बहुत अच्छा बहुत सुंदर debate अगर इस तरह की मेनस्ट्रीम मीडिया देश में डिबेट करें तो बहुत सारी घटनाएं और फैसलें सही-सही मुकम्मल किए जा सकते हैं नमो बुद़ाय जय भीम जय भारत जय संविधान
This was truly an amazing discussion, way better than the nonsense that we see on most TV news channels other than NDTV. God bless all 4 of you. May this world become a better place because of thoughtful discussions like these. God bless all of us.
श्रीमान आपके द्वारा उठाये मुद्दे प्रसंशनीय है। आईएएस एग्जाम मैं अच्छी समझ विकशित करने हेतु आपके विशषज्ञों के स्वतंत्रता विचार काफी सराहनीय है। जिस तरह की आज कल की मीडिया तटस्थत नही रही। आप एक निष्पक्ष पत्रकारिता की भूमिका निभा रहै है धन्यवाद
बलात्कार और न्यायपालिका की वर्तमान स्थति पर बड़ी बेबाक़ी से विश्लेषण से मैं बहुत प्रभावित हुआ हूँ आपने वर्तमान ग़ैरबराबरी को बखूबी से बहस में समझाया हैं आभारी हूँ। हमारे यहां की कहावत "अमीर की जोरू सबकी दादी , ग़रीब की जोरू सबकी भाभी " को आपने सही सिद्ध कर दिया , कि ग़रीब, दलित को समानता ,स्वतंत्रता और न्याय का कोई अधिकार नहीं रहा हैं। उसका मान सम्मान और स्वाभिमान कोई मायने नहीं रखता। बाबा साहब के संविधान सभा में अंतिम भाषण में कहा था कि "हमें पहला काम यह करना चाहिए कि अपने सामाजिक और आर्थिक लक्ष्यों को प्राप्त करने के लिए निष्ठापूर्वक संवैधानिक उपायों का ही सहारा लेना चाहिए। इसका अर्थ है, हमें क्रांति का खूनी रास्ता छोड़ना होगा। इसका अर्थ है कि हमें सविनय अवज्ञा आंदोलन, असहयोग और सत्याग्रह के तरीके छोड़ने होंगे। जब आर्थिक और सामाजिक लक्ष्यों को प्राप्त करने का कोई संवैधानिक उपाय न बचा हो, तब असंवैधानिक उपाय उचित जान पड़ते हैं। परंतु जहां संवैधानिक उपाय खुले हों, वहां इन असंवैधानिक उपायों का कोई औचित्य नहीं है।" अब ऐसा लग रहा हैं कि इस देश में संवैधानिक उपाय की दूर तक कोई सम्भावना नहीं दिख रही हैं ऐसे में खुनी क्रांति की ओर अगर बहुजन बढ़ता हैं तो इसका दोष सवर्णों का ही होगा।
This is not an encounter this is custodial death. Encounter means when police go to arrest criminal and he attack on police and in retaliation if he does then it may be encounter but this is just murder nothing else
wonderful and awakening discussion. All the members of the panel are quite awakened and could make good suggestions for the amelioration of the well being of the downtrodden
Pamella Chauhan kali das was cutting the same branch's joint on which he was sitting and our so called politicians are doing the same . Their mind is busy there : Who says politics is not a child's game .?b
Brilliant discussion. Speakers deeply thought about the fabric of the society. Also I think the way the media accessed the pictures of the victims (Kathua and Telengana), it shows that the news get more response if the women look good in terms of conventional construct of beauty.
Unnao me ladki us ladke k sath livin relationship me thi, aur fir ladke se shadi tay hogayi thi jiske tootne ke baad ladki ne rape case file kardiya bad me ladke ka parivar jail chala gaya aur fir ladka bhi. Isliye Unnao aur hyderabad ke rape ko compare karna galat hai.
