Love this series man. It saved me so much money. I remember reading all the forums back in 2014 when specing out my simple forged rb26 rebuild and everyone says you need this and the other. I remember thinking it cant be this complicated and expensive and came across some of your early videos to support my thoughts. Just kept it to pistons,rods,head, main rod bolts, metal gaskets and a thorough clean and have been enjoying my power and reliability ever since. :)
This is great, it's amazing with a bit of know how and the right selection of parts that these 30 year old engines are so versatile and able to make some serious power even by today's standards. Goes to prove that a well looked after stock engine should pretty much last forever!
great to find good and valuable RB content..appreciate ! Own an R33 Gtst converting into GTR and getting deep work into RB motors . all your content is super good. every little bit of it. boosted regards to everyone!
When I built my forged turbo Honda engine, I went with Eagle H-beam rods, CP pistons, ARP 2000 rod bolts, ARP main studs, ARP head studs, and ALOT more ARP bolts throughout the engine. It already made 508 whp to the front wheels and isn't even fully tuned.
The engine builder & tuner is probably the most important thing when building an RB. A mate of mine had pretty much the entire nitto catalogue in his rb25 drift car. Nitto rods, pistons, oil pump. I think he spent about 30k on the engine. He had a lot of oil starvation issues, engine builder couldn't fix it. It had custom sump and head drain etc. Ended up killing the engine after 1 season at only 310rwkw.
I have a fairly built rb26/30 nitto rods and pistons ported and polished head full super tech valvetrain in my r33 gtst but going to be running 98 not e85 hoping to make 650-700hp to the wheels with the garret gtw3884 67mm
Another video full of great content. I just wish there was more of anything to do with building an rb26 in the US. Even if you can build one youll have to drive 1000 miles to find a competent tuner for Godzilla where I live
Bloody hell, great pickup! Can't make out where it came from, even at 0.25x speed. Looks like under the roller cover on the left but not sure... Lucky it hit the tyre and bounced off it, not a wheel spoke. At that speed, that bolt would be shot off like a bullet, and a room full of boys... shit ay.
Another killer video as usual! I'm surprised you guys didn't do a rear head drain since its cheap whilst the engines out, what was the reason for not doing it?
The gear box alone is about $15k usd. So figure in another 10-15k on top for the rest of the stuff. Of course all those parts cost them a lot less since they have sponsors and they do most of the work them selves.
Im in U.K and watching what you get out of what little you changed is mind blowing, these fuckers over hear are taking the piss they would want to change so much more at a HUGE cost to customer. Australian's are definitely ahead of U.K with tuning these monsters 👍✌👍✌
@@MotiveVideo im assuming 85 is race fuel ? , im out of tune with performance cars its been a little over 13 years since I had a Skyline and over here there was definitely over kill with tuning. Im watching Australian videos and its mind blowing, even taking into account over a decade of advancement. I seen a interesting comment recently and it said Skyline owners were sending engines over to be tuned in Australia for less than doing it domestically .
And up until now I though Mechanical Stig didn't like Andrew Hawkins (based off Marty's 180sx build)... Glad to see I was wrong enough for them to keep working together ;-)
ugh. This is awkward. Andrew and Benny been good friends since they met via MCM and Benny works at our events with us as our scrutineer and adjudicator and helps work on our cars.
MotiveDVD haha that makes me super happy to hear that. Andrew's old DVDs taught me the foundation of turbocharging an NA car. "Stock standard is poor standard" ;-)
It drove 40m from the top level to the bottom level of the building. Thats plenty! Bedding new rings in is the most important thing and we didnt change pistons and rings, so its bed in already. Bearings are good to go instantly and cams already bed in. Moral of story is, no break in period required. Good engine builders and tuners only bed rings in on dyno then good to go. Break in is old wives tales stuff.
