Electric Concrete Demo Saw any good?
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Testing out an electric powered Evolution Concrete Demolition Saw.
Saws shown in the video:
Evolution Electric Saws:
R300DCT+ water dust control: amzn.to/3Y7CLWt
R300DCT w/12" blade: amzn.to/3SerboM
R255DCT w/10" blade: amzn.to/3s9WCX0
R230DCT w/9" blade: amzn.to/3ggjiC6
Hilti Gas dsh700 Saw: amzn.to/3IbVjjb
Husqvarna Gas Saw: amzn.to/3YapGM6
MY THOUGHTS of the Evolution Concrete Saw DISCCUT1
It's impressive and keeps up with my gas saws. It comes with a blade and new blades are pretty cheap( amzn.to/2CM8i99 ) compared to my 14"ones on the gas saw. The clutch starts to slip on the gas saws on heavy cutting pressure unlike the electric unit which never slips. It is a must to run this with a good 12awg extension cord(50ft or less) and 20amp breaker outlet. Time will tell which one becomes my favorite. I have since upgraded to the R300DCT+ because it has water and keeps the dust to zero.
PROs:
-Lighter than Gas
-No Gas Fumes
-No Maintenance
-Vacuum Dust Extraction
-Includes Blade
-Smaller for better maneuverability
-Direct Gear/shaft drive so no slipping belts/clutch
-HIGH torque
-Cheap
CONs:
-No water hookup
-Smaller blade 12"(305mm) which offers 1/2"(13mm) less cutting depth vs 14"(355mm)blade
-Needs Power(grid power or generator)
-No roller wheels
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I use one on a daily basis, had it for 2 years now with no issues, the rubber grip is wearing off the handle but thats to be expected. It does not blow breakers, quite the opposite its one of the few tools i have with soft start. I wouldn't go back to a petrol saw ever again, even if I have no power I keep a generator in the truck anyway. The only bad thing I could possibly say about it is the large handle makes it difficult to cut up against a wall as you mentioned.
Thanks for your long term use feedback. I was contemplating cutting/welding the handle to make it narrow.
Do u use it wet or dry?
@@alexstoles1339 dry mostly, if i have easy access to water dribbling a little on the cut certainly doesn't hurt
Im getting one lol im a stone mason this will be perfect and the fact i can hook a shop vac up will help with silica
Do you ever hook up to a 15am circuit and does it give you issues?
I have had one for about two years and have really liked it. I don’t use it everyday but I have not had a problem with it. I use 10guage extension cords and a generator and have never tripped a breaker
That's awesome. It feels like a nice solid tool. Thanks for your real world insight.
What generator do you recommend?
Evolution has amazing products. And for only 20% of the cost of gas....Great video
I was impressed by it, the cost is another bonus.
Cal me strange, but I could watch tool videos all day long!
Strange.
sixtyfiveford 😂😂😂
He couldn't be happier, just ask his dog
I have seen guys using these on street construction jobs and none of them ever used a vacuum and I don't even think they used a mask. I always felt sorry for them. A long time ago I read a story about a bank that was robbed by guys who tunneled under the bank and broke through the floor of the vault on a Sunday. I bet they used one of these for the floor. The funny part about the robbery was vibrations tripped an alarm and police came and the robbers got scared and left but they did not know there was no way to open the vault until Monday and no one knew there was a tunnel.
Now all I can think about is robbing banks.
That was a good demonstration of why one needs a water hook up.
We had an evolution electric wet saw and it would constantly trip out and need to be reset because water would get behind the plastic cover . Other than that it worked pretty good. Needless to say we used it a couple times and now it just sits collecting dust
Cutting concrete is a messy job, with water or without.
If you are tripping, run it on a 20 A circuit.
Just found these on clearance at Menards. I’ll be buying on in the morning!
Thanks, this is a really helpful video. I'm looking for something for occasional use whilst renovating my house, cutting through brick and blockwork, mostly, but also the odd bit of concrete, and trimming of steel lintels to length. I think this will probably fit the bill, and I'll certainly be happier using something that doesn't emit fumes indoors. Thanks again!
I'm impressed with it.