@@AbChauhan sad mentality tumhari, even rape happens in husband wifes, agar wife ki will k against jake hua ho wobi rape hai aur beta jala ke maar diya gya hai, kuch b nhi woh tere liye kitni nichi soch rakhte ho? Wtf is wrong with ppl nowadays shitt
My viewpoints on the whole incident: The act of Rape, burned to Death and the Rapists encountered to Death by Hyderabad police 1. This incident of rape is highly condemnable. This is the one of the most brutal kinds human behavior. The culprits should be brought to justice in such a manner that can become a deterrent example for probable criminal mindsets. 2. The conduct of the Hyderabad police was highly objectionable at the time when they got the information that this crime was being committed or was on the verge of being committed. The police got in action only when the incident became highly publicized and politicized. It arrested the four accused rapists swiftly due to pressure from public outrage, mindless and emotive political speeches. 3. The encounter conducted by the Hyderabad police with the four accused is highly objectionable also and equally condemnable at par with the incident of rape and burned to death. The act has created a question mark on the law, policing and judicial system. This is because the police was bounded to follow the relevant laws and rules to bring the accused to justice. The pretexts forwarded are highly objectionable, questionable and unreliable. Wild public emotions and sentiments should not be the base for right justice system for a country which has been a well-established democracy ruled by the Constitution of India. 4. The public outrage spread so fast and wild political outbursts came one after another, also raise many questions. If the visuals of TV channels are to go by, almost whole part of the public outrage was led by educated middle class. Un-educated and semi-educated working classes were not seen in this public outrage. The wild views expressed in this public were seemed to be guided ones influenced by the ideology of certain social and political class which is ruling the country currently. The whole incident as appeared before us indicate towards political orchestration. Involvement of RSS and its affiliates should not be rejected and should be scrutinized. JNU outrage has brought BJP under great pressure. Hence, it can go to any extent with a view to divert public attention to a new orchestrated event. 5. This kinds of public outrage, political outbursts with wild views are rarely witnessed by us when similar kind of crimes are committed in which victims belong to un-educated and semi-educated working classes such as peasants, laborers and other un-organized sections of society. Hundreds of Priyankas of so-called weaker sections of society are raped and burned to death annually as per reports in media but our parliament might have witnessed parliamentarians like Jaya Bachans’ outbursts suggesting for rapists being handed over to wild public crowd for lynching ever, I doubt. 6. The role of main-stream media in this case is not free from discriminatory approach. It televised BSP supremo Mayawati’s statement on encounter of giving un-precedent prominence. The real intention of main-stream media was to make the justification of encounter of un-educated, socially and financially weaker and potentially defenseless lorry drivers and cleaners heavier. I say this on the basis that I have rarely seen issues related to SC, ST, OBC and minorities in mainstream media being published or televised with positive viewpoints. 7. The encounter case is being taken up by NHRC. I hope for constructive approach by NHRC so that un-educated, socially and financially weaker and potentially defenseless lorry drivers and cleaners are brought to fair justice. 8. Rape is the most heinous crime against women. In my view, it is one of the kinds of mental sickness caused and perpetuated by many kinds of restrictions in our social behaviors related with boys and girls, men and women which might be unnecessary. This can be cured by effective educative system for adolescent boys and girls on sexual behavior. This educative system on sexual behavior should be considered upon to be an integral part of our schooling system from the level of boys and girls enter the age of adolescence. There are other reasons also which are aiding and abetting this kind of mental sickness. This can be checked by effective implementation of relevant laws on time. 9. Our society lacks education drastically. Brahminical mindsets or thinking processes have been influencing our society more negatively. Most of the Indians have pre-conceived sets deep-seated views and approaches which guide their individual and social behavior. These views and approaches are highly influenced by brahminical philosophy which is opposed to right understanding, right intention and right action. The seeds of confusive, crooked and criminal intentions are composted in the brahminical mindsets. We have been witnessing this for last five-six years more prominently all over the country. Brahminical mindsets are in absolute power. They are doing what they wished, planned and cherished for years since independence. IN