Felger: Patriots will NEVER add or pay a number one receiver | Bedard and Holley debate on BST
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- Опубликовано: 3 апр 2024
- Mike Felger shares his hot take for the week: the Patriots will never trade for or pay a legitimate number one wide receiver and have only done so accidentally over the last 40 years. Then, Greg Bedard joins Felger and Michael Holley to debate that take and discuss what New England will do at the position going forward.
Felger is absolutely RIGHT! I hate to say it because his hot takes suck, but he is right. Jonathan and the old man will never pay a WR top of the market contract. They wouldn’t pay the best QB in the history of the league a top of the market contract
The Patriots were 100% targeting a #1 receiver when they traded for Randy Moss. Brady knew he wasn't actually washed and was pounding the table for him. Just because they didn't pay over market price for a player doesn't mean they didn't value him more internally. If you think the Bills were ever going to trade their Pro Bowl caliber #1 receiver to a divisional rival, I don't understand how you have a platform to speak about football. The Patriots weren't in on Diggs because they would've been required to pay well above asking to account for the interdivisional trade "tax". You're right that the Patriots will never make a Tyreek Hill trade, because it makes no sense to do that until the roster is better. Blowing up your draft capital for a stud player is only a good move if you're trying to compete right now, and don't care as much about the future. If the Patriots even tried to operate like that, every single person in the building should be fired
But that's his whole point. They traded for Moss because he was cheap. And to be fair, he was a #1 receiver, but that was almost 20 years ago and he wasn't here long.
Felger's point is accurate and true. They haven't drafted and developed a #1 receiver since Terry Glenn. And that was before belichick even got here. They have drafted several receivers high in the draft but NONE of them have come even remotely close to working out.
How can you possibly argue against that? That's just a fact. And again, moss was only here for like 3 years.
Not convinced. He was a risk for a few reasons. Bad attitude and lazy work ethic. Eventually both reared their ugly heads.
This has to be one of the worst takes I keep hearing “ we don’t have good players so don’t even try to improve the team”…ok so just be 3-14 for the next 2 decades then or??….. at some point you have to start putting ACTUAL talent on the field if you want to win games.. I don’t think any reasonable person was expecting them to trade a bunch of picks or give someone an absurd contract, but can at least try to maybe attack one position of need?? We literally have taken the most mediocre option at every position in FA from the coaching staff on down and you just had a HISTORICALLY bad offense🤦♂️
@@trillynelson. When your team has the 5th highest ticket prices and is near last in spending you get 3-14... Krafts are cheap. They got away with it when Brady was here. He's gone and so is their greatness.
Felgers takes are getting tired - Wide Receivers are nice but not essential
I agree. They need to get one. Seriously Brady and Belechick are not here to cover up anymore 😊
Thank you for crushing Felger. Loved it Bedard.
Did Greg just say Greg Jennings in 2010 wasn’t a #1 receiver? Jordy Nelson was a #1 receiver for like 4-5 years in Green Bay.
5:56 someone tell me Greg is wrong about this take on Felger
Malcolm Mitchell. Awesome talent taken 1st laid low by bad knees. He was instrumental in playoff run and Superbowl 51.
They tried and failed with NKele Harry and Antonio Brown.
And Josh Gordon
and they chased ridley
Actually Josh Gordon was that. He was on the way to be Bradys most effective receiver all time, if you go by numbers. He just stepped infront of himself unfortunatly@@emmanuelcalderon1982
Is it just me or has Felger had particularly bad takes this draft season? "Pats will never get a #1 receiver." "Don't draft a QB at #3 because historically QBs taken there haven't worked out." I'd love to see him as a GM of a team, just because I think the dumpster fire he'd create would be so amusing to watch. No player would ever be evaluated on skill or developmental potential. Hed base his draft board 100% on what history says is the best position to take at each draft spot.
Easily the worst person to watch that covers the Patriots. He don't know ball
@@ADub187he’s been mostly correct for a while, he was the first person to tell you don’t look at the cap space, look at your cheap owners budget and you’ll realize the patriots will never spend. And now look
@@johnsolly5838 I'm talking about straight up football knowledge. Managing, owning, Budget sure
Yeah that's basically his schtick, absurd hot takes. He's the Skip Bayless of NE media.
