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I hear ya. I don't script my videos for the most part and people do get left out like M26 Lemon Grenade. I can't believe you left him out of your comment 😉
There are some serious issues that come with Binary triggers that aren't discussed in videos advocating this concept. #1 is obviously hammer follow. Very easy to induce malfunctions with these triggers. The trick is to focus on consistent rate of fire rather than rapid fire rate per se. Second issue isn't with binary triggers per se but really just the concept in general. That is...very, very few people have enough ammo to sustain this type of rifle and train with it. Especially in a group setting. Especially because you really need to be well drilled with that binary trigger to run this setup effectively and its like the one type of trigger where you won't really encounter those issues in dry fire practice. I think the vast majority of people will just be better off building and running a normal carbine rather than sinking a ton of money into this setup. Its fun but lets be real nobody is advocating this type of build for fun even though it is. I'm not saying anything more than that.
@@armorers_wrenchThe Fostec has a kinda sear built in that prevents hammer follow boss. Now that Franklin trigger……..and your right about the ammo. If didnt reload I couldn’t train.
The Fostech Echo trigger doesn't have the best semi auto trigger, but it has a very consistent binary trigger. I have had mine for several years. Once I put an H3 buffer in the gun all trigger related malfunctions disappeared. I haven't had a hammer follow malfunction with that trigger since I put the H3 buffer in, with the exception of tuning my Suppressor. You can outrun the trigger but it doesn't allow the hammer to fall. You just get what feels like a dead trigger. Usually you feel it when you release the trigger and nothing happens, but you just have to pull the trigger again. I only wish they weren't so bloody expensive, and hard to put in. They are very complicated, and unnecessarily so in my opinion. My basically exploded when I was trying to put it in the first time. Parts went sailing all over the room. Note: the semi automatic trigger is not "bad" in my opinion. It's not excessively heavy or anything, it's just kinda mushy.
klien machining been doing these concept uppers for over 2 years now red right hand, m26 lemon grenade and many others. you guys kinda late to that party
try a different strength recoil spring to solve the hammer follow issue, I have the same trigger with a carbine buffer tube and I tuned it with different buffers & springs to cycle perfect
I wonder if an IAR style build could benefit from a 12 o'clock style bipod like a Fortmeier on the front end of the top of the quad rail. I think could be akward having the weight above the bore, but I think if somebody were to set up their IAR build, I think it would look impressive!
It would be and added bonus for stability and I could definitely seeing it on fixed/bug-in kind of scenarios. But, the added weight might decrease maneuverability for patrol ops. Ultimately, set up your rifle the way that suits your need.
Think about how you plan to manage on uneven terrain. Sides of hills. Off debris. Off a car hood. Stuff that makes sense in a long range sporting situation don't make as much sense in highly dynamic environments.
@@woodsghost9088 Yep, it would be very clunky and more oriented to an emplacement. I think a good qd system would be necessary so it could be stowed until it would be beneficial
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Damn not even gonna give Klein Machining and Brett0331 the credit they deserved they were the first to champion the binary AR RPK concept
I hear ya. I don't script my videos for the most part and people do get left out like M26 Lemon Grenade. I can't believe you left him out of your comment 😉
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There are some serious issues that come with Binary triggers that aren't discussed in videos advocating this concept. #1 is obviously hammer follow. Very easy to induce malfunctions with these triggers. The trick is to focus on consistent rate of fire rather than rapid fire rate per se.
Second issue isn't with binary triggers per se but really just the concept in general. That is...very, very few people have enough ammo to sustain this type of rifle and train with it. Especially in a group setting. Especially because you really need to be well drilled with that binary trigger to run this setup effectively and its like the one type of trigger where you won't really encounter those issues in dry fire practice.
I think the vast majority of people will just be better off building and running a normal carbine rather than sinking a ton of money into this setup. Its fun but lets be real nobody is advocating this type of build for fun even though it is. I'm not saying anything more than that.