MY VIEW, BRAHMINISM IS ROOT CAUSE OF ALMOST ALL EVILS IN THE INDIAN SOCIETY. IT HAS PERMEATED DEEP INTO THE MINDS OF THE SOCIETY. EVEN WELL-EDUCATED ONES ARE FOUND TO BE GUIDED BY BRAHMINICAL PROPAGANDA. DOMINANT POLITICAL CLASS, BUREAUCRACY, AND GOVERNMENT STAFF: ALL HAVE BRAHMINICAL MINDSETS. THEY SWEAR BY THE CONSTITUTION OF INDIA NOT WITH RIGHT INTENTIONS. THE TRUE SPIRITS OF THE CONSTITUTION OF INDIA HAVE NEVER BEEN LET TO COME INTO PLAY BY THESE BRAHMINICAL MIND SETS WHETHER THEY ARE IN PARLIAMENT, IN EXECUTIVE OR IN JUDICIARY. EVEN MAIN-STREAM MEDIA IS BADLY AFFECTED BY THESE BRAHMINICAL MINDSETS. WE HAVE BEEN WITNESSING WORST KIND OF OPINIONATED ANCHORING AND SELECTIVE, TAINTED AND BIASED NEWS REPORTING IN FAVOUR OF RULING GOVERNMENT SINCE 2014. WHATEVER THE PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS ESTABLISHED AND RUN SUCCESSFULLY FOR THE OVERALL BENEFITS AND DEVELOPMENTS OF INDIANS SINCE INDEPENCE ARE BEING DIMINISHED OR DEMOLISHED BY THESE BRAHMINICAL MINDSETS. THEY ARE ABLE TO CREATE, PROPAGATE AND ESTABLISH OPINIONS IN THE SOCIETY, WHICH ARE BOUND TO PUT THE GEAR OF PROGRESS AND DEVELOPMENTS IN REVERSE ULTIMATELY. THE CONCEPTS OF EQUALITY, LIBERTY, FREEDOM, FRATERNITY AND SCIENTIFIC TEMPERAMENT AS ESTABLISHED BY THE CONSTITUTION OF INDIA ARE BEING RIDICULED AND MALIGNED BY THE BRAHMINICAL MINDSETS. CORRUPTION, CRIME AGAINST WOMEN, SOCIAL DISCRIMINATION, RAMPART ILLITERACY, WANT OF QUALITY EDUCATION, POVERTY, BLIND FAITH, RELIGIOUS BIGOTRY, DISHONESTY, CROOKEDNESS, CREATION OF DELIBERATE CONFUSION, CALLOUSNESS, CONSPIRACY, RIGGING, CACOPHONY, FEUDALISM AND VIOLENCE: ALL HAVE THEIR ROOTS IN THE BRAHMINICAL MINDSETS. MOST INDIANS ARE AWARE OF THE ROOTS OF THESE EVILS BUT LACK THE WILL POWER TO DESTROY THEM DUE TO THEIR OWN VESTED INTERESTS. TO DESTROY THE ROOTS FOR EVER, THE POWER HAS TO BE IN THE HANDS OF THE LIKES OF DR. BHIM RAO AMBEDKAR. Amar Nath Prajapati 440B, SK, Sector-122, NOIDA-201304 Mobile No. 9711988349
Police encounter might have been done to cover previous crimes done for politicians by these accused may come out if these accused are in imprisonment.
Well said. All the three analysts said the same thing. And that is the truth of the day. This is fight between the haves and have-nots. Who will win,God alone know.
Urmilesh-ji, with due respect I would like to confess that the entire discussion was an out-dated farce. The vision and perspective, both were absent. We discussed the fundamental rights of a suspected rapist and the mind-set of the politicians, bureaucrats and performance of judiciary. We totally ignored the fundamental rights of the victims. Please note, we must take into account the ratio of suspected rapists ( who may sometimes be totally innocent ) and the victims. It would be no more than 1 : 1000 souls. Naturally, 1000 is more important for the society at large. We have to give greater importance to the fundamental rights of 1000 souls. Do we have any explanation why such events do not frequently take place in Saudi Arabia. Let's not mind if a few innocents, amongst the so-called suspected rapists, are sacrificed. We may treat them as martyrs on the alter of 'encounter'), but think of thousands of victims whose life may be saved if the potential rapists are suitably cautioned. And mind it, in these days even a two year old girl child is not spared by these demons. Let's talk of the justice to the victims, who are raped, stabbed, clubbed to death with a heavy stone or burnt alive to death. She runs for a Km. with her body aflame and demands, "I want to live". Her fundamental rights of life and liberty were totally smashed. The dead souls do not claim any fundamental rights. Please note, justice delayed is justice denied, but crime prevented is justice prescribed. Here comes the role of public-at-large. The judiciary is a slave of the Constitution, the Constitution is a slave of the public-at-large. The conviction rate has been less than 1 %. If the slaves can't fruitfully dispense their duty, the public has to take charge. And when that's done, it's a reflection of the pain, agony and remorose in the society. That's what happened. The public defined what the spirit of law should be though the method was crude. The victim can't be the subject matter of this fruitless talk. Focus on the fundamental rights of the victims. Sorry, I didn't like the talk...- SK Gandhi
See this anchor she is describing the type of victim, first she should think that she is also a woman and she is advocating the accused. Also she is creating difference in the society by dividing people into different category.
Wire par log khul kr nahi bol rhe seddhe seddhe aur sach boliye aur wahi hm dekhna chate khul kr btyae ki unnao aur hyadrabad may jaati ka frak h arfa say straight and right
Convener rightly said Vinod in his youth used to cover criminal reporting because that time politicians and criminals where different entities. As situation changed only the tag changed not his ground reporting.
I think the government system evolved from the need of people's affairs should be managed through a organized body . If government not fulfill this responsibility , then government become absurd and useless .