He’s not wrong…
"Randy Moss has entered the chat"
We had one of the GOAT tight ends ever in Gronk (luxury other teams did not have), we also had balance with the likes of Edelman and Welker with pass catching backs like White. The Pats always had role balance and role players, with the GOAT throwing to them and Mega Mind coaching the chaos.
How many championships did we win with Randy Moss and Terry Glenn Felgie? Have the Chiefs had any problem winning without Hill? Please.
Brandin Cooks: Am I a joke to you?
being a joke would be a compliment. i think ppl forget he even played here
40 years Felger? you werent around for Stanley Morgan
I think Mikes takes are always fair. As Pats fans the truth can hurt.
Interesting take by Holly: If better WR talent does flood the market starting this year, I think their value could depreciate. Simple supply and demand; there'd be too much supply through the draft.
“Eastewn prwopane dats in yo neighbohood” 😂😂😂
#1 they just offered Calvin Ridley a boat load of money. #2 Diggs is no longer the player you think he is (and he would never play for NE anyways). #3 the Patriots have never had a receiver worth paying because Tom always made things work. #4 the Patriots have never drafted a stud receiver, N'Keal Harry and Aaron Dobson are probably the highest drafted guys I can recall and both busted bad. Absolute insanity for them to have drafted Harry over DK Metcalf. Pairing DK with Gronk would have been impossible to stop.
Randy Moss and Gronk who I would consider a #1 pass catcher. But with a QB like Brady, a #1 guy isn't really necessary. But they may need to do that with the new QB
Bedard and every other Gm are insane, so you’d rather gamble with a 10% chance of landing an all pro QB instead of taking the 80% chance on a all pro WR
What does an All pro talented receiving prospect look like in an offense without a solid QB? Look at Kyle Pitts if you want to know. QB is 90% of the equation when you don't have a viable option there.
@@andrewstowe4313Pitts in 3yrs has avg 50/700 😂 JJ did just fine with cousins as a mid tier QB. AR-15 and Alshon Jeffery had Cutler n bortoles 😂 point being ...good receivers still get theirs on bad teams with avg to below avg QBs. Will it translate to winning? Doubtful bc the roster stinks but I'd rather hit on a wr than settle for who they think is the 3rd best QB in the draft
@@okadachef4287 what value did calvin johnson add to the lions on the few years before stafford, and the years stafford was out injured? an all-pro receiver can only do so much for an offense and for the overall team. taking a talented qb that you intend on modling and supporting is a smarter plan than building an all-star team.
*Omg Felger never stfu…constantly complaining. How many Super Bowls did the Patriots win without a “True #1 receiver”?🤦🏼♂️*
Tom Brady
@@johnsolly5838 thank you
Yeah and who was the quarterback on those teams? Brady could’ve thrown the ball to me every week and won 5 SB’s…. he’s gone.
Has anyone ever been able to finish their point with Felger in the room?
Crazy. T.O, Moss, Calvin Johnson, Julio Jones, all WR1's. Will there be a day for us, your right, I doubt it. Need a failing old one. Everybody hates Roster building...
They tried to get Ridley but he didn’t want to be there! And I’m a Patriots fan but I don’t blame him! They have to get better and find them a QB before anyone will want to come! It doesn’t help New England with the taxes and all that. Just got to get better and its not gonna happen over night and not even 1 season. Gonna take time!
bro forgot antonio brown 🤣
That wasn't going after a true #1. AB was already on the Raiders, had such a meltdown during camp they cut him and the Pats got him for nothing because of Brady. Pats had no intention of getting him or any other #1 WR, he fell in their lap for free, so they didn't pay him market value either, so no sir
The packer way lol. Greg blowing the wolf family is so annoying
I know I'm sick of his bullsh*t he never even liked how the patriots offense was constructed, and now we're forced to listen to a couple cheeseheads rebrand us. Who let the in here anyway? I heard bedard was kicked out of greenbay
@@randomflagg7331 Yesssss, "kicked out." So genius, why don't YOU tell us "the way?" C'mon--tell us what the Pats should do. Greg's describing what they do. He's never endorsed it, he's merely described what it likely will be. Maybe, dig better into the meanings of, y'know, WORDS.
Calvin Ridley’s girlfriend is a better GM than Eliot wolf 😭
They can add one through the draft now. New people making picks!
Dave "Mr Angry" Felger. Obviously @tomecurran & @PhilAPerry missed the NBC Boston 'angry Presenter' course at their inductions.
