Pokemon Theory: Who Are The Other Two Pallet Town Trainers?
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In episode 25, Ash called Professor Oak to brag about how he had just gotten his fourth badge the previous episode and Oak told him that Gary and the two unidentified Pallot Town trainers had already gotten five badges, including the Rainbow Badge that Ash wouldn't receive until the following episode. To me, that implies that they hadn't given up yet by that point.
They likely hadn't given up until the writers decided they'd served their purpose of being ahead of Ash, and all evidence in the show pointed to them being perfectly competent.
I believe the woman is actually just a *Lass* from the original pokemon games... That's just what I've come across a few times! ^^
MANNY~EmberDim I do too
She is, all you need to do is look at the Lass sprite in gen 1.
+MANNY~EmberDim Most of us who played that 1st game know this, but dont tell the others.
Since she is a mystery it could be the ghost girl in x and y
Proto, the mystery woman reminds me of the girl in s1 ep9, at the school
You are incorrect on when they gave up. In Primeape Goes Bananas, Ash is telling Professor Oak that he just got his 4th badge and Professor Oak tells Ash that all 3 of the other trainers already have 5 badges.
Glad someone pointed this out
Protomario's theories is never late, nor is it early, it arrives precisely when he means to.
With a comment like, my friend, I have this to say. You Shall Pass, cause it was really good.
RIP English
Was that comment aimed towards me? If so, one or two mistakes is not the end of the world. Seriously, stop being a grammar nazi, and fuck off.
Haha there's a tsundere in this comment chain
Not to mention one with 7 names Louise Franscua de blac de la valaire a fucking mouth full
This woman was probably a joke in the Japanese intro. The intro's lyrics support this:
(I'll get you, Pokémon!)
Even if in fire, in water, in grass, in forests
In ground, in clouds, in that girl's skirt (eek!)
Why not do a theory on why Professor Oak only had three Pokemon for four trainers. Pikachu wasn't set to go and Ash had to beg Oak to get Pikachu. Also, why only four trainers? Does each region/town or whatever have a limit on how many kids they can have per year just to make sure that there's only 3 or 4 10 year olds a year?
ProtoMario, thank you for that Pokemon theory. Very well thought out. I have a theory that I would like to see you talk about. Here it is. In order for a trainer to compete in the Pokemon League, they need to win a total of 8 gym badges. Ash was able to acquire all 8 badges in Kanto; however, Gary did not win the Earth Badge from the Viridian City Gym, but managed to get three badges to have 10 badges. Where did Gary go to get a total of 10 badges?
the mistery woman is green... ya know the one who caught the legendary bird trio..
I remember someone saying that the other trainers had atleast 5 badges in season one of the anime.
Melanie implies that Bulbasaur was in the village too long and its growth was thus stunted. This could mean that Bulbasaur was at a lower level, not because it was young, but was held back.
The girl from the manga, can't remember her name, but she was the 3rd unofficial trainer from pallet seeing as she stole her pokedex and squirtle
They said she was based off Lass/ The trainer in the manual. She was supposed to be a playable female character kins of like how we can choose male or female now. The data was soo low they didn't get to implement that until Crystal. Lastly I remember hearing that in the OG Japanese theme there were lyrics that said "You can find Pokémon anywhere even under a girls skirt." Something along those lines with the girl saying "Hey!" While Pikachu ran underneath her.
To be honest, I think the other Pallet Town trainers were anime versions of Green and Yellow. I think it would have been cool if the anime was somewhat influnced by the Pokemon Adventures, Pokemon Zensho, and Pokemon Electric Tales of Pikachu manga
Oh man can't wait for a fallout theory(my favorite game series) so glad that you are taking up the Ballistic Fist/"Shocker" theory!
Proto can you do a theory on where the starter pokemon come from? I mean the only place you can catch them is the friend safari, but that's not really the wild and was introduced in generation 6. So where do the other professors get their starters?
If damian lived in pallet town which is quite small, Ash would have known him when they met. As professor Oak is the regional professor who gives the starter pokemons Damian could have been living in another town, and that he skipped Brook and went to cerulion instead. As in the episode where they meet Damian Brook did not recognise him.
But Proto, Ash is in a coma
It's just a theory dumbass it may not be true
This is a pretty well thoughtout theory! It is clear that you put alot6 of thought into these theories and as a result I think you are easliy one of the more skilled theorist video makers on RUclips.
Keep up the great work on these videos :)
"She was cut so children would not be confused as to who she was".
