So right , I start with centering and if it's not 45/55 it auto goes into the not 10 pile . Those that have 50/50 centering next is corners then surface . I disqualify cards from 10s pretty quickly
@@jason916 PSA allows a 5% centering variance. So, 60/40 is still within tolerance for a 10. SURFACE issues are what people overlook or don't see. I use a centering tool/grid and a LED jewler's loupe to look for surface issues. They are rampant due to people sliding cards over each other when ripping packs.
@@jason916 Their site still states 60/40 and I have new stuff come back like that just fine. In these videos on youtube it is tough to see edges and surfaces. Those are typically what cause 7-8 grades on cards that look good otherwise. Corners are easy to spot in videos.
A little info on that Bill Ripkin card, he was the one who actually wrote it on the bat. He knew it was going to be in a big bin with a lot of other bats so he didn't want to put just his number thinking it would blend in too much so he wanted something to stand out so he could locate it faster. He then wrote F Face on it and after batting practice, a photographer asked to take his picture and completely forgot about what he had on the knob.
@@deezroastedchestnuts189 At least your mom cares what I think. Sorry you walked in when she was on her knees (again). Have a good night my keyboard warrior friend.
I've been lucky and avoided any of the dreaded "not able to grade" cards. Bummer on the cracked case! Hopefully PSA will get back to you about fixing the issue, it does look like they have an online streamlined process now to do just that, which is quite new. Congrats on the quick returns again!
When sending cards off for grading make sure they are centered perfectly and use a loupe with great lighting to check each corner and surface as close as possible. It will save money and keep expectations in check.
You might have gotta a 8 on that 1996 Finest Allen Iverson refactor because if there is a slight scratches on the coating they grade the coating on the cards because they can’t grade what is underneath the coating. Psa is pretty strict on surface, corner, edges and not so much strict on centering just A little something you should know.
Yeah, I think you are right. I've learned a lot over the last 8 months or so, and that is definitely something I didn't take into account originally. Thanks for the comment!
I’ve had pack pulled cards get min size it’s not uncommon psa got nailed for grading trimmed cards so now they are really conservative even if it comes like that from the factory
I’m not a grader but it looked like the Fleer basketball looked a little off center and if there is a hint of a soft corner or edge they will “8” it all day. That’s been my experience anyway, still a bunch of awesome cards!!
I love the channel and have been following you from the get go. You seem kind and I was pulling for you! You have me nervous for when I get mine back. I tried some ungraded ebay purchases....we'll see how that goes. That Iverson Refractor did look great, and the 8 was a tough one, but looking at the population and sales for that card, they don't like to give those a 10, and the 9s fetch a spectacular price! I don't know about you....but I am super excited to check for the new quarterly specials later this week!
Thanks! Yeah, the Iverson I was disappointed with and I saw the same thing on the pop report. Oh well. Yes, I'm dying for a good special next month!! Thanks for the support!
Love the channel. I'm basically behind you on a lot of submissions (have 4 currently in process). On the Kobe's, make sure to check the foil in the logo and names (especially on the Ultra). If there are scratches or any of it is missing it will ding the grade quite a bit. Many times you can only see it if you look at it under magnification. On the Iverson refractor, check the coating. If there is any bubbling or scratches on that, it might make sense to crack it and peel the coating off. The surface should be pristine underneath. From what I can tell, there really isn't that big of a difference between coating and no coating on graded cards and it could raise it up to that 9 level. Back when they first came out, I do remember everyone said not to peel. Keep up the good work and making the videos.
Thank you! I'll check those out. I probably won't be resubmitting anything, but I'll see if something might be worth it. Good luck to you and thanks for watching!
Minimum size requirement. They can come out of packs that way. I have a bowman die cut refractor of Kobe that I pack pulled and it came back minsizreq. Unfortunately they haven't mastered being able to tell if it's from the factory or altered by some moron later on. It does suck.
I have a bunch of ungraded jordan cards would love to get your opinion on if I should submit to psa. Never done it before not sure what to specifically look at. I understand centering corners etc... but I mean all of those you submitted look like higher grades to my eye
Well I'm still learning, but if you're referring to the Vintage 86 87 Fleer cards I sent in, I kind of thought they might be a little higher myself. But, apparently vintage is the toughest to grade. I'm not sure how much I could help you. The process takes a long time so honestly I'm a little frustrated at this point.
@@dannyshobbies6784 hey man, I just watched this video, most of the cards you got 8/9s on I think got it mostly for centering . Most of those cards are off either left to right/ right to left.
@@heatherfugere Yeah I agree. I know most of them were off a little bit. Everything else seemed pretty good on them so I thought some of the 8's might have been 9's or even 8.5. but, it is what it is!