@@sixtyfiveford how does it work on metal?
My local Canadian tire has this saw on clearance for $174 thought I’d come here first and see if it’s worth it….I’m buying it now! Haha
Update:
Bought the saw $197 taxes in.
Got it home started cutting up my concrete side walk and concrete curb. No issues so far, I’ve done about 25 cuts. I’m about 3/8ths finished this thing cuts concrete and reinforced concrete. Very minimal vibration, simple to use not overly dusty (I was expecting more) perhaps the blade it’s using is not as dusty? Idk I’m impressed.
The quote to have my side walk cut out was $2800
I believe I will have to buy at least 1 more blade maybe 2 but they are like $70 a pop $45 for the cheapies. I recommend this saw.
I have work to do in my basement. Don't need the exhaust fumes. The evolution will work great for me. SOLD!!
I'm impressed with it.
Good point about the handle sticking out so far. It seems to be just fine for a DIY guy.
Look at you doing metric ! Cool ! Thumbs up !
@ 3:15 is it my tired eyes or is the blade on the electric canted out of vertical ? Or is it just not sitting level on the bench ? Can't see any but does the electric have rollers ? As an option maybe ?
Skinny up the handle ? Sounds like a future RUclips improvement project :-)
Great vid, I was super skeptical at the start, comparing apple to oranges, but like you surprised and impressed. Thanks for the great review !
I went and look at it. The blade appears to be straight and must have just been sitting off level. I thought I would be able to stall it out. It impressed me.
Great saw, looks like! Thank you for the review. I won't ever use one, but this was a great review for someone who might.
Thanks for watching.
Great rig. I never seen one electric , didn't know they were made.👍
It's an impressive little tool. Dewalt even makes cordless a one.
Thank you.
Nice to know !
Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍
Thanks for watching.
Great video , nice shirt
Thank you ,
You answered my question about an electric demo saw
i bought one of these saws with a water line. Returned it after a month of use. It kept shutting off because of the special plug they put on it. (I forgot what they're called...) It couldn't cut through rebar either, it would overload it and shut off.
Just FYI the Hilti gas saw blade can be moved to the other side. It takes a few minutes to set up and gets about an inch away from the wall.
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I got one that’s 15amp. Hope to use it soon to break up a slab. Will be curious to see if it does nearly as well. Good vid.
Well done, thanks for that!
Hey, Thanks for watching.
The tesla of saws!
I don't think I've ever seen a electric saw like that before. I use to work on the gas ones many years ago,
I didn't know they had electric ones either until a few months back.
Great review convinced me to buy.
thanks for the review i will buy one now instead of renting Thanks
Hey Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
We cut our shop floor to add a bathroom hardest concrete I’ve ever cut the saw good through it but we earned it
As a weekender it would be fine for me.
Great little saw, used if for a few door ways indoor where i don't want fumes, but yes the handle could have been designed better to get closer to walls
I'm impressed with it.
Evolution stuff is really not bad, love my chop saw.
I like the money savings that I can put towards other tools.
Great for indoor use, no CO! Hey Moe did you hack that handle off and weld something more low profile yet, or do I even need to ask? Hahaha
I was/am super temped but then realize I couldn't remember the last time I needed to be that close to a wall. The day that I do need it to be that close is the day it gets cut.
Do u think it would cut through 3 inch layer of asphalt black top? I need to cut out square holes to auger up fence post holes and cut a channel out of the same asphalt/black top to dig and Barry a power line to a sub panel going to a detached garage?
It would but... Not have a water cooled blade it could heat up and gum up the tar in the asphalt (if it's pretty new asphalt).
Another good video Moe!
Thanks David, it'll be a fun tool.
Thank you so much very helpful
Glad it helped
Good information , thanks for sharing 👍
Hey Thanks.
I have to cut asphalt driveway along the edge. Will this saw be okay for asphalt?
Well that's a handy tool. Didn't know you did construction stuff.
It should come in handy.
Great review.
Thanks, it'll be a fun tool.
