I'm 7 hours into this game and I am having a blast. Honestly, it's been years since I played a turn-based RPG that good. The systems are so well thought, nothing is useless or boring. Really a must-play game.
True. I couldn’t even afford to get bored because of the Overdrive system. I have to constantly think about not going into Overheat. And being able to switch party members during combat made me use my brain much more than conventional turn-based RPGs
@@cleverlikem3218 during the first boss after the prologue it gives you a tutorial that explains you will have a full gauge for your ultra move at the start of every boss
I just bought it on Switch and will be playing during the weekend. Loving your head start dear Alex, as usual, you are one of the Goats of RUclips for me :) ❤️
We as a player learn about loot really early and yet I haven't bothered to sell anything. I was starting to get annoyed by the fact that my characters are getting almost 2-shot by trash mobs and do negative damage lol Now I realize why... I'm still wearing the equipment they sell by default in shops like the bokken for sienna lmao That's why I'm here. Thank you for the helpful vid man, appreciate it.
I have genuinely needed a JRPG like this. The market is so damn bloated. And for there now to be such a beautiful game. At such a low price, TURN BASED EVEN?!
yeah this game tries other ideas (or you could say innovate the jrpg abit) which i want to see in new games. pick up a pokemon game it doesnt really different from the older gens (arceus does abit but its too "samey")
Other people keep saying turn based RPGs are dead, and yet we keep seeing both Western and Japanese RPGs with Turn Based Combat every single year! Even Square Enix has doubled down back on it!
@@BacklogBattle True enough that they aren't completely dead. I suppose there just aren't as many as I'd like there to be. I hate that it's slowly becoming more frowned upon for them to be turned based.
Rarely I have played so many turn-based (S)RPGs in a single year. Monochrome Mobius, Pathfinder WotR, Relayer Advanced, Legend of Heroes Kuro no Kiseki, Astria Ascending, Solasta, Atelier Sophie, Triangle Strategy, Lost Eidolons.
Having a blast with this game, didn't know I could lower difficulty lol. Good to know doubt I will though because I'm just loving the challenge through and through
btw, you can equip personal skill in class slot. so classless characters can equip excess active/passive skills that don't have room in personal skill slots.
I look forward to beating this game just to beat it again now that I know what I’m doing lol Thanks for the tips. Wish I had watched videos before playing it for several hours lol
@@cleverlikem3218 I will give you an easy example, many complaint on the plant that gets your whole party's HP to 1. You need to know what you are doing otherwise you are dead, no luck will help you.
@@aaron6493 I did it. after brainstorming about different tactics all day at work I i got home and gave it another go. Now I'm flying around happily in sky armor. Thanks for the advice though. Backlog and you, Aaron, do a good job. Of advising rather than hand holding which is good
Just bought this game today on switch getting Chrono trigger vibes man im lovingnthe game so far im about 2.5 hrs in cant eait for sea of stars as well aw yea thanks for the tips too u blessed ya boi with some knowledge
I had NO IDEA how the SP was working and there doesn't seem to be an in-game "journal" of how battle systems work? So, massive thanks for this video. Seems like for all the systems in the game, you get the dialogue breakdown 1 time and then you're left alone?
Won't spoil what happens in the story, but around the point where you get sky armors, I found that the combat really took a difficulty spike, now this ain't a bad thing, I rarely got a game over before this but now even normal encounters can result in a game over I think it's interesting for an rpg to not have a level system because I never feel overpowered, I might find a strategy that works for a lot of encounters but that strategy normally relies on one of my party members that are far from invincible, 3-5 hits are generally enough to take them down which makes encounters where the enemies have aoe attacks quite challenging
Another thing I didn't realize was the things u unlock for moving across the board has two pages. The second page let's you claim stuff for chains. I had sacred water just waiting there for me. I missed out on leveling up he emblem in Basil cause I didn't realize
If you use them in battle it will lower the Bar into overdrive (move the arrow right) - You have to use the right one though. for example - magic override item when the bar has the symbol for magic, Etc.
There’s a trophy for getting 12 class emblems, so let’s go with that! Each Sky Armor also plays differently depending on their weapon, but it’s technically not considered a class!
Seems very interesting, my question is, by the end of your adventure, will you be able to max out your party, or will there be skills left on the table no matter what you do?
What are the SP points used for? I have a lot and haven't used any. Also i know the stars are used to buy skills but how are they obtained? can i grind to get more?
Why does Victor's Pressure Point do 2 hits, while his Earthen Drum only does 1? It makes the wind attack stronger on earth weak/wind resistant enemies than the earth attack. Is there a point to his earth attack?