I can't believe Felger thinks the Patriots will be drafting 12 next year. That means 8 wins.
Because you don't need a no.1 reciever to win SB's flog, i remember ppl looked at the last few years and found it is not necessary
Maybe when Brady is your QB. You absolutely need better talent at receiver.
Not sure that will be the case moving forward, definitely the truth under Bill. Packers drafted receivers and had weapons.
And the Pats one 6 superbowls without having a number 1, a true # is not needed to win
The pats will not trade down. If they were trading down then why were they sending their entire staff to Quarterback pro days.
Does this clown even like the pats? Never heard him say anything positive about them, not once. Biggest hater they have😂😂
Felger is a Packers fan, so it makes sense
They won 4 games. What is there to be positive about?
@@patrickfoley6215 he’s been talking down on this team for years. Not just this year where they lost many players to injury, terrible qb play and many games lost by 1 score. His job is to state facts but he only lays out his opinion and sounds like a child everytime. He’d find something to bitch about if they won the superbowl next year.
Why is a number one receiver so important when a number one corner can neutralize him? All positions are important .
A top level receiver draws more coverage making all of your other receivers better.
Fegler gonna Fegler.
IF they ever do, count on Feglin' Felger to be there on DAY ONE, saying it's a stupid decision or that RKK "only did it to get into the HOF."
God, Dear God, please, please PLEASE move the draft up a week, so Mike The Generator Felger can talk about something else.
yeah, draft and develop like... Garoppolo. Remember that Kraft. What happened to drafting from the picks you got from the Brady trade? oh yeah that's right, Kraft got in the way and told bill to trade garoppolo instead.... and then brady left the year later
LMFAO
If Pats actually had a number 1 WR...be equivalent to the rest of the teams in the NFL number 3s/4s. Get ready 2-15 coming...3-14 in 2025....its back to the early 90s.
True, theyre too cheap. not sure why tee higgins or aiyuk arent in foxboro yet
Felger 6x super bowl 🏈 championship rings. F the wide receiver.
We’re always scraping the bottom of the barrel and bargain shopping
If player’s girlfriends are going to influence where they play, then not only is the NFL in deep trouble, so is mankind.
Gronk and James White, Edelman all top receivers
I don't listen to guys in suits whom have no experience in making actual decisions
But you will submit a comment on RUclips of two guys in suits talking who don't make decisions. These guys are an extension of fans.
Julian Edelman,Jakobi meyers,Deon branch no number one wide receivers
Oh boy these guys at this time of the year are just unbearable
Listen bro they won 3 games last season if thay cant get players its because bill destroyed the image and roster and he did it on purpose because he knew he was going to get fired now stop trying to blame the knew head coach
Wel just ignore they tried to get a true #1 WR but screwed it up by drafting Harry over AJ Brown… bill couldn’t hit on “top 10” WRs… he tried but still. New era. Let’s see negative Nancy
Take harrison and boom #1
So Mike, CLEARLY the offer to Ridley was phony, right? Classic Felger, playing an angle just to make a point. This is Mike "I only speak facts" Felger. Let the world suddenly pay sports talk guys to ONLY deal in facts and not wild conjecture, and you wouldn't recognize a single thing this guy says. Count on THAT.
Edelman wasn’t a #1??
I think they're talking boundary WR1, the X. If not they're all faded
Edelman was undrafted.
Wes Welker, James White, Brandon Cooks,
NO. He was an undrafted Quarterback from kent state that never made even close to #1 money
The Krafts are known for two things: ending antisemitism and being cheap
Felger is a pimp
Eldelman, AB or Deon Branch are not a number 1 wide outs???? Just get a real QB please
Felger gets paid to stir the drink and gets paid Bank for it. His takes suck- don’t draft a QB but they need one. Says he’s scared to death to draft one, blah blah blah
Well Pats fans just like the current POTUS it appears our team has walked out into the wilderness for a while and isnt coming back soon. Its been a great run America...lol ( cough) I mean Patriots.
Felger is such a baby, always crying and complaining about everything. Truly dont get how he still gets air time
Please FIRE Felger.
If you don't like it, don't listen
Ouch, a giant youtube channel calling for up and coming Felger's job. Bully!
@@Daniel_Capital Run snow flake run!
Wish the draft was over. These takes are dumb.
when felger speaks l hit MUTE...TRUMP/FEGER MAZZ/RUDY
Felger is useless