Really well done video! 👍
Good idea to use hoover attached. Question : can I use normal hoover or if has to be something industrial vaccum? Henry brand do good hoovers in UK and should do the job. Any comments anyone?
the amount of dust a concrete saw puts out will clog a filter quickly. You'd want a vacuum with a large removable and washable filter, or just remove the filter and vent the exhaust somewhere downwind.
У нас в России популярна электрическая husquarna k-3000 и к-4000, бензо stihl-800
they do another saw with water attachment onto a pump setup
Yep, just got it a few months ago. Absolutely amazing!
Thanks Moe.
Hey, thanks man.
I’m cutting into a concrete slab in my basement for plumbing, would you recommend the 10” model or the 12” model? Might use it for cutting my sidewalks after too. Let me know, thanks!
The 12" model will go 4.5" deep which should cut all the way through. The 10" may or may not. I just upgraded to the r300dct+ last month to get the water dust control and it's even better than the one in this video. Just an FYI Evolution set up a discount code for my viewers years ago that saves them 5% off their website. It's "SIXTYFIVEFORD"
@@sixtyfiveford You the man! Just ordered one, thanks again!
Any recommendations on a good jobsite generator? I will use this saw to cut pavers mostly.
If you can find yourself a cheap second hand Honda or Yamaha you won't be disappointed.
great review im really torn if i should invest in the evolution tools or just jump straight to the pro grade stuff i got the 10" miter saw that cuts steel and wood i feel like i should of gotten a milwuakee 14" instead as i do a decent amount of heavy steel,
im sure you could whip up a handle out of some steel piping right quick with a factory look, maybe some plasti-dip or rubberized truck bed spray to give it a nicer grip! wonder how a 2500watt genset feels about running it, probably some voltage/power loss there but will get the job done
Nothing beats a Milwaukee, Dewalt, Makita tool. But that stuff is meant to be used everyday on the job and last 5-10 years. It will last a weekend warrior 30years but by that time what new stuff has come along and how outdated is that 30yr old tool? The orange Evolution tools are way better than any Harbor freight stuff but not as refined as the top brands(70-80% as good). The blue Evolution tools are their top of the line and I would say 90% as good as top brands.
The orange 10" sliding miter saw from Evolution I would say it meant more to do wood. There's quit a bit of trade off with a dual purpose tool and I have cut a fair amount of metal on it but feel like I'm pushing it. There's a lot of bang for your buck in that tool. My choice for metal projects is the Evolution Evosaw380($380w/blade) or the 14" RAGE2($200w/blade). Both cut about the same, the blue Evosaw380 is just a little more well built and come with a nicer blade. Both cut 3-4x better than the Evolution 10" miter saw.
@@sixtyfiveford for sure im heavy into milwuakees 18v line, tend to buy higher priced tools as theyre a joy to use even if i dont get the full life out of them
the orange 10" saw works pretty good but spins a bit fast for steel, for 200$ CAD on sale id recommend it as a secondary saw tho as it can do compound cuts and slides to like a 14" cut width which you dont get on any other saw
I love quality tools but I'm sick of the cordless racket. I've bought top of the line cordless stuff several times since the late 90's only to have it be completely worthless a few years later. I'm glad I didn't jump on the last run a few years back with the Dewalts or Milwaukee because now I only want brushless. I'm in the need of an cordless upgrade, but I'm holding up for another year for the next big bang. Laser powered???
@@sixtyfiveford yeah milwaukees moving to the 21700 lithiums but its all the same juice inside, i have a mix of brushed and brushless m18, i wanna buy all the newest gear but im gonna have to burn up and get my use out of the ole stuff first dunno whatll be next battery wise, still plenty of tools they can release tho holding my breath for the framing nailer
This is exactly what I came to see.
