I was a team commander ( corporal ) in afghan and we had a young second lieutenant take over our multiple halfway through our tour and he was fantastic, he listened to the ncos and the men and we guided him and respected him and is now a company commander in my old battalion, this second lieutenant is going about it all wrong, instead of using his blokes experience to help him he is just isolating himself and quite frankly is a grade one bell end !!!
Couldn’t agree more. He’s displaying the Lions Lead by Donkeys technique. You can’t learn experience and specific knowledge of the scenario your in. He’s ignoring the wealth of knowledge and also loosing respect that pulls the group together. I bet he’s embarrassed this is on RUclips. They don’t teach common sense at Sand Hurst . Thanks for serving the country. I hope your doing good these days. The best guy’s I’ve worked with, who are motivated clean and good team players have all been ex forces.
Anyone else get the feeling that if he'd been around in the second world war that 2nd Lt is exactly the type to have his platoon attack a machine gun head on.
Nah the senior NCO's would make sure he got a posthumous medal for a single handed charge on a machine gun post: Shooting wank officers in war happens more often that you think and the Senior NCOs take care of their men, they would not let a drip like this lead them to their deaths. They would try and make him listen. If he didn’t they would make sure he would listen to angel harps. I know for a fact this happened in WWII and the Falkland's.
@Jaime D To be a Walter you need to claim to have been in battles or regiments you have not. Use your brain on how I could have got this information without actually being there! I have spoken to a number of soldiers from WWII, more than one claimed that they slotted shit officers. I hated the officers I was not in the paras or the Marines or the commandos, or have a million medals. I was in the late 1980s the soft end I was not in any wars but I was able to talk to a lot of veterans. The officer class system is wrong. Its the NCOs and squaddies on the ground that make the British army, not these hoorah henry reading Tatler who look down on everyone. Also in the Falklands War the Welsh Guards a regiment I was not in but close to got burned alive on a ship by a moron Rupert who despite of seeing all the air attacks on docked ships desired to leave the Welsh guards docked on The Sir Galahad. Many others pleaded with him to take them off as it would take around 20 minutes. But this prick would have none of it and the result was 48 men were killed many burned alive and were not killed by the initial blast . ALL BECAUSE of a stupid Rupert!
That's the job of an infantry soldier! To close with and kill the enemy! Get suppressive fire down and fire and manoeuvre yourself to within grenade range, lob a few in, wait for the bangs then bayonet fuck out of young Fritz and Heinrich on their mg40!
@@sixbells99 What rooopey roop roop Rupert? Are you on about the brig? You definitely sound like a hat that got binned before boys were allowed to be good good friends! Sorry for being a bit harsh!
@@keithpringle3940 Ah I'm a hat now! Don't tell me your a para! Of course!! how could I tell After P company did you pass your underwater knife fighting course? I don't know how many Walters I meet on here they always start saying there were in paras! Or start on about "hats" as if some how only they only know what that means! The class system is shit and it puked out a load of nob head officers! Most of the ones I knew about I hated. But of course your SAS, Commando space submarine unit had only the best officers :)
Allowing a film crew out with an inexperienced officer ,talking about your officer or s/ncos ,j/ncos behind their back or on camera a no no ,Command of a unit apart from taxing can be a lonely position ,when not working as a team,Ive experienced arrogant inexperienced officers in my time ,equally those who wont or cant listen to advice ,A lso s/j ncos who should not be in the "front line" ,in general i enjoyed my 18 years in the military many lows and loss of comrades ,but as an experience never regretted my service ,in my own quiet proud memories.Only veterans on reflection will acknowledge this.
Question is was this another privileged incompetent young officer, like we both know, who didn't take "direction". Rife across the entire Army, almost a certainty within the Guards Division
As a trained manager, I’m shocked that he wasn’t taught to listen. To those with more experience . It’s like they are showing him the cards of the opposing player and he’s going out of his way to ignore. I just hope he’s changed his attitude and grown into a better manager. I’m from the food industry, we loose money from bad management . In his industry you loose lives.