I didn't get the "deals" system. Neither how to look what's the vendor is looking for, neither the rewards. I also found a bug on the game, when selling equiped sky armor pieces, you gain the gold, but the piece stay on your inventory for the negotiation time. Basic you can sell it endless times.
Are you able obtain enough Grimoire Shards to learn ALL the skills? If not, is there a way for you to reset? I want to know before I regret some decisions later..
Does AGI effect hit chance as well or just turn order? And are you able to refund your GS at some point in the story or are you locked in once you spend it?
So i have like a 40+chain that i have not claimed. Was wondering if i claim the. Chain can i still continue said chain and get the other rewards latter on or do i need to do it as one big chain?
The chain refers to the continuous adjacent connection between the rewards, not how many rewards you obtain back to back! So feel free to obtain those rewards ASAP!
@@BacklogBattle so the hero things you get and 1 character gets to equip it, what do you do with it? Does it level up? I have the cleric and vampire ones so far. I just got to the castle and the brother king is trying to kill us
It's posible to make characters under level? i'm on a run of 6 hs and i got softlock in a combat with just 2 simple enemies. I mean, I do like 62 hit and the enemies one shot my party. I'm on wygrand mines and in the first fight when you choose the path with the 3 guys, in the first battle entering the mines I simple can't win. They one shot me.
@@BacklogBattle I'll try but I feel like there's something with combat. Like half the battle is trying to take down one enemy out of the 4. By the time I get one down my party is nearly dead. I barely make it out with one party member alive every fight now. Damn snowmen
@@cleverlikem3218 try different combinations of starting party members and if you got a surplus of skills, equip the ones that’ll help encounters in the area. Focusing on one enemy at a time is the right strategy! You can do this!
hope you reconsider, is good sometime to play different styles. Still, this progression make every story fight more challenging instead of just overpower
@@Minorcas13 You can get all skills for everyone if you do all sidequest and missions. So even if you mess up early you can fix it later. No Respec option
Do you not gain levels on this game??? What is this all the different charter stories at the beginning? I hope the whole game is not this kind of game. I like one main story. Do all the characters come together as one team early on???
1. There are no levels or experience points in this game. 2. The character stories are just there to introduce the characters that'll be in the party. 3. Yes, within the first few hours.
Hey i just have a question, how can i earn more SP? I only get a few after battles. Im thinking it will take ages to maxout stuff. Secondly, i dont know if u beat the goons from the guy that you crashed the wedding at but i didnt get any shards from him? Does my game have bugs? Couse i cant get like past level 8, but i wanna unlock new skills tho
You'll earn more SP later! Also, consider what I said about how SP works in the game in the video and it'll start to make sense. You'll have no problems maxing out stuff easily, especially in the mid to late game. Not all boss type enemies drop shards and unfortunately I don't remember if the wedding side quest drops them or if you get it at the completion of the quest itself.
I have healing skills set for use on people that have sky armor but the healing spells don't show up in battle as one of my skills to use. Do you have any idea why that would be?
@@MrJvchef u can spend right away,look at lower right of screen when u are on the set skills menu. You must have enough to level the skill though, can't do it partially
I'm 7 hours into this game and I am having a blast. Honestly, it's been years since I played a turn-based RPG that good. The systems are so well thought, nothing is useless or boring.
Really a must-play game.
Glad you think so! Here’s to more fun times ahead!
True. I couldn’t even afford to get bored because of the Overdrive system. I have to constantly think about not going into Overheat. And being able to switch party members during combat made me use my brain much more than conventional turn-based RPGs
Your Ultra Move bar actually automatically fills up at the start of a boss battle, no grind needed for that preparation
Thanks! Somehow didn’t notice that! Probably because I grinded before the bosses lol
i just got into a fight after using towards the end of a fight and it was not filled up
@cleverlikem3218 its only for boss fights that it auto fills. Standard trash mobs it carries from wherever it was from the last battle
@@cleverlikem3218 during the first boss after the prologue it gives you a tutorial that explains you will have a full gauge for your ultra move at the start of every boss
Beat me too it… it’s always full at the onset of boss fights.
Thank you so much for this! It’s so nice to have something like this. Please continue to cover this game!
Thanks for your support as always!
Thanks dude I am thinking about whether I want to buy the game digitally or wait for a physical release.
@@koxonutboy I’m impatient so I’d much rather play the game today, so digital!
