Unboxing and opening Seagate 5TB One Touch, Backup Plus and Expansion hard drives, shucking, shuck

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  • Опубликовано: 17 янв 2021
  • In this video I will unbox and shuck or open a Seagate 5TB One Touch and Seagate 5TB Expansion portable drive. Inside both enclosures I found Seagate 5TB Barracuda drives which look identical. I will be using these drives to create a 5TB RAID 1 volume inside a MediaSonic Dual Bay 2.5 Raid Enclosure with a USB C connection. This procedure is similar for all Seagate 1TB, 2TB, 3TB, 4TB, 5TB drives.
    DO NOT use Western Digital drives, they have a proprietary hard mounted connector instead of a standard SATA connector and cannot be used in a PC or another enclosure.
    I used this video to help me open the One Touch drive, the video describes a Backup Plus drive but both drives are identical so thanks to this user for that video, its a lot shorter and very useful:
    • Shucking HDD from Seag...
    Thanks for watching and please feel free to ask any questions.

Комментарии • 190

  • @TheRealJohnHooper
    @TheRealJohnHooper 2 года назад +18

    As a non PC tech enthusiasts.. I am quite shocked and amazed that you can acutally buy a 5TB external HD.. I still have my 500GB USB 2.0 Samsung drive, and just realized that thing is 11 years old.. Time flies.. It also did cost almost the same back in the days.. Just unbelievable..

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад +3

      Hi, Thanks for watching ... time definitely does fly, still remember buying my first 6GB hard drive :D

    • @Lishtenbird
      @Lishtenbird Год назад +1

      I mean, you can buy a 20TB external as long as 3.5" is fine.

  • @jamescameron1861
    @jamescameron1861 2 года назад +2

    Many thanks for this. I'll end up shucking a few of these for a storage project in a few months

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад +1

      Hi, Thanks for watching. Glad you found it useful. Let us know how it works out, always good to know different use cases for these drives :).

  • @DaveSimonH
    @DaveSimonH 3 года назад +9

    I'm glad I did a quick scan of Amazon reviews before buying a HDD, as I was initially looking at a WD drive but then read they used proprietary connectors. I have no plans (at least currently) to shuck the drive but I went with a Seagate just incase the enclosure was ever damaged, then I could simply get another enclosure.
    It's a shame WD are suing the proprietary connectors, as that's my typical go-to brand for HDDs, I've used many over the years in laptops, PS3's etc.
    Speaking of game consoles though, for anyone looking to upgrade a PS4 or XB1 internal HDD, I believe they max out at 9.5mm height 2.5" drives, so for example the 3-5TB Seagate drives are too tall at 15mm. You could still use the drives via USB though for games 'extended storage', same for the latest get consoles (XBSeries & PS5). You couldn't play their games directly from it (PS4 & XB1 games can tho), but you could store XBSX-S/PS5 games on the drive to save on having to re-download or re-install from disc.

    • @olakunlewinsome4898
      @olakunlewinsome4898 2 года назад

      a 4tb transcend external drive will do the job, it has the same slimness as the usual 500gb,and its detachable from ots conmector

  • @eldino
    @eldino 3 года назад +6

    Thank you for the video, extremely useful!

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  3 года назад +1

      Hi, Thanks for watching, glad you found it useful.

  • @ZadakLeader
    @ZadakLeader 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for this. I am thinking of taking the metal cover off and drill holes for passive ventilation in it. I did something similar with another external hdd enclosure and it did make a difference!

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  3 года назад

      Hi, Thanks for watching. That's a great idea, these drives do get warm under longer read/write operations which can be normal considering the drive could be used for frequent backups because of the size. Now you have got me thinking ... maybe I could modify the dual bay enclosure I have which houses two of these drives and that definitely gets warm!

    • @ZadakLeader
      @ZadakLeader 3 года назад +2

      @@TKsTechTalk Yeah, just a couple of 1-2mm holes is plenty!

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  3 года назад

      @@ZadakLeader Nice! I might have to consider this option. Thanks again for this input, hopefully will help others as well.

    • @ZadakLeader
      @ZadakLeader 3 года назад +1

      @@TKsTechTalk I just went ahead and did it. I did 4x4mm holes on top, 2x3*3mm holes columns on each side and 14 holes on the bottom, 5x4mm and 9x3mm. Hope this makes it cooler :)

    • @ZadakLeader
      @ZadakLeader 3 года назад +1

      So i am bitlocking it, which obviously means full load. The past 10 minutes it seems to have capped at 45 degrees, previously maximum was 53, so give or take it's at least a 8 degree improvement :D
      I think the risk of voiding warranty to keep your drive at a safe temperature is worth it imo.
      Heat only destroys the drive on the long run

  • @rednroll1
    @rednroll1 2 года назад +6

    Thanks for opening these up and showing what's inside. I just purchased (2) Seagate Barracuda 2.5in 5TB HDDs off of Amazon for $140 a piece, going to put them in a RAID 0 enclosure. Realized the Amazon drives have no Seagate warranty on them. Found these Seagate One Touch 5TB portable HDDs for $109 at Sam's Club. Looking at the model# on the label of the drives you opened (ST5000LM00), I'm now able to see it's the exact same internal 5TB 5400RPM 128MB Cache Barracuda drive I just purchase for $140. Thinking I'm going to return these Amazon drives and just go purchase the portable versions at Sam's and open them up like you did and put them in my RAID 0 enclosure instead. In that scenario, I'm paying less and know I'm getting a brand new non refurbed OEM drive. If I void the warranty, won't matter since I have that scenario now with my purchase from Amazon but at least I have a chance of putting it back together if I'm very careful and attempt a warranty return if needed. As an extra bonus, I will have 2 additional HDD enclosures if ever needed. Paying less and getting more in return seems like a good idea to me. Amazing how the exact same HDD without a case costs more than the portable version with a case.