Sounds ironic to me because with how much the anime breaks continuity, Pikachu's level reseting and somehow forgetting Volt Tackle, Ash forgetting a lot his own tactics/battle style when entering a new region and not seeing his old Pokemon more often, I'm more confused about the anime now than when I first started watching it.
Good ol' Thought stimulating theory videos :D
I always thought that the M.W. was Daisy Oak
what the hell is that sound at 1:20? It's like a snorlax singing a tune
I always thought the "mystery girl" was the girl from the Trainer's school, just given different colors. But I do think your theory on Damien could be possible :)
I'm pretty sure this person was just supposed to be green from the manga. She was a really prominent character and I'm sure she was supposed to make some kind of appearance but just like in the games they cut her due to not finding place for her at the time
i guess the mystery trains were simply put so that ash could train harder maybe? as a challenge or something
Also i dare say her name would be green considering red has the fire type blue has water and green would have leaf. Good old colour coordination.
Proto, the episode where Ash gets his primate Oak states that the three head started trainers had 4 badges and the cut girl in intro was to be Daisy Oak.
Oak does mention the other trainers that were from pallet town one other time in an earlier episode when Ash caught Krabby.
The girl is a just a lass. The japanese theme song originally said something along the line of "follow pokemon anywhere, even under this girl's skirt." something like that more or less
"But yes I am a wizard."
-proto 2015
... Proto, have you never read the lyrics to the first Japanese opening of the anime? -___-
Gary wasn't the first trainer to get his Pokemon, he was the 3rd. The fact that he was the last person to enter the Lab before Ash, and there was only one Pokémon left after he chose his proves this.
After Damien chose his Charmander, Gary grabbed Squirtle to spite him whilst knowing he could have chosen Pikachu instead. It's in Gary's nature to pick the Pokémon which is super effective against the last guy to chose his Pokémon.
ProtoMario The girl was originally created for the original theme song ( or the Japanese pokémon theme song if u prefer ). The lyrics state at the point where this scene was taken '... I will follow u anywhere... up this girls skirt...' u can double check if u don't believe me.
ironically even though ash was the last trainer out of the 4 trainers to leave pallet town he's the only 1 who never quits being a pokemon trainer as stated in both the episode showdown at the poke corral and this video the other 2 trainers besides ash and Gary both quit first due to a lack of skill and as stated by 1 of this videos earlier comments professor oak states to ash in primeapes debut episode that Gary and the other 2 trainers had 5 badges meaning the other 2 trainers at the very least obtained 5 badges before quitting.and after ash defeated Gary in the johto league Gary retires from being a trainer to become a pokemon researcher just like professor oak.
The Girl called "Green" looks like the Trainer in the first Pokemonmovie. She has the same Pokeballnecklace and a Turtose too
Brock and Misty never reacted to have seen Damian before, so if the trainer from Pallet Town defeated the first two or more gyms then at least Brock should know him, right?
Anyhow it's just a theory
proto, that game cover that was supposed to be a reference to the manga, that was green from the manga with the squirtle and blastoise
I believed that the mystery woman was a personified version of Pikachu's voice actress.
Proto Mario? In the japenese version of the translates to "I'll go through flames, floods, weeds, forests, The soil, clouds, and under the skirt of the girl (scream)" So I believe that is where the girl came from. Because of the japenese lyrics translated to English
actually it's stated by oak Gary and the other two trainers had 5 badges
But proto! Ash didnt recognize damien as one of the pallet town trainers
And nurse joy gives out starter pokemon to trainers who doesnt have pokemon proffessor in theyre home town
ProtoMario In Season 1 Episode 25 Prof. Oak tells Ash that all the other trainers had all gotten 5 badges.
Damian isn't one of the kids who picked a starter at pallet town because first ash didn't recognize him(ash was his neighbor for so many years in a small town) and second Brock didn't recognize him (it's proven that he beat the pewter gym and Brock should remember him since it happened so recently).It makes sense that misty didn't recognize him because she wasn't at her gym at that time.
After watching the Japanese opening the girl made a lot of sense to me. She's just a visual that represented the lyrics.
Even if in fire, in water, in grass, in forests
In ground, in clouds, in that girl's skirt (eek!)
The girl was just a random girl put in the opening because of the lyrics.
Finally you tell us you are a wizard! I knew it all along.
Since the manga came first, it could be green. After all the anime (doesn't fell right using that word) was ment to be based of manga, so they decided to cut green early, so they could go their own way. And we all know how that turned out. ^^
so just to get one thing out
in the lyrics of the japanese intro the song starts with where to look for pokemon
under rocks, in bushes and such
and at the part where pikachu is running under that girl it says under a girls skirt (i was confused too)
so i suppose its just some random girl who may or may not had pokemon under her skirt
Huh...I heard somewhere that the "mystery woman" in the intro was Daisy Oak, Gary's sister.
