Safe Chainsaw Use -- Kickback (Preview)
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
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A severe kickback is the most dangerous hazard of all for a chainsaw operator. The incident occurs in a fraction of a second and can cause injuries ranging from cuts and scrapes to amputations and death. This compelling 13-minute video opens with a re-creation of a fatal kickback incident. It then reviews important information every chainsaw operator needs to know about kickback, including how and why it happens and how to prevent it.
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This is one of the best explained, to the point, and straight up helpful presentations i think i've ever seen. Pity about the intro bit though.
That is how effective workplace training videos work - they effectively scare you into the reality of how much the actual danger is here. Think this is bad then watch forklift workplace training videos! It works though, Ontario has one of the best safety records in the world in no small part due to the mandated safety training and equipment required on the job.
Chainsaw Man Opening Kickback
I've had this happen to me once, but not exactly due to kickback. This is another warning to all other chainsaw users. I had just fell a fairly small tree, and my chain was dull thus taking a lot of pushing and turning to make the cut. After it finally fell, I was potentially exausted for i stood there for a good 10 minutes trying to make the cut. Yes, I know I should have sharpened my chain, but I didn't. Anyway, after taking a step back from the fallen tree and I thought my saw had calmed down to a low idle, but it didn't. I let the saw rest against my body whilst unknowingly letting it cut a little ways into my knee. It wasn't serious, but if the saw wasn't a very small one and I was still throttling it, I'd have no left leg today. Be warned saw users, if u feel at all fatigued or tired to a big extent, shut your saw off immediately, drink lots of water, and rest until you are sure you're ready to begin cutting again... PEACE OFF PPL, XD
Danny Hensley I did the same exact thing... Nipped me a little but not serious thank God
Should of been wearing chainsaw protective pants/ suitable type chaps
Danny Hensley yes....I hate chainsaws
My Mom got her finger cut off
And a friend decapitated himself. He actually looked at his wife & said " Julia! What have I done!!?"
Horrifying
Star Anna holy fuck thanks for scaring the hell out of me before I start my cleaning lol
@@StarAnnasDream was he able to speak after he was decapitated?
One of the best explanations of Kickback. Wish more youtubes were this clear.
So you cut the video IMMEDIATELY at the most crucial moment???
That answers is gonna cost you $9.95 and hopefully you don’t hack a limb off in the mean time.
@@stankrod8012 😂 Exactly that. They rather have their bank filled than us keeping our limbs.
This is one of the clearest educational videos I have seen on YT, why on Earth the 100 or so downvotes here?
Skip to 1:35. Upvote for others, and you're welcome.
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Stupid goddamn intro took an eternity
Not much new here, but it was presented in such a way that I got a lot out of it. Great job.
Absolute masterpiece of an intro. Filmmaking at it’s finest.
Just kickback and relax
Forever
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I have learned quite a bit about the issue of kickback through the years and that is one thing I worry about when working with my saws.
Newbie chainsaw master here. So far, no problem with cutting trees - I've cut two 8" just today alone! I'm using one of the DeWalt 12" battery-operated and the closest I've come to getting injured is cutting thin branches off with the tree or branch on the ground. Placing my foot on the tree/branch to steady it and while trying to cut a very thin branch, the branch starts to vibrate, the cutting stops, then it kickbacks toward my foot. After about the fourth time, I let those little branches be.
Thanks for not telling the world "what to do" about kickback.
:)) Yeah
I see I’m about 3 years late on this, but I was about to comment the same damn thing.
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As the man said: "Kickback Happens" I'm sold!
I experienced that problem with about a 2 to 3 inch branch just today. It was on a cedar I had just felled. I was cutting down on the horizontal branch, and the small end was on the ground. As I cut, the weakened branch pinched my saw as I was cutting downward. The pressure of the tree was pushing down on the branch I was cutting from the top side.The branch pinched the saw, and stopped the saw as I tried to pull out. I got it out okay, but that could have caused a kickback. Now I am a little more careful about being aware of a "pinch". Thanks
Otherwise, the other videos show that most kickback occurs when cutting with the TIP of the bar. I am very careful about cutting with the TIP. The safer cut it seems, is done with the longer length of the bar and using the middle. Got to watch for those "pinching" factors. Everyone be careful out there, and stay safe.