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад

      Hi, Thanks for watching. I really appreciate the time you have taken to write this detailed comment and hope it helps others as well. Thanks!

  • @chankc4481
    @chankc4481 2 года назад +3

    thank you for your opening, seen likely internal protection of "one touch" is better than "expansion" & "backup plus" so much

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад +3

      Hi, Thanks for watching and you are welcome, glad you found it useful.

  • @Bong-Wi
    @Bong-Wi 2 года назад

    Thanks for the open. Now, I can buy Expansion for my NAS to change the broken old hard disk.

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад

      Hi, Thanks for watching, glad you found it useful.

  • @alimadrid9855
    @alimadrid9855 2 года назад +1

    Thank you I just bought one like this today Seagate 5TB One Touch

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад +1

      Hi, Thanks for watching. Glad you found it useful.

  • @samuelmm82
    @samuelmm82 3 года назад +6

    This is a great video! Thank you a lot!
    I just bought this hard disk, and I was wondering how to open it. I don't want to open, but I am curious when I buy a new device.
    Always it is useful to know how to open it, including when not needed (maybe shall to do in the future).
    From several years, I only buy Seagate hard disk due to connector piece to adapt HDD-USB.
    Others companies don't let us to do this, like WD. You can not extract the internal disk from external enclosure.
    For your information, external disk model is STKC5000400 (Seagate One Touch, also known in previous versions as BackUp Plus),
    and internal model is ST5000LM000 (Seagate Barracuda).
    P.D.: Sorry for your knife

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  3 года назад +2

      Hi, Thanks for watching. Glad you found it useful and yes I have to agree best to stick to Seagate for this option to easy remove the drive, and don't worry trusty kitchen knife's adventures will continue :)

  • @nuucner
    @nuucner Месяц назад

    very helpful vide, thanks a lot) i have one with 2tb volume too, and after two years of exploitation im ready to buy another one but 4 tb for safer backups) i thinks this hdd is pretty reliable because i have one internal (barracuda 3.5 7200rpm) of NOV 2019 manufactured and its still working good (exept for one recent problems with strange sounds, which was fixed by native windows tools automaticly btw, but nothing was lost which is main thing)

  • @jadhal6649
    @jadhal6649 5 месяцев назад

    I have old laptop it has 500 gb hdd.
    Can old hdd size is same as 5 tb Seagate one touch hdd after shucking.
    So can I used in my laptop for more TB data storage.
    If size is same ?

  • @botgames2802
    @botgames2802 3 года назад +3

    very informative. thanks

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  3 года назад +1

      Hi, Thanks for watching glad you found it informative.

  • @TheRealJohnHooper
    @TheRealJohnHooper 2 года назад +6

    There is a new 2021 model: STKM5000400 or STKN5000400
    It seems to be a brand new 2021 model, with a cool design and I got the 5TB version for 105 Euro.. 😀

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад +2

      Hi, Thanks for watching. Oh that's an interesting find. I have LM drives from both enclosures, wonder what the differences are? Thanks for sharing, might help others who are watching too.

  • @camkb5299
    @camkb5299 2 года назад +1

    Very informative video....you got a new sub!

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад

      hi, thanks for watching glad you found it informative and I really appreciate your sub, thank you!

  • @MultiVde
    @MultiVde 2 года назад +1

    Very useful thank you

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад

      Hi, Thanks for watching. Glad you found this useful.

  • @christ6598
    @christ6598 6 месяцев назад

    Is the hdd same with st5000lm000? Just like the seagate barracuda 5tb 2.5?

  • @eagletech1098
    @eagletech1098 2 года назад +1

    Thank you so much

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад

      Hi, thanks for watching. You are most welcome glad you found it useful.

  • @mikehang1908
    @mikehang1908 2 года назад +1

    Thank you, I was just wondering what model disk was being used in this unit. Basically the Compute Series of Barracuda Drives.

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад

      hi, thanks for watching and you are welcome glad it was useful.

  • @etv7846
    @etv7846 3 года назад +7

    good thing you warned people not to buy western digital portable drives. many people see WD cheap and buy them not knowing that western digital drives cannot be shuckle like seagate ones.

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  3 года назад +4

      Thanks for watching, yes I think most other drives except WD can be opened and reused hope others don't make this mistake.

    • @deeppurplefan
      @deeppurplefan Год назад +2

      @@TKsTechTalk You can easily shuck and put back together WD Mybook and Elements drives without voiding the warranty.

    • @deeppurplefan
      @deeppurplefan Год назад +1

      You can easily shuck and put back together WD MyBook and Elements drives without voiding the warranty.

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  Год назад +1

      @@deeppurplefan Hi, Thanks for watching. I really appreciate your input, this is good to know and hopefully will help others as well. All the best, TK :).

  • @Javivi_Arte
    @Javivi_Arte Год назад

    Thanks for video

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  Год назад

      Hi, Thanks for watching. You are most welcome and glad you found it useful. All the best, TK :).

  • @manasshrivastava9013
    @manasshrivastava9013 4 месяца назад

    can you please link the sata enclosure

  • @TimYo187
    @TimYo187 3 года назад +9

    Thanks for helping me make up my mind on which external HD brand to go with lol. I’ve been looking around for the right one to go in a pc for a game drive, kept noticing WD drives have the connectors soldered to the board. 🤙🏼

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  3 года назад +1

      Hi, Thanks for watching. You are welcome, and yes it's better to buy Seagate external drives (at least for the portable range) as they can be removed. As for drive longevity seems like a lottery for any brand so I guess we leave that part to luck :).

    • @dwray
      @dwray 3 года назад +1

      The WD easystore drives from best buy are shuckable. They have Red drives in them. If your looking for 2.5" for your pc, go seagate. If you can do 3.5", the easystore drives are better as they are not SMR drives.