I saw this series in 1997 . I enjoyed it and was happy to find it on RUclips LT Bruce Macinnes eventually left the army and went on to become an entrepreneur buying and revamping businesses . So he did go on to do that . However I got the impression he really didn’t want to be in the army long term . Odd
The first born sons inherit the estate and the second son becomes an officer! The remaining sons are just idiot kids that spend their lives on "gap year"! I joined up in 97 no wonder I missed this when it was on the telly!
Banner tours and patrols were a ball ache. Besides the obvious risks, the privations and living conditions could be soul-destroying if you let them. Command is a steep learning curve but junior commanders get on better when they're accepted in the team; one of the boys on downtime; 'in command' when it matters. The buddy buddy principle never stops. This 2nd Lt was dropped in the shit and had to learn fast; he's got big responsibilities including keeping his troops safe. That means empathy, Army discipline, and good sense in camp and out on the ground. Setting examples on basic drills, like weapon cleaning, and batteries for comms. Unfortunately there's no quick recipe and we don't know how this guy developed.
Left the regiment as a Company OC a couple of years after this was filmed & went to work in the City, where he had a successful career in corporate finance
2 multiples in a platoon , a lot of the Pl commanders failings could have been gripped by the Pl Sgt or the multiple 2ic...A poor Pl Commander is a failing on the Sgt....guide him , mentor him , teach him , accompany him on a few patrols and watch him operate....he who is a fool and knows not that he is a fool shun him , he who knows he's a fool , guide him...
If those radios were anything like the ones we had in the RAF they were absolutely crap. We stopped using the charger units once the battery was 'charged' because they had a tendency to overheat or drain the batteries. The officer should have made sure they had serviceable spares.
My first deployment was my troopy's first deployment too. He was just as bad. One day we're all ready to go into briefing for Ardoyne and had to go wake him up. Give him his dues, come the second tour it was a very different story. He's Lt Col now.
His families status. I read John Peels life story. He said he failed the entrance exam for his public school. But because his dad and grandad had attended they let him in. The upper classes send their children to Sand hurst . The gays ones to the clergy,
I was commissioned at 28 years of Age I had experience of Life which helped me understand the guys who I worked with This Officer Lacks experience of life and it shows I don't think any officer should be commissioned before the age of 25 Solders give an officer respect after he has earned it I hope I never like this guy But there again I was not in the Guards thank god
Just because this officer talks posh/and is well educated doesn't mean he has any commom sense,not checking his radio properly could have put soldiers lives at risk.He is working with experienced nco's who no doubt have done previous tours of northern ireland so he needs to gain experience off these guys and wind his neck in.He needs to work with his men and not against them to gain respect, although it does seem he has been chucked in at the deep end being the only Rupert at his location.Maybe he will gain valuable experience off his tour and become a better officer as he goes along his way....
Diablo 2 Elite pvp guides They are doing a search idiot, there are orbital patrols protecting them, so noise discipline is not a priority, by the way how did we lose the war exactly when the IRA failed in their objective of a united Ireland.........fuck off back to call of duty kid.
This is why proper pcc/ppi is absolutely important. Always check all equipment before you leave the wire, check it twice. I know this guy is young and that I appreciate however in all honesty he's making me a bit nervous. It's almost surreal how inexperienced he is.
Funny thing is Mr MacInnes has probably been aware of this vid on RUclips for quite some and likely feels like throwing his mobile at the wall every time he reads the comments, Guards ego.....
YES,i picked that Q up from reporter,, if not for the camera the farmer would have showed up her crass , stupid, lack of nous knowledge, by a cutting reply.
Hahaha crowbag 1 pip wonder taking his Cougar out instead of his SMT.....surprised they let him have a radio. Needs to stop standing by the Sifter guy, he might get comms then 😂
The class barrier is always present. He didn't go to toff school so he'd have to take advice from chaps with regional accents & grubby fingernails. "are we keeping the peace sir?" "Well what do you think?" "I'd throw stones at a dozen squaddies in my farm if it were me sir". The crown making these decent lads maintain the status quo is sad. They were misled, there was never gonna be any glory in a petty civil war - by taking up arms in a foreign land, expect keen resistance. We will have a UI despites all the tragedies. Most of these lads just needed a job... desperately.
