Why Vekoma is the Best Manufacturer

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  • @eliaspage646
    @eliaspage646 2 года назад +31

    As an european, Vekoma new gen is god tier, and honestly, lech coaster beat some rmc. Because like you said all rmc are air time machine but vekoma can make a intensity, airtime and a mix of all types of sensation.

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад +4

      yea, at least they are slowly starting to make their way to america

  • @KnightrideThrillz
    @KnightrideThrillz Год назад +8

    I'd say the only "stereotype" I can think of for Vekoma, personally, is their *masterful* sequencing and transitions. their coasters are extremely satisfying to watch when they go from one element to the next

  • @SwissCoasterEnthusiast
    @SwissCoasterEnthusiast 2 года назад +4

    I had the fortunate opportunity to ride phenomenal coasters. F.L.Y, Hals über Kopf and Colorado Adventure.
    Last week I rode my first Vekoma SLC and I honestly didn't find it to horrible, I found a good technique to avoid the headbanging. The SLC layout is actually awesome and I had a great time. That double Corkscrew is fucking awesome.
    The technique btw. is: Tightly hug the OTSR and move your head forward, this way you can pretty much avoid headbanging and enjoy the ride.
    I also rode an inverted Boomerang and that was also very awesome.
    Vekoma is a great manufacturer and I seriously think they could become a Top 5 manufacturer along with Mack and Gerstlauer.

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад

      surprised you like some of their old stuff, not many people do. Definetly think vekoma has what it takes to be the best (cus they are). :)))

    • @iliketrains3546
      @iliketrains3546 3 месяца назад

      They are definitely a top 5 alongside Mack

  • @randflam
    @randflam 2 года назад +9

    I’ll agree if the vekoma hype keeps up in the next few years! Great video!

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад +3

      i think it will! Thanks again randflam

  • @monfu3783
    @monfu3783 2 года назад +9

    I rode FLY, the newest Flying coaster generation at Phantasialand and it's amazing. That's the unique new gen vekoma I rode, but Lech Coaster or Abyssus look incredible. And I can't wait to see the new gen Tilt coasters in action!

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад

      fly is my number 1 bucket list coaster so im jealous, hopefully I can ride circuit breaker in the coming years!

    • @lillekenatnek195
      @lillekenatnek195 Год назад +1

      I rode it about 2 weeks ago, we had great fun came out with a big smile. Vekoma def checked all boxes there

  • @dougronald561
    @dougronald561 2 года назад +11

    I appreciate a coaster enthusiast who is an independent thinker and doesn’t just regurgitate the same mumbo jumbo everyone else does.

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад +6

      ong, though a lot of people complain, especially about my rmc shit

    • @dougronald561
      @dougronald561 2 года назад +1

      @@RCETown You back up your opinions with details. So I’m open to listening.

    • @dougronald561
      @dougronald561 2 года назад

      @@RCETown Yeah I don’t think most enthusiasts speak logically about RMC. They tend to just get emotional. I’ve complained about their shin guards, heavy restraints, and a lack of a grab bar before. But I’ve even hurt my shoulder before because of the way the seat is designed.

  • @Chaoshero5567
    @Chaoshero5567 Год назад +1

    Man vekome new gen just to perfect, FLY IS AN MASTERPIECE 😊

  • @SamiLB_
    @SamiLB_ 2 года назад +1

    Pre watch opinion: yes! Vekoma packs in an intense, airtime filled experience that anyone can enjoy, and at an affordable price for small parks to look for their standout coaster. Their layouts flow well, pack in airtime and intensity at all the right times and are overall almost perfect.

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад

      this, exactly the point that I am trying to get across in this video :)))))

    • @SamiLB_
      @SamiLB_ 2 года назад

      I forgot to put my post watch opinion: yup exactly what i was saying before. Great video!

  • @CharismaticEmoji
    @CharismaticEmoji 2 года назад +5

    Vekoma isn't my favourite, but I still find it great!

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад

      because they are :)))

  • @filipbyma6130
    @filipbyma6130 Год назад +1

    I agree like vekoma doesn't get enough love.

