After watching DankPods, I can't call it Cash Converters anymore, just Cashies. However, this PC sure is an interesting example of how PC's were built by mix and matching components back in the day.
Oh He found it at cashies mate Where you can find your dreams They’ve got Wares And Chairs And a Bug downstairs And clubs And tubs And a hat for scrubs And out of date movies So Get on down to cashies mate You know it’ll change your life So get off the floor, head out the door Forget eBay they’ll charge you more And lose your life at cashies Mate
@@RandomGaminginHD oh that was a real moment. You're turning into Jimmy Carr with these lines. Nothing I can say can change things but it looks like you're doing well, you live in a good place, you're smart and knowledgeable and enjoy what you're doing. You're likable. Life throws up bad things but the sun always comes up tomorrow, and you'll always have witty jokes in your videos :-)
my uncle has an old build around the same era, a VERY HIGH END athlon 64 x2 from 2007 with 8800GT in it. i upgraded it back in 2017 for him with some cheap DDR2 2G rams (the board was good, can take 4 sticks) and installed windows 10 so he can use it as a home system to play cartoons for his kids. i still remember back in the days i drooled on his PC as a kid and watched him play all the newest title in his room(now mine LOL, he moved next door after marriage). man, this really brings up memories! can't feel the same today.
Do not install Win 10, as it had bad support for these MB and CPUs , especially with latest updates. Stick to Win 7, have some decent anti-virus software and there you go.
My uncle had a similar pc back in the day too. I remember a few months after Windows 7 came out and watched him upgrade from Vista to 7. Me and my cousin everytime we visited used to watch RUclips videos like the annoying orange or the piano cat on that computer. He might still have it, but he's likely either given it away or scrapped it
The X6 1090t is one of my favourite CPU's of all time. They will regularly hit 4ghz all core overclock with ease (I had mine at 4.1ghz) but the key to unlocking the gaming performance especially 1% lows (IIRC) was to overclock the HT link to around 2200mhz and the Northbridge to about 2600mhz (I think mine hit 2800mhz but there's a sweet spot), because this directly affects the L3 cache latency which is heavily used in games. Back in 2011, right before I jumped to Sandy Bridge with an i5 2500k, this CPU was a fantastic EOL swansong for the AM3 platform.
The CPU-NB sweetspot is actually closer to 3GHz if you can squeeze it. Up to 1.45v is considered perfectly safe on CPU-NB voltage. Up to 1.55v is considered perfectly safe on CPU vcore. I've got my 1100T at 4.2GHz, 1.60v with 3GHz CPU-NB, 1.50v paired with a HD7970. Using a 240mm AIO on it, it never exceeds about 62*C load, so its fine. Other than a few titles complaining about lack of instructions, it still games perfectly fine if you consider its age. I'll bet RDR2 would play fine if it would actually launch for example. Definitely CPU bottlenecked in some titles, but that's to be expected. It does actually PLAY games still though.
Wow, I never considered bumping up the HT link/NB for cache latency. Been using my newer rig for software development as of late so been keeping the games off it. Was just using my old 1090t with ASUS crosshair iv, gtx 660 ti, and ssd earlier today to play Borderlands 3 which runs surprisingly well on medium settings for such a chunky game (50-60fps occasional brief stutter). Crosshair iv is a great board for overclocking and the 6 cores saves it for UE4 titles that need some place to do the asset streaming. Wish it had up to SSE4.2 for Apex Legends tho. Still my middle school self would have never guessed that thing would still be gaming in the 2020's. Definitely trying that HT link and NB OC.
@@pio80085 Actually there is a fix that makes almost every game run without these instructions for example im now 50% at god of war 4 which requires those 4.2sse instructions and it runs amazingly well gtx 1050ti p2x6 1090t oc'd to 3.8ghz nb to 2600mhz ht to 2200mhz : mix of high and original at 1080p fsr ultra quality 40-50fps very nice and playable experience 🔥, very impressive considering the cpu is over a decade old at this point !
@@RandomGaminginHD Surprised that pc still worked with that ace powersupply, they were terrible quality wise, like diablotek, or xilence (which killed not one but TWO graphics cards in a cousins pc first & then later when i tested it years later.) which im very certain it is just a rebranded xilence 600w (more like 250w) powersupply. That in one model under the same brandname failed the EU electrical safety standards, which is pretty damn bad considering all the china crap that makes it into this country anyway... So they weren't even able too be sold anywhere across the entire lineup in Europe. Though it's not as bad as Hantol powersupplies... Where a pfc coil was fake & literally just a block of cement. I'm not joking, search it up on images and you'll see it.
@@RandomGaminginHD "nearly done..... It'll start moving again soon..... Just got to wait for a few minutes..... How long has it been stuck on 88% now? Oh it just moved, nearly there..... I'll make tea..... I'll start dinner....facking heck! Come on!..... Power button."
For an older system like this, I'm very curious about how a Linux install would perform. It's certainly a lot more lightweight than Windows 10 and gaming performance more than rivals Windows with the new Steam Proton support.
Cant wait for the updates on this! My previous gaming pc has the same CPU, but an AM3 board, 8GB ram and a GTX 1050 so Im curious to see how you'll be getting the most out of it. I know I would like to get mine to overclock, but Id need another motherboard as I cant overclock on it... Keep up the great content
Once upon a time , that was my dream case. I miss those old cases with a door to cover the ODD components. I actually still use my ODD, .... occasionally. I'm currently using an old Dell case that I've swapped newer components into and having the oem front I/O capabilities is quite handy.
@@IvanIvanov-ni4rs lol your the type of customer they want, blind fools who throw thier money at them while chanting that they grovel to a company because something is 3-5% better in some cases
3:45 it’s due to the fact that phenom II cpus have both a DDR2 _and_ DDR3 memory controller on the die, and since am3 cpus are physically compatible with am2+, it allowed am2+ users to upgrade to a new generation without changing boards
Yup, it was possible to go from A64 X2/DDR2/AM2 all the way to FX/DDR3/AM3+ without ever having to make a completely new build. Each CPU was either capable to run on multiple sockets or the board allowed for different CPUs.
I remember being on Yahoo Answers back in the late 2000's to the early 2010's, and in the Desktop Hardware section people would share their PC build list to see if everything was compatible. You have no idea how many parts lists I has seen with good components but a terrible Power Supply. Back then, there were a lot of Fly-By-Night companies that made cheap power supply units.
@Noa Vmsm There are still terrible power supply units made by companies like Apevia and Raidmax, and PSU's by Fly-Night-Companies still exist, but these Fly-By-Night PSU's aren't as abundant as they were 10-12 years ago. Someone told me these Fly-By-Night companies would fold after 9 months, then come back under a different name. I looked that up myself and he was right. They would sell units that were advertised for 700w for around $30usd... prices that were too good to be true. However, the +12v rail might only be capable of 400w, and these sometimes came with no PCI-E connectors.
Man this content is so much fun, always something different keeping it fresh. I've always had a great time with your videos mate, cheers from Costa Rica
I love watching your vidz As a 50yr old who's last pc run win98 that an xbox replaced I have learnt so much from you and I'm looking to purchase a pc for older games and music production Keep up the good vidz
as someone who ran a Phenom II 940BE on DDR2, i can tell you from experience that it is the memory that is holding back the frames in GTA5, i upgraded (kinda an upgrade) to a FX 6100 on DDR3, and using the same videocard the framerate doubled from the 40s to mid 80s at 1080p (using a HD 7850)
Well I can tell you when I had my Phenom II 955 with DDR3 I could barely play youtube video in 1080p, 720p was fine but 1080p was shuttering all the time.. After I upgraded to i5 6600k I had no longer problem playing it on 1080p.