Jis din Hyderabad rape incident hua tha uske ek din baad Rajasthan k tonk district Mei ek 6 saal ki bachhi k sath rape karke uske school belt se hi uska gala ghotker hatya ker di gayi.. magar ye khabar bahut hi Kam highlight ki gayi.. media kewal big cities, high caste, effluent class Tak hi simit reh gayi hai... Amit Shah ka CAB per loksabha mei reply sun raha tha.. wo bangladesh, Pakistan, Afghanistan Mei hindu ladkion k sath rape per aansu baha raha tha.. magar apne hi desh Mei ladkion aur bachhion k sath Kya ho raha usper ek shabd nahi.. tum apne hi desh k nagrikon ko surakha nahi de sakte aur bahri logon ki suraksha ki baat Kar rahe ho? Itna kaminapan aata Kahan se hai? Bamiyaan Mei budhh ki murti tode Jane per dukh hai aur khud ne ek masjid tod di usper koi sharmindagi nahi... Meri baat shayad galat ho magar mujhe to lagta hai ki Modi-Shah ne desh Mei Jo nafrat aur class conflict ke halat paida kiye hain usi ki wajah se rape aur murder after rape k incidents Mei increase hua hai
our legal system has failed us. agar un 4 rapist ko kanun ke hawale karne se unme se 2 jan juvenile criteria mein choot jaate, saza se bach jate. Our judicial system has failed us in case of nirbhaya also as the most hard core gruesome rapist and killer got scot free because he proved himself a juvenile. agar thik karna hai to pehle dudiciary ko thik karein uske baad jayaz aur najayaz decide kijiyega
Hyderabad encounter brought lot of peace to the family of the victim, but the legal system of India may brought the same peace to the family after mentally exploitation in the name justice.I think the family lost the Doctor,but the police encounter brought the great relief to the family then the judiciary's process of India under the present govt. Rule.
Nice Debate.
Salute for
विचारों को खुल कर रखने के लिए।
आप लोगों का आज के बहस से जागरूक नागरिक होने की सीख हैं ।इसलिए आप सभी को सलाम करता हूँ ।धन्यवाद ।
Very good discussion. Great contributions from all participants.
A perfect discussion
बहुत अच्छा बहुत सुंदर debate अगर इस तरह की मेनस्ट्रीम मीडिया देश में डिबेट करें तो बहुत सारी घटनाएं और फैसलें सही-सही मुकम्मल किए जा सकते हैं
नमो बुद़ाय जय भीम जय भारत जय संविधान
तत्काल फांसी या एंकाउंटर या लींचिंग की मांग सैंगर, राम रहीम, नित्यानंद या चिंमयानंद आदि के लिए क्यों नहीं उठती।
This was truly an amazing discussion, way better than the nonsense that we see on most TV news channels other than NDTV. God bless all 4 of you. May this world become a better place because of thoughtful discussions like these. God bless all of us.
Nice analysis sir,,, aarfa mam की बात बहुत हद तक सही लग रही है......
Thank you Urmilesh sir
हमारे देश को न्याय विकास सबसे ज्यादा जरूरत है, उसका रास्ता भी सुझायें ।
बहुत ही अच्छा डिबेट रहा
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Nice debate
Aarfa ji aap great journalist ho....i am proud of you really👍👍👍👍👍
I also subscribe to your views, but I feel afraid for her.. I am obsessed with whatever happened to Gauri Lankesh....- SK Gandhi
श्रीमान आपके द्वारा उठाये मुद्दे प्रसंशनीय है। आईएएस एग्जाम मैं अच्छी समझ विकशित करने हेतु आपके विशषज्ञों के स्वतंत्रता विचार काफी सराहनीय है। जिस तरह की आज कल की मीडिया तटस्थत नही रही। आप एक निष्पक्ष पत्रकारिता की भूमिका निभा रहै है धन्यवाद
kya jabardast panel , Urmilesh ji .Is programme sunne aur dekhne ke liye tarash khata mai
Urmilesh ji reached the place where he suits most
Really happy 😆😆
I am agree with Arfa khanam sherwani
Yes bro
बढ़िया
Superb discussion.... awesome wire!