That Officer was done a disservice, he should have been taken aside and gripped by the Corporals and Stripey. He would have been seriously gripped had he been in the RM. Its the Troop Stripeys job to school these young inexperienced officers.
well we can all agree that the 2nd Lt is not the Best! lol... Judging by the Comments (Which I agree with! waste of skin.) However the Captain is the opposite is a good officer well liked and knows what he's about!
I disagree with this. In 92 we had a one pip wonder straight from the factory.... He would issue commands, but he'd listen if an NCO said there were other ways.... At the end of the day it's down to pro-active NCOs and Guardsmen.
All brand new, just out of the box Lieutenants need help from the senior NCO's in the Company and those in the individual platoons, thats the only way they will learn how to be a decent platoon or troop Commander.
Nobody is born a soldier let alone an officer, Sandhurst training is only teaching you the basics of soldiering. And you only really learn when you go to battalion when you are working with experienced nco,s and officers . This guy is meant to look like a prick but he must learn by his mistakes .
Man these guys are not trained well, they are yelling on patrol, rookies need to stay quiet on patrol no noise disiplin and stumbling through woods bunch of fool ganna get abushed
Those Brits never ever learned, from the North of Ireland to Iraq to Afghanistan. In the end, they all went home with the tail between their legs having lost multiple men…and all for what? Spread of colonialism & Empire? These expeditions into other counties were a complete waste of time.
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I was a team commander ( corporal ) in afghan and we had a young second lieutenant take over our multiple halfway through our tour and he was fantastic, he listened to the ncos and the men and we guided him and respected him and is now a company commander in my old battalion, this second lieutenant is going about it all wrong, instead of using his blokes experience to help him he is just isolating himself and quite frankly is a grade one bell end !!!
Thats true .
Couldn’t agree more. He’s displaying the Lions Lead by Donkeys technique. You can’t learn experience and specific knowledge of the scenario your in. He’s ignoring the wealth of knowledge and also loosing respect that pulls the group together. I bet he’s embarrassed this is on RUclips. They don’t teach common sense at Sand Hurst . Thanks for serving the country. I hope your doing good these days. The best guy’s I’ve worked with, who are motivated clean and good team players have all been ex forces.
With all due respect Sir, you're a plank! Love it! The Welsh lads seem a great bunch, relaxed and having a laugh, but professional attitude.
"Do you have a spare battery?"
"Yes sir, and no you can't have it dipshit" (in his head lol)
A new officer to a small command? Someone swapped his baaeies before he went out.. they've set him up.
Anyone else get the feeling that if he'd been around in the second world war that 2nd Lt is exactly the type to have his platoon attack a machine gun head on.
Nah the senior NCO's would make sure he got a posthumous medal for a single handed charge on a machine gun post: Shooting wank officers in war happens more often that you think and the Senior NCOs take care of their men, they would not let a drip like this lead them to their deaths. They would try and make him listen. If he didn’t they would make sure he would listen to angel harps. I know for a fact this happened in WWII and the Falkland's.
@Jaime D To be a Walter you need to claim to have been in battles or regiments you have not. Use your brain on how I could have got this information without actually being there! I have spoken to a number of soldiers from WWII, more than one claimed that they slotted shit officers. I hated the officers I was not in the paras or the Marines or the commandos, or have a million medals. I was in the late 1980s the soft end I was not in any wars but I was able to talk to a lot of veterans. The officer class system is wrong. Its the NCOs and squaddies on the ground that make the British army, not these hoorah henry reading Tatler who look down on everyone. Also in the Falklands War the Welsh Guards a regiment I was not in but close to got burned alive on a ship by a moron Rupert who despite of seeing all the air attacks on docked ships desired to leave the Welsh guards docked on The Sir Galahad. Many others pleaded with him to take them off as it would take around 20 minutes. But this prick would have none of it and the result was 48 men were killed many burned alive and were not killed by the initial blast . ALL BECAUSE of a stupid Rupert!