I still use my 1090t as a backup gaming setup (with a AMD 380x & 14gb 1600mhz ram) when my partner is playing cyberpunk on the main glorious PC. Honestly I got the best performance out of my 1090t by overclocking it to 4ghz and then overclocking the NB & HT link by a slight chunk. This was years after focusing on solely CPU overclocking. I found I got better FPS at 4ghz on CPU with a NB & HT link overclock than I did at a solely 4.5ghz CPU overclock (granted the 4.5ghz was full on & reckless, I don't care if the system explodes, overclocking). Threw in a SSD and did a DLL fix to get elden ring running (albeit offline for safe measure) with medium settings and a happy 30+ fps :) Still very capable machine - Only upgraded from that to my main system when the ryzen 3000 series was a steal :)
My Phenom X4 9850BE PC was so fun to use back in the day. I made it in 2008 and it was a great gaming rig for 4 years. Eventually I used it as a backup PC and in total it ended up lasting about 11 years.
It must be destiny dude. This week I got a Phenom II X6 1045T that I paired with an AM3+ Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 motherboard. They can easily support 16Gb DDR3 and with the proper memory and FSB overclocking, I managed with my 1600MHz Kingston HyperX Fury DDR3 get the Phenom X6 to 3.3GHz. Got an increase of 600 points in cinebench R23. I have to pluck the R9 380x for games and check the differences. Best of luck with that 1090T :)
*_That's a Thermaltake Versa N21. It originally released in 2016._* Possibly came with that 600 watt PSU bundled. Without the PSU it was like 50 bucks- which made it a good deal except for the unserviceable choked off front fans (wth?). I have that exact case sitting next to me- a cheap open box prebuilt purchased in 2018 (ABS Vortex Harbinger- 6th gen i-5, RX 480). Front fans started grinding... top USB ports can get dirt in them easily. But beyond that it's a good cheap case. The fact that the acrylic side panel on yours looks relatively unscratched suggests a charmed life since 2016 or whenever somebody took a new cheap gaming case and stuck those old parts in it. They probably found somebody selling everything but the case and PSU and bought this Thermaltake combo, or even the original owner upgraded to intel and bought a cheap PC case to put this stuff in and sell off as a complete gaming PC while keeping their main case. A very unusual build indeed. Old stuff in a much newer "gaming" case. The Thermaltake UK site still has the manual for it to download if you need it.
The Phenom II’s weren’t bad CPUs. I had a Phenom II X4 955 in my computer back then and it worked well. The i7 920 was the better buy, though, and holds up better from what I understand. I also had Windows 10 running on a Phenom II 955 and with a SSD it worked really nicely for me on normal usage cases and ran my older games fine. An SSD definitely would help that PC out a ton.
I've built a few phenom II builds back when I first started selling budget gaming pcs and if you can snag the parts for cheap prices on ebay they can still perform relatively well as long as you make sure they have as much ram as you can possibly give them and an ssd. Always thought it was kinda cool that you can use an am2+ motherboard for a build like that and it'll work. Sold a system to a co-worker with a phenom II x4 910 and a gt 740 4gb for cheap and his wife was able to use it as a work from home pc over the last year and a half with no problems. Turned out to be a surprisingly usable budget machine.
The Phenom 109T was an absolute beast of a CPU, punched well above its weight and just a shame it didn't quite scale with age too well but I would bet in a AM3+ board, DDR3 it would still tread water despite all this.
I had that case for years, Thermaltake Versa. The front and top design were neat, put some LED strips in them and made it look really rad. Eventually after moving it enough, the cable for one of the front panel connectors wore through and shorted, resulting in me thinking my PC was bricked. Turned out the Thermaltake employee screwing in the retaining screw for the cables caught one between the screw hole and screw flange and damaged it, but not enough to fail until it'd been fatigued by being carted around to LAN parties enough. This led to me RMAing two motherboards after taking all the other components out and testing them in other computers and confirming them working except the mobo. Luckily I know a lot more about diagnosing hardware issues these days, but it was pain.
Comment made at 0.09, PHENOM II FOR THE WIN!!! Seriously though mine lasted me until last year and was a very good CPU for most of that time. It was paired with some awesome GPUs in its time too, a 550ti a 750ti and lastly a 1050ti. Now it is my Win XP/Win 7 PC :)
Nice. That PC has the exact same CPU cooler I have, although now my cooler is in my partner's PC for her to use as I now have a AIO water cooler instead.
I used to work at Cash Converters in Kings Heath back in the late 90's. Great when you do because I can tell how much they paid for the item using the codes on the labels. Computers was my department buying and selling. I also used to work at Laser Quest/Megazone at Acocks Green Bowl in the early 2000's. Didn't realise you were a local lad.
When the” 5 hour windows update” part came I thought to myself “hmmm.. this PC is the perfect candidate for a light Linux distro” . Maybe you should make a video about that. It would give this old PC a chance to shine:)
@Monochromatik It’s not that old that it should be a retro gaming machine. This is why I suggested the Linux path. It could be a awesome browsing machine. Usable in the modern world:)
Oh, one minute in, and as a... I'd say a sort of 'unusual/novelty' sock enthusiast/collector - yeah, that's definitely fashion. Got some Big Mac colour striped (including stylized seeds on the top part) sneaker style ones on, from some giveaway with a Mc Menu last year, haha.
That PSU does look SUS. What I've learned from Bryan (Tech Yes City) is that if the amperage on 3,3V and/or 5V lines is greater than on the 12V line, you should be careful xD
hes also the one that says its okay to use pci-e connectors from sata ports is okay with old oem dell power supplies.Ive seen him make builds that could cause your house to go up in flames by using POS off brand power supplies and having adapters power the gpu.Hes got a cool channel but some of his builds in psu quality and adapters are like the worst thing to advise and say its okay to be doing.If a power supply doesnt have the connector, its not made for running gpu's that require a 6 or 8 pin or both
I'm pretty sure molex and sata 4 pin connectors are designed for a max of 54W.... Even the 6-pin pcie cable draws does 40% over spec @75W, while if you want to start a fire the 8-pin connectors goes 180% over the rated spec @150W... It's a shame the PSU connectors were not redone entirely around the late Pentium 4 (Prescott) era as those PSUs were obsolete back then frankly.
@@kyles8524 quite like Tech Yes City myself although one of his builds with a morpheus 1080ti did make me wince with no reinforcement for the PCB of the GPU causing it to bend a bit.
Ha! I know the Acocks Green branch, I go there fairly often. They don’t often have much decent PC stuff, but if you need old tablets, laptops, second hand DJ gear or filthy work tools, they are the people to see in south east Birmingham. I bought a GTX 1070 on eBay that, it turns out, came from a Cash Converters branch. They shipped it in a box full of shredded paper, which made my heart sink when I first opened the box but I needn’t have worried: it was wrapped in a pair of sandwich bags, which I suppose is almost as good as an anti static bag. Fortunately, the card was fine!
Never thought Cash Converters are in UK, i was in one in Luxembourg a few days ago and bought a PC there with no listed specs for 130€ :') In there was an i7-860, 16GB of RAM , an GTX280 OEM and 1,5TB HDD with a bluray player .