  • @reneoppenneer9339
    @reneoppenneer9339 7 месяцев назад

    Vekoma has taken the twisty turns from intamin and the smoothness of b&m and created a new image. I'm loving it. Dont forget track designer Benjamin Bloemendaal as a great part of the revival.

  • @AG7-MTM
    @AG7-MTM 2 года назад +2

    YEEESSSS!!!! Vekoma is coming back strong!!

  • @AWalkInTheNE
    @AWalkInTheNE 2 года назад

    I have been on a Vekoma Ride (Velocity at Flamingo land) And the restraints are really comfy there (Search up the POV and u will understand) Its super smooth and such good air time aswell! Good Vid RCE! :)

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад

      Oh cool, good to know! Thx

  • @darkride_enthusiast69420
    @darkride_enthusiast69420 Год назад

    As a dark ride enthusiast, i think vekoma is the best manufacturer because they have a ride called "The Madhouse" which is basically an optical/physical illusion where you are on a swing and the room rotates around you giving the illusion of going upside-down and i practically worship them for their mind bending ride experience.

  • @airbus7373
    @airbus7373 2 года назад

    Unfortunately my only taste of new Vekoma has been Dragonflier, however even with just that family invert, I am extremely impressed with how well rounded that ride is. My GP mom said that it was the perfect balance between family and thrill, and I could not agree more. If their family rides are that good, I can’t wait to see how their new thrill rides play out in the US

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад

      yes, vekoma really does have it all and i cant wait to see their strides torwards america :)

  • @kalcosin8994
    @kalcosin8994 Год назад +1

    Vekoma Slc's were not rough at all it's just the fact that they were high maitnence and parks were lazy.

  • @Rendarthkylo
    @Rendarthkylo 11 месяцев назад +1

    I wouldn't say vekoma is the best but oh my god they are underated

  • @plasmascout9708
    @plasmascout9708 2 года назад

    great video man, I LOVE your vids so much and btw... GREAT editing

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад

      Glad you like them!

  • @launches.loops.and.lapbars
    @launches.loops.and.lapbars Год назад

    1:58 "The other piece of garbage"
    Well... hasn't that just aged like milk! 🤣Jokes aside, nice video dude!

  • @Palmboom313
    @Palmboom313 Год назад

    @1:14 The SLC maybe rough but after 20 / 30 years almost every one is still in operation.

  • @kierancurtis3757
    @kierancurtis3757 2 года назад +1

    vekoma should just build more boomerangs but with the new type of track. then everybody is gonna have a smooth fun experience!

  • @douglaspitcher3560
    @douglaspitcher3560 2 года назад

    Jesus Christ! I just subscribed like three days ago, (I was your 800th btw) and already you’ve got 40 more! Incredible! And I believe Vekoma is one of the best manufacturers too.

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад

      YEAH, thanks for subbing douglas

  • @SignalProcessingWithPaul
    @SignalProcessingWithPaul Год назад

    The new SuperBoomerang though - Vekoma is shitting all over the industry. I don't think I'd be mad about the SuperBoomerang being cloned all over.

  • @theamazing3.036
    @theamazing3.036 6 дней назад

    I can think of a vekoma stereotype : disney coasters

  • @Hangtime_Davi64
    @Hangtime_Davi64 Год назад

    I would like to point out that Vekoma's Flying Dutchman was not copied from B&M. The first Flying Dutchman was built in 2000, while the first B&M Flyer was 2002. They are not referring to the newer versions as Flying Dutchmen, but just Flying Coasters (from looking at their website).

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  Год назад +1

      Oh ok, I know rcdb still lists them as flying Dutchmans. And yea it probably did come before the b&m flying coaster.

    • @Hangtime_Davi64
      @Hangtime_Davi64 Год назад

      @RCE Town that makes sense for RCDB Since Vekoma didn't really give a new name, they just kind of gave it a description. In either case, I just hope one opens up in North America or that I am able to visit Fantasialand because it looks like an amazing ride. I feel the same about their suspended thrill coaster. In general, Vekoma's recent rides look top-tier. We Americans just haven't gotten any outside of Disney and family coasters.

