Inkydandy (DC Comics) Batfam - Episode 2

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  • Опубликовано: 29 дек 2024

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  • @alejandrazepeda1612
    @alejandrazepeda1612 7 лет назад +4072

    Alfred: Master Bruce playing pretend. *sniffle
    *So pure.*

  • @dodobunnie4207
    @dodobunnie4207 5 лет назад +1462

    "Are you a big spoon or a little spoon, Damian?"
    *"I'm a knife"*
    Best answer ever

  • @justfantastic5131
    @justfantastic5131 4 года назад +510

    I love how Jason says " I don't sound like that" rather than " I never said that".

    • @ValerieBeatty-zo8ku
      @ValerieBeatty-zo8ku 7 дней назад

      Just wait until they figure that out later. He’ll never hear the end of it 😂

  • @shannonrichardson5129
    @shannonrichardson5129 3 года назад +2771

    I want a TV series about the Batfamily where they still fight crime and everything, but there are also scenes like this where they all act like stupid siblings.

    • @MissteriouslyRecorded
      @MissteriouslyRecorded  3 года назад +273

      S A M E

    • @spiteberi2686
      @spiteberi2686 3 года назад +133

      It could be like a sitcom lol

    • @WannabeWryter
      @WannabeWryter 3 года назад +116

      I'm working on it, it writes its self really. Batman disappears the 4 Robins with Alfred and Oracle step up and watch the city as a team/dysfunctional family. Cue "The City is Ours by Big Tume Rush" theme.

    • @ines1084
      @ines1084 3 года назад +27

      @@WannabeWryter I wanted to read this till I read the oracle part (cause I'm not familiar with girls) but then you mentioned Big Time Rush and now certain I want it. Give me link plz

    • @charliefarmer4365
      @charliefarmer4365 3 года назад +8

      @@WannabeWryter what site is it on?

  • @plaguedvenice
    @plaguedvenice 7 лет назад +4136

    “Are you a big spoon or a little spoon, Damien?”
    “ *I’m a knife* “
    I am cRying

  • @DavidGraham221
    @DavidGraham221 6 лет назад +3541

    I never thought I'd live long enough to see Bruce in a Robin costume

    • @what3325
      @what3325 6 лет назад +51

      Izuku Midoriya neither did I

    • @Liz-ps1qe
      @Liz-ps1qe 6 лет назад +41

      Izuku Midoriya ikr my life is complete

    • @Liz-ps1qe
      @Liz-ps1qe 6 лет назад +24

      Izuku Midoriya I just realized what your username is and I LOVE IT

    • @speedstick8954
      @speedstick8954 6 лет назад +19

      It is FROPPIN hilarious lol

    • @pericatt
      @pericatt 5 лет назад +8

      TODODEKU FOR LIFE

  • @mizukihimejibroken2799
    @mizukihimejibroken2799 7 лет назад +2090

    Damian:I am a knife
    Me:...a big knife or a little knife?

  • @kcidike4397
    @kcidike4397 3 года назад +396

    2:20 I just love how Alfred cries a bit when Bruce is the one playing, which means he catching up on the childhood he lost

  • @啊不必要
    @啊不必要 7 лет назад +496

    "But, batman I just want to be loved"......... pfffffft hahahahahahahahahha ha 😂😂

  • @petrakryze9622
    @petrakryze9622 6 лет назад +259

    "Drake, you need to eat more."
    Proof that Alfred has finally gotten to him.

  • @Cosmickayellie
    @Cosmickayellie 7 лет назад +611

    I can't breathe!! 😂😂
    "How do you make it stick up?"
    "Put your helmet on"
    *puts on*
    "Now take it off"
    *takes off*
    There, see.

    • @witchbiss4038
      @witchbiss4038 4 года назад +14

      Hair Gel: i have been rejected

    • @evelynnart37
      @evelynnart37 4 года назад +10

      That is the best case of helmet hair EVER

  • @jameslauren3100
    @jameslauren3100 4 года назад +205

    I love these comics. Bunch of orphans with an orphan dad who loves them but is brooding. Varying children who express love to him in their own ways. Playing together despite coming from different dark pasts.