Oh my cpu ! It's impressive how well this cpu aged I'm 50% in god of war 4 today and I'm playing it with this specs : Phenom II X6 1090t oc'd to 3.8ghz / North bridge @2600mhz / HT @2200mhz 12gb 1333mhz ram 4×2 + 2×2 Gtx 1050ti +100mhz core c / +150mhz to memory c Fsp blue storm II 500w psu Asus M4A89TD PRO USB3 (I really like this board) And this system performance is surprisingly decent as I'm playing god of war at original + high mix / 1080p with fsr ultra quality And it looks really good and running with 40-50fps most of the time 100% gpu usage 65% cpu usage impressive to say the least Note : there is a fix for almost every game that requires instructions that is not included with this cpu and one of them is god of war which i ran using one of these fixs and they are really really simple fixs just 2 or 3 dll files you throw in the game main folder and the magic is on so i hope you push this cpu to it's limits with the latest games available today and a powerful gpu like 1080ti or 1070ti you can find these fixs in this website Cs (dot) rin (dot) ru from a person called Luther_d or by searching for the game specific name + sse fix in RUclips and many videos using that fix will show up
I used to work for Cash Converters back in 2015 & I can tell you the only testing they do is PAT Testing for the PSU cable & making sure the device "runs". That's it. Wipes normally only consist of deleting files off of the HDD/SSD as they don't hold a legal license to re-install Windows. The cleanliness of it doesn't surprise me neither. Don't even get me started on the Mark-Up price.
The 1090T is a beast, it's just crippled by the platform. FYI, I'm still rocking a Phenom II 960T on one of my PCs under a Thermalright Macho rev.B. Started in 2012, still going strong. It's with 16GB of DDR3 1600MHz, 1TB Samsung 870 Evo on the Asrock 970 Extreme3, going at full SATA III speed. Started with a HD4890 1GB PCS+, went through a HD5870 2GB @ 1080p, then a Rx580 8GB and finished at a Rx6600XT on a 1440p monitor (it's a long story). Does everything I ask it to, and doesn't show its age most of the time. I play War Thunder on it at over 150 FPS, and am still happy with how it turned out. Main bottleneck is the RAM bandwidth IMHO.
Aka Crime Generator 😉 I remember buying a boxed SF2 Snes there for £8 back in 2003. Crazy! Our local store closed down a couple of years ago. Says a lot about the state of your home town when even shops like Cash Convertor can’t survive, yet there’s no shortage of vape shops and Turkish barbers…
the board you want to use for the Phenom II X6 is a GA-880GMA-UD2H. it does DDR3, still has IDE/floppy but also has SATA III, USB3, and all the fixings there. it's the best-of-all-worlds board In this way you can also do two side by side comparisons with an IDE spinnydisk and an SSD for performance numbers. You can also drop the chip into a 970 chipset motherboard and it'll be probably a bit better as well.
I'm watching this on a 13 year old Intel i7 920. I paid $3000 for it originally, and it's been through three power supplies and two video cards, but it can still play games pretty well, and I still have the original 12 gigs of name brand RAM. I paid a lot of money for top quality when I bought it, and it's paid for itself many times over.
loved the Phenom 1090T, was a overclockers wet dream, cause you could gain performance by individually changing the multipliers on each core, via amd overdrive program. that and the 940BE you could do that with, blimey that was years ago.
I bought a 1090T motherboard Bundle recently.... It came with an ASUS Crosshair IV motherboard and 8GB RAM... When I opened it they'd included the original Overclockers receipt from November 2010 for £506.74 with a 4.0GHz overclock... Was some high end tech back then and I paid £74.20 delivered for it.
that's a decent system. i'd install 8gb of ram and swap the phenom for a 5800 x2 and keep the graphics card. swap the ide hard drive for a sata drive, install windows 7 and install my older games like grid and doom 3.
Bought my sons pc from CC, cost £229.99 and wasn't listed as having a GPU but i spotted one hiding in there and took a chance. Specs listed were Ryzen 1300, 8GB, 240SSD, 1TB HDD... Actual specs turned out to be: Ryzen 3 3100, 8GB DDR4(meh), the SSD, HDD were correct but there was a 1650 OC just chilling in there not even mentioned. At a time when people were still charging £200 for a 1650 OC made this a pretty sweet buy.
For the price, you got a good box. The PSU is sized appropriately, I don't know anything of the brand though; Having exactly the right connectors for the application is desirable, but not required, I suspect the PSU was bought later on or salvaged from another machine (what's the point in spending £70-80 for a PSU to go in a 7-10yr PC after all). I was a bit disappointed that you didn't detail any speed difference between the RAM - both modules appear to be DDR2-800? The Kingston modules may not have the same timings, which in this era did change performance a little. The combination of total system memory being at 6GB and using spinning rust are likely to be the primary reasons why GTA5 was bogging down, if it either had more RAM or faster storage for paging I suspect it would have been smooth. A pretty good buy overall though!
I wish the used PC market down here in Argentina was a thing. Sadly, most of us use our hardware until it either can't handle the most basic web browsing, or can't be repaired anymore if it does not boots. Either that, or the usable used parts are WAY too expensive for the value they provide, and you're better off buying new components. I would LOVE to update my lowly Athlon II to a beast like this :-D
well thats because argentineans keep voting idiots into government who tax imports and constantly rape your currency, absolutely amazing that cristina got into power again the last time you had free markets the country was one of the richest in the world, those beautiful old buildings are a constant reminder of argentinas potential and the utter failure of government as well as the people who keep voting for the same people it is a god damn tragedy
Cash Converters is essentially a pawn broker, just a chain of them. CEX and Cash Converters do deal with second hand goods, but CEX isn't a pawn broker and are limited in what they will buy/sell.
Those RAM modules could be the same type. Near the connector all the components are in the same place. The company GEIL doesn't produce memory, they just put cooler on the modules. The memory chips and PCB might be produced by Kingston too, like the other kit. The modules without a cooler are twice the size but have a slightly worse latency than the GEIL ones. The upgrade is totally fine in my opinion.
I mean i have an i3 3210 and used to play GTA 5 on 800*600 and 3/4 res scale... This pc is like a gem in my opinion.... Would I buy it? From a shop probably not , if handed down by a friend or family yes.
Man! You should definitely put an SSD here and upgrade mobo to put some decent DDR3 in here. I'd like to see how it'll handle "modern" games =) *I have my own "necro-PC" with Core 2 Quad 8400, 1GB HD6570 and 8GB of DDR3 on GA-G41M-Combo mobo (just for playing HoMM 2 and AoE 1 on great old CRT monitor). So when I've built it I found my old nearly "new" IDE 80GB Samsung drive, but I gave up pretty fast and put modern SSD just to prevent mental breakdown on next system startup
back in the day i had a system similar to this... 1090T + 6950 + 8GB DDR3 RAM, was my first full gaming PC. It was awesome, i was playing almost everything in ultra quality settings. I still have the OCZ power supply that i used in this pc
The M4N72-E in that build there wasn't a budget board. It was a decent SLI board used for gaming builds. It had been on the market for maybe a year when the Phenom II 1090t had been released, so not surprised at all at seeing it paired with a 1090t. This would have been considered a higher end gaming pc when the HD 6970 was released. What probably happened is the original owner moved to an entirely different platform, like a FX or Intel build with a new gpu, and carried over his original PSU and hard drives. The two sticks of higher quality ram were probably the only two sticks he ever used. I knew alot of people who were still gaming using Windows Xp back in 2012/2013. So if the original owner was doing that also, he wouldn't have needed more then 4gb of ram. Either way, higher end AM2+ boards in general were sold on the market still even when AM3 was released, and the price and performance difference between the two platforms wasn't much. Where you saw the major price difference though initially was in the ram cost.
ive been on the pawn shop side of this thing. when someone hocks a computer we look it up on ebay sold items, find a median listing, and divide that price by a factor of four. that's how much we buy it for. when the loan expires (or if it was just a sell) we pull the comp, multiply what we buy it for by a factor of 3 (more if it looks nice) and sell it at that price. you are going to get hit or miss performance. also pawn shops are the devil's work. ive seen every scam there was and i only worked the job 5 months.