No idea and we prefer not to say as our deals with partners and workshops and the amount of development makes it hard. Our videos enable viewers to skip all the heartache abd build what they want first go. Plus different countries are different prices.
its stock. Lucky dip really. The time and money spent to grout fill or make a brace fit isnt really budget as there is more machine work etc involved. We will do that when we make a "has everything" block
In your early vids on the budget super car was you running e85 all the time? Just trying to get an idea what my r34gtr should make on 2.8 nitto the 3584 turbo on pump. Should be completed in a month
Any US viewer watching one of your videos who is remotely a car person wants to see WHP. that derived/brake horse power shit is unnecessary and arbitrary.
R M if you have to ask you can't afford it. I'm not sure on exact parts used but this would be close Get a stock 32 GTR for mid 30's to 40ish. Just parts alone: Lets see fuel system: 4K Haltech Elite or similar spec ECU R32 GTR PNP 3K + tuning Quaife front LSD 2K PPG or OS Giken sequential dog box 16-20k Twin plate clutch 2.5 Billet steel flywheel 0.5K Intercooler & Piping 1.5K Engine upgrades using stock bottom end : 4-5k Garrett GTW3884 + 6Boost+wastegate+oil&water lines and fittings 5K Exhaust & dump 2.5K Kaaz 2 way rear diff 1.2k Coilovers, upgraded brakes, wheels, tyres at least 15K. Add at least another 15K for labour, plus more for a cage and chute or anything else that I forgot or if anything breaks. This is not a cheap car by most standards. You could easily spend 100K on top of the asking price for a setup like this. It's cheap compared to a Porsche or Ferrari and would eat them in standard form on the straights anyway, probably not around corners. Though just imagine how mad you'd look bagging up all 4's through 2nd leaving Harry's, fuck the house just live in a GTR.
dikfro 5000 rather spend my money on a Supra, was only asking as he mentioned it was going to be a budget build. Regardless of car make I can appreciate the build.
budget build...I just wish I knew what the budget actually was so that I'd know how much it would cost if I ever had the money (or the GTR) to build it like this.
We dont ever try to put a price on it as parts cost different things in different places for different people. We let people work out pricing themselves.
guys can we please talk about what budget is? you guys are unreal at research and development. and you're prob now the best in the world at building rbs but i really thinj you neef to start talking dollars manage peoples expectations
Our strategy is we only change whats need changing and use the most cost effective parts. As power and performance goes up, so does the spend. the point is, you can pick what lever you want and just use the bits required.
So how much is this Budget? I would be happy with 300kw at wheels in my 32. I have maxed the factory set-up at 272kw@wheels. My next step is Garret Dash 5s as I prefer the engine bay to look stock and will stick with low mount. That should see low 300 kW range at wheels I'm told using Link G4 ECU. I know what all this owes me so your build without any Mates Rates thrown in can't be that cheap/budget? Great vids covering this car by the way. Cheers
If you ahve stock engine then go -7s as -5s are laggy and power potential is beyond what stock bottom end can handle. We made 383kW and ran 10.9 on -7s
Damn. Feel bamboozled by the end of the video. 950 engine hp is the same as crank hp right? So it's not 1000hp at the crank or wheels. Plus, in what way is this"budget friendly"? For an avg consumer wouldn't this be over $35k usd, not including cost of the seq gearbox and fuel system?
Dude, Andrew, you should've asked that dude who he was gonna call and then had him do the phone call thing from Crocodile Dundee...lmao Now THAT would've been funny. Not too many of the youngsters would get it, but it would've been funny af to the older crowd.
This engine ended up failing due to the ‘forged’ pistons having a weaker rating than stock, didn’t it? I know you’re unwilling to say who made the pistons but that just reeks of a HKS step 0, 1 or 2 kit lol.
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I could listen to Jim from Nitto all day, such a vast Knowledge on RB engines
Lucky you then: we’re making some tech features right now
Awesome I can’t wait!
This series is fantastic!
BCs300z sure is ahah
What about block bracing to protect it from cracking?
