly is disrespectful. Is men who won't remove their hats when the National Anthem is played.
So this dude told Kaperdick he should kneel instead of sit?!?
Much easier to accept racism when it doesn’t affect you. Seems to me that Kap had Nates back more than Nate has his.
And yet ppl will still hear what they want to hear. This does nothing to change that...
Unfortunately it’s views like Nate’s that keep racism alive. His mantra is that racism will always exist. As a man thinketh so is he.
1) Why would you want to force a person to stand for a song and in the same token claim freedom? That makes no sense.
2) The song is outwardly and blatantly disrespectful to my ancestors and black people in general. Would you require a Jewish person to stamd for Nazi songs and celebratory practices? No. You'd have enough sense to not do some dumb shit like that.
3) Ive been to several NFL stadiums and other sports stadiums and events in general. While its being played thousands of people are sitting, walking around, talking, cussing, arguing, fighting, having sex and no one cared or care now. Now, all of a sudden we want to pretend while ignoring what this is really about.
In my recommendations almost 3 years later. I think it’s awesome that these two men who disagree on a topic can talk things out and make a respectful comprise to how the ultimate goal of unity and equality can be reached
Well this blow up back in his face really comparing kneeling to pray and asking for your girl to marry is not the same as kneeling for a colour issue RESPECT really🤯🤯🤯
How many homeless vets do I see a day?🤔🤔🤔
I don't know how many you see, but in Dallas I see too many.
All vets can go get government assistance from the VA. Theres literally no reason for a vet to be homeless except that they refuse help.
Rest in power George floyd
waiting for will cain to tell the vet where hes wrong
I don’t have a problem with someone kneeling during the anthem, we don’t know the context of their actions and should listen first before being outraged like some SJWs
. I’ll take the taking a knee protest over looting, arson, shooting, stabbing. Even though I may not like it as a patriot, as a patriot I also defend his right to express his concerns lawfully and not hurting anyone the way it should be.
I like the compromise; I will kneel. Kap is a true American hero fighting for truth, justice, and the American way.
Relevant in 2020!
Blessings peace & love to all !!!
On the surface, Nate Boyer sounds like a decent and intelligent guy. However, the fact that he never brings up the matter of WHY Kaepernick was protesting in the first place and he never seems to grasp the sense of urgency and desperation Black people are feeling in this country... well, that says a lot. Don't go around saying you fought for the freedoms of ALL Americans when you can't even acknowledge that police are killing unarmed Black people with impunity. It's shameful! He's just another White guy trying to diminish and silence Black voices. If these White people never bring up the matter of police brutality, they ain't sayin' NOTHIN'.
All them vets behind him,,imagine would. A flag truly heal your feelings,,if they all were in caskets coming from a war,,they was killed in,,,I think if it had a miracle effect,,an prevented the war,in the first place,,an no one was injure or hurt,,came back alive ,,then I'm all for it!!
Its nice to hear everyone's opinion and not to cancel anyone
Wish everyone knew this!
All white people should be like Nate
Came back to this in 2020.... Look how this works now.....
What did he think he had the right to tell Colin how to protest. Ridiculously pathetic.
This doesn't have enough views.
Both sides of this issue have a very distorted and baseless view of Nate Boyer. Most people don't know his name, that he was a green beret, and that he's very patriotic. The truth is much different than what I've heard from people on either side of this... and it's not even necessary. People don't care about facts or content anymore. If something they hear from someone else's mouth serves their purpose, they'll repeat it without hesitation. Knowing anything beyond one's agenda doesn't matter anymore and that is scary. It's not useful for people trying to make a change like Kaepernick or for people who see something wrong with a form of protest they find disrespectful, for that matter. It is useful for people or organizations with the intent to deceive others and undermine their trust for personal gain.
It's interesting, when someone says they're 'hurt' by the protests, I'm much more sympathetic and I'm more willing to take in their point of view and be more flexible in mine. Whereas if you shout that it's disrespectful and call the protesters names I get more entrenched in my stance and get more defensive. He's right in that we need to be able to listen to the other side even if we don't agree with it. We're all Americans in the end.
More people need to see this.
This! West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943), is a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court holding that the First Amendment protects students from being compelled to salute the American flag or say the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools. And it applies to Colin’s right to respectfully protest on his knee.
That way he can give BJ`s better.It`s still his country.
I checked out when Kellerman started talking.
In Asia kneeling is more respectful than standing.
Drew Brees please come and watch this. Rest in Peace George Floyd
1941 the NFL started playing the National Anthem. Playing the national anthem before the start of regular season baseball games became the standard. And with the U.S. in World War II now, the National Football League also included the playing of the anthem before games. It hasn't been 100 years...
What did he not agree with. How do you support something you disagree with?
So a veteran actually told him to kneel wow
You just said it. The National Anthem was played to Honor the Military, So Yes Kaepernick was sitting and Kneeling to dishonor the flag and our Military... did you not say it was played to “Honor our Military” So any protest during the National Anthem is a sign of Disrespect!
Maybe it’s not worth respecting when there so much wrong in which he was proved beyond reasonable doubt in the George Floyd case. At the end of the day we respect veterans because the make sacrifices against regimes that don’t give us these freedoms. The day you start forcing people to stand, is the day you lose complete respect because that is what totalitarian governments do and people with respect and reason don’t really want anything to do with that. It becomes a rally not an act of respect.
Just as the soldier said, kneeling is more of a humble respectful action - so clearly Kap listening to him was a sign of respect to the military
I commented saying that this dude suggested he take a knee.. And someone said well he is not a real soldier so it doesnt count...
87 thumbs down from angry confederates
Angry Patriots. Fuck confederates
stop yelling
If I was Roger Goodell I would stop playing the National Anthem at NFL games
I don't see no video of people burning US military uniforms
So i guess a MF flag is more precious than black lives
Such a boring topic. Come on first take! Let's talk about how LeBron needs help with his current line up. Jordan and Kobe never had this kind of help. No excuses!!!
If you Dont Stand! I Dont Watch! It's all Bullshot! Grow Up.
NOPE. We Stand for the Flag and Kneel for the Cross. No if ands or buts.
Too bad usa never was a Christian nation