@@armorers_wrenchThe Fostec has a kinda sear built in that prevents hammer follow boss. Now that Franklin trigger……..and your right about the ammo. If didnt reload I couldn’t train.
@@armorers_wrench it's almost like I addressed both of those issues 🤔
I have almost the same rifle. PSA 20", Magpul bipod, magnified red dot, quad rail and binary trigger.
Great rifle concept.
Thanks for watching
Same the only thing different I did was put on a BCM mk2 buffer system so I could have an adjustable stock
Yeup. That rifle is the dope show.
I need to figure out an A2 set up
I have almost the same rifle, same troy quad rail, aero 20inch upper on a psa a4 lower, with a kac broom handle and streamlight hlx
Right on...thanks for watching
I've got a binary build that I'm working on getting running
Nice!!! I’ll be looking for it
@@FitnFire gotta get it running right.... seams to stop every 10 to 11 rds
@@AlaskanBallisticsis it a Franklin armory or fostech? Hear fostech had less stoppages but pricier.
Focus Tripp also did a video on IAR. Also his latest podcast with Hop and Brassfacts talked about the concept as well.
Repurposing a system is tight. 😂🤣
Seriously, though... Cool. Love to see it!
🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻…thanks boss!
The Fostech Echo trigger doesn't have the best semi auto trigger, but it has a very consistent binary trigger. I have had mine for several years. Once I put an H3 buffer in the gun all trigger related malfunctions disappeared. I haven't had a hammer follow malfunction with that trigger since I put the H3 buffer in, with the exception of tuning my Suppressor. You can outrun the trigger but it doesn't allow the hammer to fall. You just get what feels like a dead trigger. Usually you feel it when you release the trigger and nothing happens, but you just have to pull the trigger again. I only wish they weren't so bloody expensive, and hard to put in. They are very complicated, and unnecessarily so in my opinion. My basically exploded when I was trying to put it in the first time. Parts went sailing all over the room. Note: the semi automatic trigger is not "bad" in my opinion. It's not excessively heavy or anything, it's just kinda mushy.
Nice Rifle
Thanks boss! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Nice set up. A little bit of tuning with the springs, buffer maybe might help the hammer follow problem
Thanks for the recommendation! I'm definitely going to look into that
Repeal the NFA!
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Fostech has an extra long hammer. Seems impossible to overrun the bolt.
Good intel…thanks!
Great info....
Thanks for sharing 👍...
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klien machining been doing these concept uppers for over 2 years now red right hand, m26 lemon grenade and many others. you guys kinda late to that party
Cool
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All because of you 🤩
try a different strength recoil spring to solve the hammer follow issue, I have the same trigger with a carbine buffer tube and I tuned it with different buffers & springs to cycle perfect
Cool…thanks for the intel
👉👌 😂 that shit had me rolling
Thanks for watching
I wonder if an IAR style build could benefit from a 12 o'clock style bipod like a Fortmeier on the front end of the top of the quad rail. I think could be akward having the weight above the bore, but I think if somebody were to set up their IAR build, I think it would look impressive!
It would be and added bonus for stability and I could definitely seeing it on fixed/bug-in kind of scenarios. But, the added weight might decrease maneuverability for patrol ops. Ultimately, set up your rifle the way that suits your need.
Think about how you plan to manage on uneven terrain.
Sides of hills.
Off debris.
Off a car hood.
Stuff that makes sense in a long range sporting situation don't make as much sense in highly dynamic environments.
@@woodsghost9088 Yep, it would be very clunky and more oriented to an emplacement. I think a good qd system would be necessary so it could be stowed until it would be beneficial
@@Leo_Sneedinsky I can see your argument.
I would be really excited about a proper tripod in that situation.
I like how he didn't edit out his ND. Shows the necessity of proper training with a binary trigger.
Agreed
Is this element in the room with us?
You should look into brent0331
Yep…seen his stuff in the past. Need to revisit