This old guy has a brilliant style of presentation.
Is the " How to avoid it" sequel on You Tube?
I'm in the UK it seems to be only available on DVD in Canada.
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Excellent video. Cutting is fun and liberating, but i don't think there is enough videos on safety. From clearing up after an ice storm or the pro making a living felling, staying alive and keeping the same amount of limbs you came with is the goal. Hats off to all of you that keep us in lumber.
This was a very informative video and well done too.
the video is very informational.thank you.im always aware of what can happen when im cutting.
This is a great informational video.
I had to learn again this day........, I was lucky..., hit my knee..., Damage not to bad seen what force hit it..., hopefully the wound will not get infected..., People!!!!! I have all certificate's...., lot of experience... And It happened in a split second! Keep focus on this! Trust me!
This is a good video, how he speaks is amazing.
thank you for the information
Thanks for the vital information mate ,I’ll remember this
My dad almost got his head split open from a chainsaw kickback (up and back, into his face) when I was about 9, and I witnessed the entire thing up close, spurting blood and all. There was so much blood I thought he’d killed himself. Luckily he was wearing thick rimmed glasses that caused the saw to rebound off his face, thus saving his life. The lasting scar on his forehead was pretty deep.
this man is well spoken and makes me want to listen. i want to hire him!
The David Attenborough of chainsaw safety. Intro reminiscent of the Evil Dead lol
It is not hard to build a anti-kickback mechanism. All you need is a 3-d accelerometer. The moment chainsaw/circular saw starts moving rapidly in wrong direction cutoff power and apply brakes. How much that should cost? No I don't need patents for this!
That's great except when that happens in a fraction of a second. The best that you would be able to do it slow the kick back down
The chain brakes I use do that nicely, for rotational kickbacks, stopping the chain in milliseconds. The difficult one is the straightback kick. What you want to do there is to be clear of the rear of the saw. DAMHIKT Even a 60 cc saw can kick you like a mule- not hitting you with the chain, but with the rear handle of the saw..
then all you need to do is replace the chain nowa days as that damages it
i think its safer to fell with a 50cc or higher saw and then cut up the felled tree with a smaller saw. i use my husky 142 and my emergency, tiny mccullac 16" saw for branches. sure theyve kicked back but a lot less than a bigger saw. My only thing on this vid was, he never gets into "what to do about it" just what it is... first thing is to stand to the side of the saw, not over it.
They should make a chainsaw that would automatically shuts off when the chain sees an abrupt change in speed. The saw will still kickback, but at least, the chain has stopped.
This was very helpful. Me and my sister We're going to cut up a stump of an oleander and watched this video and decided we are not going to do this great explanation of kickback
What a cliffhanger.
this deffintly happens alot but its much more dangerus with a large 100cc saw rather then like a 30cc
i experienced smoething like this at 6:19 but from above and down. and then the chainsaw flipped so that the chainsaw almost got to my toes. that was scary.
I cut a lot of fire wood and tree(all with safety gear Chaps helmet gloves logging boots) my buddy takes all the log stacks them all up in a large pile and cut them then pushes them off to the side, i refuse to do that iv never had a saw kick back as much as it did when cutting that way
Very Useful info on Safety.
Those old 272s had awsome breaks
Thank you well made informative video.
I would also like to see what to do to avoid kickback, such as cut one side than the other etc.
But its nice to see quality videos on youtube.
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thank you.. good info
I cringe when I see people cutting into multiple logs on the ground. Separate them out at least and cut off the ground if possible with a saw horse.
6:48 and 6:52 why would you even cut bottom up instead of top down in these situations? Would it not be safer to cut top to bottom?
It's done on purpose just to show how the physics of pinching works. A tree can be under tension in either direction. If the log is supported on both ends and you start to cut from the top, then the blade will be pinched. If the log is supported from one end and in the middle and you start cutting from the buttom of the free-hanging side, the blade will be pinched. So it's not always just "cut from the top", it differs per situation.
thank you for the usefull information
Regards fron Mexico
Thanks for information...😍😍😍
When bar becomes stuck ,kill the engine. Use second saw to relieve with a new cut, it releases the pressure on. First saw. Always use two chainsaws when cutting logs.
So the most important thing is, what do we do about it?....the end.
great knowledge.
excelent explain, I lern a good class in this video
Thanks for Video.