    • @33pandagamer
      @33pandagamer 10 месяцев назад +2

      I really like stories like this. It's nice to see charaters who've gone through so meny hardships and heartbreaks finally being able to have fun and receve love and care from someone(s).

  • @thealphatwins7253
    @thealphatwins7253 6 лет назад +569

    I love the part at 1:22 when he says "But, Batman I just want to be loved!" That made me laugh my ass off

    • @MissteriouslyRecorded
      @MissteriouslyRecorded  6 лет назад +46

      I literally recorded it to sound kinda ridiculous for that very reason. XD

    • @desspuente
      @desspuente 2 года назад +10

      That make me laugh so hard anytime too and omg just like two days ago I was "explaining" Jason to a friend and I told her that, just like that and there was another reason to laugh even harder

    • @TurtleProphet73
      @TurtleProphet73 2 года назад +5

      I wheezed😂😂😂

  • @smileysatanson3404
    @smileysatanson3404 3 года назад +92

    "Master Bruce.. playing pretend"
    My gods i love Alfred

  • @hybridqueen6599
    @hybridqueen6599 7 лет назад +313

    "...so I'm like your Lazarus pit?" *I* *DIED* (I honestly love it)

  • @lun4blad3_12
    @lun4blad3_12 5 лет назад +89

    Jason wears a shirt saying: “daddy’s lil superhero”*....*an hour later every girl wants jason*

  • @thatone_skzsimp
    @thatone_skzsimp 7 лет назад +942

    Daman: I'm a knife
    Me: That makes sense

    • @zxshadowxz
      @zxshadowxz 6 лет назад +4

      Yeah, I mean, how else do you answer that question

    • @preposteroustoast
      @preposteroustoast 5 лет назад +6

      I'm a fork. A big one

  • @sleepynyxyt
    @sleepynyxyt 4 года назад +39

    When Dick said "I just want to be loved!", you sounded like Deadpool

  • @SkyDellinger
    @SkyDellinger 7 лет назад +2059

    I JUST WANT TO BE LOVED

    • @jasontodd2586
      @jasontodd2586 5 лет назад +30

      Sky's Horror Place u are loved now

    • @dcmarvelfan9604
      @dcmarvelfan9604 4 года назад +32

      I don't sound like that

    • @happymom40
      @happymom40 4 года назад +21

      @@jasontodd2586 Last time I got love was when my cat decided to not kill me

    • @lonesomewendigo
      @lonesomewendigo 4 года назад +9

      Well get in line

    • @SleepyGermlin
      @SleepyGermlin 4 года назад +6

      @@dcmarvelfan9604 Come back here

  • @river_rosy5477
    @river_rosy5477 6 лет назад +60

    "Are you a big spoon, or a little spoon?"
    " I'm a *knife* "
    DEAD

  • @kayotic_moon4066
    @kayotic_moon4066 7 лет назад +1448

    Friend: How many times have you watched this?
    Me: uhhhh, eleven-
    Friend: alright-
    Me: -teen
    Friend:...
    Friend: that’s not a number

  • @ebonydragionhart8769
    @ebonydragionhart8769 6 лет назад +17

    3:44
    HMM?!!! RED GREEN AND BLUE?!!! BLUE BEING IMMATURE, GREEN BEING SALTY, AND RED BEING CHILL?!!!! IT'S THE POWERPUFF GI- BOYS!!!!!!

  • @draconicgremlin7484
    @draconicgremlin7484 7 лет назад +386

    I cried at the last one, "I'm a Knife!" 😂😂😂

    • @cofeespear4992
      @cofeespear4992 7 лет назад +7

      Kenna K Draws well he is that boy does damage

    • @Astr0_Man
      @Astr0_Man 7 лет назад +4

      Kenna K Draws
      Haha yeh me too!!!

  • @dreyblanc7503
    @dreyblanc7503 6 лет назад +51

    Bruce playing pretend? I'm with you, Alfred 😭😭😭. He is like a dad to them. ^^

  • @frankspick7544
    @frankspick7544 7 лет назад +285

    i love the part were bruce dress up has robin its pure gold for me

  • @phoenixfirecat7234
    @phoenixfirecat7234 5 лет назад +60

    I was smiling through most of it but when Bruce showed up at 2:13 I died

  • @B1NG0B0NGO
    @B1NG0B0NGO 7 лет назад +404

    “I’m a knife.” Perfect.

