KHCA would later go on to win Fluido Jam, Hip Oppsession, Outbreak... Thesis winning Silverback Open (with Abstrakt judging too)... and to top if off they smoke SKMZ at Outbreak 6 ;) Yea this was a pretty huge rob, but they grew from it.
@@magicfingers6882 lol bro you're late to the drama! Flexum another crazy legs pretty much... all this went down like November cancel culture sucks man
@@Heyitdave I know Legs stories, but never heard about Flexum lol. If you have some information that still remain, you can send to my inbox bro, thanks lol
@@magicfingers6882 you can join some bboy Cypher pages and scroll through and try to find it . But all of it really was on ig and individuals posts that were coming out at the time and I forget the names of the people.
1st song - O Kwawa Se (First Nibble) by Butta 2nd song - ???? 3rd song - Made You Look Instrumental by Nas 4th song - ??? 5th song - Tokyo Saucer by Cookin’ On 3 Burners
Oh man i love so much Flexum, his style & personnality is just so nice, i wish more bboys could have his attitude u know, He can talk shit and all but he got respect for everybody and he has fun like crazy each time he's coming at i'm sure. Big up to both crews, real statement !
LMAO I had to watch this again the ending is to hilarious. KHCA is so pumped raising their hand in the air like they won( I think they easily took it), then the crowds shocked reaction when the winner was announced. Then when you look at SKMZ Luigi and lil D got their heads down in shame, while Flea Rock is celebrating, then Thesis response to the judges. Now that the initial shock of KHCA loosen is gone this becomes rather funny!
Like Teknyc said, "the outcome was determined by the 3 judges, it's not the universal truth". Each judge has his/her OPINION and so does every other spectator. The judges were put in that position to make their choices. If the judges voted the way the crowd/general audience goes, that's be complete BS. They CLEARLY know more than us. Crowds can be just as biased as any judge. Biased or not, it's THEIR perspective of the dance. Who are we to tell them we know more about this art then them?
5:00-5:22...Thesis ripped that beat, especially 5:14-5:15. Dope battle, but like everyone else is concurring: Got to give it up for Knuckleheads Cali, they hella deserved to win that.
@dudepal187 Agreed. I watched this battle again, and tried to look at it from a judging point of view instead of just straight up bias. I think the only one on KHCA who had musicality, flavor, and footwork was Flexum. He's always been able to freestyle and feel the music. SKMZ came hard. I feel bad that they get hated on for this battle.
@EnigmaticElement I love Taisuke, no homo, but i can admit he lost, same with Thesis. I was rooting for him to win, but he just had an off night, happens to the best of all b-boys. LOL what I love is when people say "Stylehead" and "Powerhead". All though I tend to say powerhead without realizing it sometimes. But people are forgetting style is WHAT makes you unique, your character and the way you battle or interpret the music. Not doing footwork and hitting beats LOL!
Lil Jon shouldn't have judged. He used to rep Skill Methodz. If Flexum VOLUNTARILY takes himself off the judge's panel at Bring the Ruckus when KHCA battles, then so should Lil Jon.
Okay, lets look at why the judges may have picked Skill Methodz and lets not assume bias. What did Skill Methodz do better? Musicality, flavor, and footwork if you ask me. Knuckleheads Cali got routines, flow, and execution but they didnt really do anything too different from their planned sets. The point of doing a freestyle in a battle is to be free; to set aside your fears and thoughts and just take action with the music. Some judges will base their decisions solely on how well this is done.
@EnigmaticElement HAHAHAHA. Kmel vs Meegus was too classic though! "Rainbow poof!!! FREEEEEEZE!" Strife tv's interview with SKMZ with Moshen was so inspiring. Moshen definitely was dropping serious knowledge on all b-boys out there.
@teejjesrai Crumbs, Remind, Iron Monkey, Meegus, & Kmel are something you should definitely learn. But, I'm talking about a more chronological order in gaining knowledge about bboys, same thing with crews ,and footage. To be honest, I don't know that much about soul control. I've seen them vs. Spartanic Rockers but, that's about it.
Now I am watching this battle want to comment wtf KHC took it for sure almost every round and I find my comment saying the same 7 years ago... lol must be true then
At :55 Flea says Thesis does Luigi's move. But I can't tell what he's referring to. Anyone? I have seen Luigi do the move that Thesis does at :58 though. Lil John posted on the first video of this battle that Thesis did Steelo and Luigi's moves in this battle and I think his vote was already decided for SKMZ at that point. But in the quarters Lil John voted for Filthy Beast/KHCA over SKMZ (but was out voted by Cros1 and the girl judge) so I think he is a fair judge.