I think that my older desktop PC that I built with old parts is still going strong today. It has an Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 cpu that I was able to overclock to 3.26 ghz, 4 gb of ddr2 ram at 960 mhz, a GTX 570 graphics card, 180 gb intel ssd, and it runs Windows 11 fairly well. The C2Q Q9550 cpu from what I've seen is from early 2008 which is when Windows Vista would have been the latest and greatest operating system.
Latest maybe, but not greatest. There is a reason XP was supported for so long. At that time DX10 didn't really offer that much, but Vista had much higher system requirements. So the majority of people, gamers and non-gamers alike, stayed with XP. The only place where you'd see Vista was in OEM systems and at places where 64-bit was required.
@@HappyBeezerStudios I remember when I went to a public library in late 2012 and even then, their computers were still using Windows XP and this was even well after Windows 7 and even Windows 8 was released. I highly doubt that they still use Windows XP today though. Me personally, I really don't remember having too many issues with Windows Vista even when I used it for the first time in April of 2007. Of course I had a fairly high end PC at the time which was a Core 2 Duo 2.13 ghz with 2 gb of ram and a 7600 gs graphics card.
@@HappyBeezerStudios at least in the end, I don't think Windows Vista wasn't a bad operating system and at least from Microsoft, it did get the same amount of support as Windows 7, just a little over 10 years. It's just that allot of third party software providers seemed to hate Vista and decided to go ahead and end support on their software for Vista at the same time as XP even though Vista is over 5 years newer than XP.
I sold a PC containing 1090t with 12GB DDR3 RAM plus Asus motherboard with USB 3 ports and Corsair Hx620 (No graphics card) for £120 a few months ago. I think you can definitely get more than £80 if you split the components.
I have an old LG gaming PC that I got from a second hand shop for a tenner. It is silver and looks great, but it's that old, it still has a floppy drive in. I cannot find any information about the model on the internet? Not sure if it works, but at the time of it's making, it will have been a beast of a PC, compared to normal PC's.
SSD + replacing the 1GB sticks with 2GB = legit decent budget gaming PC. Ok, not the best bang for buck or the most power efficient but it would perform well. One of the major things is when you assign the swap file (virtual RAM) to an SSD, the 8GB of actual RAM installed isn't such a big deal because it can swap active/inactive applications much quicker, and it feels much more like a modern system because there isn't that lag of the HDD trying to do all these things at once.
That is the point where you gladly sacrifice some of the cost efficiency for the simple enjoyment of tinkering around. That is what I do with my LGA775 build. I spend more time just swapping things out and testing half a dozen CPUs and how high I can get them.
I bet with a cheap SSD, some cleaning, and maybe even a big OC things will improve on that. Would like to see how far it can go. Show off that even older cheap systems can still do quite a bit.
Some really good components for the time, had the same CPU and a 6990. Had a 5770 before that and it was one of the best mid-tier budget cards I've ever seen in my life. Radeon cards were the shit back then. Unfortunately they followed up with some poor generations and I switched to Nvidia, never had a reason to go back.
As someone who built their first pc not too long ago in that case my lord do I hate it lmfao there is zero space to cable manage in the back with the system begging for airflow before you pull off that front plastic panel which was a must for my HD6950 which was later upgraded pull off the front plastic panel by the bottom throw an intake fan on there and youre solid if you wanna go the extra mile and rig some mesh as well to catch dust id recommend it
TBF the ace brand PSU is not all that bad, well the one I inherited anyway, it was 5+ years old and it ran an OC 960 4gd for a good 4 years, 1 year OC'd, full disclosure I did replace it with a 550w Corsair mainly due to supply chain issues early covid & to match my new case😎
Cash Converters? I didn't think they existed anymore. Apparently we still have them in Canada, but I recall way back that one in my hometown was shut down for selling used bongs. lol.
After watching DankPods, I can't call it Cash Converters anymore, just Cashies. However, this PC sure is an interesting example of how PC's were built by mix and matching components back in the day.
Yeah some odd combos in here
Ohhhh He Found it at Cashies~
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He found it at cashies mate
Where you can find your dreams
They’ve got
Wares
And Chairs
And a Bug downstairs
And clubs
And tubs
And a hat for scrubs
And out of date movies
So
Get on down to cashies mate
You know it’ll change your life
So get off the floor, head out the door
Forget eBay they’ll charge you more
And lose your life at cashies
Mate
Lol
I always get disappointed when I go to a cashies and there’s no old school fair music :(
"my patience made like my dad and left" that caught me off guard big time... god damn
😂
Had a mouthful of Salt and Vinegar Pringles and damn nearly choked
@@RandomGaminginHD haha
@@RandomGaminginHD oh that was a real moment. You're turning into Jimmy Carr with these lines. Nothing I can say can change things but it looks like you're doing well, you live in a good place, you're smart and knowledgeable and enjoy what you're doing. You're likable. Life throws up bad things but the sun always comes up tomorrow, and you'll always have witty jokes in your videos :-)
That's really sad! :o(
my uncle has an old build around the same era, a VERY HIGH END athlon 64 x2 from 2007 with 8800GT in it. i upgraded it back in 2017 for him with some cheap DDR2 2G rams (the board was good, can take 4 sticks) and installed windows 10 so he can use it as a home system to play cartoons for his kids.
i still remember back in the days i drooled on his PC as a kid and watched him play all the newest title in his room(now mine LOL, he moved next door after marriage). man, this really brings up memories! can't feel the same today.
thanks for sharing the story bro
yeah aging sucks
Do not install Win 10, as it had bad support for these MB and CPUs , especially with latest updates. Stick to Win 7, have some decent anti-virus software and there you go.
My uncle had a similar pc back in the day too. I remember a few months after Windows 7 came out and watched him upgrade from Vista to 7. Me and my cousin everytime we visited used to watch RUclips videos like the annoying orange or the piano cat on that computer.
He might still have it, but he's likely either given it away or scrapped it
@@chandlerbing7570 the orange!
The X6 1090t is one of my favourite CPU's of all time. They will regularly hit 4ghz all core overclock with ease (I had mine at 4.1ghz) but the key to unlocking the gaming performance especially 1% lows (IIRC) was to overclock the HT link to around 2200mhz and the Northbridge to about 2600mhz (I think mine hit 2800mhz but there's a sweet spot), because this directly affects the L3 cache latency which is heavily used in games. Back in 2011, right before I jumped to Sandy Bridge with an i5 2500k, this CPU was a fantastic EOL swansong for the AM3 platform.
Yeah it’s awesome, thanks for the OC info too
The CPU-NB sweetspot is actually closer to 3GHz if you can squeeze it. Up to 1.45v is considered perfectly safe on CPU-NB voltage. Up to 1.55v is considered perfectly safe on CPU vcore. I've got my 1100T at 4.2GHz, 1.60v with 3GHz CPU-NB, 1.50v paired with a HD7970. Using a 240mm AIO on it, it never exceeds about 62*C load, so its fine. Other than a few titles complaining about lack of instructions, it still games perfectly fine if you consider its age. I'll bet RDR2 would play fine if it would actually launch for example. Definitely CPU bottlenecked in some titles, but that's to be expected. It does actually PLAY games still though.
Wow, I never considered bumping up the HT link/NB for cache latency.