    • @MissteriouslyRecorded
      @MissteriouslyRecorded  7 лет назад +13

      Basically, Damian Wayne in three words. XP

    • @thedarkphantom3880
      @thedarkphantom3880 6 лет назад

      MissteriouslyRecorded can you do a Danny Phantom 10 years later one where there's DM villains it'd be cool to see all the characters by the way like your videos they're pretty cool

    • @preposteroustoast
      @preposteroustoast 5 лет назад

      I'ma fork

  • @mimah1015
    @mimah1015 5 лет назад +44

    5:03 I love the way Damian says it all with a straight face.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @losersweepers.
    @losersweepers. 7 лет назад +465

    Alfred: Master Bruce....playing pretend :SNIFF:
    ME: ........:HIGH PITCHED GIRL SCREAM:
    Jason: So i'm like...your lazaours pit..?
    ME: ....AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
    Jason with dat perfect hair dou

    • @MissteriouslyRecorded
      @MissteriouslyRecorded  7 лет назад +7

      I literally love this comment so much. XD

    • @losersweepers.
      @losersweepers. 7 лет назад +6

      THANK U

    • @happymom40
      @happymom40 4 года назад +4

      Imagine Jason dr--k and he enters the bat cave And says
      " ALL HAIL THE NUGGET CAVE "

  • @ktsvinhluc
    @ktsvinhluc 5 лет назад +24

    4:03
    Bruce: uhhh....Jason what happened to you??
    Dick: It was Damian
    Damian: *punches his...something?*
    Tim: but why did you do that?
    Jason: Cause you tell scary stories and didn't invite me in!😤..!!!

  • @GoddessKitten_
    @GoddessKitten_ 7 лет назад +289

    Don't bring a gun to a knife fight *holding Damian in a knife fighting stance*

  • @BEEFlad
    @BEEFlad 6 лет назад +38

    "Man, that's strechy"
    "Stop it"
    I lost it😂😂

  • @d3wylbby272
    @d3wylbby272 7 лет назад +263

    RED HOOD VS. BATMAN LOOOOOL😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @oneace3734
    @oneace3734 6 лет назад +50

    "Adventure!!!!!" Why did that hit me so hard lol

  • @galaxyofrainbowz8676
    @galaxyofrainbowz8676 7 лет назад +121

    Jason, that's not our universe.

  • @heavenlyhellion916
    @heavenlyhellion916 6 лет назад +18

    I love the part where Richard, impersonating jason, said but Batman I just want to be loved!!! I died lol

  • @_poisoned_tea_1221
    @_poisoned_tea_1221 7 лет назад +97

    Damien: I'm a knife.
    me: Then, I'll be a fork.
    my other personality: no
    me: But-
    other personal.: Just no....

    • @Alwais_Elsweyr
      @Alwais_Elsweyr 5 лет назад +8

      Is it bad I did the same thing? But like:
      Damian: I am a Knife
      Me: Can I be the fork!?
      Other me: More like the bowl. . .

  • @tootsielavender7408
    @tootsielavender7408 6 лет назад +72

    Who else knew on impulse that it was Damian that punched Jason? I know i did.

    • @aliostrowski1935
      @aliostrowski1935 3 года назад +12

      Yeah definitely a Damien reflex something jumps him he kicks it

  • @jrr1532
    @jrr1532 7 лет назад +22

    0:52 okay but who else got reminded of that one episode in voltron?
    I'm screaming tysm for the heart!

  • @LetsNerdOut
    @LetsNerdOut 2 года назад +22

    Ok but can we take a moment to appreciate the nod Dick did to the Hush story line where Clayface was pretending to be Jason and told Batman he just wanted to be loved?

  • @ghouligan3045
    @ghouligan3045 7 лет назад +39

    "Are you big spoon little spoon?"
    "I'm a knife"
    😂😂😂

  • @soheeluva327
    @soheeluva327 4 года назад +10

    7:54
    “Are you a big spoon
    Or a little spoon Damian?”
    *”I am a kinfe”*
    Lol😂😂

  • @heavenlyhellion916
    @heavenlyhellion916 7 лет назад +88

    "I am a knife" that is so something dami would say

  • @yaoi5987
    @yaoi5987 5 лет назад +25

    "Drake you need to eat more."
    Aw
    Edit: it's also nice seeing Alfred happy.

