A few years ago, I worked in a wood mill that make kit furniture from pine. They has huge belt sanding machines that fouled quickly. They had a cleaner made just for the purpose of cleaning these belts. I read the MSDS sheet, and it was mainly TSP (Tri Sodium Phosphate). I bought some TSP from local big box store and used it on my portable belt sander belts and worked great. I tried to buy some TSP today, and it seems it may have been banned in California. All I could find is Phosphate free TSP.
I worked with some old reclaimed heart pine and clogged an endless number of belts. Put Simple Green mixed in water in a large mouth gallon jug and soaked them in it, usually over night. Rinsed them off and cleaned them tough spots with a nylon or brass brush. No caustic chemicals. Worked great.
I stopped using the Monster. It was too harsh on the skin. Barry Irby is correct on the Simple Green. It just takes a little longer to work. I found Purple Power works faster than Simple Green and is less caustic than the Monster cleaner. Monster seems to be hard to find and maybe no longer available. I haven't seen it lately.
Nice video and I agree the rubber sole of training shoes or those sticks do not clean the gunk off the belt. I used normal paint thinner and it had the same effect as the chemicals you used. Left them soaking for a while then used a wire brush to loosen the gunk more then back into the thinner cleaned and left to dry the thinner will evaporate off and they are ready to use again. Thanks for giving the idea to use chemicals to clean the belts!
thanks, I used the chemicals so I could use water to rinse the belts. Also I had that Monster and didn't know what else to do with it. I tried it on some other things and it really worked, but it was hard on the hands. Really hard, like ate holes in my hands. Since then I tried the Purple cleaner (used to be called That Purple Stuff) and it worked too. Thanks for viewing the video. Lloyd
Hi - thanks for making the video. I'm not in the US and I couldn't find the product after a web search to find something similar. There are a number of cleaners out there so just knowing the contents (or warning labels) would help. You comment about it's affect on your hands makes me think it might have a caustic base but any info from the label would be appreciated. Cheers
I just use Simple Green. 16 oz. of Simple Green to 16 oz. of water. Place the rolled up belt in a quart container (preferably plastic) and add enough of the mixture to cover the belt. When the resin build-up is as bad as the one demonstrated, I let it sit about 2 days. Normally it only takes about 2 to 3 hrs. After the elapsed time I remove it from the soln., unravel the belt and check for stubborn spots. I brush these off with a stiff bristle brush and then rinse it thoroughly in a bucket of water and hang it on the clothesline to dry. It's usually dry in about an hour and ready to go. I use nitrile gloves from Harbor Freight when using this process. It's better than using a cleaner that will eat up your hands.
Thanks for your comment. I've found that a product called Purple Power also works. The Simple Green and Purple Power work slower, but the trade off is the fact that they are less caustic. But always wear gloves! Several people have commented that the Monster Cleaner is hard to find. I have tried and can't find it either. The one gallon I had is gone and I am now using the Green and Purple products.
The only problem is if you use a wire brush it might dull the garnets on paper. just can't imagine paper having good cutting action after all that. But will give it a try. I only have a 4x24 belt sander, but same problem s. Thanks
Mr. Lloyd, I looked for this product at Home Depot and Lowes but couldn't find it. Would you please share more information about this product, like the manufacturing company, part #, and perhaps there is a shorter name on the label for this product? Forgive me for so many questions. Thank you for your help.
I can't find it anymore either. Purple power and simple green seem to work, but you have to soak them longer. The Monster Cleaner was way to caustic on skin so I quit using it anyway. Maybe that's why it no longer seems to exist.
use scrap piece of plexiglass while belt sander is in operation. pitch and debris embeds in melting plexiglass as it sloughs off. no chemicals, back to new, and in service instantly.
For those of you that can’t find “Monster” Cleaner, I can’t find it any more either. The way it burned my hands I’m not surprised. Try Purple Power or Simple Green.
@@Edgunsuk That is insane! Find a scuba diving shop to find out where they buy it (you might have to call Brighton to find one) because it's well used in the scuba industry to clean wet suits since it's non-abrasive and safe.
A few years ago, I worked in a wood mill that make kit furniture from pine. They has huge belt sanding machines that fouled quickly. They had a cleaner made just for the purpose of cleaning these belts. I read the MSDS sheet, and it was mainly TSP (Tri Sodium Phosphate). I bought some TSP from local big box store and used it on my portable belt sander belts and worked great. I tried to buy some TSP today, and it seems it may have been banned in California. All I could find is Phosphate free TSP.
I worked with some old reclaimed heart pine and clogged an endless number of belts. Put Simple Green mixed in water in a large mouth gallon jug and soaked them in it, usually over night. Rinsed them off and cleaned them tough spots with a nylon or brass brush. No caustic chemicals. Worked great.