ProtoMario Where do the professors get the starter pokemon from? Are they found in a special area? Or are they bred?
The girl in the intro is NOT a trainer from pallet in the Japanese version of the song it goes 'I'll go through flames,floods, weeds, forests, The soil, clouds, and under girls skirts' and that is when they put her in. feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though.
I have a mini theory on this as well if ash did have Bulbasaur and used him in a battle at the cerulean gym I do believe one of them may have recognized it.
She's Green. Gary is Blue, Ash is Red, and the girl was Green.
the mystery woman in the intro sequence could be an inside easteregg by the creators. Maybe they had an idea they were forced to abandon, could be due to the lack of memory space on the game boy cart or time or money. Let's say they did initially create 2 rivals, one for every pokemon prof. oak had to offer. That third pokeball does look pretty lonely.
+Joshua Armstrong Maybe this mystery girl in the into is the girl in the picture with her hand on the squirtle is just a conceptual thing for promotional stuff? Maybe promo girl was actually just a cut idea for the player to pick their gender? It's probably the former, she was just a filler for promo stuff, like that cool image. The other palette town trainers were probably never even developed at all.
Proto, according to pokemon ashgray. In pallet town there are ashs house, garys house and jacks and jones house? And in the end of victory road the player encounter both of them before the exit of victory road?
I haven't seen the episode in a while but my friend says that the girl trainer was from the mysterious village and it is her that gave ash bulbasaur
Great theory :) I agree, shame the girl never appeared
I remember watching a pokemon theorist do a video on who that girls is but sadly,I can't recall who.I don't remember any of the evidence.Just that he said that it was Daisy Oak,Gary's sister that never made her way into the anime.
Well, i think that the third trainer its a girl named Neesha, who apears in the first pokemon movie, she had a Blastoise nicknamed as ''Shellshocker''
But Gary took Squirtle
I'm a japanese major and the guy saying stuff about the japanese opening is right. Ash sings: "I'll go into the earth, into the clouds, into this girl's skirt..." and then there's a female scream. So there's a big possiblity that she's just there for shits and giggles, cuz' he says あのコのスカート meaning that girl's skirt, no name is used.
The girl in the back of the guide book and in the manga is named blue she is a trainer from pallete town who likes to steal not major crimes more petty like money and stuff she even stole from red once or twice
Gamerboy3351 the girls name is Green not Blue lol
Omar A In the American version of the Manga, you are correct in that she is called Green, but she was named Blue (or whatever the Japanese word for blue is) in the Japanese version.
if you read the pokemon adventure manga the girl is named blue and the other boy is green Omar A
Omar A Here comes the confusingness.
-First released in japan was Red and Green, So the two male characters are called Red and Green (this is why the remakes are red and green, and not red and blue).
-Blue was released in japan much how crystal was released for silver and gold. The girl was then unofficially dubbed as Blue in japan (and thus called that in the manga).
-Pokemon blue was then imported to English but split between two games ( Blue and Red) As the original green was not released having the rival character be named Green made little sense and so was then in the English release changed to Blue.
-Then the manga was released in english. As the rival in english has always been seen as Blue, it made sense to keep that naming convention, and so the female trainer got her name changed from Blue, to green.
- SOOOOOooo. To sum it up, she started off named Blue, and in japan is still called blue. But everywhere else in the world she is called Green.
winnkey I think you mean by "everywhere else in the world," English, French, and German countries... Because the girl is still called Blue and the boy is still called Green in the Korean, Thai, and Chinese translations of the manga, just like it is in Japanese. (Basically, it's a Western / Eastern world naming difference.)
It's Daisy Oak. Gary Oak's sister. She only really appears in the games, however.
her name is green shes from the manga red blue and green also in the manga is a young trainer named yellow
She's talking about the manga, Pokémon Adventures
could be the ghost of mafens peek in the theme
My guess is it was supposed to be another rival, like with red green and blue in Japan had those three characters two guys and one girl called blue.
Been missing the "BUT PROTO" gag
It is confirmed that they did plan on having a female character who was going to be known as green but dropped due to insufficient space, yet they have missingno and that other glitch pokemon that take up a good chunk of the data and Mew who was snuck in last second, and missingno and the other glitch were only put in due to there being extra data, so why could they not fit in the trainer known as green, my guess is they felt she was not needed, and maybe she was planned on being in the shows as well, however like the GS ball she faded from existence and maybe gamefreak just wants us to not know that at one point she did exist just like the GS ball
The girl trainer is named Green in the Japanese of the manga and she's with team rocket now :D
Matt Thomson No...no she isn't.