Been using my newer rig for software development as of late so been keeping the games off it. Was just using my old 1090t with ASUS crosshair iv, gtx 660 ti, and ssd earlier today to play Borderlands 3 which runs surprisingly well on medium settings for such a chunky game (50-60fps occasional brief stutter). Crosshair iv is a great board for overclocking and the 6 cores saves it for UE4 titles that need some place to do the asset streaming. Wish it had up to SSE4.2 for Apex Legends tho. Still my middle school self would have never guessed that thing would still be gaming in the 2020's. Definitely trying that HT link and NB OC.
@@pio80085
Actually there is a fix that makes almost every game run without these instructions for example im now 50% at god of war 4 which requires those 4.2sse instructions and it runs amazingly well gtx 1050ti p2x6 1090t oc'd to 3.8ghz nb to 2600mhz ht to 2200mhz : mix of high and original at 1080p fsr ultra quality 40-50fps very nice and playable experience 🔥, very impressive considering the cpu is over a decade old at this point !
100% agree nb/ht oc is very important for those old beasts 🔥
My man never fails to deliver unique content. Keep up the great work mate!
facts, one of the absolute best
he's your man?!?!?! SUS
Thanks mate
@@RandomGaminginHD Surprised that pc still worked with that ace powersupply, they were terrible quality wise, like diablotek, or xilence (which killed not one but TWO graphics cards in a cousins pc first & then later when i tested it years later.) which im very certain it is just a rebranded xilence 600w (more like 250w) powersupply.
That in one model under the same brandname failed the EU electrical safety standards, which is pretty damn bad considering all the china crap that makes it into this country anyway...
So they weren't even able too be sold anywhere across the entire lineup in Europe.
Though it's not as bad as Hantol powersupplies...
Where a pfc coil was fake & literally just a block of cement.
I'm not joking, search it up on images and you'll see it.
Seeing the cpu/gpu combo with the optimal setup with some overclocking to push the combo to its limits would be most interesting to see
Yeah I’ll have to see what this thing can really do
@@RandomGaminginHD ... put linux mint on it , I think you'd be surprised.
"Do not manhandle". That's certainly the most unique packaging i've ever seen, also the most suspicious.
Yeah I thought it was like “do not touch” and wondered how it would get here 😂
Sus indeed but WTF it worked.
@@RandomGaminginHD your Brexit vote wasn't sure
4:33 Installing the latest build of Windows 10 from scratch would have been faster.
Yeah you’re right. I don’t know why I persisted for so long 😂
@@RandomGaminginHD "nearly done..... It'll start moving again soon..... Just got to wait for a few minutes..... How long has it been stuck on 88% now? Oh it just moved, nearly there..... I'll make tea..... I'll start dinner....facking heck! Come on!..... Power button."
For an older system like this, I'm very curious about how a Linux install would perform. It's certainly a lot more lightweight than Windows 10 and gaming performance more than rivals Windows with the new Steam Proton support.
@@PropaneWP ... I agree. That would be a sensible path for that machine.
@@PropaneWP much better.
Cant wait for the updates on this! My previous gaming pc has the same CPU, but an AM3 board, 8GB ram and a GTX 1050 so Im curious to see how you'll be getting the most out of it. I know I would like to get mine to overclock, but Id need another motherboard as I cant overclock on it...
Keep up the great content
Once upon a time , that was my dream case. I miss those old cases with a door to cover the ODD components. I actually still use my ODD, .... occasionally. I'm currently using an old Dell case that I've swapped newer components into and having the oem front I/O capabilities is quite handy.
This was my dream config back in the days. 😁
But after I saw an old i3 4th gen for 5€ ripping the phenom apart I chose intel and never regret it.
$hintel is crap. AMD 4 lyfe bishes!
@@IvanIvanov-ni4rs very clearly an intel fanboy pretending to be a amd fanboy, get a lyfe bishe.
@@IvanIvanov-ni4rs lol your the type of customer they want, blind fools who throw thier money at them while chanting that they grovel to a company because something is 3-5% better in some cases
@@IvanIvanov-ni4rs nah the dickeating is crazyyyy 😭
@@IvanIvanov-ni4rs AMD was shit before Ryzen
3:45 it’s due to the fact that phenom II cpus have both a DDR2 _and_ DDR3 memory controller on the die, and since am3 cpus are physically compatible with am2+, it allowed am2+ users to upgrade to a new generation without changing boards
Yup, it was possible to go from A64 X2/DDR2/AM2 all the way to FX/DDR3/AM3+ without ever having to make a completely new build. Each CPU was either capable to run on multiple sockets or the board allowed for different CPUs.
I remember being on Yahoo Answers back in the late 2000's to the early 2010's, and in the Desktop Hardware section people would share their PC build list to see if everything was compatible. You have no idea how many parts lists I has seen with good components but a terrible Power Supply. Back then, there were a lot of Fly-By-Night companies that made cheap power supply units.
@Noa Vmsm There are still terrible power supply units made by companies like Apevia and Raidmax, and PSU's by Fly-Night-Companies still exist, but these Fly-By-Night PSU's aren't as abundant as they were 10-12 years ago.
Someone told me these Fly-By-Night companies would fold after 9 months, then come back under a different name. I looked that up myself and he was right.
They would sell units that were advertised for 700w for around $30usd... prices that were too good to be true. However, the +12v rail might only be capable of 400w, and these sometimes came with no PCI-E connectors.
Long time viewer, love watching your tech reviews,keep up with the great content!
I must say whenever I'm bored or don't have any idea what to do I watch your videos and that is daily thanks for making my days better
Man this content is so much fun, always something different keeping it fresh. I've always had a great time with your videos mate, cheers from Costa Rica
Thanks :)
I love watching your vidz
As a 50yr old who's last pc run win98 that an xbox replaced
I have learnt so much from you and I'm looking to purchase a pc for older games and music production
Keep up the good vidz
Do it :-)
as someone who ran a Phenom II 940BE on DDR2, i can tell you from experience that it is the memory that is holding back the frames in GTA5, i upgraded (kinda an upgrade) to a FX 6100 on DDR3, and using the same videocard the framerate doubled from the 40s to mid 80s at 1080p (using a HD 7850)
Well I can tell you when I had my Phenom II 955 with DDR3 I could barely play youtube video in 1080p, 720p was fine but 1080p was shuttering all the time.. After I upgraded to i5 6600k I had no longer problem playing it on 1080p.
@@zaxyss7339 That sounds more like an issue with acceleration and not the CPU. My Core 2 does 1080p60 youtube just fine.
I still use my 1090t as a backup gaming setup (with a AMD 380x & 14gb 1600mhz ram) when my partner is playing cyberpunk on the main glorious PC.
Honestly I got the best performance out of my 1090t by overclocking it to 4ghz and then overclocking the NB & HT link by a slight chunk. This was years after focusing on solely CPU overclocking. I found I got better FPS at 4ghz on CPU with a NB & HT link overclock than I did at a solely 4.5ghz CPU overclock (granted the 4.5ghz was full on & reckless, I don't care if the system explodes, overclocking).
Threw in a SSD and did a DLL fix to get elden ring running (albeit offline for safe measure) with medium settings and a happy 30+ fps :)
Still very capable machine - Only upgraded from that to my main system when the ryzen 3000 series was a steal :)
My Phenom X4 9850BE PC was so fun to use back in the day. I made it in 2008 and it was a great gaming rig for 4 years. Eventually I used it as a backup PC and in total it ended up lasting about 11 years.
It must be destiny dude. This week I got a Phenom II X6 1045T that I paired with an AM3+ Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 motherboard. They can easily support 16Gb DDR3 and with the proper memory and FSB overclocking, I managed with my 1600MHz Kingston HyperX Fury DDR3 get the Phenom X6 to 3.3GHz.