Love this series man. It saved me so much money. I remember reading all the forums back in 2014 when specing out my simple forged rb26 rebuild and everyone says you need this and the other. I remember thinking it cant be this complicated and expensive and came across some of your early videos to support my thoughts. Just kept it to pistons,rods,head, main rod bolts, metal gaskets and a thorough clean and have been enjoying my power and reliability ever since. :)
Mechanical Stig!
Looks like he’s turning into a bush ranger
Its benny mcm..
Where is turbo yoda?
He gets around! :D
Maad
This is great, it's amazing with a bit of know how and the right selection of parts that these 30 year old engines are so versatile and able to make some serious power even by today's standards. Goes to prove that a well looked after stock engine should pretty much last forever!
This video series is going to cost me a lot of money at some point
Severijn van Lambalgen
nailed it.
great to find good and valuable RB content..appreciate ! Own an R33 Gtst converting into GTR and getting deep work into RB motors . all your content is super good. every little bit of it. boosted regards to everyone!
When I built my forged turbo Honda engine, I went with Eagle H-beam rods, CP pistons, ARP 2000 rod bolts, ARP main studs, ARP head studs, and ALOT more ARP bolts throughout the engine. It already made 508 whp to the front wheels and isn't even fully tuned.
Cool story bro
Jam 🤣🤣🤣
"budget, budget, budget" - has a sequential gearbox...
Still way cheaper than any other 9-second supercar on the market and cheaper than most GT-Rs being built.
Lol still a 25+ year old nissan
Supercar bro. Super car
@@James-dx9ho still a dumbass aint you
Great series Andrew & team, keep up the excellent work. looking forward to the next ep
Im making 815rwhp on 25psi on a 2jz. Great video.
This is my favourite series on youtube.
The engine builder & tuner is probably the most important thing when building an RB. A mate of mine had pretty much the entire nitto catalogue in his rb25 drift car. Nitto rods, pistons, oil pump. I think he spent about 30k on the engine. He had a lot of oil starvation issues, engine builder couldn't fix it. It had custom sump and head drain etc. Ended up killing the engine after 1 season at only 310rwkw.
Great series mate, some of the best content you guys have put up so far.
Love your videos guys. You and MCM are the best.
I have a fairly built rb26/30 nitto rods and pistons ported and polished head full super tech valvetrain in my r33 gtst but going to be running 98 not e85 hoping to make 650-700hp to the wheels with the garret gtw3884 67mm
Great viewing guys 👍
10 points for throwing in a Quaife while it was out. bang for buck is right up there.
Alex Burns why not just use a nismo lsd?
ChrisHallett83 nismo = Japan 👌
ChrisHallett83
Try pricing an LSD that has “TRD” written on it. If you can find one.
I love how you gel your hair still
Its not gel. Its "styling mud". Do people not use hair product anymore?
B Davo why no content on ur channel son
@ChrisHallett83 #2 all the way bro
I have top secret R34 2001 v spac 2 & u guys made me go nervous 😟 should I tuned it or keep it stock ???????
Another video full of great content. I just wish there was more of anything to do with building an rb26 in the US. Even if you can build one youll have to drive 1000 miles to find a competent tuner for Godzilla where I live
Wow really wasn't ready for this video its usually months between budget supercar videos. haha made my day
Just that NITTO oil pump goes over my budget xD
where did that bolt come from at 9:51 nearly went under the wheel.
[MG] Liam Tung didnt even notice lol
Bloody hell, great pickup! Can't make out where it came from, even at 0.25x speed. Looks like under the roller cover on the left but not sure... Lucky it hit the tyre and bounced off it, not a wheel spoke. At that speed, that bolt would be shot off like a bullet, and a room full of boys... shit ay.
6 dislikes were from jz skyline swap fans...... what a sick build man!!
Which there were guys in nz that could do this. I'd send them my engine In a heart beat
I like this Nitto guy
Luvin the uploads guys keep up the good work..