The only limitations are, indeed, tripping the breakers if you draw too many amps, the unwieldy power cord and underpowered electric motor. If it does what you want it to do, it is worth it. Don`t know about water, unless the motor is double insulated and totally sealed so the water can`t short out. With 2- stroke oil and gas prices being what they are, non- pros who don`t get reimbursed for the fuel are ahead, cost- wise.
non pros wont really use enough fuel for it to be a factor cost wise, you can run a couple hours of heavy cutting on a few liters of fuel, with occasional use the 4x initial cost will never be over taken by fuel costs, and blades arent cheap especially if youre cutting random stuff here and there with god knows what in it the way a home gamer would
seems like a sweet deal to me much prefer electric to gas when available with adequate power could pickup a generator or an inverter for the truck and still be under the cost of a gas job saw
It was a completely different beast to run. I can stall out(make clutch/belts slip) on the Hilti 700x and the Husqvarna; not so on the electric it just kept digging. I'm sure it was pulling a lot of amps(had it on a 20amp breaker+25ft 12awg cord) and it didn't blow a breaker. I would say it's easily 2-3x more powerful than the gas unit at bog down rpm. However if you have 30feet straight line to cut the 10000rpms of the Gas Saw blade is going to do more work faster. Cutting some bricks, doing a bunch of different angles, etc where you would set down the saw and not shut it off are great for the electric as it shuts off every time you release the trigger.
How does it do on metal?
i wonder how sealed the motor is, dust will be the end of it
There are a few people that commented they have used this saw in excess of a year without any issues. The concrete dust is nasty stuff and the killer of gas versions so it will likely eventually have it's toll on this electric version.
Can you this saw to cut wood too? with a 12 inch blade for wood?
In theory it would but it would be pretty dangerous.
I want this saw
It works very well.
How many watts and amps is it and does it work good on a generator
It will run off a 15amp breaker but would more than likely trip it under heavy load. A 20amp is idea, so 2400watts.
I'm concerned about that 25a draw. I've never been to a customers house that has a 30a 110v outlet.
You mean 15 amps.
@@sixtyfiveford show me how 3200w at 115v is 15a.
@@lowbudgetangler253 Which model are you looking at?
@@lowbudgetangler253 I found it by googling. That's a typo. It's 15 amps.
I think you lose more than half an inch. Measure down from the shaft housing on the electric, the same as you did on the gas saw. And I believe that "masonry" blade that was on there probably would have cut that pipe.
The shaft area is a lot smaller on the electric. It gives you a true 4 inches of cut depth with the 12" blade where both the Hilti and Husqvarna give 4-1/2" on their 14" blade.
For that cut the same amount of dust would’ve came out without that little vac
What will be the price whre can I get it.
There are links in the video description.
certainly has the advantage that it comes up to speed faster than the gas.
no sound in the cutting sequences...
These things are deafening. I muted it out in all but one sequence.
jizzless christ man! that Hilti saw must be like 5000$ at least?
you're a concrete guy?
This is one of the few cheaper Hilti Products at only $1000ish bucks. I think a simple cordless tool kit is over $1500 so this saw is a great deal.
hello, I heard no cutting.
Cutting sounds were muted.
Ah, electric concrete saws, the most frequent breaker tripper tool!
Great way to test it out. I had no issues with a proper 20amp 120v breaker but I definitely see it tripping a 15amp 120v breaker.
@@sixtyfiveford picked up a 9" dewalt grinder for a great price a couple years back, dont use it as much as i thought i would was hoping itd hold off the need for a plasma and cut straight lines in plate steel cleanly but blades are a pain to find locally need to order a box of 50 from welding supply and thats pricey for a home gamer.. my point anyway is that the 9" grinder with 25' 12awg cord trips the 20amp breaker with any amount of weight applied when using a cutting wheel
I have a 9" angle grinder and I have to use 7" discs on it as that's all I can find as well. That's why I like the demolition saws as the 14" cut off discs are readily available. My Dewalt 14" metal chopsaw would trip the 20 amp breaker anytime I laid into it hard. Maybe Dewalt is just too powerful. Got to the point I sold the saw and got the Evolution Dry Cut Chop saw and I couldn't be happier.
@@sixtyfiveford I'm getting to hear a lot of good yarns about the evolution concret/Metal cut off saw from other sources. Is this saw an industrial/commercial type and if so how long is the length of guarantee , and could you give us a price tag on it, thanks bro
had no issues with mine tripping breakers so far
I just put a diamond blade on an old circular saw.
Hey whatever works. I've done it with angle grinders; the only drawback is the lack of depth of cut.
You're destroying the blade with the back cuts. Why didn't you let us s
Hear how loud it is? You re not that great.