@@BacklogBattle I caved and downloaded it last night haha
I just bought it on Switch and will be playing during the weekend. Loving your head start dear Alex, as usual, you are one of the Goats of RUclips for me :) ❤️
Aww thank you so much! Hope you'll enjoy it this weekend!
Thanks for the clarification on SP. This game could reaaalllly use a glossary
Really would! Or a way to review the tutorials!
Thanks for this, I ended up getting handled without really knowing how deep this game really is! 10 hours in so far, enjoying this so much.
No problem! Glad I could help!
We as a player learn about loot really early and yet I haven't bothered to sell anything. I was starting to get annoyed by the fact that my characters are getting almost 2-shot by trash mobs and do negative damage lol
Now I realize why... I'm still wearing the equipment they sell by default in shops like the bokken for sienna lmao
That's why I'm here. Thank you for the helpful vid man, appreciate it.
came here while contemplating purchasing this game during sale season... instant follow for your concise and engaging explanation!
I have genuinely needed a JRPG like this. The market is so damn bloated. And for there now to be such a beautiful game. At such a low price, TURN BASED EVEN?!
yeah this game tries other ideas (or you could say innovate the jrpg abit) which i want to see in new games. pick up a pokemon game it doesnt really different from the older gens (arceus does abit but its too "samey")
Other people keep saying turn based RPGs are dead, and yet we keep seeing both Western and Japanese RPGs with Turn Based Combat every single year! Even Square Enix has doubled down back on it!
@@BacklogBattle True enough that they aren't completely dead. I suppose there just aren't as many as I'd like there to be. I hate that it's slowly becoming more frowned upon for them to be turned based.
Rarely I have played so many turn-based (S)RPGs in a single year. Monochrome Mobius, Pathfinder WotR, Relayer Advanced, Legend of Heroes Kuro no Kiseki, Astria Ascending, Solasta, Atelier Sophie, Triangle Strategy, Lost Eidolons.
Great video, Alex! Started playing this on a whim, and this video is well-made and an excellent go-to resource.
I just started this game and am loving it so far! Thanks for the helpful tips.
Thanks a lot man ! Been playing for about 5 hours and still had tons of questions about the game. Your video helped answer most of them !
I like the story progression and game mechanics is quite interesting. A must have game to play, really recommended.
Good job, bought this day 1 an started last night. Kinda fire, I like it 😎
Having a blast with this game, didn't know I could lower difficulty lol. Good to know doubt I will though because I'm just loving the challenge through and through
btw, you can equip personal skill in class slot. so classless characters can equip excess active/passive skills that don't have room in personal skill slots.
Yep! I cover that in the video!
Thank you. This guide help me a lot.
This looks interesting, thanks for the video, it's clear and well described. Laughed at your channel name too.
Glad that got a chuckle! Thanks for checking my video out!
I look forward to beating this game just to beat it again now that I know what I’m doing lol
Thanks for the tips. Wish I had watched videos before playing it for several hours lol
Wow, I just started to play and I’m glad I found your video. Informational and concise! Very helpful!! Now I have an idea of what I’m doing lol
Thanks for the video. This is just what I needed to know about the game.
Great work here
Thank you! Cheers!
Wow, thank you so much for the guide. It helps a lot
the combat in this game is SO good!
Yes really good but not for everyone. Some people have been playing JRPGS their whole life by grinding to win, here that doesn't fly.
@@aaron6493 I'm trying to figure out what does fly other than sheer luck
@@cleverlikem3218 On hard luck will not help. You will need to think and try until you win.
@@cleverlikem3218 I will give you an easy example, many complaint on the plant that gets your whole party's HP to 1. You need to know what you are doing otherwise you are dead, no luck will help you.
@@aaron6493 I did it. after brainstorming about different tactics all day at work I i got home and gave it another go. Now I'm flying around happily in sky armor. Thanks for the advice though. Backlog and you, Aaron, do a good job. Of advising rather than hand holding which is good
Good explanation, very detail.
Great break down i loved it
This game is so freaking good.
Fantastic guide. Answered a lot of the questions around abilities and attributes. Keep up the great work! ✊🏾
Thanks a ton! Glad this helped!
Just bought this game today on switch getting Chrono trigger vibes man im lovingnthe game so far im about 2.5 hrs in cant eait for sea of stars as well aw yea thanks for the tips too u blessed ya boi with some knowledge
You're very welcome! Glad to see you're enjoying the game!
tysm for this guide, this helps alot for beginners, love the video very detailed
Very instructive video, thanks
I had NO IDEA how the SP was working and there doesn't seem to be an in-game "journal" of how battle systems work? So, massive thanks for this video. Seems like for all the systems in the game, you get the dialogue breakdown 1 time and then you're left alone?