Looking to drop one in a Mitsu Starion sitting at my house. I need to research what trans or adapter options I may have
Another killer video as usual! I'm surprised you guys didn't do a rear head drain since its cheap whilst the engines out, what was the reason for not doing it?
my guess is its probably not necessary with reduced oil flow to the head
@ChrisHallett83 Doesn't it make more sense to improve drainage than restrict flow?
@@lutherblissett9070 RB's get more than enough oil to the head when stock. That's why restricting it doesn't hurt.
A fantastic series!
Great series!
yea... they didnt say injectors and timing belt and coil packs.... what kind? and what ecu and final boost
"1000hp" and "budget" don't go together 😂😂😂
compared to what other people spend this is budget for a GT-R
MotiveDVD care to shear how much this budget build costed with everything including to the final tune ?
He didnt say if it was a big or small budget haha
Mitch Conroy learn English
al X teach me master of the keyboard
So how about some prices on this budget built?....
The gear box alone is about $15k usd. So figure in another 10-15k on top for the rest of the stuff. Of course all those parts cost them a lot less since they have sponsors and they do most of the work them selves.
More than you can afford, pal. Ferrari.
the car screems on dyno and is responsive :) good build this will rip :D
should we buy Nitto stuff? any good?
Be good to see a RWD RB street R33 or R34 10 second 'budget' build as there's not really many well sorted RWDs where as there's heaps of quick GTRs
Once our channel is big enough to fund builds we will defintely look at that. At the moment it is still self funded
@@MotiveVideo Sounds good, yeah even budget builds are still far from cheap
Hummm looks like a bolt 🔩 shot out of the dyno roller at 9:56, don't think that's normal
Holy shit, it did! You must have a way better phone than I do. Good eye, too.
How does the factory inlet affect power and airflow at that level?
how much? im in townsville and have an ORIGINAL, 1989-12 series 1 gtr that im getting rebuilt in the next 4 months in sydney.....NEED TO KNOW lol
seriously though, approx how much was this budget build
Crank horsepower don't matter it's how much can you put on the ground that counts.
Im in U.K and watching what you get out of what little you changed is mind blowing, these fuckers over hear are taking the piss they would want to change so much more at a HUGE cost to customer.
Australian's are definitely ahead of U.K with tuning these monsters 👍✌👍✌
potato filming australia is very advanced at GTR tuning and E85 is the main factor behind the power capability to easily
@@MotiveVideo im assuming 85 is race fuel ? , im out of tune with performance cars its been a little over 13 years since I had a Skyline and over here there was definitely over kill with tuning.
Im watching Australian videos and its mind blowing, even taking into account over a decade of advancement.
I seen a interesting comment recently and it said Skyline owners were sending engines over to be tuned in Australia for less than doing it domestically .
Hi guys, what box are you running please.. Also, what gear was the the dyno carried out in please? Thank you.
PPG 6-speed sequential. We dyno it in 5th 1:1
ARP main studs and no line honing the mains? Mine was 0.030mm oval with ARP main studs.
What about intercoolers ?
And up until now I though Mechanical Stig didn't like Andrew Hawkins (based off Marty's 180sx build)... Glad to see I was wrong enough for them to keep working together ;-)
ugh. This is awkward. Andrew and Benny been good friends since they met via MCM and Benny works at our events with us as our scrutineer and adjudicator and helps work on our cars.
MotiveDVD haha that makes me super happy to hear that. Andrew's old DVDs taught me the foundation of turbocharging an NA car. "Stock standard is poor standard" ;-)
What's the compression ratio? And what fuel are you running with?
standard compression and E85
At what horsepower are I beams necessary on an RB 26?
6:50 I know this is a budget build, but you guys are still using the factory ITBs?
Factory ITBS are best unitl over 1000hp
@@MotiveVideo And is there a throttle response advantage compared to a single throttle body?