  • @galaxyofrainbowz8676
    @galaxyofrainbowz8676 7 лет назад +44

    "Are you a big spoon or a little spoon?" " I am a knife."

  • @scroocherinmcmuffins6217
    @scroocherinmcmuffins6217 2 года назад +7

    6:09 (hehe)
    But the fact they didn’t see anything change (apart from the shoes) PROVES that Jasons abs are made of pure gold 😭

  • @Alyssa-t
    @Alyssa-t 7 лет назад +162

    Dick: Are you a big spoon or a little spoon
    Damian: I'm a knife
    Me: i think i'm a fork

    • @MissteriouslyRecorded
      @MissteriouslyRecorded  7 лет назад +9

      I am probably 50/50 on both answers. XD Like, I can be a big spoon or little spoon, but I'd like to think I'm a knife.

    • @muppet_of_a_man
      @muppet_of_a_man 7 лет назад +5

      Alyssa Toy I believe I'm a spork. Still trying to decide between that and a spatula. 🤷‍♀️

    • @littlesadeo
      @littlesadeo 7 лет назад +6

      I’m a potato. 😂😂😂

    • @leoflores8174
      @leoflores8174 7 лет назад +4

      I’m a sweet potato

    • @zayraespinoza3383
      @zayraespinoza3383 6 лет назад +3

      Alyssa Toy I'm a strawberry

  • @cadencejames4064
    @cadencejames4064 4 года назад +15

    THE SMILE JASON MAKES WHEN HE GOES TO SCARE THEM LMAOOO

  • @Xaervai
    @Xaervai 7 лет назад +115

    *I AM A KNIFE*

  • @tall_and_angry
    @tall_and_angry 6 лет назад +11

    4:07 Jason is me whenever my sister isn't paying attention. Or anyone really.
    I like scaring people. It's fun

  • @yasminlewis861
    @yasminlewis861 7 лет назад +82

    I loved when they were playing pertend

  • @Storm_Bird456
    @Storm_Bird456 3 года назад +17

    I’ve have watch this video only god knows how many times and I just realised that Alfred is taking pictures at 2:18

  • @redpearlprincess4259
    @redpearlprincess4259 7 лет назад +22

    OH MY GOD!!! I freaking died at Bruce joining the game!!! It was too much!!

  • @blecosplay7306
    @blecosplay7306 6 лет назад +11

    I heard daddy issues in the background at 2:47 and I lost it 😂

  • @dovethefemalerobin1023
    @dovethefemalerobin1023 7 лет назад +25

    "Five. Years."
    Me: * looks down at leggings. * "NOPE. I'm out." * Runs out of bat cave *

  • @peppermint-ali
    @peppermint-ali 6 лет назад +6

    damien: im a _knife._ jason, out of frame: hes a little spoon

  • @pasta8275
    @pasta8275 7 лет назад +35

    Bruce be rockin that robin outfit

  • @mcmaam1759
    @mcmaam1759 5 лет назад +15

    0:24 that “The Matrix” reference tho

  • @simpette_2.0
    @simpette_2.0 7 лет назад +9

    3:39 BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! OMG HE LOOKS LIKE A TITAN IM CRYING LEGIT TEARS 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @draconicgremlin7484
    @draconicgremlin7484 6 лет назад +19

    I almost pissed my pants when I saw Bruce in the Robin Costume..

  • @margertjones4628
    @margertjones4628 7 лет назад +17

    They way you said Batman had me cracking

  • @prisma1993
    @prisma1993 3 года назад +7

    I love all of these comics so much! Thanks so much for voicing all of these and adding in the sound effects! They all bring these comics to life!

  • @Astr0_Man
    @Astr0_Man 7 лет назад +8

    "Are you a big spoon or a little spoon, Damien?" "I'm a knife" phfffffffthahahahahahahahahahahahaa oh that a good one!!

  • @leovaldiva9853
    @leovaldiva9853 6 лет назад +8

    Love it how Dick just makes fun of Jason while they are playing

  • @madelinepierce8656
    @madelinepierce8656 7 лет назад +38

    Omg I love it! This was so perfect! Oh and I can just see how unique of brothers these boys would be.