That's the job of an infantry soldier! To close with and kill the enemy! Get suppressive fire down and fire and manoeuvre yourself to within grenade range, lob a few in, wait for the bangs then bayonet fuck out of young Fritz and Heinrich on their mg40!
@@sixbells99 What rooopey roop roop Rupert? Are you on about the brig? You definitely sound like a hat that got binned before boys were allowed to be good good friends! Sorry for being a bit harsh!
@@keithpringle3940 Ah I'm a hat now! Don't tell me your a para! Of course!! how could I tell After P company did you pass your underwater knife fighting course? I don't know how many Walters I meet on here they always start saying there were in paras! Or start on about "hats" as if some how only they only know what that means! The class system is shit and it puked out a load of nob head officers! Most of the ones I knew about I hated. But of course your SAS, Commando space submarine unit had only the best officers :)
The Lt. left the Army a captain in 1996 as a captain. He then became director at Deutsche Bank...
Allowing a film crew out with an inexperienced officer ,talking about your officer or s/ncos ,j/ncos behind their back or on camera a no no ,Command of a unit apart from taxing can be a lonely position ,when not working as a team,Ive experienced arrogant inexperienced officers in my time ,equally those who wont or cant listen to advice ,A
lso s/j ncos who should not be in the "front line" ,in general i enjoyed my 18 years in the military many lows and loss of comrades ,but as an experience never regretted my service ,in my own quiet proud memories.Only veterans on reflection will acknowledge this.
Here here
Yup!
Question is was this another privileged incompetent young officer, like we both know, who didn't take "direction". Rife across the entire Army, almost a certainty within the Guards Division
As a trained manager, I’m shocked that he wasn’t taught to listen. To those with more experience . It’s like they are showing him the cards of the opposing player and he’s going out of his way to ignore. I just hope he’s changed his attitude and grown into a better manager. I’m from the food industry, we loose money from bad management . In his industry you loose lives.
I saw this series in 1997 . I enjoyed it and was happy to find it on RUclips LT Bruce Macinnes eventually left the army and went on to become an entrepreneur buying and revamping businesses . So he did go on to do that . However I got the impression he really didn’t want to be in the army long term . Odd
He went into banking and finance you ballbag.
The first born sons inherit the estate and the second son becomes an officer! The remaining sons are just idiot kids that spend their lives on "gap year"! I joined up in 97 no wonder I missed this when it was on the telly!
@@mcalax5901 What's banking and finance?
Banner tours and patrols were a ball ache. Besides the obvious risks, the privations and living conditions could be soul-destroying if you let them. Command is a steep learning curve but junior commanders get on better when they're accepted in the team; one of the boys on downtime; 'in command' when it matters. The buddy buddy principle never stops. This 2nd Lt was dropped in the shit and had to learn fast; he's got big responsibilities including keeping his troops safe. That means empathy, Army discipline, and good sense in camp and out on the ground. Setting examples on basic drills, like weapon cleaning, and batteries for comms. Unfortunately there's no quick recipe and we don't know how this guy developed.
Left the regiment as a Company OC a couple of years after this was filmed & went to work in the City, where he had a successful career in corporate finance
Watching this , seeing that two Welsh Guards have since passed away
Capt Reece was my Plt commander great officer and a gentleman
He lived in Brussels many years, not shure if he is still there
That Rupert that couldn’t be arsed to pick up the right batteries was horrendous bless him
2 multiples in a platoon , a lot of the Pl commanders failings could have been gripped by the Pl Sgt or the multiple 2ic...A poor Pl Commander is a failing on the Sgt....guide him , mentor him , teach him , accompany him on a few patrols and watch him operate....he who is a fool and knows not that he is a fool shun him , he who knows he's a fool , guide him...
I wonder what has become of all the guardsmen?
What do they do? Where do they live? Who is still alive?