Yeah, you can see as I started looking at it closer I remembered that I kind of threw that one in. It had been so long since I sent it in, I forgot about it. But it wasn't great. I'm definitely learning more.
Solid video man! I got that iverson gold refractors in an 8 as well. Yours if off centered so 9 was your cap. I’d peel it and sub again to try and get the 9.
@@dannyshobbies6784 would appear I was a victim of the Mandela effect. I did some more digging and found out that Billy himself actually wrote it on there. It was a batting practice bat and he had to write something so he didn't confuse it with a game bat
I've seen many videos that non centered cards get 10's and these include cards that have sold for 5 figures which is just ridiculous, people are buying the grade and not the card, unfortunately if these type of cards were resubmitted probably less than 10% would come back as 10's.
Got a question on sending in autograph cards. So the player signed it but it looked like his sharpie made a small mark in the edge of the card. Is that considered a qualifier flaw?
Yeah. I know a lot of them I thought "were pretty good." I guess that's my way of saying "60/40?" LOL. I'm getting a better understanding of what they are looking for...I think. 🤔
60/40 is considered PSA 10 centering standard. My guess is that there were corner and edge issues on many of these. Also, on the Finest stuff, if you leave the protective film on the card, they grade that, too, as part of the surface. Those films get all sorts of tiny scratches and scuffs on them.
I just paid $200 to PSA for a single pack fresh card. They graded it a 7 (the edges weren’t the cleanest from the manufacturer, but there was zero damage from wear.) Anyways the card is loose in the case. It’s VERY loose. It will probably only create more damage to the edges. I’m not happy and will never be sending an expensive card to PSA again. I’m not going to continue to pay them to damage my most valuable cards.
Dan - if you want to get a better grade on the AI refactor, you HAVE to take the coating off. They ding you big time for leaving it on. It probably is a 10, once you take it off and clean the smudges.
I was just going to make this comment. The centering is one of the first things you need to look at and the Iverson for example is OC enough alone to not get a 10, not taking into consideration any other issues.
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Centering is always the most important thing. Always start there and then look at the corners and edges.
So right , I start with centering and if it's not 45/55 it auto goes into the not 10 pile . Those that have 50/50 centering next is corners then surface . I disqualify cards from 10s pretty quickly
How can u judge centering on cards like Mosaic?? The grademaster doesnt work on borderless cards like Mosaic
@@jason916 PSA allows a 5% centering variance. So, 60/40 is still within tolerance for a 10. SURFACE issues are what people overlook or don't see. I use a centering tool/grid and a LED jewler's loupe to look for surface issues. They are rampant due to people sliding cards over each other when ripping packs.
@@thomasc1753 60/40 will get you a 9 these days it seems
@@jason916 Their site still states 60/40 and I have new stuff come back like that just fine. In these videos on youtube it is tough to see edges and surfaces. Those are typically what cause 7-8 grades on cards that look good otherwise. Corners are easy to spot in videos.
A little info on that Bill Ripkin card, he was the one who actually wrote it on the bat. He knew it was going to be in a big bin with a lot of other bats so he didn't want to put just his number thinking it would blend in too much so he wanted something to stand out so he could locate it faster. He then wrote F Face on it and after batting practice, a photographer asked to take his picture and completely forgot about what he had on the knob.
That is great. I never knew that! 🤣
Gold Allen Iverson would have gotten a 10 if you peeled the protection off. Any line scratches on the peel lowers the grade.
I would rather have a 9 with the peel on than a 10 with the peel off. Also, like Pat mentioned, the centering is off and therefore, could not be a 10.
@@tampahomeinvestorsllc7559 nobody cares what you think. Your opinions, hold no weight in the card world.
@@deezroastedchestnuts189 At least your mom cares what I think. Sorry you walked in when she was on her knees (again). Have a good night my keyboard warrior friend.
I've been lucky and avoided any of the dreaded "not able to grade" cards. Bummer on the cracked case! Hopefully PSA will get back to you about fixing the issue, it does look like they have an online streamlined process now to do just that, which is quite new. Congrats on the quick returns again!
Thank you! Yeah, I see the online form for the damaged case. I'm going to fill that out right now. I'll let you know if they take care of me!
Nice returns Danny's Collectibles and thanks for sharing. I just hit the like button and subscribed. Best of luck on your other submissions.
Thanks! I'll make another video soon!
@@dannyshobbies6784 Awesome, i look forward to it!!!!
When sending cards off for grading make sure they are centered perfectly and use a loupe with great lighting to check each corner and surface as close as possible. It will save money and keep expectations in check.
I now do all of the above. 100%!
You might have gotta a 8 on that 1996 Finest Allen Iverson refactor because if there is a slight scratches on the coating they grade the coating on the cards because they can’t grade what is underneath the coating. Psa is pretty strict on surface, corner, edges and not so much strict on centering just A little something you should know.