@gamefreak789 Flea is not saying thesis bite him. He is saying Thesis bit Luigi. Just look at Luigi's battle against fresh format, Luigi pretty much created that freeze, then Thesis came and bit it from him. Still ,very good battle. stop QQ lol
I think SKMZ got bonus points from Lil Demon's set on the prelims, and the fact that KHC were celebrating even before the decision probably changed the outcome. Lil John actually voted against SKMZ and for KHZ when they battled in the quarters If I remember correctly so I don't think he's biased.He also explained his decision in a forum and both SKMZ and KHC shared their thoughts as well. In the end, Teknyc summed it up: 3 people's opinions isn't the universal truth.
Dope battle. I don't know how Skill Methodz took this one did KHC repeat some moves throughout all their battles or the judges didn't see all the crashes from skill methodz? Home turf advantage? I'm so lost but awesome battle.
yo i can see why ppl might think KHZ won this, but for me SKMZ def took it - flearock explains why with his comments such as "listen to the beat", "wha...he..just did a.... handstand?" etc.
I know everyone is complaining about this, and I honestly also think they got robbed, but none of us were there, we didn't see what the judges saw... If there were other judges maybe KHCA would took it or maybe not, the fact is SKMZ won, they got the money, noone can say anything about that...
@dr4death LOL how in the world do you know if we were NOT there. I was there at the actual event. On the left side of the camera angle @ 1:11 giving Thesis props. LOL so majority of us who were there saw the battle live and were in the atmosphere when everyone was pissed.
@Sokyujo no doubt, as much as i love SKMZ, this battle definitely deserved to go to KH. Sure they weren't as musical as Flea Rock wanted them to be, but when he asked for it, KH deliverred. Sorry KH, this should've went to you.
@teejjesrai They usually aren't even invited. Like I mean period. Some bgirls could actually do well in some of those competitions. Like Narumi for example. She killed it at dance live tokyo. She took out Nori ( Who is mad dope.) Movie one is also pretty dope. Also, lets forget Asia 1 for a second. Someone else voted with her. You act like her vote was the deciding vote. Like it was all her fault LMAO. If you're gonna cast aspersions, cast them right. They're both in the wrong.
"you going to complain, you shouldn't enter"
I say if you play favorites and rob people, you shouldn't judge
If you don't want to see someone crying about the decision, don't read the comments
KHCA would later go on to win Fluido Jam, Hip Oppsession, Outbreak... Thesis winning Silverback Open (with Abstrakt judging too)... and to top if off they smoke SKMZ at Outbreak 6 ;) Yea this was a pretty huge rob, but they grew from it.
And now khca is one of the most canceled crews from sexual activities/allegations from a couple of they're members.
@@Heyitdave where did you get this information?
@@magicfingers6882 lol bro you're late to the drama! Flexum another crazy legs pretty much... all this went down like November cancel culture sucks man
@@Heyitdave I know Legs stories, but never heard about Flexum lol. If you have some information that still remain, you can send to my inbox bro, thanks lol
@@magicfingers6882 you can join some bboy Cypher pages and scroll through and try to find it . But all of it really was on ig and individuals posts that were coming out at the time and I forget the names of the people.
1st song - O Kwawa Se (First Nibble) by Butta
2nd song - ????
3rd song - Made You Look Instrumental by Nas
4th song - ???
5th song - Tokyo Saucer by Cookin’ On 3 Burners
Oh man i love so much Flexum, his style & personnality is just so nice, i wish more bboys could have his attitude u know,
He can talk shit and all but he got respect for everybody and he has fun like crazy each time he's coming at i'm sure.
Big up to both crews, real statement !
The crowds reaction speaks for everyone
Man, it's a shame that Cloud's too busy directing to battle. It would have been awesome to see him face Thesis.
damn even the crowd was silent in shock when they said skill methodz
LMAO I had to watch this again the ending is to hilarious. KHCA is so pumped raising their hand in the air like they won( I think they easily took it), then the crowds shocked reaction when the winner was announced. Then when you look at SKMZ Luigi and lil D got their heads down in shame, while Flea Rock is celebrating, then Thesis response to the judges. Now that the initial shock of KHCA loosen is gone this becomes rather funny!
Like Teknyc said, "the outcome was determined by the 3 judges, it's not the universal truth". Each judge has his/her OPINION and so does every other spectator. The judges were put in that position to make their choices. If the judges voted the way the crowd/general audience goes, that's be complete BS. They CLEARLY know more than us. Crowds can be just as biased as any judge. Biased or not, it's THEIR perspective of the dance. Who are we to tell them we know more about this art then them?