If those radios were anything like the ones we had in the RAF they were absolutely crap. We stopped using the charger units once the battery was 'charged' because they had a tendency to overheat or drain the batteries. The officer should have made sure they had serviceable spares.
My first deployment was my troopy's first deployment too. He was just as bad. One day we're all ready to go into briefing for Ardoyne and had to go wake him up.
Give him his dues, come the second tour it was a very different story. He's Lt Col now.
24 years later he made half colonel! Not bad!
The officer is soft and indecisive. Can't imagine how he got the role.
@stanly stud Your regiment?
He is probably the umpteenth generation officer in the British Army.
His families status. I read John Peels life story. He said he failed the entrance exam for his public school. But because his dad and grandad had attended they let him in. The upper classes send their children to Sand hurst . The gays ones to the clergy,
@@Oooo-bi7bi . The gay ones to the clergy, - Or the Navy
Typical officer, kit all over the place, can’t even get his chin strap in the right place lol
I was commissioned at 28 years of Age I had experience of Life which helped me understand the guys who I worked with This Officer Lacks experience of life and it shows I don't think any officer should be commissioned before the age of 25 Solders give an officer respect after he has earned it I hope I never like this guy But there again I was not in the Guards thank god
Guards officers have to have one major attribute...Money.
The Lieutenant is currently giving rides on Blackpool beach. He was transferred from the military into children’s entertainment.
Must have been a really dangerous point in the patrol for a film team having convos oh yeah it's a Rupert in no danger
2lt reminds me of will from the inbetweeners
Just because this officer talks posh/and is well educated doesn't mean he has any commom sense,not checking his radio properly could have put soldiers lives at risk.He is working with experienced nco's who no doubt have done previous tours of northern ireland so he needs to gain experience off these guys and wind his neck in.He needs to work with his men and not against them to gain respect, although it does seem he has been chucked in at the deep end being the only Rupert at his location.Maybe he will gain valuable experience off his tour and become a better officer as he goes along his way....
On patrol with broken comms hope he does not get a contact.
Keep em away from maps and radios!
Tony Pennington yeah notice how they have very bad noise disiplin while on patrol god damn no wonder they lost the war
A Guards Rupert? Common sense & intelligence? There's a dichotomy!
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They are doing a search idiot, there are orbital patrols protecting them, so noise discipline is not a priority, by the way how did we lose the war exactly when the IRA failed in their objective of a united Ireland.........fuck off back to call of duty kid.
whats Lee Mack doing at 17:39?
Officer reminds me of when Monty Python did camp drill...those hand movements at the start bloody helllll
thanks for uploading. I seem to remember and episode when they were getting ready for a parade and rehearsing in scarlet tunics, do you have that one
The 2nd Lt is a complete knob, anybody with even a slight bit of intelligence would have checked the batteries before leaving the barracks. FFS!
He's doing his best, and will improve...
I would imagine he did and they worked. You cannot tell if a battery is low.
This is why proper pcc/ppi is absolutely important. Always check all equipment before you leave the wire, check it twice. I know this guy is young and that I appreciate however in all honesty he's making me a bit nervous. It's almost surreal how inexperienced he is.
2 is 1, and 1 is none. You always carry spares.
Funny thing is Mr MacInnes has probably been aware of this vid on RUclips for quite some and likely feels like throwing his mobile at the wall every time he reads the comments, Guards ego.....
That was the past now ill build my future
The Lieutenant is currently giving rides on Blackpool beach.
Roy counting to 10 in German was funny
they got shoulder loops, didn't think like that. i guess they wear it on the front chest now.
10:28 is that big Phil Campion?
yep, back when Phil was COP 2 PWRR, if you know, you know.
The Rupert was a kong in this instance.
oh my sa80 jammed again sir alright well get it fixed with some super glue itll do until hk can take a look at it william
Why did you buy a farm on the border? ‘We was here long before this border’.
YES,i picked that Q up from reporter,, if not for the camera the farmer would have showed up her crass , stupid, lack of nous knowledge, by a cutting reply.
SLAP irish will smith
How the hell are they not to standed? When you go through 24 weeks of a right bastard of basic training?