I say we give a fan nickname to this mystery woman!
I recommend "Maria", "Jenine" or "Virginia".
I read somewhere that the girl from the intro is actually the same girl who gives you the map in the first generation
It's the female trainer which you can choose instead of Red in FireRed/LeafGreen.
dah nostalgia. yes all my younger years and now i always wonder who was that girl in the intro. Just though it was a just a random stranger that pikachu can run under lol.
That girl is Daisy Oak, Gary Oak's sister, as shown in the Manga.
i believe that maybe that that girl is ashes mom when she was younger and the other is ashes dad.They may have been trainors but stopped when they fell in love and had ash
I never gave that woman any thought.... nice work in here Proto. :)
well, the anime breaks game rules--all the squirtle--probably is wild bulbasaur (remember the episode where Bulbasaur refuses to evolve). But it could be. That's the main thing about this theory: it could be.
Its a yearly proto type drawing of lass/Giselle from the ep school of hard knocks :( srry dude they discussed in a YTV interview that a lot of the characters from the first 20 or so ep got completely redrawn and even re-shaded in the Eng dub and that ep falls within that zone so nope but I think your right about the other dude.
Did you say the fallout ballistic glove is real? Are you going to talk about the OSS gun glove that was used during WWII?
I really miss this type of videos
in the episode primeape goes bananas oak says that ash should 5 badges like the other pallet town. I believe the other trainers were turned to dolls by Sabrina then gave up pokemon
She kinda looks like Toko... but sort of has the innocent look of Rosa...
In the Gen 5 games did they/you move to Unova from another region?
Or maybe it's an early version of Leaf!
Hey I posted this kinda late on a pass video so don't know if you looked at it but I was wondering what happen to your trainer in pokemon black and white meaning in black and white 2 cheren and the other girl was there but it never explained what happen to the other one your trainer problem is there is almost no information to make this into a theory but it's worth a shot maybe
Er, there are wild bulbasaur in that episode with the garden loads of bulbasaurs are evolving at once. I don't think Damian is the other trainer because when ash caught his seventh Pokemon it automatically transported to oaks lab. If he was one of the four he couldn't have had all those Pokemon at once
What about the 2 mystery women were replaced by Brock and Misty accompanying Ash? It DOES explain their similar artwork design and accompany Ash
New Pokemon Theory Idea!: Is Flint Brock's Dad?
the sinnoh elite five member?
Just a quick thought: Could trainer #3 be Leaf?
But Proto! What happened to the Squirtle Ash caught? How did it end up there?
Doesn't Damian say "I'm the one that caught it" in reference to charmander? Implying that it was this starter
That trainer could been Pikachu's ritual trainer
well, if Ash's Bulbasaur and Charmander were released by the mystery woman and Damian, respectively, wouldn't Oak recognize the Pokemon? and they would certainly be able to recognize him, don't you think?
Did you not even try googling who she was before dismissing her as ''mystery woman''? Pretty sure it's just some random person that was never meant to be somebody, but whose existence was still necessary thanks to the lyrics of the Japanese theme song. The line went something like: Where will I find my next Pokemon? The mountains, the ocean, the forest, under that girl's skirt?
I would love a theory on how Gary defeated Sabrina :)
Isnt the girl from the intro giselle? O.o
blue/green the girl is from the manga and she was also meant for the game but was cut do to the games memory not it being confusing. not trying to be mean so sorry if you saw this that way
One I'm sure everyone asks: Why can you never catch any of the three starter pokemon within the region you're given them? Gameplay-wise you obviously don't want people just catching the other two starters within the same game, but what is the in-world explanation for why beginning traders only ever get imported, exotic pokemon?
The first girl that appears is just a Lass from Fire Red, coincidence because both are based generation 1. To be honest the girl looks more like the Lass from pokemon stadium because both have a (tie) (Scarf) not sure what she's wearing,
I assumed that the third trainer was the female pick is FR and LG
Or Green from the manga!! She had a blastoise!!
I think that the other two trainers are red and green ( female protagonist ) and this is some alternate universe where red sucks really bad so he never made it on to become the legend that we all know him as
I don't think Damien was one of the other trainers. I just feel that since pallet town is depicted as a small place everyone knows everyone and if Damien was from pallet town ash would know who he was at least when they met up.
The pokemon itself is the story inside the mind of the girl.