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  3 года назад

      @@dwray That's correct the larger 3.5" external WD drives are shuckable and I have done this in the past in the days of 500GB. With respect to the EasyStore containing WD Red Drives (or white label red drives as you mentioned in another comment) I believe any 3.5" drive up to 6TB is an SMR drive (including Red Plus drives, except Red Pro which are all CMR) as per Western Digital at the link below:
      blog.westerndigital.com/wd-red-nas-drives/
      Also, if you do get a White label Red drive, there may be an issue with voltage depending on use, if I recall correctly there is a fix for the 3.3v pin issue. Again this may not be an issue for every use case but there is a fix which should be easy to apply.
      If you want a guaranteed Red Drive, I believe the My Book Duo (probably My Cloud Duo as well) is explicitly advertised with Red Drives and are upgradeable with an easy to open mechanism as well so no need to shuck, these are obviously much more expensive external drives so again depends on use, and sometimes they have great deals on them.
      Hope that helps and thanks for watching.

  • @kushalraj
    @kushalraj 3 года назад +7

    An Ifixit kit would make your life a lot easier and would be safer

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  3 года назад +3

      Hi, Thanks for watching. I couldn't agree more and I highly recommend anyone trying this to get some proper tools. For now though ... the adventures of TK and TTKK (The Trusty Kitchen Knife) must continue :)

  • @Smexy_af
    @Smexy_af 2 года назад +1

    Hi, that was a great review. Are both of these SMR?
    Also is the Seagate backup plus hub 4tb an SMR drive or a CMR drive?
    Is there an external CMR drive by either Seagate or WD?

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад +2

      Hi, Thanks for watching.
      It will be hard to say if the external drive will have a CMR or SMR drive. You will find from various posts that the internal drives inside the external drives do vary, guess it depends on what the manufacturers have available so its a bit of pot luck.
      The Seagate drive in this video and all 2.5 drives appear to be SMR and Seagate has a webpage which lists SMR and CMR drives.
      www.seagate.com/em/en/internal-hard-drives/cmr-smr-list/
      Western Digital has mixed drives depending on capacity, here's an example of WD Blue 2.5 inch:
      shop.westerndigital.com/products/internal-drives/wd-blue-mobile-sata-hdd#WD5000LPCX
      There is a small text on the webpage which shows for this particular model 500GB and less is CMR, 1TB and 2TB are SMR.
      Another site below has a large list of SMR and CMR drives and they have a great you tube channel as well (nascompares):
      nascompares.com/answer/list-of-wd-cmr-and-smr-hard-drives-hdd/
      The last thing to add here is that I to the best of my knowledge the Western Digital My Book Duo enclosures house two WD red drives, which again could be SMR or CMR depending on capacity but these drives are also considerably more costly so will depend on use case and needs.
      Hope that helps.

  • @baileym43ish
    @baileym43ish Год назад +1

    good video. i learned my lesson with Western Digital drives. they use that weird PCB which renders the entire drive *nearly useless if something happens to the board in any way.
    *"nearly" because somebody somewhere can repair them. that someone is not me.

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  Год назад +1

      Hi, Thanks for watching. Glad you found it useful. Yes I agree about WD and what's worse is sometimes its just the enclosure that fails but in WD's case with that unique board as you rightly said there is no way you can check if its just the connector or the actual hard drive, they really should make it better for consumers. Worst thing is most people don't even know. All the best, TK.

    • @brentsummers7377
      @brentsummers7377 Год назад

      A similar thing used to happen with 3.5 inch external drives from Seagate and WD. That tiny USB to SATA board would fail & you'd think the drive was dead. However, if you took it apart and put the 3.5 inch hard drive in a PC it would be perfectly fine.

  • @dim_next
    @dim_next 3 года назад +2

    Are these drives about the same in terms of speeds? What should I pick: Expansion plus or One touch?

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  3 года назад +2

      Hi, thanks for watching the drives I extracted in the video are more or less the same. I believe they are 5400rpm drives and in my RAID 1 configuration in the enclosure i described I am getting about 120MB/s for read and write which is typical for an external 2.5 inch spinning disk. I think you should buy whichever is cheaper if you plan to open it, otherwise the One Touch drive may have a longer warranty like the Backup Plus if you plan to use it externally, hope that helps.

  • @emaksoud
    @emaksoud 3 года назад +1

    thank you

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  3 года назад

      You are welcome and thanks for watching.

  • @AyratHungryStudent
    @AyratHungryStudent Год назад +2

    RIP old trusty kitchen knife.

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  Год назад

      Hi, Thanks for watching. Oh TTKK continues it's adventures ... until it's last unboxing :D.

  • @Deadmeme64
    @Deadmeme64 2 года назад +4

    Hey, thanks for the video. Is the drive larger than 2.5"? It looks a bit taller than normal laptop drives.

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад +8

      Hi, Thanks for watching. Yes that's correct, generally any drive up to 2TB is 7.5mm thick and anything from 3TB to 5TB is 15mm thick which means it cannot be installed into any laptop. A drive with 7.5mm thickness can be installed inside a laptop with a compatible bay and also the PS4. A 15mm drive can probably be used in a PS4 with some modification. Hope that helps.

  • @felipeoliveira895
    @felipeoliveira895 Год назад +2

    Amazing! How thick is it in mm? I want to use it inside a mini pc, but the max supported thickness is 7mm.
    Do you think they are reliable to use in a NAS?

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  Год назад +1

      Hi, Thanks for watching and glad you found it useful. So all drives up to and including 2TB in 2.5" form factor are 7mm all drives 3TB and above are 15mm so not ideal for laptop or small form factor use.
      As for use in a NAS, i believe most if not all 2.5" drives are CMR and may not be ideal for NAS. You could probably still use them though there could be some performance and reliability issues and this will vary between drives. Just to add to this I know there are specific 2.5" NAS solutions available so I guess people do use similar drives or NAS rated SSD's.
      Hope that helps, all the best, TK :).