    • @gregzarro1178
      @gregzarro1178 3 месяца назад

      Vekoma copied B&M for the harnesses of their new flyings. And I think they even had an agreement with B&M about that.

  • @pfirsichdrop
    @pfirsichdrop 2 года назад

    I've ridden Hals über Kopf and F.L.Y and they are both great.
    Comparing F.L.Y to Manta (which is the only B&M I have ridden) I prefer the Vekoma version which is one of my favorite coasters overall. While I really enjoy Hals über Kopf, the B&M inverts I have ridden are superior.
    Also I don't quite agree that Vekoma does the most unique Layouts. Of course the flying coaster and STC are unique because they are the only ones that exist at this point. So I don't really think it's fair to compare these to B&M coasters, which have lots of rides of the same type build. I'm sure Vekoma will use similar elements for new rides of these types going forward. Thinking about the sitdown models - they do use mostly similar layouts and elements so I don't really see how they are unique.
    I think Intamin for sure does the most unique Coasters in the Industry. They have so many different types of rides and improve on thinks like for example the train design constantly.
    New Vekoma really is awesome but not quite as unique as this video suggests in my opinion

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад

      I mean yea, intamin is king when it comes to diverse layouts, you can make an argument for mack also. I still think vekoma is really diverse, even with only 1 flying dutchman and 1 stc. When you look at their sit down layouts that they have built/announced, they all look to bring a different experience, and havent reused elements that much. idk maybe its just a me thing :))

  • @maxwu1450
    @maxwu1450 2 года назад

    agreed. as someone who has rode rollercoasters throughout his whole life, there's just something different with Vekoma roller coasters

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад

      bro 💀 (hi max)

    • @lillekenatnek195
      @lillekenatnek195 Год назад

      Idk why people are so negative about them these days. Used to ride a bunch of them in Europe in the 90's and we always enjoyed them.

    • @NYCRP294
      @NYCRP294 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@RCETown not maxhehe just that's me but not me

  • @antonytsai6611
    @antonytsai6611 Год назад

    the thing is the gp like boomerangs and slc's i've heard they run to those rides first because its a gimmick and they don't care about the headbanging as much

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  Год назад +1

      Dude since when? GP care a lot about headbanging… that’s why boomerangs, slcs, and arrows have little ridership

    • @antonytsai6611
      @antonytsai6611 Год назад

      @@RCETown Some still have some lines

  • @pyrobeats5355
    @pyrobeats5355 2 года назад

    vekoma is my fav too my dream job is to design coasters at vekoma

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад

      cool, dont let anyone tell you that that dream is not achievable.

    • @pyrobeats5355
      @pyrobeats5355 2 года назад

      @@RCETown i have that dream since 3th grade i dedicated almost all of my life to it im gonna get there its 50-60 km away from where i live so yea

  • @notsospoopybob
    @notsospoopybob 10 месяцев назад

    ive always said F.L.Y. feels like a similar layout design to galactica, just built 20 years later. they both focus on a similar aspect, but one did it with 20 years more knowledge than the other. im sure if B&M reinvented the flying coaster they could certainly rival vekoma's quality

  • @lessgo5214
    @lessgo5214 2 года назад +2

    Vekoma is the best manufacture! Everyone thinks they make dumb coasters WhIcH aRe RoUgH. Cmon these old vekoma layouts are one of the most greatest ever. Forever Vekoma!

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад

      the old vekoma layouts are good, but they dont track well at all.