Aarfa ji aap bahut sahi kah rahi hai
Arfa is always very balanced...- SK Gandhi
arfa is a grt journalist
द वायर और उनकी पत्रकार टीम सबसे अच्छा और ईमानदार कर्तव्य निभा रही है आप सभी को सेल्यूट है । सच का सामना सिर्फ द वायर ओर एन डी टी वही ही है
No doubts about it... - SK Gandhi
Great discussion
Right discussion.👍👍👍
बलात्कार और न्यायपालिका की वर्तमान स्थति पर बड़ी बेबाक़ी से विश्लेषण से मैं बहुत प्रभावित हुआ हूँ आपने वर्तमान ग़ैरबराबरी को बखूबी से बहस में समझाया हैं आभारी हूँ।
हमारे यहां की कहावत "अमीर की जोरू सबकी दादी , ग़रीब की जोरू सबकी भाभी " को आपने सही सिद्ध कर दिया , कि ग़रीब, दलित को समानता ,स्वतंत्रता और न्याय का कोई अधिकार नहीं रहा हैं। उसका मान सम्मान और स्वाभिमान कोई मायने नहीं रखता।
बाबा साहब के संविधान सभा में अंतिम भाषण में कहा था कि
"हमें पहला काम यह करना चाहिए कि अपने सामाजिक और आर्थिक लक्ष्यों को प्राप्त करने के लिए निष्ठापूर्वक संवैधानिक उपायों का ही सहारा लेना चाहिए। इसका अर्थ है, हमें क्रांति का खूनी रास्ता छोड़ना होगा। इसका अर्थ है कि हमें सविनय अवज्ञा आंदोलन, असहयोग और सत्याग्रह के तरीके छोड़ने होंगे। जब आर्थिक और सामाजिक लक्ष्यों को प्राप्त करने का कोई संवैधानिक उपाय न बचा हो, तब असंवैधानिक उपाय उचित जान पड़ते हैं। परंतु जहां संवैधानिक उपाय खुले हों, वहां इन असंवैधानिक उपायों का कोई औचित्य नहीं है।"
अब ऐसा लग रहा हैं कि इस देश में संवैधानिक उपाय की दूर तक कोई सम्भावना नहीं दिख रही हैं ऐसे में खुनी क्रांति की ओर अगर बहुजन बढ़ता हैं तो इसका दोष सवर्णों का ही होगा।
Great debate and knowledge
Bahut achhi lagi..... Thx
Baroda wala case be doute full hai....
Good.news
@Good Reporting
बहुत अच्छा प्रोग्राम किये पर जनता को जागृत करने का प्रोग्राम करिये
Very good discussion. Vinod Sharma ji is excellent. His views are very clear and logical.
Excellent debate
*The right person gets the right information*
Wakaii bht alag vichar takhe gye or bht hi valid 👍👍
बहुत सच है !!!!
सभी संस्थाए जनेऊ पहन लिया है, सिस्टम केवल जनेऊ धारीयो के लिए है, मीडिया जनेऊ धारी है
आरफा की तारीफ करनी पड़ेगी जो शर्मा जी बात घुमा रहे थे उसको काट कर सही बात की आरफा ने
Yes. .. - SK Gandhi
This is not an encounter this is custodial death. Encounter means when police go to arrest criminal and he attack on police and in retaliation if he does then it may be encounter but this is just murder nothing else
Encounters are invariably custodial deaths... - SK Gandhi
wonderful and awakening discussion. All the members of the panel are quite awakened and could make good suggestions for the amelioration of the well being of the downtrodden
Great sir
Gr8 Reporting
आपका यह प्रयास सराहनीय है।
Accha discussion tha.
Very good and rational debate.
Pamella Chauhan kali das was cutting the same branch's joint on which he was sitting and our so called politicians are doing the same . Their mind is busy there : Who says politics is not a child's game .?b
Good reporting
Bht umda nice sir
ANDHER NAGRI CHOPAT RAJA
Good debate.....thanks
Your programe is all ways good
Good discussion 👍👍👍👍
Thank you
Crime is crime whatsoever religion or caste he belongs to
कुछ नेता कहते हैं लड़कों से गलती हों जाती है और कुछ नेताओं ने तो खुद ऐसी घटनाएं में लिप्त है इस लिए एसी घटनाओं पर अंकुश लगाने का दावा सिर्फ दिखावा है
Brilliant discussion. Speakers deeply thought about the fabric of the society. Also I think the way the media accessed the pictures of the victims (Kathua and Telengana), it shows that the news get more response if the women look good in terms of conventional construct of beauty.
Super bbbbbbbbbb 👌🙏👏
Very good sir bahut achhI baat hui aapka to jawab nahi
Very nice arfa
Good Ripotar..
Media ka matlab samachar dena hai, political agenda set karna nahi.
Have you studied little bit of history
Study indian national movement and check what were our leaders were doing at that time
I like this program good
Ser ghadhe per taj rakh ker ap kya umed rakhoge
Iss desh me Law sabke liye same nehi hai
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Aarafaji aapake vichar satik hai
unnao me bhi jala k maara gya hyderabad ki tarah lekin jyada awaz nhi uth rhi...🙄😣
Apnon ki galthi chupai gai hai
Unnao me ladki us ladke k sath livin relationship me thi, aur fir ladke se shadi tay hogayi thi jiske tootne ke baad ladki ne rape case file kardiya bad me ladke ka parivar jail chala gaya aur fir ladka bhi.