Got an increase of 600 points in cinebench R23. I have to pluck the R9 380x for games and check the differences.
Best of luck with that 1090T :)
I still use a very similar PC as a NAS and it's doing it's job great. Really cool to see this video about it.
I'd love to see a video based on the HD 6970 comparing the performance between the last official driver and the community made driver! :)
Damn that does sound really interesting.
*_That's a Thermaltake Versa N21. It originally released in 2016._* Possibly came with that 600 watt PSU bundled. Without the PSU it was like 50 bucks- which made it a good deal except for the unserviceable choked off front fans (wth?). I have that exact case sitting next to me- a cheap open box prebuilt purchased in 2018 (ABS Vortex Harbinger- 6th gen i-5, RX 480). Front fans started grinding... top USB ports can get dirt in them easily. But beyond that it's a good cheap case. The fact that the acrylic side panel on yours looks relatively unscratched suggests a charmed life since 2016 or whenever somebody took a new cheap gaming case and stuck those old parts in it. They probably found somebody selling everything but the case and PSU and bought this Thermaltake combo, or even the original owner upgraded to intel and bought a cheap PC case to put this stuff in and sell off as a complete gaming PC while keeping their main case. A very unusual build indeed. Old stuff in a much newer "gaming" case. The Thermaltake UK site still has the manual for it to download if you need it.
The Phenom II’s weren’t bad CPUs. I had a Phenom II X4 955 in my computer back then and it worked well. The i7 920 was the better buy, though, and holds up better from what I understand. I also had Windows 10 running on a Phenom II 955 and with a SSD it worked really nicely for me on normal usage cases and ran my older games fine. An SSD definitely would help that PC out a ton.
I've built a few phenom II builds back when I first started selling budget gaming pcs and if you can snag the parts for cheap prices on ebay they can still perform relatively well as long as you make sure they have as much ram as you can possibly give them and an ssd. Always thought it was kinda cool that you can use an am2+ motherboard for a build like that and it'll work. Sold a system to a co-worker with a phenom II x4 910 and a gt 740 4gb for cheap and his wife was able to use it as a work from home pc over the last year and a half with no problems. Turned out to be a surprisingly usable budget machine.
Upgraded my old i7 920, R7 360 system to an i7 990X w/ a 1070ti. Plays but has missing instructions for newer titles
The Phenom 109T was an absolute beast of a CPU, punched well above its weight and just a shame it didn't quite scale with age too well but I would bet in a AM3+ board, DDR3 it would still tread water despite all this.
I had that case for years, Thermaltake Versa. The front and top design were neat, put some LED strips in them and made it look really rad. Eventually after moving it enough, the cable for one of the front panel connectors wore through and shorted, resulting in me thinking my PC was bricked. Turned out the Thermaltake employee screwing in the retaining screw for the cables caught one between the screw hole and screw flange and damaged it, but not enough to fail until it'd been fatigued by being carted around to LAN parties enough.
This led to me RMAing two motherboards after taking all the other components out and testing them in other computers and confirming them working except the mobo. Luckily I know a lot more about diagnosing hardware issues these days, but it was pain.
Comment made at 0.09, PHENOM II FOR THE WIN!!! Seriously though mine lasted me until last year and was a very good CPU for most of that time. It was paired with some awesome GPUs in its time too, a 550ti a 750ti and lastly a 1050ti. Now it is my Win XP/Win 7 PC :)
Nice. That PC has the exact same CPU cooler I have, although now my cooler is in my partner's PC for her to use as I now have a AIO water cooler instead.
I used to work at Cash Converters in Kings Heath back in the late 90's. Great when you do because I can tell how much they paid for the item using the codes on the labels. Computers was my department buying and selling. I also used to work at Laser Quest/Megazone at Acocks Green Bowl in the early 2000's. Didn't realise you were a local lad.
"it's called fashion, look it up"
Broooo
Favorite line of this channel
Man, I had 2 6950 in crossfire both flashed with a 6970 BIOS. I loved that computer.
A High End PC From 2010 bought just for a Hundred Bucks of Dollar on Cash Converter. What a Nostalgia to have those PC ❤
When the” 5 hour windows update” part came I thought to myself “hmmm.. this PC is the perfect candidate for a light Linux distro” . Maybe you should make a video about that. It would give this old PC a chance to shine:)
That's why I keep the offline update package around. It does a lot to cut down the update time.
@@HappyBeezerStudios the problem is that windows will end up bolted anyway sooner or later
@Monochromatik well yes but you no longer get security updates on windows 7. I’m a bit of a risk taker but I wouldn’t go that far.
@Monochromatik It’s not that old that it should be a retro gaming machine. This is why I suggested the Linux path. It could be a awesome browsing machine. Usable in the modern world:)
Absolute fashion god. Something about the voice-over this video seemed extra nice too.
The slipper, sock and shirt bit just made your popularity in Germany go through the roof! 😂
Oh men i love those old tech, i got almost all my pcs from back in the day still here somewere laying arround upstairs in the attic :D
Oh, one minute in, and as a... I'd say a sort of 'unusual/novelty' sock enthusiast/collector - yeah, that's definitely fashion.
Got some Big Mac colour striped (including stylized seeds on the top part) sneaker style ones on, from some giveaway with a Mc Menu last year, haha.
That PSU does look SUS. What I've learned from Bryan (Tech Yes City) is that if the amperage on 3,3V and/or 5V lines is greater than on the 12V line, you should be careful xD
hes also the one that says its okay to use pci-e connectors from sata ports is okay with old oem dell power supplies.Ive seen him make builds that could cause your house to go up in flames by using POS off brand power supplies and having adapters power the gpu.Hes got a cool channel but some of his builds in psu quality and adapters are like the worst thing to advise and say its okay to be doing.If a power supply doesnt have the connector, its not made for running gpu's that require a 6 or 8 pin or both
I'm pretty sure molex and sata 4 pin connectors are designed for a max of 54W.... Even the 6-pin pcie cable draws does 40% over spec @75W, while if you want to start a fire the 8-pin connectors goes 180% over the rated spec @150W...
It's a shame the PSU connectors were not redone entirely around the late Pentium 4 (Prescott) era as those PSUs were obsolete back then frankly.
@@kyles8524 quite like Tech Yes City myself although one of his builds with a morpheus 1080ti did make me wince with no reinforcement for the PCB of the GPU causing it to bend a bit.
A big 5V line would be nice for Athlon XP, 25A or better 30A on the rail.
Ha! I know the Acocks Green branch, I go there fairly often. They don’t often have much decent PC stuff, but if you need old tablets, laptops, second hand DJ gear or filthy work tools, they are the people to see in south east Birmingham.
I bought a GTX 1070 on eBay that, it turns out, came from a Cash Converters branch. They shipped it in a box full of shredded paper, which made my heart sink when I first opened the box but I needn’t have worried: it was wrapped in a pair of sandwich bags, which I suppose is almost as good as an anti static bag.
Fortunately, the card was fine!
Awesome!
Now I expect an annual Cashies special from you as well. Please don’t disappoint me. 😂
Ye this channel was created just for u and he's only here to please u.
@@thealien_ali3382 humor must be a hard concept for you to grasp…
Never thought Cash Converters are in UK, i was in one in Luxembourg a few days ago and bought a PC there with no listed specs for 130€ :')
In there was an i7-860, 16GB of RAM , an GTX280 OEM and 1,5TB HDD with a bluray player .