    • @lessgo5214
      @lessgo5214 2 года назад

      Look... The SLC's are trash mostly because of the trains... It doesn't matter if it has west restrains or normal over the shoulder restrains plus the roughness because bad track shaping for SLC's... But look at the MK-700, MK-900 or MK-1200. The fault for the MK-1200 Roughness were because of the shitty arrow trains. Look at these Rollercoasters now.
      MK-900 Like Temple of the night hawk (1988) or Vogelrok (1998) Are one of the smoothest rides ever. Also MK-700 like revolution at bobbejaanland (1989). Holy shit that's smooth.
      Everyone just looks to the old MK-1200 and SLC's :(

    • @lessgo5214
      @lessgo5214 2 года назад

      @idkwhattoputhere Boomerangs are litterally MK-1200. And like I said. TRAINS
      Ah and what if we look to Xpress platform 13? Smooth af man... Same model and Train as goudurix except the difference between lifthill and launch.
      You know... Me as a Vekoma Fan I can't describe a vekoma Coaster bad. Some of them are smooth, some rough, some goofy ahh shaped track some very good shaped track... I see how almost every Enthusiast is looking to the rough coasters... And tbh... I don't care if a coaster is rough (except some SLC's (but I love slcs too because good compact layout (but trains are goofy ahh shit))).
      Man idk

  • @Jcoaster95
    @Jcoaster95 2 года назад

    I'm surprised this video doesn't even mention Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind... Or any of the other Disney Vekomas

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад

      yea, i probably should have. In the age of dog water coasters, disney consistently bought from vekoma, and vekoma delivered, because its disney, you have to do good or they will drop you. Thats why vekomas best coasters before the new gen stuff were disney coasters. And yea cosmic rewind looks hella good, but i wouldnt say its a standout of vekomas work, disney just commands them to do everything, and the thing that makes that coaster good, is disneys themeing, so i would say its more disneys work then vekomas

  • @overdramaticpan
    @overdramaticpan 2 года назад

    I don't think they're the best, but they are definitely up there. My 2nd, with Mack being first, RMC 3rd, Intamin 4th, and B&M 5th.

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад

      Mack first, been hearing that a lot lately and just dont really understand why

    • @GhostRider-db2eq
      @GhostRider-db2eq 2 года назад

      @@RCETown 💫ride to happiness💫

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад

      @@GhostRider-db2eq well yea, that and time traver are absolutley insane, the only other real standout i can think of is dc rivals hypercoaster, copperhead strike and helix are good but i wouldnt say elite.

    • @overdramaticpan
      @overdramaticpan 2 года назад +1

      @@RCETown They've got great variety. From hangtime to airtime to pacing, so on and so forth, their rides tend to have everything! I really like their models. I definitely think Vekoma is better, but I do like Mack more. So my opinion is subjective, but the (pretty much) objective fact is that Vekoma is better. (even more variety, more intense, cheaper, etc)

  • @vzs01
    @vzs01 2 года назад

    New gen Vekoma is nice but consider this: Mack made a really big step since Stephan Alt designs the layouts for them.

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад

      ik, for some reason mack just doesnt click well with me (i think it might be the look of the track) however akward it may be it just doesnt hit the heart the way vekoma or rmc does. But mack makes great coasters, I mean look at ride to happiness and DC rivals hypercoaster.

  • @evosioa2944
    @evosioa2944 2 года назад +2

    honest to god cant tell if this man is trolling or not
    also the editor disagreeing with him is comedy gold

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад +1

      honest to god, how is this a troll :/

    • @evosioa2944
      @evosioa2944 2 года назад

      @@RCETown just to me how the edits conflict your points

  • @Tako12
    @Tako12 2 года назад

    All I have to say is “Yes”

  • @samnewcomer1
    @samnewcomer1 Год назад

    i feel like vekomas rides feel more unique than b&m because b&m has made 100s of coasters and vekoma new gens aren’t as common YET.

  • @Jalmaan
    @Jalmaan 2 года назад

    The new vest restraints are awful. I know they're necessary on FLY and Condor but they hurt like hell on my collarbone. I would much prefer Vekoma using a restraint like Intamin or Mack is using on basically all their coasters nowadays. Those lap bars are the best.

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад +1

      yea i can totally see this, I dont mind restraints on b&m coasters so i really want to see how it is on vekoma, (i hate premieres comfort collars and rmcs shoulder straps)

  • @billquincey2898
    @billquincey2898 2 года назад

    I'm gonna cry about it so cry about it

  • @lastone032085
    @lastone032085 2 года назад

    New Vekoma is Intamin Jr.