  • @ABach-ld2oc
    @ABach-ld2oc Год назад

    Do you have any videos about how to recover data from a drive that is not reading? I have a portable 4 tb from seagate and it just recently stopped working. I can her it whirring, but nothing on screen. Any advice will be appreciated.

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  Год назад

      Hi, Thanks for watching. Firstly sorry to hear about your experience, this can be quite upsetting especially if you had important data on it, I have been there too.
      So in the past I have a friend who experienced a similar issue. In that case, I asked them to purchase another enclosure and I removed the drive from its original enclosure and put it into the new enclosure. This fixed the problem as it looks like the enclosure itself developed a fault.
      One thing to note here is as you have a 4TB drive it will probably have a height of 15mm so if you plan to try this make sure the new enclosure you buy supports drive heights up to 15mm. You could also buy a dock or a simple USB to SATA external connector to see if the drive is working or if you if have a spare SATA controller on a PC you could just plug it in directly to the computers power supply and motherboard SATA connector via a SATA cable, the PSU will most likely have a spare SATA connector for power.
      If this does not work, I assume the drive has probably developed a fault in which case check with Seagate (I think you can check it on their website via serial number) to see if the drive is still covered and if it had any free data recovery when you purchased it, if not I think they will charge a lot of money to retrieve the data.
      It's hard to tell if it's the drive or enclosure, but I would imagine if you see nothing when you connect the drive and no external device in device manager (assuming you are using windows), there is a chance it is just that the enclosure is faulty.
      Sorry I couldn't give a definite answer, but I hope this helps and let us know how you get on. All the best, TK :).

  • @i.a565
    @i.a565 3 года назад +1

    Thanks

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  3 года назад

      Hi, Thanks for watching and you are welcome.

  • @cryptclown
    @cryptclown 3 года назад

    Can u put some other random hdd and put it in the old enclosure and use that usb to sata connector?

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  3 года назад

      Hi, Thanks for watching. Yes you can use another 2.5 inch SATA laptop drive into the old enclosure. Not sure how a thinner (7 or 9.5mm) drive will stay without moving too much but you could try padding it with something to reduce the movement. Hope that helps.

  • @ZutiDIY
    @ZutiDIY 2 года назад

    Hi,what's the difference between expansion and one touch hard drive.thank you.

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад

      Hi, Thanks for watching. I answered this in another question but below is a brief overview:
      Expansion - Is the basic offering of an external portable drive. Available upto 5TB (with slim drives upto 2TB)
      Backup Plus - Has longer warranty (2 years instead of 1) and includes backup software and Rescue Data Recovery Services. Internally I believe the drives are the same or very similar.
      Available upto 5TB (with slim drives upto 2TB)
      One Touch - Looks very similar to Backup Plus and I think it replaces (or will eventually replace) Backup Plus. It also lists to include a 1 year subscription to Mylio Create which appears to be a photo management app.
      HDD available up to 5TB (with slim drives upto 2TB)
      Ultra Touch - Same features as One Touch but includes security through Password + AES-256 Encryption. Currently available only in 1TB and 2TB, both appear to be slim drives.
      Hope that helps. Feel free to ask anything else.

    • @ZutiDIY
      @ZutiDIY 2 года назад +1

      @@TKsTechTalk thank you.

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад

      @@ZutiDIY you are welcome.

  • @MikeleKonstantyFiedorowiczIV
    @MikeleKonstantyFiedorowiczIV 3 года назад +1

    is case aluminium or plastic?

  • @muhammadnurazlansaadon1504
    @muhammadnurazlansaadon1504 2 года назад

    Thanks for teardown video..... i cannot buy a toshiba and western digital because insude hdd equipped with usb hdd

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад

      hi, thanks for watching. yes thats correct not all portable external drives have standard sata connectors so good to check before purchasing.

  • @jj-he8ty
    @jj-he8ty 2 года назад

    Really thank you

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад +1

      Hi, Thanks for watching. You are most welcome and glad you found it useful.

    • @jj-he8ty
      @jj-he8ty 2 года назад +1

      @@TKsTechTalk caz i have the same product, u give me good information before i open it

  • @rawfish123
    @rawfish123 Год назад

    You said you raided 2 in an enclosure. These are SMR drives, are you using this as an archive drive or are there frequent modifications. Notice any performance issues?

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  Год назад

      Hi, thanks for watching. That's correct I believe almost all 2.5" drives currently available are SMR. Until now I have been using it as a RAID 1 array for backup and has been functioning fine so the changes are not so frequent and performance has been great. The only thing I can say is that the drives obviously do get hot in the enclosure I use as it doesn't have the best cooling so for large copies over 100GB it can get hot. However when I was first filling up the drive copying around 100GB at a time there was no slow down from the 130MB/s at least for large files, so the drives appear to work ok. Hope that helps, all the best, TK :).

  • @rajupatel-js1qd
    @rajupatel-js1qd Год назад +1

    What is the dimensions of this drive after removing from the case? Actually I want to put it in my laptop in the plase of DVD CD reader. Can it be there?

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  Год назад

      Hi, Thanks for watching. Unfortunately this drive will not fit inside the laptop. I believe this and all 2.5" 3TB, 4TB and 5TB drives are 15mm in height and laptops mostly support 7mm drives so the max you can get is probably a 2TB drive. You could do the exact same thing with something like the Seagate Expansion 2tb external portable drive, I have done this in the past. Alternatively you could look for 2.5" SATA SSD's as well as they should all be 7mm and they have come down in price quite a lot and would be faster and more beneficial in the long run. Hope that helps, all the best, TK :).

  •  2 года назад +1

    thanks

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад +1

      Hi, Thanks for watching. Glad you found it useful.