5:00-5:22...Thesis ripped that beat, especially 5:14-5:15. Dope battle, but like everyone else is concurring: Got to give it up for Knuckleheads Cali, they hella deserved to win that.
and if u didn't notice (no hate on lugi) but he crashed in almost every set
@dudepal187
Agreed. I watched this battle again, and tried to look at it from a judging point of view instead of just straight up bias. I think the only one on KHCA who had musicality, flavor, and footwork was Flexum. He's always been able to freestyle and feel the music. SKMZ came hard. I feel bad that they get hated on for this battle.
you right lluigi didnt crash once.
Second song starting at Flea Rock's 1st round is "Upstairs at Harry's" by The Impellers. Ya'll can thank me later!
Musicality, Attitude vs Skills and Difficulty. Dope battle.
Thesis's first set was all clean!
Still watching from 2020. I still think khca won!
Coming back here in 2023, I was sad to see that RUclips had disabled that camera angle system :/
@EnigmaticElement
I love Taisuke, no homo, but i can admit he lost, same with Thesis. I was rooting for him to win, but he just had an off night, happens to the best of all b-boys. LOL what I love is when people say "Stylehead" and "Powerhead". All though I tend to say powerhead without realizing it sometimes. But people are forgetting style is WHAT makes you unique, your character and the way you battle or interpret the music. Not doing footwork and hitting beats LOL!
i love that it was so silent that all you heard was Flea screaming by himself... 🤣
name first song? please
skill methodz all da way son!
StrifeTV, where is the official coverage of Skill Methodz vs Knuckleheads-Cali TOP 16/PRELIMS??? I've been looking for it all over....
flexum thesis and mn joe all on one team. that's pretty crazy
Dunno flea rock, thesis looked on-beat to me bro
08:48 Thesis session is great ! Kill beat !
@BboyKnuckles i agree with you too but i also respect the judges if they say we won then we won
Lil Jon shouldn't have judged. He used to rep Skill Methodz. If Flexum VOLUNTARILY takes himself off the judge's panel at Bring the Ruckus when KHCA battles, then so should Lil Jon.
wow, tough choice. i honestly thought this should have atleast gone to a tie breaker, but thats just my opinion. great battle, much respect
@Mark198d Flea was referring to the elbow freeze on the floor.
Flea roasting thesis about not being on beat lol dope battle
@MrShawnVue It is because MN joe is from Minnesota.
KHCA all the way in my book
flearock is fucking insane i love that nigga true bboy steez and mentality
Skill methodz is the Daniel Cloud Campos Crew , correct ?
no - skill methodz is skill methodz
that was some bullshit.... skill methodz got smoked.. khc killed them
What are all The song names please ?
Who was the DJ for this battle? The beats were really dope man.
@JDzer0 So should the battle be silent. I guess i missunderstood the battle scene.
wow that was straight up kh wowwww
Okay, lets look at why the judges may have picked Skill Methodz and lets not assume bias. What did Skill Methodz do better? Musicality, flavor, and footwork if you ask me. Knuckleheads Cali got routines, flow, and execution but they didnt really do anything too different from their planned sets. The point of doing a freestyle in a battle is to be free; to set aside your fears and thoughts and just take action with the music. Some judges will base their decisions solely on how well this is done.
...how the hell that happened? I dindnt understand the judges...
@EnigmaticElement
HAHAHAHA. Kmel vs Meegus was too classic though! "Rainbow poof!!! FREEEEEEZE!"
Strife tv's interview with SKMZ with Moshen was so inspiring. Moshen definitely was dropping serious knowledge on all b-boys out there.
ok who said "shouldn't of entered dog, if you wanna complain dont enter" at 11:46
all i can say to that is woooooowwwwwww
SOMEONES NOT GONNA BE JUDGING FOR A LONG TIME
@teejjesrai Crumbs, Remind, Iron Monkey, Meegus, & Kmel are something you should definitely learn. But, I'm talking about a more chronological order in gaining knowledge about bboys, same thing with crews ,and footage. To be honest, I don't know that much about soul control. I've seen them vs. Spartanic
Rockers but, that's about it.
Knuckleheads for me for sure!!!! Skill Methods god robbet almost every round.
Now I am watching this battle want to comment wtf KHC took it for sure almost every round and I find my comment saying the same 7 years ago... lol must be true then
I'm not the only one who finds it a bit funny how the kid is the power head of the group, right?
@Sokyujo
Only one judge voted right. Cros 1 voted for KHCA.
I'm really speechless in this batlle...!
At :55 Flea says Thesis does Luigi's move. But I can't tell what he's referring to. Anyone? I have seen Luigi do the move that Thesis does at :58 though. Lil John posted on the first video of this battle that Thesis did Steelo and Luigi's moves in this battle and I think his vote was already decided for SKMZ at that point. But in the quarters Lil John voted for Filthy Beast/KHCA over SKMZ (but was out voted by Cros1 and the girl judge) so I think he is a fair judge.