Great find
@@RandomGaminginHD Yes i was also suprised, the only thing i saw was the i7 sticker on the front panel and that it has a random gpu in there. :D
"Made like my dad and left" 🤣🤣 Fair play dude 👊👊👊 Love your sense of humour 💙
It'd be interesting to see you changing one part at a time to see what really makes the most difference
Oh my cpu ! It's impressive how well this cpu aged I'm 50% in god of war 4 today and I'm playing it with this specs :
Phenom II X6 1090t oc'd to 3.8ghz / North bridge @2600mhz / HT @2200mhz
12gb 1333mhz ram 4×2 + 2×2
Gtx 1050ti +100mhz core c / +150mhz to memory c
Fsp blue storm II 500w psu
Asus M4A89TD PRO USB3 (I really like this board)
And this system performance is surprisingly decent as I'm playing god of war at original + high mix / 1080p with fsr ultra quality
And it looks really good and running with 40-50fps most of the time 100% gpu usage 65% cpu usage impressive to say the least
Note : there is a fix for almost every game that requires instructions that is not included with this cpu and one of them is god of war which i ran using one of these fixs and they are really really simple fixs just 2 or 3 dll files you throw in the game main folder and the magic is on so i hope you push this cpu to it's limits with the latest games available today and a powerful gpu like 1080ti or 1070ti you can find these fixs in this website
Cs (dot) rin (dot) ru
from a person called Luther_d or by searching for the game specific name + sse fix in RUclips and many videos using that fix will show up
I used to work for Cash Converters back in 2015 & I can tell you the only testing they do is PAT Testing for the PSU cable & making sure the device "runs". That's it. Wipes normally only consist of deleting files off of the HDD/SSD as they don't hold a legal license to re-install Windows.
The cleanliness of it doesn't surprise me neither. Don't even get me started on the Mark-Up price.
The 1090T is a beast, it's just crippled by the platform. FYI, I'm still rocking a Phenom II 960T on one of my PCs under a Thermalright Macho rev.B. Started in 2012, still going strong. It's with 16GB of DDR3 1600MHz, 1TB Samsung 870 Evo on the Asrock 970 Extreme3, going at full SATA III speed. Started with a HD4890 1GB PCS+, went through a HD5870 2GB @ 1080p, then a Rx580 8GB and finished at a Rx6600XT on a 1440p monitor (it's a long story). Does everything I ask it to, and doesn't show its age most of the time. I play War Thunder on it at over 150 FPS, and am still happy with how it turned out. Main bottleneck is the RAM bandwidth IMHO.
Wow, your Phenom is causing less limitations than my i5
I love the writing on the packing, "DO NOT MAN HANDLE". LOL
Aka Crime Generator 😉
I remember buying a boxed SF2 Snes there for £8 back in 2003. Crazy! Our local store closed down a couple of years ago. Says a lot about the state of your home town when even shops like Cash Convertor can’t survive, yet there’s no shortage of vape shops and Turkish barbers…
A decent price for a 10 year old gaming PC. Especially since, it comes with some decent components.
I'm so glad it didn't rain while you had the PC open on the garden lawn 😂😂😂
ooooweeeeee wasnt expecting that dad joke. hit me hard from left field
I have two of those Arctic Freezer Extremes coolers sitting a box somewhere. Great video.
the board you want to use for the Phenom II X6 is a GA-880GMA-UD2H. it does DDR3, still has IDE/floppy but also has SATA III, USB3, and all the fixings there. it's the best-of-all-worlds board
In this way you can also do two side by side comparisons with an IDE spinnydisk and an SSD for performance numbers. You can also drop the chip into a 970 chipset motherboard and it'll be probably a bit better as well.
I'm watching this on a 13 year old Intel i7 920. I paid $3000 for it originally, and it's been through three power supplies and two video cards, but it can still play games pretty well, and I still have the original 12 gigs of name brand RAM. I paid a lot of money for top quality when I bought it, and it's paid for itself many times over.
Dude! When you were opening the bag I thought Freddy Krugers hand would reach out and grab you! Phew!!!
loved the Phenom 1090T, was a overclockers wet dream, cause you could gain performance by individually changing the multipliers on each core, via amd overdrive program. that and the 940BE you could do that with, blimey that was years ago.
I upgraded from my Phenom II X4 940BE to Ryzen less than a month ago...worked so well for the 10 years I ran it.
Nice toasty sunburn. Someone's been enjoying our steaming hot British weather. That or you've been on holiday. 😋
I bought a 1090T motherboard Bundle recently.... It came with an ASUS Crosshair IV motherboard and 8GB RAM... When I opened it they'd included the original Overclockers receipt from November 2010 for £506.74 with a 4.0GHz overclock... Was some high end tech back then and I paid £74.20 delivered for it.
As a fellow slippers, socks and shorts person. I love the fit broski.
I got an EVGA SC Black 1080 Ti for $300! And it works so well too.
The market is coming back.
that's a decent system. i'd install 8gb of ram and swap the phenom for a 5800 x2 and keep the graphics card. swap the ide hard drive for a sata drive, install windows 7 and install my older games like grid and doom 3.
SSD rather than SATA HDD. It should be OK. Those CPUs can be massively overclocked but change that PSU ffirst.
@@wayland7150 nuu ssd is too new. i prefer the original experience. a 7200rpm hdd is fast enough though.
Bought my sons pc from CC, cost £229.99 and wasn't listed as having a GPU but i spotted one hiding in there and took a chance.
Specs listed were Ryzen 1300, 8GB, 240SSD, 1TB HDD... Actual specs turned out to be: Ryzen 3 3100, 8GB DDR4(meh), the SSD, HDD were correct but there was a 1650 OC just chilling in there not even mentioned. At a time when people were still charging £200 for a 1650 OC made this a pretty sweet buy.
For the price, you got a good box. The PSU is sized appropriately, I don't know anything of the brand though; Having exactly the right connectors for the application is desirable, but not required, I suspect the PSU was bought later on or salvaged from another machine (what's the point in spending £70-80 for a PSU to go in a 7-10yr PC after all).
I was a bit disappointed that you didn't detail any speed difference between the RAM - both modules appear to be DDR2-800? The Kingston modules may not have the same timings, which in this era did change performance a little.
The combination of total system memory being at 6GB and using spinning rust are likely to be the primary reasons why GTA5 was bogging down, if it either had more RAM or faster storage for paging I suspect it would have been smooth.
A pretty good buy overall though!
I wish the used PC market down here in Argentina was a thing. Sadly, most of us use our hardware until it either can't handle the most basic web browsing, or can't be repaired anymore if it does not boots. Either that, or the usable used parts are WAY too expensive for the value they provide, and you're better off buying new components.
I would LOVE to update my lowly Athlon II to a beast like this :-D
well thats because argentineans keep voting idiots into government who tax imports and constantly rape your currency, absolutely amazing that cristina got into power again
the last time you had free markets the country was one of the richest in the world, those beautiful old buildings are a constant reminder of argentinas potential and the utter failure of government as well as the people who keep voting for the same people
it is a god damn tragedy
Cash Converters is essentially a pawn broker, just a chain of them. CEX and Cash Converters do deal with second hand goods, but CEX isn't a pawn broker and are limited in what they will buy/sell.
I didn't know you were such a fashionista! That outlook must be the latest trend in the UK, LOL 🤭
Those RAM modules could be the same type. Near the connector all the components are in the same place. The company GEIL doesn't produce memory, they just put cooler on the modules. The memory chips and PCB might be produced by Kingston too, like the other kit. The modules without a cooler are twice the size but have a slightly worse latency than the GEIL ones. The upgrade is totally fine in my opinion.