  • @om_com_verse
    @om_com_verse 3 года назад +3

    What's the difference/s among
    1. Backup plus
    2. Ultra touch
    3. One touch
    4. Expansion hdd
    Someone please answer what is/are the main difference/s?
    Really, I am exhausted which one to buy?
    Thanks.

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  3 года назад +9

      Hi, Thanks for watching. Apologies for the delayed response.
      So I'm assuming that you are asking primarily about the portable drives and will answer to the best of my knowledge. Some also have an SSD version which we will not discuss here to stay in context of this video. Hope that's ok.
      Internally all of these drives are 2.5" SATA HDD's. The thickness will vary based on storage size. Usually up to 2TB the drives are 7mm to 9.5mm. 3TB and above are typically 15mm in height, such as the one described in this video. Laptops usually support a max of 9.5mm and though there are 12mm drives which can fit some older laptops, these are more difficult to find.
      Below is a brief description of each:
      Expansion - Is the basic offering of an external portable drive. Available upto 5TB (with slim drives upto 2TB)
      Backup Plus - Has longer warranty (2 years instead of 1) and includes backup software and Rescue Data Recovery Services. Internally I believe the drives are the same or very similar.
      Available upto 5TB (with slim drives upto 2TB)
      One Touch - Looks very similar to Backup Plus and I think it replaces (or will eventually replace) Backup Plus. It also lists to include a 1 year subscription to Mylio Create which appears to be a photo management app.
      HDD available up to 5TB (with slim drives upto 2TB)
      Ultra Touch - Same features as One Touch but includes security through Password + AES-256 Encryption. Currently available only in 1TB and 2TB, both appear to be slim drives.
      Hope that helps. Feel free to ask anything else.

    • @om_com_verse
      @om_com_verse 3 года назад +1

      @@TKsTechTalk Yes, that's what I needed. So, ultra touch is the latest and most featured hdd than others. Okay. Thanks.

  • @thorbennielsen3845
    @thorbennielsen3845 2 года назад

    Does anybody know any NAS with RAID 5 support these disk will work with?

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад

      Hi, Thanks for watching. To the best of my knowledge I would imagine any RAID 5 enclosure which supports 2.5 inch drives should work, however I do not think it is recommended to use these drives like that, would probably not last too long and also may not get the best performance from them. It would be best to use enterprise grade 2.5 inch drives similar to the 2.5 inch EXOS drives in the link below:
      www.seagate.com/em/en/products/enterprise-drives/exos-e/?cmpid=smc-spiceworks&
      Hope that helps.

  • @sidewwinder
    @sidewwinder 2 года назад

    What if to insert this HDD into laptop? The size of its HDD bay allows to do that

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад

      Hi, Thanks for watching. Though this is a standard laptop size drive with standard SATA connectors, the issue is that the drive is 15mm thick which is way too deep for any laptop I can think of. The safer option would be the slim version of this drive in up to 2TB capacities, they should fit into most laptops that support 2.5 inch drives at 7mm thickness. Hope that helps.

  • @jbmarine0612
    @jbmarine0612 Год назад

    Accidentally dropped it ona floor. Table height, will that mess it up?

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  Год назад +1

      Hi, thanks for watching. What type of surface did you drop it on and do you see any external physical damage? is it still working? I think generally from table height shouldn't cause too many issues with the drive, though i guess it would vary between drives. I remember a long long time ago throwing a hard drive to try to make it read though i can't remember if that worked :). Hope your drive is ok, all the best, TK :).

  • @mattmarcotte5476
    @mattmarcotte5476 3 года назад

    Curious of the difference as fas as software goes.. We call all buy a faster drive (SSD>7200rpm>5400rpm) but the software for the average person matters.. Could also be the difference in your questions.

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  3 года назад

      Hi, Thanks for watching. Firstly, I apologize for the delayed response been away for a while

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  3 года назад

      oops ... hit send before actually replying. So just to clarify if i understand correctly. The software I am referring to is software that a user may use, for example a game, office productivity software, video editing software etc or even just for long term storage. The benefits of each drive will vary based on a users needs and faster isn't always better, though this is the way the industry is headed. Hope that helps, feel free to ask anything else.

  • @elderizm
    @elderizm 2 года назад

    The drive itself can fit into a laptop? I asking because I can't afford to buy regular drive, living in a hyperinflation country and exchange rates killing me.

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад

      Hi, Thanks for watching. Unfortunately this drive is 15mm thick and most laptops can only support drives which are up to 9mm thick. If you wish to do something similar you could opt for a 2TB model which should mostly be 7mm or 9.5mm thick and would recommend checking which thickness your laptop can support. Just to add it has to be a 2.5 inch drive which is usually a portable external drive if you wish to open it. However, having said that I know it is a much more expensive option but if you opt for SSD you can get up to 8TB drives which should easily fit most laptops with a 2.5 inch bay but this will also give you much better performance for speed. Hope that helps.

  • @davidjamescampbell
    @davidjamescampbell 3 года назад +3

    Great video, thank you for posting. I’m looking to do something similar with these drives.
    Do you have anything you can share on the performance of two of these drives in Raid 0? I’d love to hear your experience.

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  3 года назад +1

      Hi, Thanks for watching. That's a good question I'm currently using the drives in a Raid 1 configuration in the enclosure described. I did test the enclosure in the 4 supported modes which are Raid 0/1, Single and JBOD. Unfortunately, I didn't think to test the transfer speed when in RAID 0 so at this stage I can only assume in RAID 0 it will be almost double the single disk transfer rate. Currently I am achieving about 115MB/s (these are 5400rpm disks so I guess that's about right) in RAID 1, so I would expect a maximum speed around 200MB/s in RAID 0, I'm sure this could vary with the controller being used.
      My only concern now is with the RAID 1 volume at 3.5 TB used I would have to break the RAID to test it ... if I do end up testing the performance I will definitely let you know. Hope that helps, feel free to ask any other questions.