    • @MissteriouslyRecorded
      @MissteriouslyRecorded  7 лет назад +2

      Thank you! :) And I agree! Definitely part of the reason I love voicing these boys!

  • @eleangnome2959
    @eleangnome2959 4 года назад +9

    TIMMY KNOWS ALL!!!
    1. he memorized the matrix pill speach
    2. He knows how jason gets his hair done

  • @amyshut7008
    @amyshut7008 7 лет назад +26

    I get pretty crazy when he start telling pablo nerudas' poetry, he is from my country, Chile. And i could read perfectly the spanish. So thank you.

    • @MissteriouslyRecorded
      @MissteriouslyRecorded  7 лет назад

      I sadly didn't draw this (the lovely Inkydandy on Tumblr did) and they picked the poem. All I did was voice it. I'm glad you enjoyed it though!

    • @amyshut7008
      @amyshut7008 7 лет назад +1

      MissteriouslyRecorded well. You're voice is amazingly beatiful, also, thanks for uploating the comic, that makes me happy enough.
      (If i make mistakes, it's because my english it's in practice, still learning, ya'know chile is not fully interested in learning it)

    • @MissteriouslyRecorded
      @MissteriouslyRecorded  7 лет назад

      Oh my goodness, thank you. >////<
      (Your english is absolutely fine! It's even better than people I know and it's their first language. XD )

    • @amyshut7008
      @amyshut7008 7 лет назад +1

      MissteriouslyRecorded that was savage from start to end XD

  • @purplerose5424
    @purplerose5424 4 года назад +8

    I love when “this is Halloween” started playing in the costume party comic thing

  • @sunflower8361
    @sunflower8361 6 лет назад +121

    ITS TOO MUCH FLUFF
    ITS SOO FLUFFY IM GONA DIE

  • @overtiredcuh
    @overtiredcuh 5 лет назад +8

    7:31 This has to be one of the most funniest thing ever 🤣

  • @ats6880
    @ats6880 7 лет назад +14

    "I'm a knife"
    😂 I'm gonna say that when another guy tries to flirt with me.

  • @kraziiXIII
    @kraziiXIII 4 года назад +2

    I was cackling at Jason being tossed back and forth by Bizarro.

  • @justmikithings
    @justmikithings 7 лет назад +36

    WAS THAT A VOLTRON REFERENCE I HEARD?

  • @secretsecret7268
    @secretsecret7268 4 года назад +7

    1:53 dangit I love it if someone were to say that to me no matter how corny it sounds I’d love it this video has made me love Jason more *sigh* whyyyyyyyy does it have to be the psychopathic killer that’s technically a zombie that I have to love now

  • @kawaiicatgirllove4138
    @kawaiicatgirllove4138 7 лет назад +26

    I love the last one! Lol I thought it was cute.

    • @MissteriouslyRecorded
      @MissteriouslyRecorded  7 лет назад +1

      Thank you! :3

    • @kawaiicatgirllove4138
      @kawaiicatgirllove4138 7 лет назад +1

      MissteriouslyRecorded are you going to make more video about this?😕😕

    • @MissteriouslyRecorded
      @MissteriouslyRecorded  7 лет назад

      I have plans too! It'll be awhile before I do another Inkydandy (not because I want to, I would love to do another episode as soon as possible, but I have to wait for more art to be drawn), HOWEVER, I'm moving on to various artists and will put them all in one video, or a few videos!

  • @questworldiangreenknight7455
    @questworldiangreenknight7455 3 года назад +6

    The playing pretend segments had me laughing so hard 😂😂😂

  • @okomelonsan1678
    @okomelonsan1678 7 лет назад +10

    2:54 OMFG ITS BIG BAND!!K-POP IS MY LIFE! Not a fangirl. Just a fan. I blow you away. Omg 😶

  • @neoinkling8128
    @neoinkling8128 3 года назад +3

    Jadon: my birthdays 8/16
    Everyone with the same bday (like yours truly):YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @3_raccoons_in_a_business_suit
    @3_raccoons_in_a_business_suit 7 лет назад +15

    YEEEEEEES. I LOVE THESE WITH ALL OF MY HEART. And yes, bloopers will be amazing.