Yeah, I think you are right. I've learned a lot over the last 8 months or so, and that is definitely something I didn't take into account originally. Thanks for the comment!
I’ve had pack pulled cards get min size it’s not uncommon psa got nailed for grading trimmed cards so now they are really conservative even if it comes like that from the factory
Some tough grades. Nice cards Danny.
I’m not a grader but it looked like the Fleer basketball looked a little off center and if there is a hint of a soft corner or edge they will “8” it all day. That’s been my experience anyway, still a bunch of awesome cards!!
Thanks! Yeah, I'm learning as I go.
I love the channel and have been following you from the get go. You seem kind and I was pulling for you! You have me nervous for when I get mine back. I tried some ungraded ebay purchases....we'll see how that goes.
That Iverson Refractor did look great, and the 8 was a tough one, but looking at the population and sales for that card, they don't like to give those a 10, and the 9s fetch a spectacular price!
I don't know about you....but I am super excited to check for the new quarterly specials later this week!
Thanks! Yeah, the Iverson I was disappointed with and I saw the same thing on the pop report. Oh well.
Yes, I'm dying for a good special next month!! Thanks for the support!
Love the channel. I'm basically behind you on a lot of submissions (have 4 currently in process). On the Kobe's, make sure to check the foil in the logo and names (especially on the Ultra). If there are scratches or any of it is missing it will ding the grade quite a bit. Many times you can only see it if you look at it under magnification. On the Iverson refractor, check the coating. If there is any bubbling or scratches on that, it might make sense to crack it and peel the coating off. The surface should be pristine underneath. From what I can tell, there really isn't that big of a difference between coating and no coating on graded cards and it could raise it up to that 9 level. Back when they first came out, I do remember everyone said not to peel. Keep up the good work and making the videos.
Thank you! I'll check those out. I probably won't be resubmitting anything, but I'll see if something might be worth it. Good luck to you and thanks for watching!
This is everyone that sends into PSA. PSA is very hard. That is why the 10's bring a premium.
Minimum size requirement. They can come out of packs that way. I have a bowman die cut refractor of Kobe that I pack pulled and it came back minsizreq. Unfortunately they haven't mastered being able to tell if it's from the factory or altered by some moron later on. It does suck.
Damn. Thanks for the explanation. Yes, it sucks. We should get a refund for the card! (No way, right?) Lol.
You can resubmit the Kobe card, and it might get a grade.
Nice cards! Keep up the great videos!!
Thank you!
I have a bunch of ungraded jordan cards would love to get your opinion on if I should submit to psa. Never done it before not sure what to specifically look at. I understand centering corners etc... but I mean all of those you submitted look like higher grades to my eye
Well I'm still learning, but if you're referring to the Vintage 86 87 Fleer cards I sent in, I kind of thought they might be a little higher myself. But, apparently vintage is the toughest to grade. I'm not sure how much I could help you. The process takes a long time so honestly I'm a little frustrated at this point.
@@dannyshobbies6784 hey man, I just watched this video, most of the cards you got 8/9s on I think got it mostly for centering . Most of those cards are off either left to right/ right to left.
@@heatherfugere Yeah I agree. I know most of them were off a little bit. Everything else seemed pretty good on them so I thought some of the 8's might have been 9's or even 8.5. but, it is what it is!
Kobe 7 "Corners really nice, Edges nice" ..... Um do you not see the soft corner? :)
Yeah, you can see as I started looking at it closer I remembered that I kind of threw that one in. It had been so long since I sent it in, I forgot about it. But it wasn't great. I'm definitely learning more.
Solid video man! I got that iverson gold refractors in an 8 as well. Yours if off centered so 9 was your cap. I’d peel it and sub again to try and get the 9.
Lol maybe I will try it again. Yeah, top is off ever so slightly. 10 was wishful thinking but a 9 right? We'll see.
Danny's Collectibles I think it could 9
Your hair is spectacular! I wear the same style. Nice reveal!
Haha. Thanks! It's the easiest style to have. Thanks for watching!
Do you think the more you send the faster it is to get them back.
No. At least in my experience. My biggest order was 26 cards I sent in June of 2020. They still haven't been graded yet.
Min size means it does not meet the size requirements to be slabbed
You got an 8 because of the peal film you didnt take off
PSA is brutally tough on vintage. Cal wrote the FF on his bat
Did he really, or are you pulling my leg? Lol
@@dannyshobbies6784 would appear I was a victim of the Mandela effect. I did some more digging and found out that Billy himself actually wrote it on there. It was a batting practice bat and he had to write something so he didn't confuse it with a game bat
That fleer ultra 7 Kobe I knew it was bad even before it was revealed.