Isliye Unnao aur hyderabad ke rape ko compare karna galat hai.
@@AbChauhan sad mentality tumhari, even rape happens in husband wifes, agar wife ki will k against jake hua ho wobi rape hai aur beta jala ke maar diya gya hai, kuch b nhi woh tere liye kitni nichi soch rakhte ho? Wtf is wrong with ppl nowadays shitt
@@AbChauhanmay be u right isse sabit huwa leaving relationship galath
Chinmiyanand Sanger Ram Raheem ext inhain bhi phansaya gaya hai
Ya doshi hain?
@Akshay Rajput kitna jhoot bologe
Sir jab tak caste system he, tab tak rape hote hi rahenge😕😢.
आज कल मिडिया उसके घरों की पहरे दारी करने में लगा हुआ है जहां से विज्ञापन और एडवरटाइजिंग के जरिए मोटी रकम कमा रहे हैं
Thought provoking
best episode
v good
Sacchi media ye hai jo tathyo ko nishpaksh rop me rakha ja raha hai aap logon ko ishwar salamat rahe aur Ase hi hamare liye news dete rahe
My viewpoints on the whole incident: The act of Rape, burned to Death and the Rapists encountered to Death by Hyderabad police
1. This incident of rape is highly condemnable. This is the one of the most brutal kinds human behavior. The culprits should be brought to justice in such a manner that can become a deterrent example for probable criminal mindsets.
2. The conduct of the Hyderabad police was highly objectionable at the time when they got the information that this crime was being committed or was on the verge of being committed.
The police got in action only when the incident became highly publicized and politicized. It arrested the four accused rapists swiftly due to pressure from public outrage, mindless and emotive political speeches.
3. The encounter conducted by the Hyderabad police with the four accused is highly objectionable also and equally condemnable at par with the incident of rape and burned to death. The act has created a question mark on the law, policing and judicial system. This is because the police was bounded to follow the relevant laws and rules to bring the accused to justice. The pretexts forwarded are highly objectionable, questionable and unreliable. Wild public emotions and sentiments should not be the base for right justice system for a country which has been a well-established democracy ruled by the Constitution of India.
4. The public outrage spread so fast and wild political outbursts came one after another, also raise many questions. If the visuals of TV channels are to go by, almost whole part of the public outrage was led by educated middle class. Un-educated and semi-educated working classes were not seen in this public outrage. The wild views expressed in this public were seemed to be guided ones influenced by the ideology of certain social and political class which is ruling the country currently. The whole incident as appeared before us indicate towards political orchestration. Involvement of RSS and its affiliates should not be rejected and should be scrutinized. JNU outrage has brought BJP under great pressure. Hence, it can go to any extent with a view to divert public attention to a new orchestrated event.
5. This kinds of public outrage, political outbursts with wild views are rarely witnessed by us when similar kind of crimes are committed in which victims belong to un-educated and semi-educated working classes such as peasants, laborers and other un-organized sections of society. Hundreds of Priyankas of so-called weaker sections of society are raped and burned to death annually as per reports in media but our parliament might have witnessed parliamentarians like Jaya Bachans’ outbursts suggesting for rapists being handed over to wild public crowd for lynching ever, I doubt.
6. The role of main-stream media in this case is not free from discriminatory approach. It televised BSP supremo Mayawati’s statement on encounter of giving un-precedent prominence. The real intention of main-stream media was to make the justification of encounter of un-educated, socially and financially weaker and potentially defenseless lorry drivers and cleaners heavier. I say this on the basis that I have rarely seen issues related to SC, ST, OBC and minorities in mainstream media being published or televised with positive viewpoints.
7. The encounter case is being taken up by NHRC. I hope for constructive approach by NHRC so that un-educated, socially and financially weaker and potentially defenseless lorry drivers and cleaners are brought to fair justice.
8. Rape is the most heinous crime against women. In my view, it is one of the kinds of mental sickness caused and perpetuated by many kinds of restrictions in our social behaviors related with boys and girls, men and women which might be unnecessary. This can be cured by effective educative system for adolescent boys and girls on sexual behavior. This educative system on sexual behavior should be considered upon to be an integral part of our schooling system from the level of boys and girls enter the age of adolescence. There are other reasons also which are aiding and abetting this kind of mental sickness. This can be checked by effective implementation of relevant laws on time.