I mean i have an i3 3210 and used to play GTA 5 on 800*600 and 3/4 res scale... This pc is like a gem in my opinion.... Would I buy it? From a shop probably not , if handed down by a friend or family yes.
I remember my Phenom II 555 unlocked to 4 cores and overlooked. That thing was an awesome deal back in the day.
hello, i watch your videos since years.
you are right, the socks and slippers are bad but the scissors are much worse ;-)
have a nice day.
Man! You should definitely put an SSD here and upgrade mobo to put some decent DDR3 in here. I'd like to see how it'll handle "modern" games =)
*I have my own "necro-PC" with Core 2 Quad 8400, 1GB HD6570 and 8GB of DDR3 on GA-G41M-Combo mobo (just for playing HoMM 2 and AoE 1 on great old CRT monitor). So when I've built it I found my old nearly "new" IDE 80GB Samsung drive, but I gave up pretty fast and put modern SSD just to prevent mental breakdown on next system startup
Basically for the minimum in the platform so that XP runs nicely for the old games?
@@HappyBeezerStudios apart of rare unexpected crashes in few games it works pretty fine =)
I still have the exact same PC case from an old i7 4770 build. I still like that case.
Out in the garden with socks and slippers opening a pc. Welcome to the UK everyone.
back in the day i had a system similar to this... 1090T + 6950 + 8GB DDR3 RAM, was my first full gaming PC. It was awesome, i was playing almost everything in ultra quality settings. I still have the OCZ power supply that i used in this pc
The M4N72-E in that build there wasn't a budget board. It was a decent SLI board used for gaming builds. It had been on the market for maybe a year when the Phenom II 1090t had been released, so not surprised at all at seeing it paired with a 1090t. This would have been considered a higher end gaming pc when the HD 6970 was released. What probably happened is the original owner moved to an entirely different platform, like a FX or Intel build with a new gpu, and carried over his original PSU and hard drives. The two sticks of higher quality ram were probably the only two sticks he ever used. I knew alot of people who were still gaming using Windows Xp back in 2012/2013. So if the original owner was doing that also, he wouldn't have needed more then 4gb of ram. Either way, higher end AM2+ boards in general were sold on the market still even when AM3 was released, and the price and performance difference between the two platforms wasn't much. Where you saw the major price difference though initially was in the ram cost.
Classy pringles socks, need a pair of those
ive been on the pawn shop side of this thing. when someone hocks a computer we look it up on ebay sold items, find a median listing, and divide that price by a factor of four. that's how much we buy it for. when the loan expires (or if it was just a sell) we pull the comp, multiply what we buy it for by a factor of 3 (more if it looks nice) and sell it at that price. you are going to get hit or miss performance. also pawn shops are the devil's work. ive seen every scam there was and i only worked the job 5 months.
Excellent and entertaining video thank you! What is the model of the Samsung screen - it looks great.
ACE Of Sweden PSU's are infamous for bursting into flames when being reviewed.
I think that my older desktop PC that I built with old parts is still going strong today. It has an Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 cpu that I was able to overclock to 3.26 ghz, 4 gb of ddr2 ram at 960 mhz, a GTX 570 graphics card, 180 gb intel ssd, and it runs Windows 11 fairly well. The C2Q Q9550 cpu from what I've seen is from early 2008 which is when Windows Vista would have been the latest and greatest operating system.
Latest maybe, but not greatest. There is a reason XP was supported for so long. At that time DX10 didn't really offer that much, but Vista had much higher system requirements. So the majority of people, gamers and non-gamers alike, stayed with XP. The only place where you'd see Vista was in OEM systems and at places where 64-bit was required.
@@HappyBeezerStudios I remember when I went to a public library in late 2012 and even then, their computers were still using Windows XP and this was even well after Windows 7 and even Windows 8 was released. I highly doubt that they still use Windows XP today though. Me personally, I really don't remember having too many issues with Windows Vista even when I used it for the first time in April of 2007. Of course I had a fairly high end PC at the time which was a Core 2 Duo 2.13 ghz with 2 gb of ram and a 7600 gs graphics card.
@@HappyBeezerStudios at least in the end, I don't think Windows Vista wasn't a bad operating system and at least from Microsoft, it did get the same amount of support as Windows 7, just a little over 10 years. It's just that allot of third party software providers seemed to hate Vista and decided to go ahead and end support on their software for Vista at the same time as XP even though Vista is over 5 years newer than XP.
I'm impressed with that CPU cooler. Seems easier to take out and clean...
Definitely, immediately thought about static when I saw the plastic-wrapped internals.
I sold a PC containing 1090t with 12GB DDR3 RAM plus Asus motherboard with USB 3 ports and Corsair Hx620 (No graphics card) for £120 a few months ago.
I think you can definitely get more than £80 if you split the components.
I have an old LG gaming PC that I got from a second hand shop for a tenner. It is silver and looks great, but it's that old, it still has a floppy drive in. I cannot find any information about the model on the internet?
Not sure if it works, but at the time of it's making, it will have been a beast of a PC, compared to normal PC's.
Oh hey, I had that same CPU cooler! And it's a wonder that Ace of Sweden PSU hasn't caught fire yet. They almost did it even while unplugged, lol
SSD + replacing the 1GB sticks with 2GB = legit decent budget gaming PC.
Ok, not the best bang for buck or the most power efficient but it would perform well.
One of the major things is when you assign the swap file (virtual RAM) to an SSD, the 8GB of actual RAM installed isn't such a big deal because it can swap active/inactive applications much quicker, and it feels much more like a modern system because there isn't that lag of the HDD trying to do all these things at once.
That is the point where you gladly sacrifice some of the cost efficiency for the simple enjoyment of tinkering around. That is what I do with my LGA775 build. I spend more time just swapping things out and testing half a dozen CPUs and how high I can get them.
Decent budget rig for gaming these days would love to see it upgraded to the motherboards max specs
I bet with a cheap SSD, some cleaning, and maybe even a big OC things will improve on that. Would like to see how far it can go. Show off that even older cheap systems can still do quite a bit.
Some really good components for the time, had the same CPU and a 6990. Had a 5770 before that and it was one of the best mid-tier budget cards I've ever seen in my life. Radeon cards were the shit back then. Unfortunately they followed up with some poor generations and I switched to Nvidia, never had a reason to go back.
As someone who built their first pc not too long ago in that case my lord do I hate it lmfao there is zero space to cable manage in the back with the system begging for airflow before you pull off that front plastic panel which was a must for my HD6950 which was later upgraded pull off the front plastic panel by the bottom throw an intake fan on there and youre solid if you wanna go the extra mile and rig some mesh as well to catch dust id recommend it
Finally some love for Birmingham 🥶💯😤
Ahhh Cashies... A garage sale with Deticated business hours, good find
TBF the ace brand PSU is not all that bad, well the one I inherited anyway, it was 5+ years old and it ran an OC 960 4gd for a good 4 years, 1 year OC'd, full disclosure I did replace it with a 550w Corsair mainly due to supply chain issues early covid & to match my new case😎
Socks, slippers and shorts. A man of style, I approve.
Cash Converters? I didn't think they existed anymore. Apparently we still have them in Canada, but I recall way back that one in my hometown was shut down for selling used bongs. lol.
As someone who watches pretty much every video, that dad comment really too me out, was not expecting that
Cashies is also called "Crime Converters". The fact this still plays GTAV 1080p 30fps is nuts.
I have a similar pc, a 1050t overclocked to 1090 level.
The slow updating is mainly a windows thing, mine runs Linux, and updating takes just minutes.