Yea. The dev knows of it though, but he’s powering through the bugs and fixing them before adding new features.
Enjoying this game so much!!!!
This is a great video, thanks for the intel
Loving this game. Plus all those sweet sweet Trophies.
Thanks for the guide i needed help
This game is near perfection!
about 5hrs in its been great :D
I love this fucking game!
Every game throwing a shashlik enemy at you, has its heart at the right place.
Haha good eye on that!
...I have an SP *POOL* ??? Well, I'm glad I watched this...
Thanks for this video
Great vid, thanks
Useful video! Thanks !
Nice, I’m four hours in. Game is really cool
Won't spoil what happens in the story, but around the point where you get sky armors, I found that the combat really took a difficulty spike, now this ain't a bad thing, I rarely got a game over before this but now even normal encounters can result in a game over
I think it's interesting for an rpg to not have a level system because I never feel overpowered, I might find a strategy that works for a lot of encounters but that strategy normally relies on one of my party members that are far from invincible, 3-5 hits are generally enough to take them down which makes encounters where the enemies have aoe attacks quite challenging
I get to be the first guy. Thanks for this video 😁
Great intel for noobs like me :) thanks!
I love it,and free to play with game pass 🤘🏻
Thank you
Good work m8!
For the OD bar, I pretty much try to bounce back around yellow for a turn just to be always in the safe side lol.
I’d like to see you try this on the boss that messes up the gauge LOL
@@BacklogBattle ohhh I'm not there yet! Great stuff!
Another thing I didn't realize was the things u unlock for moving across the board has two pages. The second page let's you claim stuff for chains. I had sacred water just waiting there for me. I missed out on leveling up he emblem in Basil cause I didn't realize
Sounds like you gotta watch this video again ;)
@@BacklogBattle I have covid, I'll blame it on the brain fog
Great video! It helped a lot! One more thing i don't know. You start game leveling characters and I see there tech points. What are Tech points?
That’s what you use to cast spells and skills! TP
I never noticed the skill type thing and im near endgame... oops lol
DOES chaging the options to make the enemies easier change the ending of the game? some games that is the case.
Not at all!
Do you know if a character still gains SP after a battle if they're dead?
Yes they do!
@@BacklogBattle Very helpful, thank you for your quick reply!
How do you know if something is a physical or a magic attack
can we skip or change the enemy next turn like octopath traveller?
Can someone explain to me how the overdrive items(attack, buff, debuff etc) work? I can't seem to find any guide on this.
If you use them in battle it will lower the Bar into overdrive (move the arrow right) - You have to use the right one though. for example - magic override item when the bar has the symbol for magic, Etc.
What dictates a class skill being maxed out?
Nice video! Can I ask how many classes are there?
There’s a trophy for getting 12 class emblems, so let’s go with that! Each Sky Armor also plays differently depending on their weapon, but it’s technically not considered a class!
Seems very interesting, my question is, by the end of your adventure, will you be able to max out your party, or will there be skills left on the table no matter what you do?
Get them all
if one of ur party died, did they still get SP if they still dead?
Yes!
What are the SP points used for? I have a lot and haven't used any. Also i know the stars are used to buy skills but how are they obtained? can i grind to get more?
The video literally answers all of the questions you just asked
Why does Victor's Pressure Point do 2 hits, while his Earthen Drum only does 1? It makes the wind attack stronger on earth weak/wind resistant enemies than the earth attack. Is there a point to his earth attack?
I didn't get the "deals" system. Neither how to look what's the vendor is looking for, neither the rewards. I also found a bug on the game, when selling equiped sky armor pieces, you gain the gold, but the piece stay on your inventory for the negotiation time. Basic you can sell it endless times.
For deals u need sell loots then the merchant sell u special items
Are you able obtain enough Grimoire Shards to learn ALL the skills?
If not, is there a way for you to reset?
I want to know before I regret some decisions later..
Yes! And no there’s no way to respec
@@BacklogBattle Thanks for the info. Now I can calmy learn skills.
Does AGI effect hit chance as well or just turn order? And are you able to refund your GS at some point in the story or are you locked in once you spend it?
No respec. Also, AGI only affects frequency of turns/turn order!
How do you use the air ship?
What are the blue points with the “!” On the map
What is the gold star with the > in it?
Blue is secondary quest and yellow primary
Question about agility. If you get enough can you act twice before an enemy or is it always 'everyone gets a turn and this is just your turn order'
Agi u can act 2 times before than enemy
Are there enough grimoire shards to unlock every skill?