9. Our society lacks education drastically. Brahminical mindsets or thinking processes have been influencing our society more negatively. Most of the Indians have pre-conceived sets deep-seated views and approaches which guide their individual and social behavior. These views and approaches are highly influenced by brahminical philosophy which is opposed to right understanding, right intention and right action. The seeds of confusive, crooked and criminal intentions are composted in the brahminical mindsets. We have been witnessing this for last five-six years more prominently all over the country. Brahminical mindsets are in absolute power. They are doing what they wished, planned and cherished for years since independence.
IN MY VIEW, BRAHMINISM IS ROOT CAUSE OF ALMOST ALL EVILS IN THE INDIAN SOCIETY. IT HAS PERMEATED DEEP INTO THE MINDS OF THE SOCIETY. EVEN WELL-EDUCATED ONES ARE FOUND TO BE GUIDED BY BRAHMINICAL PROPAGANDA. DOMINANT POLITICAL CLASS, BUREAUCRACY, AND GOVERNMENT STAFF: ALL HAVE BRAHMINICAL MINDSETS. THEY SWEAR BY THE CONSTITUTION OF INDIA NOT WITH RIGHT INTENTIONS. THE TRUE SPIRITS OF THE CONSTITUTION OF INDIA HAVE NEVER BEEN LET TO COME INTO PLAY BY THESE BRAHMINICAL MIND SETS WHETHER THEY ARE IN PARLIAMENT, IN EXECUTIVE OR IN JUDICIARY. EVEN MAIN-STREAM MEDIA IS BADLY AFFECTED BY THESE BRAHMINICAL MINDSETS. WE HAVE BEEN WITNESSING WORST KIND OF OPINIONATED ANCHORING AND SELECTIVE, TAINTED AND BIASED NEWS REPORTING IN FAVOUR OF RULING GOVERNMENT SINCE 2014. WHATEVER THE PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS ESTABLISHED AND RUN SUCCESSFULLY FOR THE OVERALL BENEFITS AND DEVELOPMENTS OF INDIANS SINCE INDEPENCE ARE BEING DIMINISHED OR DEMOLISHED BY THESE BRAHMINICAL MINDSETS. THEY ARE ABLE TO CREATE, PROPAGATE AND ESTABLISH OPINIONS IN THE SOCIETY, WHICH ARE BOUND TO PUT THE GEAR OF PROGRESS AND DEVELOPMENTS IN REVERSE ULTIMATELY. THE CONCEPTS OF EQUALITY, LIBERTY, FREEDOM, FRATERNITY AND SCIENTIFIC TEMPERAMENT AS ESTABLISHED BY THE CONSTITUTION OF INDIA ARE BEING RIDICULED AND MALIGNED BY THE BRAHMINICAL MINDSETS. CORRUPTION, CRIME AGAINST WOMEN, SOCIAL DISCRIMINATION, RAMPART ILLITERACY, WANT OF QUALITY EDUCATION, POVERTY, BLIND FAITH, RELIGIOUS BIGOTRY, DISHONESTY, CROOKEDNESS, CREATION OF DELIBERATE CONFUSION, CALLOUSNESS, CONSPIRACY, RIGGING, CACOPHONY, FEUDALISM AND VIOLENCE: ALL HAVE THEIR ROOTS IN THE BRAHMINICAL MINDSETS. MOST INDIANS ARE AWARE OF THE ROOTS OF THESE EVILS BUT LACK THE WILL POWER TO DESTROY THEM DUE TO THEIR OWN VESTED INTERESTS. TO DESTROY THE ROOTS FOR EVER, THE POWER HAS TO BE IN THE HANDS OF THE LIKES OF DR. BHIM RAO AMBEDKAR.
Amar Nath Prajapati
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Request to panelist donot go to Godi media it heart us your really true journalist
Gandhi is no more , new generation fallowing "goudse" well done in parliment .
nyc
Good SIR
Parliament me Owaisi Saab aur TV studio me Arfa Sahiba ka koi jawab nhi, Kabhi Jaya Bhaduri Arfa Sahiba ke saamne lakar bithaya jaye..
yeh rape ko rokne k liye koi qanoon nai lane wale q k inke kafi sare mantri latak jaengy😔afsoos 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
16DEC KO nirbheya kitne sal hogye
Right sir.
Police encounter might have been done to cover previous crimes done for politicians by these accused may come out if these accused are in imprisonment.
Well said. All the three analysts said the same thing. And that is the truth of the day. This is fight between the haves and have-nots. Who will win,God alone know.
Andher nagree andha Raja, desh ka tau bantadhaar hona hi h.
High grade mentality haven't changed yet..
How can u say it's fake encounter? Are you magistrate?
The wire channel anti India hai ..
Bilkul social revolution is the solution
Foreign shares in media stocks has big influence in policy making in media.