I stopped using the Monster. It was too harsh on the skin. Barry Irby is correct on the Simple Green. It just takes a little longer to work. I found Purple Power works faster than Simple Green and is less caustic than the Monster cleaner. Monster seems to be hard to find and maybe no longer available. I haven't seen it lately.
Nice video and I agree the rubber sole of training shoes or those sticks do not clean the gunk off the belt. I used normal paint thinner and it had the same effect as the chemicals you used. Left them soaking for a while then used a wire brush to loosen the gunk more then back into the thinner cleaned and left to dry the thinner will evaporate off and they are ready to use again. Thanks for giving the idea to use chemicals to clean the belts!
thanks, I used the chemicals so I could use water to rinse the belts. Also I had that Monster and didn't know what else to do with it. I tried it on some other things and it really worked, but it was hard on the hands. Really hard, like ate holes in my hands. Since then I tried the Purple cleaner (used to be called That Purple Stuff) and it worked too. Thanks for viewing the video. Lloyd
Was wondering if paint thinner would work just the same...thanks for proving and posting comment 👍
Hi - thanks for making the video. I'm not in the US and I couldn't find the product after a web search to find something similar. There are a number of cleaners out there so just knowing the contents (or warning labels) would help. You comment about it's affect on your hands makes me think it might have a caustic base but any info from the label would be appreciated. Cheers
Not sure if you can get this in the US but here in the UK Cillt Bang then pressure washer worked for me,
Thanks Lloyd for tip saved me £££
Thank you for watching and you kind comments.
hi -not living in u.s.a- the cleaner
what kind of chemicals inside?
thanxxxxxxxxxx.
Great discovery and thank you for sharing it!!
I just use Simple Green. 16 oz. of Simple Green to 16 oz. of water. Place the rolled up belt in a quart container (preferably plastic) and add enough of the mixture to cover the belt. When the resin build-up is as bad as the one demonstrated, I let it sit about 2 days. Normally it only takes about 2 to 3 hrs. After the elapsed time I remove it from the soln., unravel the belt and check for stubborn spots. I brush these off with a stiff bristle brush and then rinse it thoroughly in a bucket of water and hang it on the clothesline to dry. It's usually dry in about an hour and ready to go. I use nitrile gloves from Harbor Freight when using this process. It's better than using a cleaner that will eat up your hands.
Thanks for your comment. I've found that a product called Purple Power also works. The Simple Green and Purple Power work slower, but the trade off is the fact that they are less caustic. But always wear gloves! Several people have commented that the Monster Cleaner is hard to find. I have tried and can't find it either. The one gallon I had is gone and I am now using the Green and Purple products.
The only problem is if you use a wire brush it might dull the garnets on paper. just can't imagine paper having good cutting action after all that. But will give it a try. I only have a 4x24 belt sander, but same problem s. Thanks
I tried 1 tbsp. of the powder with 1/2 gal. of water and it is not working. Is that not enough? Why is it not working? Thanks
I not find Monster shop anywhere on the web. Will oven cleaner or lye work
Purple Power will work also
Just a guess, but I think lye would be too caustic (but I'm no expert on lye).
Mr. Lloyd, I looked for this product at Home Depot and Lowes but couldn't find it.
Would you please share more information about this product, like the manufacturing company, part #, and perhaps there is a shorter name on the label for this product? Forgive me for so many questions. Thank you for your help.
Paul Castro I've got pictures of the labels I'm going to post.
So my teenagers had to tell my I can't post a picture on RUclips. Here's what the label reads: Monster Garage Brands, Monster Shop Cleaner.
Hello Lioyd. Do You know any E-Shop where i can find this cleaner? Best regards. Evgeny.
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What about wd40 I'm sure it will work.
I’ll try WD40 and see what happens. One concern I have is the residue left behind. It might get transferred to the wood.
Google this cleaner and it doesn't seem to exist??????
I can't find it anymore either. Purple power and simple green seem to work, but you have to soak them longer. The Monster Cleaner was way to caustic on skin so I quit using it anyway. Maybe that's why it no longer seems to exist.
use scrap piece of plexiglass while belt sander is in operation. pitch and debris embeds in melting plexiglass as it sloughs off. no chemicals, back to new, and in service instantly.
thanks for sharing this info
PBS #007 I tried That Purple Stuff and it worked also.
get to the point m8 you waffle too much
Not much winter in Atlanta. But I’d pick my days according to weather.
I’m not sure what powder you are referring to. The cleaner I used is a liquid.
For those of you that can’t find “Monster” Cleaner, I can’t find it any more either. The way it burned my hands I’m not surprised. Try Purple Power or Simple Green.
simple green is £150 a gallon in the uk
@@Edgunsuk That is insane! Find a scuba diving shop to find out where they buy it (you might have to call Brighton to find one) because it's well used in the scuba industry to clean wet suits since it's non-abrasive and safe.