Yeah. After I got it I remember that that wasn't one of the best ones. I still wanted to get it slabbed though.
How long did it take to get your submissions back being they were free for your membership?
I did a video dedicated to this, but it took about 4 months.
I've seen many videos that non centered cards get 10's and these include cards that have sold for 5 figures which is just ridiculous, people are buying the grade and not the card, unfortunately if these type of cards were resubmitted probably less than 10% would come back as 10's.
Got a question on sending in autograph cards. So the player signed it but it looked like his sharpie made a small mark in the edge of the card. Is that considered a qualifier flaw?
I really don't know much about signatures. I'm sorry. Wish I did. Check the PSA site any see if they have anything on it. Good luck!
all of those 8 NBA cards were slightly off center left to right... that's why they weren't 9's
Yeah, I'm learning. Lol
86 fleer are hard cards to grade an 8 is not as bad as if it was a modern card.
Agreed. Much better than a 7!
That is such a pretty card, the Iverson gold refractor.
I agree. However, a 9 or 10 would have made it a lot prettier!
That Bird would never get a 9 with that shift towards the top
There was a guy that was grading everything an 8, he has since been fired. Maybe you got him?
That would be just my luck!
Thanks for sharing!
That’s a tough submission. Did you group submit or submit on your own?
On my own. That was my free 15 when I signed up for the platinum membership.
You are not picking up on the centering issues on your cards. A few 60-40 on the Basketball
Yeah. I know a lot of them I thought "were pretty good." I guess that's my way of saying "60/40?" LOL. I'm getting a better understanding of what they are looking for...I think. 🤔
60/40 is considered PSA 10 centering standard. My guess is that there were corner and edge issues on many of these. Also, on the Finest stuff, if you leave the protective film on the card, they grade that, too, as part of the surface. Those films get all sorts of tiny scratches and scuffs on them.
Sweet Slabs!
PSA is unbelievable, yet people keep submitting. Cracked slabs, gunk in the slab. Crazy
I just paid $200 to PSA for a single pack fresh card. They graded it a 7 (the edges weren’t the cleanest from the manufacturer, but there was zero damage from wear.) Anyways the card is loose in the case. It’s VERY loose. It will probably only create more damage to the edges. I’m not happy and will never be sending an expensive card to PSA again. I’m not going to continue to pay them to damage my most valuable cards.
Judging from the centering on your Iverson Finest rc, you can tell that's poorly centered so it's far from being a 10. Still an awesome card though!
darklavalizard It's pretty obvious he didn't check the centering before submitting.
You did not pay for the Minsizereq, check your invoice. Nice reveal!
You're absolutely right! LOL. I didn't realize that. Thanks so much! You see, I'm still learning this whole thing. 😀
@@dannyshobbies6784, I would just toss the card back into your next order. Or you can send it to SGC. Good luck!
Good idea. Maybe I'll try SGC. Thanks!
Is express turnaround time impacted or is it all of the service levels
Slightly. My express order took 2 weeks. I think they advertise 10 days, so it's still pretty quick!
So do you take cards from subscribers to submit with ur bulk submissions?
Haven't really gotten into that. I'm pretty new at the whole thing, but maybe I'll start thinking about it!
We obviously all want the coating on the card with that AI.. but I peeled mine off and it came back a 10 after the original submission of it being a 9
Well I sent my back since they ruined it. I'm waiting to see what they decide to do.
Nice returns!!
Hi Danny! New sub here! from Philippines!
Do you have instagram account?
Welcome!!
No Instagram account....yet! Lol. Thanks for watching!
PSA 8 isn't bad but it's not the best grade. You want PSA 9 or PSA 10 grades!
Yeah, I was a little bit disappointed.
Dan - if you want to get a better grade on the AI refactor, you HAVE to take the coating off. They ding you big time for leaving it on. It probably is a 10, once you take it off and clean the smudges.
I'm definitely thinking about doing that. Thanks
I hate how psa is so strict
SGC ROCKS...Vintage are very difficult. Did pretty good for cards over 30 years old
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None of these care are perfectly centered - you cant get a 10
I was just going to make this comment. The centering is one of the first things you need to look at and the Iverson for example is OC enough alone to not get a 10, not taking into consideration any other issues.
What is centered mean im new
According to the PSA Grading Standards, you can still get a 10 with the card having 60/40 centering, which is very noticeable to the naked eye...
It's just personal ...It's not business. :)
Wow complete waste of time and money. I guess 8 is the new 10 at PSA🤬😡
It does appear that way. 😕
You turn a Potential 5 minute video into 20 plus minutes. Just get to the point
dude the reveal was tooooooo damn longgggggg.. had to ff threw video cause dude. i mean dude move it along. .
The new psa sucks