@@bluesrike Yes, very much so
No break in period on all them new parts
It drove 40m from the top level to the bottom level of the building. Thats plenty! Bedding new rings in is the most important thing and we didnt change pistons and rings, so its bed in already. Bearings are good to go instantly and cams already bed in. Moral of story is, no break in period required. Good engine builders and tuners only bed rings in on dyno then good to go. Break in is old wives tales stuff.
@@MotiveVideo How many ks did the engine last?
can stock buttom end can hold 400kw at wheels ?
So good!
Hey Andrew can you explain what the gauge at 9:30 is measuring? Haven't seen it before
CRD always put a mechanical oil pressure gauge on a newly built engine the first time it goes on dyno to check oil pressure.
60fps camera needed.... add it to the budget.
Are you still using the gtx3582r
Thanks
Olly
NO, we switched to GTW3884 67mm
Awesome, i will buy one of them :P
No mention of piston brand?
@Unicorn GTR not stock, they are forged but they didn't reveal the brand. Don't people watch the videos before commenting..
What if I just want a reliable 500hp street build? What do I need?
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Since the very first video how much money have you guys put into the budget GTR?
No idea and we prefer not to say as our deals with partners and workshops and the amount of development makes it hard. Our videos enable viewers to skip all the heartache abd build what they want first go. Plus different countries are different prices.
What did he say at 9:07?
Great series ;-)
"And then we're going to call 'Pack & Send' and send this f**king thing"
going to watch later when its 1080p
Any issues with the block cracking was a brace installed or any grout used
its stock. Lucky dip really. The time and money spent to grout fill or make a brace fit isnt really budget as there is more machine work etc involved. We will do that when we make a "has everything" block
We have four or five 1000hp s-chassis cars here in South Florida and they all run n1 blocks.
Fact: 750kw= 950hp = 1000 internet horsepower
Surely your tuning bill alone would pay for a hub dyno?
It would if we paid for every single run we did, but we dont. CRD works with us to develop the car as it benefits them and customers too.
What’s ur average mpg with all that hp
Epic power.
OMG Godzilla 🚗💨
Hi guys
Is that on pump fule or e85?
E85 ofcourse.
In your early vids on the budget super car was you running e85 all the time?
Just trying to get an idea what my r34gtr should make on 2.8 nitto the 3584 turbo on pump.
Should be completed in a month
What’s the torque and hp to the wheel
Diante Lowe exactly what the dyno screen shows at the end of the video
Hey Mechanical Stig cameo. Hi Benny
Derived hp= American setting on dyno
Yep :) Exactly why we are using it in the video, but still showing wheel horsepower like real men
It’s really only the manufacturers that show engine hp over here, everyone far prefers numbers at the wheels or quarter mile trap speeds.
Agreed only car commercials here in the US use BHP (derived hp or whatever) literally any built car that actually goes to the dyno we use WHP.
Any US viewer watching one of your videos who is remotely a car person wants to see WHP. that derived/brake horse power shit is unnecessary and arbitrary.
American horses are slightly smaller so you get more ;)
At what pounds of boost did it make the 586kw?
35psi
ill speak for everyone wondering. price tag on the budget build? parts/tuning
So whats the $$ amount at?
R M if you have to ask you can't afford it. I'm not sure on exact parts used but this would be close
Get a stock 32 GTR for mid 30's to 40ish. Just parts alone:
Lets see fuel system: 4K
Haltech Elite or similar spec ECU R32 GTR PNP 3K + tuning
Quaife front LSD 2K
PPG or OS Giken sequential dog box 16-20k
Twin plate clutch 2.5
Billet steel flywheel 0.5K
Intercooler & Piping 1.5K
Engine upgrades using stock bottom end : 4-5k
Garrett GTW3884 + 6Boost+wastegate+oil&water lines and fittings 5K
Exhaust & dump 2.5K
Kaaz 2 way rear diff 1.2k
Coilovers, upgraded brakes, wheels, tyres at least 15K. Add at least another 15K for labour, plus more for a cage and chute or anything else that I forgot or if anything breaks. This is not a cheap car by most standards. You could easily spend 100K on top of the asking price for a setup like this.