Can you not put your body on the side of the chain saw when you cut? I know that's is a little Harder to do but that's what I do. Keep you're self out of line if that chain if you can. Also a good sharp chain helps to
Hey this reminds me of high school driving movies what about chainsawing and drinking.
Newbie chainsaw user here but i get the jist of the video. Avoid cutting with the tip and close to other logs or limbs, try to cut downward whenever possible, cut with the spikes close to the log.
The cutting direction depends on how the wood is under tension. Sometimes the top is under tension, sometimes the bottom. You have to determine that before cutting. If the bottom is under tension and the top under pressure, and the wood is liftable, i think it's best to put something underneath it so the bit you're cutting off becomes free hanging. Then cut from the top so the saw pulls away from you. If you cut from the bottom then the saw will tend to push towards you so it's better to avoid that.
Saw arrived yesterday ruclips.net/user/postUgkxfQm1wmg0ItKDLavxj1nXtQY9HP7EF504 and today I cut about 3/4 cord of wood with it. Make sure you get an extension chord that is at least 12 gauge wire, minimum. This is my first electric in about 10 years, and things sure have improved. The self-sharpener works great, and it just kept cutting through some pretty decent logs. Wear your eye protection, and ear protection. Excellent saw.
WHOLE VIDEO HERE: ruclips.net/video/HBEUYs6I6vU/видео.html
Not sure why there is a "preview" video (that is half the actual video??!!) but the actual video is a great video, watch the whole thing at this link.
For those saying that they have an issue with the intro, that is how effective workplace training videos work - they effectively scare you into the reality of how much the actual danger is here. Think this is bad then watch forklift workplace training videos! It works though, Ontario has one of the best safety records in the world in no small part due to the mandated safety training and equipment required on the job.
Make the chain a little wider at the top of the teech
i had a saw kick at me once luckly i was limbing and had my hand on the wrap of the handle its hurt my wrist something bad the whole rest of the day i had my eye on that nose
it is on another video..this is a shorter version for some reason
"What can we do about it?" Was this ever answered??
Good vid, thanks!
Never had kickback happen ever. It’s quite hard to encounter unless you absolutely have no idea how to use a chainsaw
Is it because they force it too much or something?
@@claytonbigsby9673 only way you’d have kickback with a chainsaw is by cutting downward into something that is springy meaning something that will fling upwards once it’s cut apart which would bring the saw back into your face but that’s why you observe your surroundings first before cutting
I like this guy!
Well Done video!
great vid
So if the chain stops during the kickback how do they manage to get hurt?
Because there is still power going to the chain. The chain is stopped and the saw it self starts to get moving. Once the chain gets free again the engine starts to spin the chain again while the saw is still under motion towards your head.
Best part of this video - 7:04
oh my are you ok sir
Know your cut. Like with a gun, know your target. If you are cutting into a
how did i get here.... i started with crash comps...
Ouch, scary, I might just skip the chainsaw idea
Wish this showed the part about how to avoid it.
I used to want a chainsaw, but not now.
That was a good one!
EQUAL FORCE MOMENTUM
@weedsa1 if a major kickback happens it just will hit u back- good luck all you forresters out there, take care of you! greez a forrester in switzerland
that's not for sure.. I've had hundreds of kicks in my career and none have activated the brake.. if you lock your wrist and your elbow it's very rare the saw will rotate far enough for your hand to knock the lever... I fell timber years before chain brakes came out and for years after.. chain brakes are a "feel good" accessory designed to please lawyers..not a safety accessory..
MrMeanderthal, shortly after I began running a saw I had the inertia brake kick in once. Once out of 7 years. I was bucking firewood out of a pile of logs and the top quadrant hit another log. It threw the saw up and back. I know it was the inertia brake because the brake handle had broken off long before I ever had the saw in my hands. Had just enough of a nub left to release the brake. Not sure that it would have gone bad had the brake not activated but I was glad to know it worked. I then took time after that experience to better educate myself about safety when running these machines, and keeping them properly maintained (ie, a new brake handle). It only happened once but it was enough to scare some respect into me. Stay safe!
I have actually stuck my chainsaw into a log to show a fellow worker about kicbacks, he thought I was crazy, told him, I know what I am doing, I am a log home builder, do a lot of plunging into logs
How do you avoid kickback when plunge cutting with the tip of the saw? Do you use low Revs to reduce the force?