Is there a Part 3?
Own op to it sir, you haven’t charged your batteries have you ??
My father was an officer, rupers are fantastic at telling people what they have done wrong and not very good at admiting to it.
That's the type of conversation a corporal or sergeant would've had with a private if he'd screwed up lmfao a company paid for by mummy and daddy
Anyone know if there's a Part 3 of this ?
Hahaha crowbag 1 pip wonder taking his Cougar out instead of his SMT.....surprised they let him have a radio. Needs to stop standing by the Sifter guy, he might get comms then 😂
Got a spare battery for an Ericsson?
Rem doing it exactley like this
That officer is pretty terrible. The lads do not help him though.
Because they have no confidence in him, or respect for him, dangerous combination.
They won’t,the NCOs will,if he will listen.
The class barrier is always present. He didn't go to toff school so he'd have to take advice from chaps with regional accents & grubby fingernails.
"are we keeping the peace sir?" "Well what do you think?" "I'd throw stones at a dozen squaddies in my farm if it were me sir".
The crown making these decent lads maintain the status quo is sad. They were misled, there was never gonna be any glory in a petty civil war - by taking up arms in a foreign land, expect keen resistance. We will have a UI despites all the tragedies. Most of these lads just needed a job... desperately.
He's going to learn. One way or the other.
That Officer was done a disservice, he should have been taken aside and gripped by the Corporals and Stripey. He would have been seriously gripped had he been in the RM. Its the Troop Stripeys job to school these young inexperienced officers.
My god, who would want to be led by this individual?
What a gormless plum
well we can all agree that the 2nd Lt is not the Best! lol... Judging by the Comments (Which I agree with! waste of skin.) However the Captain is the opposite is a good officer well liked and knows what he's about!
Confused by a flat battery ? What did they teach them at Sandhurst ? What a nob .
I wonder if he ever made CO?
I disagree with this. In 92 we had a one pip wonder straight from the factory.... He would issue commands, but he'd listen if an NCO said there were other ways.... At the end of the day it's down to pro-active NCOs and Guardsmen.
Officers! So clueless. No doubt he failed to recharge the batteries. :)
All brand new, just out of the box Lieutenants need help from the senior NCO's in the Company and those in the individual platoons, thats the only way they will learn how to be a decent platoon or troop Commander.
Nobody is born a soldier let alone an officer, Sandhurst training is only teaching you the basics of soldiering. And you only really learn when you go to battalion when you are working with experienced nco,s and officers . This guy is meant to look like a prick but he must learn by his mistakes .
Rorke's Drift...
@kustjagara Ok
2:10. It means you majorly dropped a bollock. Putting your guys at risk. Nothing worse than a new officer.
Pressing the Pressel on the Radio every five seconds doesn't suddenly charge the Batteries you clown!
I wouldn't have followed this muppet as far as the NAAFI FFS!!
What a comment why did you buy a farm on the border 🤦🤦
Got a spare battery for an Ericsson...aha
Should have took a Nokia 3310 battery.
They’re around 60 years old Jesus Christ
The novice seems untrained
Big Phil 10:38
A bit wet.
Having said that... If NCOs had that attitude around me.... Their lives would get a lot less pleasant. Quickly.
that rupert was a shitshow.
The way they put that face paint on. Is a joke
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Man these guys are not trained well, they are yelling on patrol, rookies need to stay quiet on patrol no noise disiplin and stumbling through woods bunch of fool ganna get abushed
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He's watched the crying game 20 times
james smith I think you’ll find he’s played every CoD game on veteran difficulty!
Those Brits never ever learned, from the North of Ireland to Iraq to Afghanistan. In the end, they all went home with the tail between their legs having lost multiple men…and all for what? Spread of colonialism & Empire? These expeditions into other counties were a complete waste of time.
North of Ireland?
I rarely go.
But as a Brit, I live in Northern Ireland 🇬🇧
@@geordiewishart1683 Yeah, geographically it’s still the north of the island of Ireland you fucking clown.