Kas sab chenel asi charcha kar ti
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Urmilesh-ji, with due respect I would like to confess that the entire discussion was an out-dated farce. The vision and perspective, both were absent.
We discussed the fundamental rights of a suspected rapist and the mind-set of the politicians, bureaucrats and performance of judiciary. We totally ignored the fundamental rights of the victims.
Please note, we must take into account the ratio of suspected rapists ( who may sometimes be totally innocent ) and the victims. It would be no more than 1 : 1000 souls. Naturally, 1000 is more important for the society at large. We have to give greater importance to the fundamental rights of 1000 souls.
Do we have any explanation why such events do not frequently take place in Saudi Arabia.
Let's not mind if a few innocents, amongst the so-called suspected rapists, are sacrificed. We may treat them as martyrs on the alter of 'encounter'), but think of thousands of victims whose life may be saved if the potential rapists are suitably cautioned. And mind it, in these days even a two year old girl child is not spared by these demons.
Let's talk of the justice to the victims, who are raped, stabbed, clubbed to death with a heavy stone or burnt alive to death. She runs for a Km. with her body aflame and demands, "I want to live". Her fundamental rights of life and liberty were totally smashed.
The dead souls do not claim any fundamental rights. Please note, justice delayed is justice denied, but crime prevented is justice prescribed. Here comes the role of public-at-large.
The judiciary is a slave of the Constitution, the Constitution is a slave of the public-at-large. The conviction rate has been less than 1 %. If the slaves can't fruitfully dispense their duty, the public has to take charge. And when that's done, it's a reflection of the pain, agony and remorose in the society.
That's what happened. The public defined what the spirit of law should be though the method was crude.
The victim can't be the subject matter of this fruitless talk. Focus on the fundamental rights of the victims.
Sorry, I didn't like the talk...- SK Gandhi
See this anchor she is describing the type of victim, first she should think that she is also a woman and she is advocating the accused. Also she is creating difference in the society by dividing people into different category.
Wire par log khul kr nahi bol rhe seddhe seddhe aur sach boliye aur wahi hm dekhna chate khul kr btyae ki unnao aur hyadrabad may jaati ka frak h arfa say straight and right
Kabhi Kabhi Dharm ko bachane ke liye
Hinsa Karna koi buri baat nehi hai
Convener rightly said Vinod in his youth used to cover criminal reporting because that time politicians and criminals where different entities.
As situation changed only the tag changed not his ground reporting.
I think the government system evolved from the need of people's affairs should be managed through a organized body .
If government not fulfill this responsibility , then government become absurd and useless .
NYAY EK NISCHIT SAMAY SEEMA ME HO JAANA BAHUT ZAROORI HE, JO BHRASTACHAR KE CHALTE SAMBHAV NAHI HE.
Yes, the public reaction is a reply to that... - SK Gandhi
The wire best Arifa khanm you beautiful
Jis din Hyderabad rape incident hua tha uske ek din baad Rajasthan k tonk district Mei ek 6 saal ki bachhi k sath rape karke uske school belt se hi uska gala ghotker hatya ker di gayi.. magar ye khabar bahut hi Kam highlight ki gayi.. media kewal big cities, high caste, effluent class Tak hi simit reh gayi hai... Amit Shah ka CAB per loksabha mei reply sun raha tha.. wo bangladesh, Pakistan, Afghanistan Mei hindu ladkion k sath rape per aansu baha raha tha.. magar apne hi desh Mei ladkion aur bachhion k sath Kya ho raha usper ek shabd nahi.. tum apne hi desh k nagrikon ko surakha nahi de sakte aur bahri logon ki suraksha ki baat Kar rahe ho? Itna kaminapan aata Kahan se hai? Bamiyaan Mei budhh ki murti tode Jane per dukh hai aur khud ne ek masjid tod di usper koi sharmindagi nahi... Meri baat shayad galat ho magar mujhe to lagta hai ki Modi-Shah ne desh Mei Jo nafrat aur class conflict ke halat paida kiye hain usi ki wajah se rape aur murder after rape k incidents Mei increase hua hai
our legal system has failed us. agar un 4 rapist ko kanun ke hawale karne se unme se 2 jan juvenile criteria mein choot jaate, saza se bach jate. Our judicial system has failed us in case of nirbhaya also as the most hard core gruesome rapist and killer got scot free because he proved himself a juvenile. agar thik karna hai to pehle dudiciary ko thik karein uske baad jayaz aur najayaz decide kijiyega
Hyderabad encounter brought lot of peace to the family of the victim, but the legal system of India may brought the same peace to the family after mentally exploitation in the name justice.I think the family lost the Doctor,but the police encounter brought the great relief to the family then the judiciary's process of India under the present govt. Rule.