  • @alfredofenoglio
    @alfredofenoglio 3 года назад +2

    Great Video. What is the height of the drive? It looks thicker than the normal ones.

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  3 года назад +4

      Hi, Thanks for watching. That's correct, basically any 2.5" drive which is 3TB, 4TB or 5TB is generally 15mm thick, so can't be used in a laptop but can be used in a PC with a 3.5 to 2.5 bay. You can get some enclosures like the one I described which can support two of these drives for RAID array. Hope that helps.

    • @olakunlewinsome4898
      @olakunlewinsome4898 2 года назад

      if you are looking to upgrade a PlayStation or xbox console, you should consider the transcend storejet 25h3 4tb

  • @LitMadHatter
    @LitMadHatter 2 года назад

    Are there lists for Seagate drives that use propertiery soldiered USB?

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад

      Hi, Thanks for watching. To the best of my knowledge most if not all Seagate drives do not have proprietary soldiered connectors so should be able to shuck them as described, however drives like WD 2.5" portable drives usually use soldered connectors, possibly some other brands too. Hope that helps.

    • @LitMadHatter
      @LitMadHatter 2 года назад

      @@TKsTechTalk Thanks for responding to comments a year later. That is useful information to keep in mind, thanks.

  • @manjubashinisubbukrishnan8793
    @manjubashinisubbukrishnan8793 Год назад +1

    I was given this link by Seagate to open my hard disk and recover the data on my own as mine is out of warranty and there is nothing much they can do other than sharing links. Will it work ?

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  Год назад

      Hi, Thanks for watching. wait ... Seagate gave you a link to my video? That's strange!
      Well it depends, I have done this in the past for a friend and it turned out the enclosure was damaged and testing in a new enclosure the drive worked fine. So you could try this anyway as it is not working, but if you have a drive bigger than 2TB make sure to buy an enclosure which supports 15mm drives, you could also buy a standalone USB to sata connector if you just want to get the data off. Let us know how you get on, all the best, TK :).

    • @manjubashinisubbukrishnan8793
      @manjubashinisubbukrishnan8793 Год назад

      @@TKsTechTalk Out of goodwill. Yes, they gave this link and a recovery software to try retrieve my data. I am scared to open the case , what if I damage the drive?! I'm confused. Anyway, I'm going to give it go asap. Hoping to update a positive response.

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  Год назад

      @@manjubashinisubbukrishnan8793 ok, i hope it works out for you, let us know how you get on, really hope you can recover your data. Feel free to ask any other questions.

    • @manjubashinisubbukrishnan8793
      @manjubashinisubbukrishnan8793 Год назад

      @@TKsTechTalk thank you. Really kind of you. The hard disk got recognised by the file recovery software after a long struggle. Right now it's analysing the device - 12h 37min and running. Phase 1 of 5, 0 files found. I'm giving live updates 😄 don't know how long will it take. Also last night it ran for more than 6 hrs, I fell asleep and woke up to my desktop wallpaper. Don't know what happened.

  • @InhumanArcher
    @InhumanArcher Год назад

    I have a 5tb segate one touch but it only shows 900gb any idea why? I tried re-formatting it and everything

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  Год назад

      Hi, Thanks for watching. If you are using windows, have you checked in disk management to see how big the drive partition is? You can do this by right clicking the windows button and selecting disk management from the list of options. Make sure that there is only 1 partition and if it is 900GB must be a faulty drive. Where did you buy the drive from? There is a chance the drive is not genuine and maybe you should return it if you can. Hope that helps let us know how you get on. All the best, TK :).

    • @InhumanArcher
      @InhumanArcher Год назад +1

      @@TKsTechTalk bought it form flea market -_- thought it was a good deal because because it was 50 dollars instead it being 100 or more

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  Год назад

      @@InhumanArcher Sometimes its hard to turn down a good deal and as you will see from my channel I do also review cheaper products to see if they can achieve the right value. Unfortunately, sometimes we do stumble upon deals which may be too good to be true and this could be the case with you purchase which is unfortunate, too many dishonest sellers with imitation or faulty items for sale. Sometimes it does happen with well known retailers where staff may remove the actual item from the box. I myself have once received a graphics card with a screw loose in the packaging. Sorry to hear that you seem to have been in this situation.

    • @InhumanArcher
      @InhumanArcher Год назад +1

      @@TKsTechTalk well thanks anyway

    • @MrJoeysmacks
      @MrJoeysmacks Год назад

      @@InhumanArcher lookup diskpart and clean the drive see if that helps

  • @igorpupkinable
    @igorpupkinable 2 года назад

    Thank you for opening it. I had to make sure 2 enclosures had the same drive inside before getting One Touch. Expansion Portable model is 50% more expensive for no reason. Looks like Expansion Portable line was phased out.

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад

      Hi thanks for watching, glad you found it useful

  • @ccpoundher5268
    @ccpoundher5268 Год назад +1

    Hey do you know if your drives are still under warranty ?

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  Год назад

      Hi, Thanks for watching. I am pretty sure the warranty is voided once the drive is removed from the casing. Hope that helps, all the best, TK :).

  • @3ehome915
    @3ehome915 2 года назад +1

    Goòd...

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад

      Hi, Thanks for watching. Appreciate your kind comment and glad you found it useful. All the best, TK :).

    • @3ehome915
      @3ehome915 2 года назад

      @@TKsTechTalk tôi cũng vừa mua loại Hdd này để dùng và thấy tuyệt vời

  • @shantanusharma3766
    @shantanusharma3766 2 года назад

    Can u plzz tell which one is good for me to buy 🙏🏻

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад

      Hi, Thanks for watching. So internally most of these drives are the same just some with additional warranty and software. It depends what will be your main use. If you plan to open it like I did any of the drives from Seagate should be sufficient as they are more or less the same drives inside. If you plan to just use for storage and not too concerned about additional features again any of the Seagate range should give comparable performance. Hope that helps feel free to ask anything else.