  • @RavioliGamesRBLX
    @RavioliGamesRBLX 5 месяцев назад

    hals uber kopf is good tho

  • @theamazing3.036
    @theamazing3.036 6 дней назад

    No bolliger and mabillard is the best roller coaster manufacturer

  • @extrakubik4123
    @extrakubik4123 2 года назад

    I think they have better launch coasters than mack rides yes i only was in Europa park and Energylandia so my No.1 launch coaster is Abyssus and that is a lot better than Blue fire becouse it have airtime, cool classic inversions, good launches and it's long and smooth (formule it's the same but shorter)

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад

      yea i can totally see vekoma > mack in the launch department, after all mack gets so much hate for their weak launches. But if you look at something like ride to happiness i dont think its a competition anymore lol

    • @extrakubik4123
      @extrakubik4123 2 года назад

      @@RCETown well yeah i think that extreme spinners are only type that can save them becouse vekoma and intamin both make better launch coasters and mack mega is also really good

  • @oof3397
    @oof3397 Год назад

    I rank it like this:
    1. Intamin
    2. B&M
    3. RMC
    4. Mack Rides
    5. Vekoma

  • @iliketrains3546
    @iliketrains3546 3 месяца назад

    Did my guy… just call flying dinosaur… not GREAT?!

  • @hart4bbq
    @hart4bbq Год назад

    Their old rail type was the problem not te designs . Look at Lech coaster and F.L.Y Vekoma using their improved type of rail.

  • @rollercoastersiguess1341
    @rollercoastersiguess1341 2 года назад

    Intamin sitting in the corner like 💀

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад +1

      get yo reliability up fr

    • @rollercoastersiguess1341
      @rollercoastersiguess1341 2 года назад

      @@RCETown You're acting like Velocicoaster doesn't exist

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад +1

      @@rollercoastersiguess1341 still doesn’t change the fact that their old coasters can’t stay open

    • @rollercoastersiguess1341
      @rollercoastersiguess1341 2 года назад +4

      @@RCETown Still doesn't change the fact that they are some of the greatest coasters in the world

    • @williscockfit1994
      @williscockfit1994 2 года назад +1

      @@RCETown 😂😂😂 what? So now we talkin old coasters? Vekoma new coasters don’t change the fact that they probably have over 100 head banging coasters around the world 💀💀

  • @artoflorizoone7268
    @artoflorizoone7268 2 года назад

    youre a genius now every nerdy dude is gonna comment uhhmm hangtime is gerstlauer not b&m bla bla bla

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад +1

      dude that was a huge error on my part lmao, i just misread the script, the script said "b&m dive coaster or somethign liek hangtime" and i read it as b&m dive coaster like hangtime

  • @JB-fd8jy
    @JB-fd8jy 2 года назад

    I can understand new gen Vekoma being number 1. I personally would give it to Mack rides.
    Reliable Rollercoasters, huge variety, some insane coasters (dc rivals, ride to happiness) and most of them have great capacity

  • @willshimmons6516
    @willshimmons6516 2 года назад

    Vekoma is aight but i prefer most major manufacturers. The new gen vekomas ive ridden are smooth and forceful but the restraints are not good and all their layouts are very similar.

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад

      wdym by their layouts are similar, i think they are one of the most diverse companies up there with intamin

    • @willshimmons6516
      @willshimmons6516 2 года назад

      @@RCETown it's like RMC where once youve ridden one ride you basically know how every other ride will be like. i know you can definitely argue that for other manufacturers too

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад

      @@willshimmons6516 I mean you can say this for every other manufacturer except intamin and mack, but i still dont agree with this point cus vekomas portfolio is way more diverse, and their layouts look all to be very unique, then again i havent ridden a single new gen vekoma, Have you? I am curious to see how they ride.

    • @willshimmons6516
      @willshimmons6516 2 года назад

      @@RCETown yeah ive ridden the new vekomas at energylandia aswell as FLY at phantasia. also done lots of their family coasters and they are good but the restraints on the abyssus and formula arent great and those rides dont offer too many forces. FLY stands out for the fact its launched and the theming is insane.