It's cheap compared to a Porsche or Ferrari and would eat them in standard form on the straights anyway, probably not around corners. Though just imagine how mad you'd look bagging up all 4's through 2nd leaving Harry's, fuck the house just live in a GTR.
dikfro 5000 rather spend my money on a Supra, was only asking as he mentioned it was going to be a budget build. Regardless of car make I can appreciate the build.
where are the new episodes of motive anything????
budget build...I just wish I knew what the budget actually was so that I'd know how much it would cost if I ever had the money (or the GTR) to build it like this.
About 40k usd if you do the work your self 😂
Ol jimmy wants 700kw gets him 580 enough said haven't changed
Go the GTW 😊
Any update on part 3?
Just released. They blew the motor already.
forged pistons on stock twins? very odd
expected ET and mph?
ill throw a guess of 9.4 @151
We're aiming for 9.3@147-148 on this power
+MotiveDVD awesome cant wait 😁😁
If u get 8.9sec I will be happy
We're aiming for that with a little gas to help us along
+MotiveDVD have you tried any internal ceramic coatings yet? Pistons, valves, ports ect?
@MotiveDVD can we get an update?
Rough estimate in parts alone?
We dont ever try to put a price on it as parts cost different things in different places for different people. We let people work out pricing themselves.
MotiveDVD
Is it still twin plate
Diret CLutch Services twin plate
So how much have you spent ?
guys can we please talk about what budget is? you guys are unreal at research and development. and you're prob now the best in the world at building rbs but i really thinj you neef to start talking dollars manage peoples expectations
Our strategy is we only change whats need changing and use the most cost effective parts. As power and performance goes up, so does the spend. the point is, you can pick what lever you want and just use the bits required.
What’s up there, Grizzly Adams...I mean Benny?
What turbo did you use?
The one we said we used in the outro hosting. same one we did a feature on installing a few episodes a go
MotiveDVD gt35?
They're using a Garrett gtw3884
MotiveDVD what rpm does it hit full boost?
Does anyone know what boost level there making
35psi and drops back slightly to 34 up top
MotiveDVD that's awesome power for a budget build
This car is fukin mint
So how much is this Budget? I would be happy with 300kw at wheels in my 32. I have maxed the factory set-up at 272kw@wheels. My next step is Garret Dash 5s as I prefer the engine bay to look stock and will stick with low mount. That should see low 300 kW range at wheels I'm told using Link G4 ECU. I know what all this owes me so your build without any Mates Rates thrown in can't be that cheap/budget? Great vids covering this car by the way. Cheers
If you ahve stock engine then go -7s as -5s are laggy and power potential is beyond what stock bottom end can handle. We made 383kW and ran 10.9 on -7s
ok, if this is a budget build, can we get a breakdown of how much the engine cost 2nd hand, and the re-build cost ? really liking this series :)
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Damn. Feel bamboozled by the end of the video. 950 engine hp is the same as crank hp right? So it's not 1000hp at the crank or wheels. Plus, in what way is this"budget friendly"?
For an avg consumer wouldn't this be over $35k usd, not including cost of the seq gearbox and fuel system?
1000hp | Budget > choose one
Dude, Andrew, you should've asked that dude who he was gonna call and then had him do the phone call thing from Crocodile Dundee...lmao Now THAT would've been funny. Not too many of the youngsters would get it, but it would've been funny af to the older crowd.
you going to roll racing anytime soon :) wouldnt mind blowing up my gearbox again against ya :P
Was going to go this week but we have to drive to Wakefield Friday night to work at Aus Time Attack next day :(
This engine ended up failing due to the ‘forged’ pistons having a weaker rating than stock, didn’t it? I know you’re unwilling to say who made the pistons but that just reeks of a HKS step 0, 1 or 2 kit lol.
50k budget build right