  • @sembangsembang6405
    @sembangsembang6405 Год назад

    I opened the 4tb version. What buffle me it 2x 2000GB samsung HDD inside combine into one. Setup like raid 0. It read as 1 partion and read almost 3.7TB cant remember. Doesnt look like the one in this video using only 1 Hdd but thicker

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  Год назад +1

      Hi, Thanks for watching. I think its highly likely that this might not be a genuine Seagate drive. I have not seen annything like this to date, but was it in official packaging? Do you have a similar external casing to the drive in this video? I don't understand why it would have 2 x samsung drives either, im pretty sure all seagate shucked drives I can find online show seagate drives inside. Personally I don't think this would be a viable solution for Seagate as it creates 1 extra possibility for drive and RAID controller to fail as well as added heat in such a small area. Where did you buy it from, do you have a link?

    • @sembangsembang6405
      @sembangsembang6405 Год назад +1

      @@TKsTechTalk yes, the outside case is similar to this video. Bought it few years ago from retail shop. Not sure if it genuine or not because i can store almost 3TB file. Hdd just getting slow to detect and pc getting not responding. Im decide to open the case and install direct to my pc, and that what happened. So far i do nothing, not splitting the drive afraid of losing the data. Im going to purchase new drive and backup it 1st, becoz i think the drive getting failure i guess.

    • @sembangsembang6405
      @sembangsembang6405 Год назад +1

      @@TKsTechTalk and yes i think u are right. Probably not genuine product becoz why would seagate put other HDD brand inside instead of their own brand, right? Well atleast im glad the product never failed me so far. Love your video by the way

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  Год назад

      @@sembangsembang6405 yes backing up first is the right path, would highly not recommend connecting to any other device before backing up as you don't want to break the RAID which will only work with a certain controller.

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  Год назад

      @@sembangsembang6405 Thank you I really appreciate the comment and support. I'm glad the drive has served you well :), at least you were able to use it without failure till now.

  • @herrmajic6150
    @herrmajic6150 2 года назад

    I'm kinda PC Noob
    Can you plug this in pc without opening it and puting inside that case you got ?
    Tnx ^^

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад

      Hi, Thanks for watching. Yes you can connect it via the provided USB 3.0 cable to your PC's USB port. This video is just to demonstrate that you can remove the drive from the enclosure and use it inside a PC or another enclosure if required. Hope that helps.

  • @ys621
    @ys621 2 года назад

    How come you shucked a drive like this rather than just buying a drive on its own? I understand if these were second hand but they looked new?

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад +1

      Hi, Thanks for watching. For me the main reason is the price and availability. Generally what I have found is that trying to buy a drive like this is difficult depending on where you are based and also the price is higher than buying it as an external drive. I think this is because there are more use cases for a portable external 5tb drive than a 15mm drive which fits in limited devices since most laptops can take hdd upto 9mm. I guess if you buy the drive on its own you still get the warranty so thats obviously something to consider. These are the same reasons you will see people shucking desktop size external drives to extract HDD's for their NAS systems or even in a PC, and when they are on offer they are even more cost effective. Hope that helps.

    • @ys621
      @ys621 2 года назад

      @@TKsTechTalk Cool thanks for the context. Wild that it can be cheaper to buy an external drive like this than the drive inside on it's own. Capitalism, ey.

  • @thorbennielsen3845
    @thorbennielsen3845 Год назад +1

    Does this drive have a standard sata connector?

    • @thorbennielsen3845
      @thorbennielsen3845 Год назад +1

      Looks like it does :-)

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  Год назад +1

      Hi, Thanks for watching. Yes that's correct it does. But it will not fit in a laptop incase you need it for that use max 2TB drives.

  • @joejoe-xk3sj
    @joejoe-xk3sj 2 года назад

    can we put the hard drive in a laptop and a ps4?

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад

      Hi, Thanks for watching. I believe the drive limit on PS4 is 8TB for external I think this drive should work in the original PS4 with some modification to the case where the HDD sits because the PS4 typically fits 7mm drives and this is a 15mm drive, there are some videos of people installing a 4TB drive of similar thickness to the 5TB into the PS4. Hope that helps.

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад

      Forgot to add, you cannot install it in most if not all laptops because the drive is way too thick at 15mm. If you need a spinning disk you can go for a 2TB 7mm drive or if you choose to opt for SSD then you can go all the way up to 8TB depending on budget because all SATA 2.5" drives are usually 7mm.

  • @trshcln6937
    @trshcln6937 7 месяцев назад

    Why didn’t u just buy an internal drive?

  • @GeckoNavigator
    @GeckoNavigator 2 года назад

    Will this could be use as internal ?

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад

      Hi, Thanks for watching. It can be used in a desktop PC or even another enclosure or 3.5 inch drive bay NAS enclosure, but it cannot be used in a laptop as most laptops that support 2.5 inch SATA SSD's have a max drive height of 9mm and this drive is 15mm. Hope that helps.

    • @GeckoNavigator
      @GeckoNavigator 2 года назад +1

      @@TKsTechTalk much thank. Your comment save me alot of money.

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад

      @@GeckoNavigator no problem and you are most welcome.

  • @judithhoward101
    @judithhoward101 3 года назад +1

    They offered 2 to

  • @PJ-if4ju
    @PJ-if4ju 3 года назад

    How’s the drive holding up?

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  3 года назад

      HI, Thanks for watching. So far so good. Though I would like to say that I am using two drives in an enclosure in a RAID 1 configuration and only use it for backups, so far about 4TB used and still going strong. I know this experience can vary by user but hopefully most will be good. Hope that helps, feel free to ask anything else.