  • @HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od
    @HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od 11 месяцев назад +1

    Vekoma Being Better Then RMC Intamin B&M GCI Gravity Group Premier Rides Mack Rides CCI Gerstlauer Morgan Or PTC Very Heard To Believe

    • @arturobianco848
      @arturobianco848 9 месяцев назад

      You ever did the new gen vecoma's? They are pretty good ok non of them is Elite altough Lech comes close. I would really like to see them getting an order to build an elite one. Until that time they are pretty much the best overall if you count out the elite coasters. Yes almost all the other ones have one model thats better then an Vekoma but most of there other models are weaker.

  • @jakehorne3548
    @jakehorne3548 2 месяца назад

    The two worst rollercoasters I've EVER ridden

  • @lessgo5214
    @lessgo5214 2 года назад

    03:33 trust me... The launches of fly are THE most weakest launches ive ever experienced

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад

      i believe it, but your still in a flying position

    • @arturobianco848
      @arturobianco848 9 месяцев назад

      @@RCETown Well he is correct about the launches on that one its still the best FLYING coaster i've ever done.

  • @aliensallaroundus1126
    @aliensallaroundus1126 Год назад

    Until they build a giga they cant play with the big boys just yet rven though they make some of the best launch or hyper

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  Год назад

      They don’t need to make a giga coaster to compete? Mack is a great and they haven’t built a giga yet.

  • @benjadinho7
    @benjadinho7 2 года назад

    Vekoma isnt the best manufactuerer but defiently really good

  • @Mannysphotography
    @Mannysphotography 2 года назад

    Vekoma became the best ever since they made fly oh wait no they were always the best psttt

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад

      debatable, but they have been going strong recently

  • @A-aronTI
    @A-aronTI 2 года назад +2

    Idk. Feels a bit naive to rank a manufacturer this high when you haven't ridden a single good ride by them. You're literally just going off of what other people say about new gen vekoma. Vekoma has made some of the worst rides ever... period, and while the few new gen rides I've ridden are elite, it doesn't even come close to repairing the horrible reputation of the majority of their rides. Until they make a few top 5 worthy rides, they aren't even near the best manufacturer. Even if vekoma only made these awesome rides, I feel like manufacturers like Intamin, RMC, and Mack could trump it pretty easy. New gen vekoma really isn't as flawless as you think it is, and even if it was it doesn't make amends for over 100 headache-inducing pieces of shit.

  • @nutsyear
    @nutsyear 2 года назад

    yep true. factually. JOKE ITS AN OPINON. idk what im saying. BRUH MOMENT

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад

      what IS bro saying>?????

  • @roryevans4295
    @roryevans4295 25 дней назад

    Vekoma over B&M is some of the most crack head thoosie opinion I’ve ever heard 😂 maybe their flyer is better than b&m’s but that’s the only typing vekoma wins at

  • @ev7d167
    @ev7d167 2 года назад

    Vekoma ain’t got shit on Golden Horse

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад

      cant tell if ur joking or not lmao

    • @ev7d167
      @ev7d167 2 года назад

      @@RCETown The Vekoma SLC ain’t got shit on he Suspended Roller Coaster XGC-20A 💪

  • @shanepetyko8004
    @shanepetyko8004 7 месяцев назад

    Actually vekoma is suing b and m. For stealing there stand up surf coaster. B and m copies everyone but did it better for so long

  • @cosmicle8417
    @cosmicle8417 2 года назад

    1:59, piece of garbage? more info on why you think that?

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад

      next weeks video 👀

  • @Fiendstein
    @Fiendstein 2 года назад

    I cant stand hanging coasters

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад

      wdym by hanging, like inverted (the track is above you)?

  • @arabianrcetown6940
    @arabianrcetown6940 2 года назад

    Why you copy me

    • @RCETown
      @RCETown  2 года назад

      Why you copy me

  • @wu_SER1
    @wu_SER1 2 года назад

    I disagree