But how exactly do you know when an attack uses physical or magical damage? Just guessing by the attack description?
Magic attack has yellow icon and say magic
So i have like a 40+chain that i have not claimed. Was wondering if i claim the. Chain can i still continue said chain and get the other rewards latter on or do i need to do it as one big chain?
The chain refers to the continuous adjacent connection between the rewards, not how many rewards you obtain back to back! So feel free to obtain those rewards ASAP!
@@BacklogBattle thanks.
Do you know what the passive Skills do that cause Weakness Damage and additional 0%?
For Example the passive Skill Earthattack
they add the elemnt but dont add extra dmg. if it says additional 15% it means that it also adds 15% to dmg
how long is this game if you are just doing the main story?
About 35-40 hours I’d say
How do you run away on PS4? How do you upgrade the classes your get the hero things?
Press L1 to run! I think you press it twice.
What do you mean by upgrade the classes?
@@BacklogBattle so the hero things you get and 1 character gets to equip it, what do you do with it? Does it level up? I have the cleric and vampire ones so far. I just got to the castle and the brother king is trying to kill us
It's posible to make characters under level? i'm on a run of 6 hs and i got softlock in a combat with just 2 simple enemies. I mean, I do like 62 hit and the enemies one shot my party.
I'm on wygrand mines and in the first fight when you choose the path with the 3 guys, in the first battle entering the mines I simple can't win. They one shot me.
Learn hp and def skills and stats
where are the classes? All i have is Cleric so far. where are these statues at? Im in this snowy area and these snowmen are kicking my ass!! :(
Gotta explore more! Check the Reward board - there’s at least one per explorable area (not a town) I think!
@@BacklogBattle I'll try but I feel like there's something with combat. Like half the battle is trying to take down one enemy out of the 4. By the time I get one down my party is nearly dead. I barely make it out with one party member alive every fight now. Damn snowmen
@@cleverlikem3218 try different combinations of starting party members and if you got a surplus of skills, equip the ones that’ll help encounters in the area. Focusing on one enemy at a time is the right strategy! You can do this!
@@BacklogBattle thanks
10 hrs in, I am sorta enjoying it however it seems a little too complicated for me. I like more the difficulty level of a Zelda game.
Would've preferred just to level up, this progression kinda puts me off on playing it
hope you reconsider, is good sometime to play different styles. Still, this progression make every story fight more challenging instead of just overpower
@@15Jin15 can you respec on the fly and stuff? Cuz I don't want to mess up my skill points and be unable to do anything
@@Minorcas13 You can get all skills for everyone if you do all sidequest and missions. So even if you mess up early you can fix it later. No Respec option
@@15Jin15 then I might give it a shot
Do you not gain levels on this game??? What is this all the different charter stories at the beginning? I hope the whole game is not this kind of game. I like one main story. Do all the characters come together as one team early on???
1. There are no levels or experience points in this game.
2. The character stories are just there to introduce the characters that'll be in the party.
3. Yes, within the first few hours.
@@BacklogBattle AWESOME....thank you for the info,much appreciated!!
There's no tutorial review in the game.
Yep. I heard that it might be patched in later.
@@BacklogBattle No problem. Figuring it out the old fashion way. Thanks for the help, Alex. Luv this game. Patch or no patch. I luv Chained Echoes.
why not a single word about boss battles , bosses have no health bar
Because this isn’t a walkthrough
The crystal system is horrible. I'm in act 3 and have NEVER slotted a single crystal.
U need farm a lot crystals
Hey i just have a question, how can i earn more SP? I only get a few after battles. Im thinking it will take ages to maxout stuff. Secondly, i dont know if u beat the goons from the guy that you crashed the wedding at but i didnt get any shards from him? Does my game have bugs? Couse i cant get like past level 8, but i wanna unlock new skills tho
You'll earn more SP later! Also, consider what I said about how SP works in the game in the video and it'll start to make sense. You'll have no problems maxing out stuff easily, especially in the mid to late game. Not all boss type enemies drop shards and unfortunately I don't remember if the wedding side quest drops them or if you get it at the completion of the quest itself.
I have healing skills set for use on people that have sky armor but the healing spells don't show up in battle as one of my skills to use. Do you have any idea why that would be?
So um, yeah, I had no idea I could spend SP. Haven't leveled up any skills...🫣
Really?! Well, now you do!
I’m still trying to spend my sp…. Does it open up later on?
@@MrJvchef u can spend right away,look at lower right of screen when u are on the set skills menu. You must have enough to level the skill though, can't do it partially