@@JS-jh4cy Usually when we plunge cut we are running mostly wide open throttle and start at a angle with the kick back zone on the tip facing outward, than go square to the log and push through
Hmmm, maybe the issue is not trying to cut something in one big swoop? If a tree limb is that big, why not put a V cut in there, so that as the tree caves into itself, isn't set so tight? Doing this in two various cut from opposite ends may prove to be a little more time consuming...but perhaps a bit safer? Yeah, this video scared me a bit more to attempt cutting my own tree limbs...but it's good to know how this happens before hand. And to bad this was only a preview...does this mean we now have to pay for the rest? I think every chainsaw purchase could come with a Safety DVD anyway, it's not that costly when you are selling thousands. Thanks for the info...now I'll go out and cut me some limbs....hopefully not my own!
One thing we learn the hard way is to use (plastic) wedges to keep kerf from closing. Mainly in situations where the top of the log is in compression. You cut partway from above, set a wedge or two in the kerf, then complete the cut from below. Can't have too many wedges. Don't have to hammer them in, "palming" them will often do nicely, and save lots of headaches or "mule kicks". DAMHIKT Then keep your body parts out of the plane of the chain.
I write it because I can. :') Pretty standard acronym (DAGS [do a google search] that) meaning "Don't Ask Me How I Know That". It's all about brevity. Of course you could DAGS "DAMHIKT" and be done with it. Acronym often used where it might be embarrassing/incriminating to explain how you knew that. Next!
I didn't know what it meant either... not everyone is up to date on 'slang' - it's a generational acronym, fairly new way of communicating. Though I would have to say this style is right up there with a person's habit of constant profanity. You may be in a rush to get your point across, but it would be worth while to use this platform to show some intelligence in 'writing and word usage'. If you are going to go so far as to explain - then finish explaining instead of using the Acronym - I'm sure your English teacher would be proud. I'm going to take a while guess that you are also under the age of 30. LOL (laughing out loud)
What's a "while" guess? Your guess is waaaaay off, by more than a factor of two. You could work on some brevity too. :') As mentioned, a simple DAGS will suffice. IOW, KISS. OTOH, "WTF" is another story. TTFN.
Where the hell did you get that from? I've never heard it in my life either
😂 why would you stop the vid there
I'm going to kick back my saw straight back to the store that recommended it to me and stay safe.
Put a tip gaurd on the tip of the Saw
Or wedge it
i gotta use one tomorrow ,now im scared
Don't be scared, be safe.
suckmyazzz
The john Wayne of chainsaws
1:20 guy is laughing
forget using one shoot
Kick back a chill out
This video explains the whole deal, this is just a preview - ruclips.net/video/HBEUYs6I6vU/видео.html
I thought this was spam, but no it's a genuine comment and the link leads to exactly what you were taling about. Thanks!! :o
RUclips has a massive problem...
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chainsaw man reference
Sounds like this guy is speaking against better knowledge.
Chain&sword jams = the saw comes to a full stop, no biggie.
Chain pinched and sword loose = potentially BIG problem! When the chain gets pinched it slows down and starts to push or pull against the wood instead of cutting it.
This makes the chain ride out of/into the wood, bringing the sword with it. Now, here is the one place inertia comes into play - good luck in stopping that saw when it comes flying out of that log!
Seriuos looks and a cool voice does not make for an expert I'm afraid…...
Are you for real?
Millenials should watch this
dont be fooled
The first 1 minute and 36 seconds was long, boring, and IMO not needed. If you wanted to demonstrate the dangers of kickback you could have done that in just 10 seconds. There was no need to drag people trough the slow motion scene. We came to see what it is and what to do, so obviously we know it is dangerous and wish to avoid it. If we are using a chainsaw, or a drill, we know how the mechanics of each tool.
With all that said, I did find the kickback information very useful and I did enjoy the level of detail provided. Drop the dramatic unneeded crap, make a simple 4 minute video, and this piece would be perfect.
queond
great now I am terrified and I didn't get the information on how to prevent kickback!!! lol where's the other video....ah here we go the whole video is posted in the description....why even post this one at all?!ruclips.net/video/HBEUYs6I6vU/видео.html
Nice vid, bad intro.....