    • @PJ-if4ju
      @PJ-if4ju 3 года назад +1

      @@TKsTechTalk thanks for replying how is drive's S.M.A.R.T holding up .

  • @AJ_Aslam
    @AJ_Aslam 3 года назад +1

    Ohhh no, the trusted knife has broken!

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  3 года назад

      A sad day indeed, but Fear not Trusty Kitchen Knife's adventures will continue till it falls apart.

  • @Alex_Martz
    @Alex_Martz 2 года назад +1

    ALL of the Seagate external 5TB hard drives have the SAME model of HD inside, it's the ST5000LM000 the only difference is the bundled software, case design and encryption, so it's better to buy the Basic model that is almost half the price instead of the most expensive backup plus version as they have the same drive inside and better use your own backup software and encryption

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад +1

      Hi, Thanks for watching. Appreciate the info, hopefully this will help others as well.

  • @snick3639
    @snick3639 Год назад +1

    is this how Jason Voorhees shucks a hard drive

  • @MrJoeysmacks
    @MrJoeysmacks Год назад +1

    you have to bang the drive harder on the table 😄

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  Год назад

      Hi, Thanks for watching. LOL ... thanks for the tip I will try that next time!

  • @localvav7249
    @localvav7249 2 года назад

    Does this work for PS4?

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад

      Hi, Thanks for watching. I believe the drive limit on PS4 is 8TB for external i think this drive should work in the original PS4 with some modification to the case where the HDD sits, there are some videos of people installing a 4TB drive of similar thickness to the 5TB into the PS4. Hope that helps.

  • @firozaansari7585
    @firozaansari7585 2 года назад

    Please sir big encloser link..

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад +1

      Hi, thanks for watching. If it helps I bought this from amazon.com and shipped to UAE, not sure where else you can get it:
      www.amazon.com/Mediasonic-ProRaid-USB-C-Drive-Enclosure/dp/B07581Z9PD/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=mediasonic+enclosure+2.5&qid=1630860711&sr=8-4
      Hope that helps.

    • @firozaansari7585
      @firozaansari7585 2 года назад

      @@TKsTechTalk thank you sir..🤝😊

  • @ahmedameen5082
    @ahmedameen5082 3 года назад

    can i use it in my laptops

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  3 года назад +2

      HI, Thanks for watching. Unfortunately this drive has a thickness of 15mm and I don't know any laptop which can currently take a drive that thick, I also think this will probably never happen as it would make the laptop itself too thick as well.
      For most current laptops the maximum drive thickness if it has a 2.5" sata bay is 7mm or 9.5mm, which are mostly SSD's or spinning disks up to 2TB. If you buy the 2TB Slim version from Seagate it will be possible to install inside a laptop, but I would make sure you check the thickness your laptop model supports and ensure you buy a drive of matching thickness.
      The only other way to get more than 2TB's in a 2.5" laptop bay is by using a 4TB or 8TB SSD, which can be very expensive but will provide much better performance. Hope that helps.

  • @MuckSpreader99
    @MuckSpreader99 2 года назад +1

    I did that with a 1TB portable quite a few years ago. Some portable drives use an embedded USB3 connector, not an adapter like the drive shown, so do your homework first.

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад +1

      Hi, thanks for watching. You are absolutely correct and i'm not sure if you watched the whole video, but I clearly gave an example of brands like Western Digital which use their own connectors (possibly usb 3.0 as you mentioned) and its even mentioned in the description of this video. I believe one purpose of this is to make the enclosure as small as possible and the other possibly so people don't shuck.

    • @MuckSpreader99
      @MuckSpreader99 2 года назад +1

      @@TKsTechTalk Just to avoid any misunderstanding, I wasn't referring you in person, just people in general :-)

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад +1

      @@MuckSpreader99 Thank you, makes sense :)

  • @andysgriff1965
    @andysgriff1965 3 года назад

    I find rhese drives way too slow

  • @TheSaint135
    @TheSaint135 2 года назад

    371 euros?!?!?! I just paid $89 dollars for the same in costco USA

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад

      hi thanks for watching sorry maybe my voice was not clear it was Dhirams UAE currency not Euros which is closer to 90 or 100 USD. sorry for the confusion.

  • @Nathan15038
    @Nathan15038 11 месяцев назад

    No trustee kitchen knife doesn’t have a nice pointed tip anymore. Hopefully trustee kitchen knife is still the same knife. 😭🙏

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  10 месяцев назад

      Hi, Thanks for watching. Appreciate your kind comment and just so you are aware trusty kitchen knife is still in action! All the best, TK :).

  • @cheebc-9981
    @cheebc-9981 Год назад

    The largest 2.5 HDD u can get on the market is 2TB, even if u can get a larger capacity, its very expensive, not worth it. And this is how I do, get an 4TB external HDD, tear down get the HDD inside.

  • @mrpicky1868
    @mrpicky1868 2 года назад

    that micro B connector is terrible. TG there are extarnal HDDs with full sized USB one and same HDD inside)

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  2 года назад

      HI, Thanks for watching. Yeah micro B needs to go, everything should just transition to USB C would be a more cable friendly world :).

    • @mrpicky1868
      @mrpicky1868 2 года назад

      @@TKsTechTalk no type c is not much better . most have slack as new

  • @MikeGormez
    @MikeGormez Год назад

    Thanks for the video! And please, for the love of god, use something else than a knife!!

    • @TKsTechTalk
      @TKsTechTalk  Год назад +1

      Hi, Thanks for watching and you are most welcome. Yes I really should have used something better and safer than a knife :), highly recommending using appropriate tools! All the best, TK :).

  • @Lukasyno82
    @Lukasyno82 Год назад

    😁😁😁😆🤣💪👍🤣😁😏