  • @TheAkumuKing
    @TheAkumuKing Год назад +2

    “Batman this one seems insane. I suggest we put him him Arkham.”
    THEY DID NOT!

  • @ogey2145
    @ogey2145 7 лет назад +12

    Is is just me or did Tim look so cute on the birthday one

  • @redhood7524
    @redhood7524 6 лет назад +10

    2:08 is the theme to the animated TV series, “The Batman”.

  • @skylergrimi9748
    @skylergrimi9748 6 лет назад +8

    I love this so much! I have watched this 20 times in 3 days and I still love every second of it.

  • @annapplegoldfinch6931
    @annapplegoldfinch6931 4 года назад +3

    I have been searching for that segment with the scary stories!!!! It's soooo funny!!!
    Also, that part where Alfred runs in after Jason's prank scares the boys reminds me of a Powerpuff Girl episode where Buttercup makes Bubbles scream with a scary story and a prank, and the professor runs in and the girls scream even louder, thinking he's a monster.

  • @goldenkingyo
    @goldenkingyo 3 года назад +3

    Damian: I’m a knife.
    Ah yes, the sharpest spoon in the drawer and my favorite ♥️

  • @mervec.5997
    @mervec.5997 5 лет назад +1

    7:38 woow just wooow 😂😂😂
    Happy robin, moody robin=> no pants
    Smart robin, demon robin => pants
    😂😂😂😂

  • @phantomgrim210
    @phantomgrim210 7 лет назад +18

    Weird friend: are you a big spoon or a little spoon? How I want to be: I'm a knife! How I am: big spoon!

  • @Adro_07
    @Adro_07 4 года назад +2

    “Are you a big spoon or a little spoon, Damian?”
    “I am a knife.”
    I’m dying 😂 😂 😂

  • @Is4mb
    @Is4mb 4 года назад +3

    Jason doing a sexy pose
    Me: *NOSE BLEEDING INTENSIFIES*

  • @bambina_bren
    @bambina_bren 3 года назад +3

    I didn’t know I needed this in my life, but now it’s never leaving

  • @achilles3428
    @achilles3428 7 лет назад +7

    "I'm a knife" XD I LOVE THAT!!!!!

  • @pengui3394
    @pengui3394 6 лет назад +2

    “I hit the wall and cried BAM! BAM! BAM!”
    I’m sorry Jason reminds me of JD from Heathers.

  • @thegamerlucario3006
    @thegamerlucario3006 4 года назад +4

    Damien with a bucket on his head in the first comic is so darned funny to me xD

  • @pala199er
    @pala199er 6 лет назад +2

    "Ahahaha i've gotta bazooka"
    That's me right there
    The absoulute weirdest chip in the bag

  • @mayallyourbaconburn7133
    @mayallyourbaconburn7133 4 года назад +9

    God I love Jason being a big brother.

  • @GODJESUSAMONGUS
    @GODJESUSAMONGUS 6 лет назад +4

    'But batman I just wanna be loved!'
    *To pure*

  • @duskthecat9898
    @duskthecat9898 6 лет назад +4

    "BUT BATMAN I JUST WANT TO BE LOVED"
    I A M C R Y I N G 😂😂😂😂

  • @saffrona_kate2183
    @saffrona_kate2183 4 года назад +1

    You know what? Its one thing for Bruce to dress like Robin, but he went and dressed in the pants less robin suit.🤣 That's dedication to role.

  • @gesai4677
    @gesai4677 7 лет назад +16

    I clicked on this because I thought red hood was Shiro from Voltron and now I can't stop laughing

  • @crimjulie8957
    @crimjulie8957 7 лет назад +69

    I was TRYING not to laugh. . .failing
    . . . btw i'm a fork B)

    • @MissteriouslyRecorded
      @MissteriouslyRecorded  7 лет назад

      Hahaha, okay, this comment definitely did not fail to make me laugh. XD
      And I'm probably 50/50, I could be a big spoon or a little spoon; but I'd like to think I'm a knife.

    • @crimjulie8957
      @crimjulie8957 7 лет назад +1

      I like to make people laugh =3
      It's my hobby ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
      And knives are cooool!

    • @preposteroustoast
      @preposteroustoast 5 лет назад

      I'ma fork as well