Ive seen Flet get really into battles before, but he was just on his period today
Knuckleheads-Cali WIN!
guy in grey with hat on cali is flexum! hes sick
now this is what you call a battle!
As big of a fan as I am of SKMZ this is a BS decision. KHC took it easily.
@gamefreak789
Flea is not saying thesis bite him. He is saying Thesis bit Luigi. Just look at Luigi's battle against fresh format, Luigi pretty much created that freeze, then Thesis came and bit it from him.
Still ,very good battle. stop QQ lol
Yo wtf, KHC took this.. I mean I like both crews but cmon..
11:13 LOL never seen fearock or anybody else react so load and different from the crowd lol
I think SKMZ got bonus points from Lil Demon's set on the prelims, and the fact that KHC were celebrating even before the decision probably changed the outcome. Lil John actually voted against SKMZ and for KHZ when they battled in the quarters If I remember correctly so I don't think he's biased.He also explained his decision in a forum and both SKMZ and KHC shared their thoughts as well. In the end, Teknyc summed it up: 3 people's opinions isn't the universal truth.
Dope battle. I don't know how Skill Methodz took this one did KHC repeat some moves throughout all their battles or the judges didn't see all the crashes from skill methodz? Home turf advantage? I'm so lost but awesome battle.
@xelaod
Should have said don't enter cause I'm whack. Would have been so much more clear.
what a dope ass battle. good shit from both crews.
nah just 1 crew.
was that lil john one of the judges? man i expected more from him that was a wack judge call
dope battle!
Does anyone know the song names?
is that legacy in the corner in yellow?
this is the dopest mc i've heard in a while.who is he?
lol at lil demon's "Go Luigi" @ 5:45 ;D
'we started first every fucking battle'.priceless
2nd song name please! when flearock comes in! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
props to both crew..Knuckleheads way clean..
yo i can see why ppl might think KHZ won this, but for me SKMZ def took it - flearock explains why with his comments such as "listen to the beat", "wha...he..just did a.... handstand?" etc.
3:38 that's insane!
00:59 ..wth thesis do to be considered biting?
@wilsoncardist it`s Nas - Made you look
That "purple Dude" you're referring to is Lil John. Kind of a big name.
Knucklehead won. But i was rootin for Skillz
I know everyone is complaining about this, and I honestly also think they got robbed, but none of us were there, we didn't see what the judges saw... If there were other judges maybe KHCA would took it or maybe not, the fact is SKMZ won, they got the money, noone can say anything about that...
whats the last song that luigi is in?
@Sokyujo you saying skill methodz didnt have musicality, power, footwork, and style? lol
skill methodz ever the best!!!
Fuck no
sick battle
What was that whole dispute at the very end? Thesis looked pissed and I heard a guy say "If you're gonna complain don't enter"
What a great battle!
This thesis was a bad man
Young thesis like mode god
@aetheno That handstand was on beat wasn't it?
wass pretty hot battle
@dr4death
LOL how in the world do you know if we were NOT there. I was there at the actual event. On the left side of the camera angle @ 1:11 giving Thesis props. LOL so majority of us who were there saw the battle live and were in the atmosphere when everyone was pissed.
SO yeah lil john reps with SKill Methodz those who doesn't know. I think it was Uk Bboy Championship 2009. JUST SAYING!!
Song at 2:45 when Flea Comes in I really need it!!!
@Sokyujo no doubt, as much as i love SKMZ, this battle definitely deserved to go to KH. Sure they weren't as musical as Flea Rock wanted them to be, but when he asked for it, KH deliverred. Sorry KH, this should've went to you.
what did flea rock say at 11:14???
this terrible judges must be doing something under the table
Nono Sean agree with u
I love Skill Methodz, mad nasty, but I'm not sure how the judges came to their decision of them winning in this battle.
ROOOOOOBBBBEEED
What Was The Last Song?
Luigi is so dope!!!
@teejjesrai She Judged BC one 04 I believe.
@teejjesrai They usually aren't even invited. Like I mean period. Some bgirls could actually do well in some of those competitions. Like Narumi for example. She killed it at dance live tokyo. She took out Nori ( Who is mad dope.) Movie one is also pretty dope. Also, lets forget Asia 1 for a second. Someone else voted with her. You act like her vote was the deciding vote. Like it was all her fault LMAO. If you're gonna cast aspersions, cast them right. They're both in the wrong.
"We started first every fuckin battle" hahaha
wow,i barely noticed that the guy in the yellow shirt was BBoy Legacy,ha